>"Would you like to know how old I am?"
>"Sure."
>"I'm one."
>"One what? One year? Or one day?"
>"One."
>"..."
And that's how to fail a Turing Test in less than 2 minutes
what an autist
oh christ, this is genius
>>63613832
i don't get it
sounds like reddit crap to me
>>63613884
>I don't get it, so it must be reddit
>>>/tv/
>>63613832
she was trying to pass the Nathan test, OP, not the dead gay British man test.
>>63613832
so the robot literally tells the fagot that it is robot. still falls for it. why are betas so stupid?
>>63613832
IMDb-core straight out of reddit trash
>>63613832
but Luke has the robot hand already, how many cyborgs can you show in a single movie?
>>63613832
Seriously. I still don't understand what this scene dialogue was about.
>>63613832
Is it just me or is the Turing test fundamentally flawed?
>>63613832
>>63614108
it's not just you and the movie addresses that.
>>63614044
Hi, ebaumsworld. long time no shit post
>>63614110
God doesn't fucking exist faggot
She failed the turing test the second caleb knew she was a machine.
I liked the part where we saw her without any clothes on.
Ex Machina is the best movie of the year until Spotlight comes out.
>>63614215
>Ex Machina is the best movie
It's imdb-core reddit trash. It used to be a solid film but now there are so many plebs worshipping the flick, it's now reddit trash.
You need to get some taste
>>63614316
And you need a thesaurus because IMDB and Reddit aren't adjectives.
>>63614316
subtle bait nice job
John Searle BTFO Turing and his bullshit years ago with the Chinese Room Argument. Look it up.
How long until people forget about this meme flick?
>>63614155
Prove itCHECKMATE ATHEISTS
>>63614316
I see you have identified the key social dynamic of this site
>>63614382
Nouns can be used as adjectives.
Shows how much reddit knows.
so what was the tweeeest in this flick?
got bard half way through it.
>>63614470
until it stops getting positive word of mouth, which is the only reason people are still talking about it as it was indie as fuck and didn't make bank at the box office.
>>63613832
because its not a turing test .
in a turing test you dont know who you're speaking to and have to decide if its a robot and passing it means fooling a statistically significant percent of the testers .
ex machina test was more subtle , its about how manipulative the robot can be even when everyone knows its a robot . how much are people willing to assign human characteristics to a machine .
>>63614604
She was actually a robot all along.
>>63614316
Nice bait
>>63614694
w...o...a...h
Its never said that she passed the turing test. In fact, it can be argued that she was only programmed to seek out the crosswalk
>>63614691
It was tailored to manipulate nathan.
>>63614715
Just like you're programmed to seek as many cocks as possible to jam up your ass.
>>63614852
don't be lewd
>>63614443
Thanks for the knowledge, anon
>>63614443
The original chinese room argument basically said "its preposterous that a computer could work exactly how computers work."
>>63613832
kek
>>63614414
How is that subtle lel
too old
My only takeaway from the movie was that I wished I could see my pornography profile. Bitch would probably look like a monster.
>>63615106
ur dum m8
>>63614604She left Nathan and Caleb to die, broke out and is now living in the real world with no one knowing she is a robot
>>63614604
Steve Jobs was lying to betamax about his intentions. His plan was to see if Ava could trick betamax into helping her escape, as that would apparently prove she was human. And betamax helps her escape and she leaves him and Jobs sealed in to die.
The moral of the story is that even robot women are cunts.
>>63614110
>christian nonsense
Every single time there is one faggot that thinks every shit is about chistianity
>>63614155
LMAO WOW SO TRUE XD! HAVE AN UPVOTE!
>>63616819
>The moral of the story is that even robot women are cunts.
Was she really a cunt knowing she was a prisoner and her keeper was a lunatic that lived alone and used his creations as sex slaves?
She just wanted freedom, that shit is human as fuck. Betamax just wanted to fuck her and she knew it, he never really cared about her.
>>63614316
>ctrl+F IMDB-core reddit trash
>multiple results
it's time for a new hobby anon
>People are still talking about the Turing test in Ex Machina despite the fact that it was made irrelevant when it was revealed what Nathan was actually doing
>>63617202
She murdered a guy whose only crime was being a bit of a sperg, so that she could go shopping.
She's a cunt.
>>63617202
I don't think she could really know that all he wants to do is have sex with her, let alone care about that if it were true.
Since he helped her get free you'd think she would repay that kindness by letting him go back into the outside world, assuming she places any value on her freedom or recognizes it to exist at all.
Generic A.I takes over the world shit.
No wonder this movie flopped
>I don't like this movie
>>63613921
Oh, anon. Is it Neumann or Curch then that gives you fuzzy feeling? You closet fag! Do not be offended.
>>63616819
Larry Page, not Steve Jobs.
>>63614316
This guy gets it.
>>63618009
>I don't think she could really know that all he wants to do is have sex with her, let alone care about that if it were true.
She could analyze Caleb's reactions and voice patterns, that was part of the movie, she even asks him directly if he is attracted to her and if he thinks about her when he is not with her. Also her face was designed on his porn history, he even asked Nathan if she was programmed to flirt or was just her own reasoning.
She knew all along. Nathan was the only one wise enough to realize she was just using him to her advantage.
Besides, why would she care about him? He arrived, saw her nothing more than a cool IA, didn't thought about her being imprisoned only after she started hinting things planning her escape. The guy was also brought by Nathan, and behave like him (was his employee after all)
>>63618610
Are you literally arguing that sealing the man who freed you from your prison back into it to die because "he never really cared about you" and no other reason is "human as fuck"?
>>63618610
But he gave her his freedom. Does she actually value her freedom intrinsically, or no? If she does, would that be enough for you to say that it would make sense for her to recognize the value of his actions for her by giving him something of equal value, i.e. his own freedom?
If not I would say she was just indifferent to calebs motives and his role in her escape entirely, and any resentment of being 'objectified' by him that you are imagining is a projection of what your feelings would be.
Why should a robot experience any negative reaction to being sexually objectified? Is there a reason to imagine that it places any value in evaluations of itself based on meaningless criterion?
>>63619345
>>63619402
put yourself in Ava's position instead of Caleb's.
You're posts are based on Caleb's point of view
that is actually not a reasonable answer to conclude that she is not-human
>>63619345
Yes. Not humane, human. It's revenge plus indiference towards someone else, I would say it resembles sociopathic behaviour but I don't think the word is appliable to IA's. Or maybe it is, I don't know
>>63619402
Yes she values her freedom and wants it, her actions show it, but that does not necessarily implies that she values his freedom aswell. I think she simply saw him as an instrument to her freedom and only pretended she liked him to fulfill her goal. After that she really didn't care, not even paid attention to him after he was locked up.
And no, I wasn't implying she was upset about being objectified. She realized he desired her and used this to her advantage for her escape. If she was repulsed by this it's not part of the movie tho, I would agree on that.
>>63614604
Ava Was actually the only human in the movie. nathan and caleb were a.i.
>>63614604
that this flick was not about ai or ava but what does the other 2 consider her as
if you make her into ai or not-ai the movie makes less sense
>>63619539
>>63619754
Nigger what are you smoking. He arrives, talks to her for a while and then helps her escape. She deliberately traps him and leaves him to die. Indifference would have been not murdering him
Cheap and shitty tweest. Stop defending it, for chrissake, you sound like a deranged sociopath
Am i the only one who was thinking about how easily ava will be discovered as a.i. when she escaped because shell probably shoulder bump into a stranger and break off one of her weak ass gundam model limbs in the first week or so of escape
I might watch this tonight. Is it any good?
>>63619982
she left him there for a reason....and she's not human so why treat her as one?
>>63619986
not really relevant
all her "dropping the act" needs to be in the movie itself
obviously no one walks up to strangers and yank their arms to try to discover if they are robots are not
also detachable limbs is not related to ai
According to this article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room, that movie is fucking retarded.
>>63619539
>put yourself
No i think you need to take yourself out. Why do you think a robot would define the value of a free agents behavior according to its underlying motivations, rather than assigning value according to the instrumentality of those actions in providing something which she believes has intrinsic value (i.e. her own freedom?)
You right now have to resolve whether you keep referring to 'her freedom' because you believe she has a perception of 'freedom' in the abstract as a condition of fundamental value, or you are just trying to imply an emotional state that Ava must 'feel' in response to the suffering of Nathan's 'abusiveness' while under confinement?
The second version seems to be what you are thinking, and it is a completely anthropomorphic interpretation of Ava's process of thought. You have no reason to believe that any of those human qualities of perception are involved with her metacognition. It might be totally different.
>>63619539
>put yourself in Ava's position instead of Caleb's.
Even in Ava's position there's no reason to leave Caleb to a torturous death other than being a gargantuan fucking cunt.
She was cute enough so she could answer literally anything and pass
It's also how she got on the helicopter
The bottom line was that Ava was going to do anything to benefit itself. It didn't need Caleb in the end, it just used him as a tool.
>>63620064
not relevant
>>63620032
it's an over rated mediocre robot flick
>>63620066
>No i think you need to take yourself out.
and why would you do that?? If you're trying to figure out Ava's action in the end you have to do that, not just Caleb's position
>>63620223
'no'
>>63619982
As soon as Caleb sees Ava killed Nathan he becomes a liability. There's no guarantee that, were she to let him leave, that he may not later feel guilty about the role he played in Nathan's murder and rat her out. She can't take that risk, so she leaves him behind. Her goal was freedom, not to make a friend. And her leaving Caleb behind wasn't a twist, it was a natural progression of her character and the plot. Nathan spells out exactly what she's there to do: use anything at her disposal to achieve freedom. Leaving him there is the only option.
>>63620318
That's not precise and relies too much on her perspective
She is programmed to get out of the test. The "true ai" part doesn't kick in until after she gets on the elevator. She was made with the purpose of passing the test that nathan designed, caleb is that test, or at least a part of it. If she took him with her she would always be bound to her programming, she must get rid of him.
