is meme cinematography the next big thing?
Apparently you've never seen the works of Stanley Kubrick
>Hasn't even come out yet
No, surprise bear sex is.
>>63624895
It already is, cinematographers are starting to get more popular than directors.
Yes.
>>63624895
Why are you so cynical?
>>63625322
>>63625322
how is the cinematography on this meme? i get the birdman meme but if anything boyhood would be a memescript (even tho i love it, i'm just saying what would make more sense for you /tv/ trolls to say)
>>63625507
>even tho i love it
Just wanted to tell you I'm closing my browser and going to bed.
What makes cinematography "meme cinematography"? Because it's good?
>>63625596
When someone "tries too hard" it's meme cinematography.
It's a shit way to think
>>63624895
Seeing this thread made me throw up
>>63625596
It being a focal point of interest rather than what makes other movies interesting?
It's a shitposter, don't think about it too much.
>>63624895
[Inarticulate yelling]
>>63625596
it insists upon itself
>>63624895
>is meme cinematography the next big thing?
no, absolute meme kinography is tbqh
Without interesting & dynamic cinematography, I instantly & viscerally hate a movie.
That's why ALL contemporary comedy & horror sucks balls. It's 100% narrative driven, thus instantly forgettable & just a waste of time.
Good cinematography, whether sweeping & grand - subtle & understated - is the most important element to crafting a cinematic legacy.
Principals, score, narrative, set/costumes are all individually important, but the camera-work is what ties it all together. It is quite literally DIMENSION.
>>63624895
What does that mean?
meme cinematography
>>63627301
Posted in the wrong thread, eh?
>>63627301
Does she have a penis?Please tell me she has a penis.
>>63627424
He has a feminine penis
>>63627290
The camera's too involved in the action and trying way too hard to be "artistic".
>>63627468
Does he have a name?
>>63627411
Pls what was it?
>>63625596
when it's an overt gimmick that says "look at me!!" That's roughly what "meme [thing]" means. And Innarriittuu is pretty interested in overtly drawing attention to certain elements of his movies.
>>63627525
>movies should be bland
Eh?
>>63627472
>camera's too involved in the action
>camera's trying way too hard to be "artistic"
pick one. If they're focusing on the action then they are not trying to be artistic
>>63627500
What was what?
>>63624895
Cinematography as a driving factor in a movie is not new.
Look at Kurosawa and Ford.
Movies are a visual medium, Anon.
>/mu/'s knowledge of cinema only extends to DiCaprio movies
Come on, I know you can shitpost harder
>>63625507
Confirming I'm also doing >>63625570.
This is too much.
>>63627500
it was a faggot spamming star wars spoilers with a picture of some girl / transsexual laying on a bed in a bra
>>63627500
Acutetranny
>>63627624
>>63627634
Fuck I need to see it...
When I think of meme cinematography, Wes Anderson comes to mind immediately.
>>63627559
Inarritu likes to do the long takes like he did with Birdman and now this because he thinks it's "artistic". Except he's doing it for the wrong reasons and there's no subtlety and understanding behind it.
>>63627671
Too late faggot, it's gone now
Maybe you should start some kind of third party archiving website that automatically saves everything from this board
this short(ish) film Alan Clarke did for the BBC in the80s utilizes mostly tracking shots. It works for the subject matter, which was just showing the type of randomly targeted shootings that were going on in Northern Ireland at the time, completely devoid of context. Gus Van Sant's 'Elephant' took a lot of inspiration from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwy7YQ41lHQ
>>63627677
>flashy and complex long takes aren't artistic
>>63627677
>He made a movie that uses long takes
>That means every movie he makes is going to be nothing but long takes
>>63627671
Nothing you wouldn't see from a good /b/ trap thread.
>>63627290
literally videogame cinematography
>>63625507
>even tho i love it
>>63627290
>that masterful way of showing the confusion and chaos the characters are feeling
>meme
This is truly the memest of the boards
>>63624895
>meme cinematography
>>63627976
>that masterful way Leo just yells in a terrible accent
>that masterful way Leo will forgo yet another Oscar
>>63627976
Go back to /v/, that scene looks like it's from a video game, not a flick
>>63627739
Ophuls knows what he's doing. Inarritu is doing Hollywood trash under the guise of artistic cinematography.
>>63627767
Obviously this isn't going to be like Birdman and covering up the cuts but he's still going to be doing them.
>>63624895
That is a fairly decent looking shot. I don't even know what movie it is from.
If i didn't care about cinematography, i would just read books.
Are you really this buttdeteriorated because based Inarritu called you either tasteless plebes or pedantic pieces of shit in Birdman?
>>63628017
>Ophuls knows what he's doing.
Ophuls was even more ostentatious in his camera movements than Lubezki, using cranes and dollies in every shotand he did it while making a movie about c͏uckoldry.Plus his American movies were the definition of Hollywood trash for their time (fucking film noir in the 40s, how original). It's obvious you've never seen a single Ophuls movie so why pretend like you have?
>>63628010
I guarantee you that Hardy will get Best Actor for this specifically because he co-starred with Leo.
>>63624895
>>63628017
Why do you hate Inarritu so much? Is it simply because Birdman won best picture? Or because he's Mexican?
>>63627859
This, it will be interesting to see if it's noticeable enough to break the suspension of disbelief but obviously stands out badly on its own when taken out of context from the movie
>>63628101
>for their time
Trash then is better than trash now man. Don't even say they're of the same level of trash.
And yes I have kek.
Lubezki and Inarritu just feels like he's trying too hard to imitate the greats.
>>63628121
Because he's a filthy beaner.Like myself.
>>63628063
If you like books then you should know The Revenant.
>>63628146
>And yes I have kek.
I'm pretty sure you haven't otherwise your only argument wouldn't be "trash! it's trash, trash, trash!"
>>63628013
>that scene looks like it's from a video game, not a flick
Solid argument brah you must be the king of r/truekino
>>63628146
>Like myself.
Reported.
>>63626379
Shame good comments like this get buried behind the meme talks and self hating beaners.
>>63626379
This is why PTA is one of thebestdirectors alive. His latests film barely had a narrative but the cinematography was hipnotic. His exposition through camera placement is almost Welles tier.
>>63624965
Look at this contarian faggot
>>63627859
>>63628013
Before Uncharted 2 in 2009, nobody would have ever said that about any live-action/practical-effects movie. They aren't even really using CGI except for in the bear attack and a couple other stunts.
It isn't cinema's fault that video games are catching up in visuals and popularity to the point where people are reminded of shit like assassins creed 3 when they see >>63627290
Since everything is virtual in a game, you can see far more crazy shit happening in one than you would ever expect to see in any movie. Thus, having your action scenes described as "looking like a video game" is a fucking compliment for a live action film, at least in the visuals department.
>>63628710
I'm going to take a big shit soon and I hope that somehow because of a quantum quirk a rip in spacetime opens in my toilet bowl connecting it to a point inside your mouth d so that when I drop my pants and unload my hot steamy logs into my porcelain throne, they get redirected through the wormhole suddenly and directly onto your tongue
>>63628820
jej
>>63628820
This is hot.
>>63627976
>that masterful way of showing the confusion and chaos the characters are feeling
Care to elaborate on that? I bet you can't
>>63626379
This guy gets it.
>>63626379
Quality post.
>>63625570
>>63627620
>>63627939
so does this board not like Boyhood, one of the greatest American films of the decade? okay.
>>63626379
honestly, i hold script and cinematography equal. but i still get what you mean, i think cinematography is still an underrated (somehow) aspect of judging a movie
>>63626379
Who is this film school graduate and how can I make him governor of my pussy?
>>63628453
Inherent Vice was nothing but DUDE EXTREME FACE CLOSEUPS LMAO with nothing interesting.
There's only one contemporary director that knows how to handle tracking shots, and that is Paul Thomas Anderson.
Say all you want about him but he learned very well from the masters.
>>63629708
HOLY PLEBE BATMAN
how much control does the director have on cinematography?
>>63626379
You know it's funny, at the end of Birdman everyone on my aisle stood up and started talking about the impact of the characters or the story, or the ending or music. All I could think of was how much I liked the scene transitions.
>>63629837
Total, executives/investors don't know shit about cinematography so they don't try to manipulate it. Their demands are usually more about plot or actors.
>>63627290
Transformers 2 had better shots.
>>63624895
more like flicktography
>>63625596
>muh single shot
>muh long take
it's meme shit
>>63630584
Your brain has been sterilized by the internet. Welcome to the future.
>>63630119
I remember reading something a while back about certain things being actively discouraged by producers, but that was more of a general thing like before shooting starts the director was told not to use to many low angle wides or whatever.
>>63625596
I thought it was movies about memes.
>something that takes a lot of skill is a meme
I hate this board
post meme cinematographers
>>63630958
I disagree, so that means you need to go back to Reddit.
mfw I realize the quest for movie realism will drive scientific innovation in the future until we are actually shooting a Mars movie on Mars.
>>63626379
It's funny that this is posted in a board that has come to hate Birdman for this same reason.
>>63627677
>a seasoned director working with very talented and recognized DPs knows less about what he's doing than some faggot on 4chan
Top fucking kek
From my point of view, Inarritu's trashy flicks are part of the cultural genocide.
>>63626379
back to Reddit, retard, we don't want your kind here
>>63631482
extremely aesthetically pleasing
>>63628453
Lol no. He does alright sometimes, but he's an Ant compared to Welles. There's much more thought and creativity put in to Welles' visual storytelling. Although, PTA's visual work is better, more delicate and more integrated into his films than Inurittu
>>63631334
You fucking idiots can never make a real argument. When someone criticizes the pseudo artistic middlebrow crap you plebs eat up, you appeal to authority, appeal to popularity, and use red herrings.
It makes perfect sense though. You don't know or actually care about film, so you're not prepared to deal with actual arguments, and this is also why you revere pseudo artists in the first place. , because your film analysis skills are little more refined than a 13 year old's
>>63631482
no, this is comfy
>>63631482
it's a beautiful fun movie fuck off
its called Digital Color Correction
It slathers Orange & Teal all over the frame like thick dollop of vaseline
>>63625703
how do the try too hard?
Literally everything is a meme now. This thread is a meme. This post is a meme.
>>63625718
movies that make a point of their photography have been around since the beginning you pleb
not every director wants their film to look like an tv show
Can you explain what "meme cinematography" is?
>>63627290
>shitposting overuse of the word 'meme' beyond any possible comprehensible meaning
>>63624895
I think that the cinematography under the natural light was big deal in 70s because of mechanics of camera & the sensitivity of an actual film itself. After several decades, we all own the thanks to the advance of technology that the shooting under the natural light has become fairly avoidable task. As you have known, we have digital equipment as well as a film itself gets better than ever. But using a film still comes with a lot of hard work !!!
>>63631733
Lol wow this guy is mad!
>>63631963
Just pointing out the total failure of people on this board to ever meaningfully defend middlebrow shit. And it seems apparent that the inability to argue critically about film correlates highly with liking mediocre work such as Inarritu, McQeen et al
>>63626379
>ALL contemporary comedy & horror sucks balls.
It follows had fantastic non-meme cinematography that did a really good job of backing up the plot.
I kind of see what OP is saying though, if the cinematographer goes way off the reservation and does things just because they are cool, there is a problem. I don't think that is the case with any of the usual examples here though.
>>63632031
Korinefag, how's tricks? Ever stopped toconsider that a raving histrionic like yourself isn't worth defending from?
>>63624895
are meme's on /tv/ the next big thing?
>>63630584
>I hate everything
I am so glad that I am not you.
Is this really the way you guys talk on this board? It's like the ultimate form of pretentiousness holy shit.
>>63628530
actually meme cinematography is a reasonable description of Kubrick's approach.
>muh natural light
>muh symmetry/perspective
>muh staring at camera with head tilted forward
the difference is that Kubrick's scripts were great and actually delivered so the above didn't just seem empty style.
>>63632301
Go back to reddit
If the mods gave even the slightest shit about the subject of this board, they'd nuke this thread outright.
>meme cinematography
for fuck's sake
>>63624895
Meme cinematography is a thing. But this isn't it.
If you look at someone like Deakins' entire filmography, that's a pretty clear cut example. You have a big budget DP for hire who will make your film look "good" without any need for the director to have clue what look he's going for. Roger sorts out everything for them and the film will get its oscar nomination. But there's no connect between the film and the presentation.
You get all these masterful, well-composited shots that have no context.
>Long shot at dawn as the silhouettes of the men are lit only by the rising sun
^ It looks cool, but it's not a necessary part of the film at all and adds nothing to the narrative or even the tone that's trying to be set
The revenant however, none of this applies. It's shot in a very specific way to evoke specific moods. I haven't seen it yet, so maybe I'm jumping the gun. But I'm basing this on birdman which perfectly made it seem like you were watching a play in film form
>>63632327
Gladly. Keep thinking that you're somehow superior because ur a kool kid who goes on 4chan but only you care. Good way to prove my point though thanks
>>63632390
Go back to reddit
>>63632181
You're just proving my point, as every other pleb in the thread is.
>>63632413
Gladly. Keep thinking that you're somehow superior because ur a kool kid who goes on 4chan but only you care. Good way to prove my point though thanks
>>63632415
>Korine
>good
>>63627290
For the most part that looks fantastic. The only problem is the unnecessary pans that aren't showing anything interesting and then immediately cut away from the actual subject.
>>63632373
Bullshit, Lubezki is the meme DP of the century. Nigga is just pulling off one gimmick after another.
>>63632319
Kubrick picked the right style for each movie he was making. As do almost every director mentioned in this thread.
>>63632461
Fantastic argument, I'm sure everyone is thoroughly convinced.
>>63625596
meme on 4chan now means 'something I don't like this week'
>>63632428
Go back to reddit
meme cinematography is really the next logical step, unfortunately
for almost 2 decades now story and themes have been increasingly sacrificed for style and visuals, so it would make sense if next reddit tier pretentious but still pandering cinematography that has little/no relation/context to the material, or, alternatively, it becomes the focus/emphasis of the oh so clever director/cinematographer
either way it'll just become more hacky, especially as the gimmicks become more "artistic"
>>63632439
Well, this is a trailer. These are not full scenes.
>>63632373
So what you're implying is that the only meaningful shots are dis positioned to be reused ideas from other directors and a director is unable to make a meaning for themselves from the use of a particular shot? Yes there's guidelines but nobody is bound to them outside of beliefs. I don't disagree that directors use these kinds of shots in order to make a movie seem more meaningful than it really is.
>>63628710
>having your action scenes described as "looking like a video game" is a fucking compliment for a live action film
lel no, all three hobbit turds are exhibit one here
>>63632490
Everyone here saw your fuck up by the way and how you tried to delete it. Honestly just pathetic if I'm gonna be honest. I guess it's an honest mistake though to be honest.
>>63631452
Please kill yourself immediately
>>63632591
No? Are you talking about directors or DPs?
Either way, cinematography should be a coalition between the director and the DP to present the story in the best way
Pointless shots that only look nice and don't add anything in context are examples of meme cinematography. Deakins is basically just a DP for hire who makes your over-funded film look oscar-worthy
>>63632628
I don't know I kind of like the guy. At least he says exactly what his on his mind instead of being corrupt and full of lies. It's the mask we're meant to wear around here.
>>63632623
>2bh
šmh 2bh
>>63632667
Yeah I was talking specifically about DP's. Like I said I don't disagree, but my point is more often than not it is taken with some thought on what the output will be instead of hoping that nobody will notice that they didn't have a comprehension on what the purpose of the shot is. Could you give me an example though? I haven't seen any of his movies in a while but I remember enjoying a majority of them.
![9b2c01a5284643dd877d558088740640007cf1c030abcb24dfb5abbce549132a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/c20vel1.jpg "9b2c01a5284643dd877d558088740640007cf1c030abcb24dfb5abbce549132a[1].jpg")
>>63626079
>>63626079
>>63632795
I use "It insists upon itself" on a regular basis. It's a great and sexy concept.
>>63632863
But what does it mean?
>>63625596
It's something people talk about to the point that it becomes memetic? In this case everyone talks about the cinematography in regards to The Revenant. That's my guess, I dunno
>>63632888
That it insists upon itself.
Will there ever be a more meme scene than this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTxh6DHhyzM
>>63632888
thinks it better than it is, takes it too seriously, overrated,
>>63632997
what a fucking frog
>>63633046
nothing wrong with being sexually attracted to frogs anon
>>63627472
you spelt "autistic" wrong
>>63625570
Nice blog post
What the fuck do you guys think "meme" means?
>>63632997
That is terrible directing, camera work or whatever.
People arguing and doing it at that angle with only one shot close up on the "actors" face. It looks fucking terrible.
>>63634022
if you need to ask go back to reddit
>>63634022
Everything was memes and everything butthurt.
>>63631862
You can tell they're trying too hard because others start giving them recognition for their work. And if they'd previously been given an academy award it means that all their work from then on is automatically try-hard Oscar-bait shit.
>>63632600
Hobbit movies do not count because they turn into 99% CGI during any "video-gamey" scenes. It's only an accomplishment if there is no CGI trickery
>>63634405
>not everything was meme and nothing dank'd
Go back to reddit if you don't want to be outmemed like this
>>63634022
DUDE MEME LMAO
What is an example of good cinematography?
>>63624895
Do you know what "meme" means?
>>63625703
>>63626079
>>63627525
>>63630584
These are meaningless statements.
As a film student (shut your fucking mouth) I really do love Emmanuel Lubeski's work. I'm a sucker for tracking shots and long shots. Dunno why you'd think it's a 'meme' but it takes incredible talent to pull off.
Not everything is a meme, 4chan.
>>63636073
IT'S A MEME DUDE
>>63626379
>muh cinematography meme
People have been telling stories since the dawn of time, there have always been amazing stories and shitty ones but ultimately what it comes down to is good writing and good characterization.
Give me something shot terribly but well written over something beautifully shot but full of garbage.
Wouldn't you feel more comfortable looking at the pretty pictures in a museum instead of at films (which are a fucking storytelling medium).
>inb4 pictures tell a story
Go back to /co/
>>63634022
Idea.
The idea that cinematography should try to be "artsy" is a meme.
>>63636435
>As a film student
M E M E . C I N E M A T O G R A P H Y
