Jack played the joker so much better than Heat. Jack was batshit crazy, Heat was just an edgy teenager
Ok
>>63601557
I like the part where Heat licked his lips before he said anything. That made him look super edgy.
>>63601595
I like when Jack played himself in every role ever
Heat played the joker so much better than Jack. Heat was batshit crazy, Jack was just an edgy teenager
But "edgy teenager" is what the Joker is, basically. And Jack was phoning it in, 2bqh.
kool.
>>63601653
Just means he was born to play the part. Heat had to go full Looney Tunes and die before people gave a fuck about his performance.
>>63601595
He wasn't licking his lips, he was licking the scars on the inside of his cheeks.
unobservant/10
>>63601742
No, he wasn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlaEZWeNXsA
>>63601557
>>63601656
POETRY
>>63601557
>>63601557
Nice joke m8
>>63602131
Okay, I'll reword it.
He wasn't only licking his lips, he was also licking the scars on the inside of his cheeks.
>>63602260
Jack is absolutely, by far best Joker.
I wish this meme that Ledger was better dies.
>>63601557
Sorry but you're a memeing faggot.
>>63602280
If that were the case, his tongue wouldn't leave his mouth and make those smacking sounds.
>>63601656
>make up is fading, cracked, and chipped in both movies
How did they fuck up twice?
>>63602351
>Get a load of this faget
Anon, he was licking his lips as well, so yes, he would make those noises.
>>63602308
Its these damn millennials, destroying cinema
>>63601557
Heath played the joker so much better than Jack. Heath was batshit crazy, Jack was just an edgy old man
>>63602376
>Implying implications
>>63601557
What's worse:
1- Jack nicholson acting
2- Tim burton existing
>>63601557
They were both good desu senpai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNe8Am8BGk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeb5UmOrvmM
Jack was a sadistic troll that killed people in the name of his avant garde art, masturbated to dead war victims and got off on scarring disfiguring/mutilating beautiful women. Jack targeted people's vanity and wanted to make Gotham as ugly as he was physically/externally.
Heath was a philosophical anarchist that killed people in the name of chaos. Moral quandaries, putting people in situations that where they would betray their morals/ideals was his thing. Heath targeted people's morality and wanted to make Gotham as ugly as he was mentally/internally.
>>63602502
3. People who dislike Burton's Batmans
>>63602502
Heath Ledger's career
It looks more and more fake every time I look at it. Too much licking / lip smacking, he's overdoing it
>>63602511
>philosophical anarchist
>>63602511
>Both Joker's doing a televised broadcast
>Jack kills his victims by poisoning them causing a rictus gri
>Heath kills his victims by slicing their mouths
>Batman scene ends with Bruce and Alfred watching
>TDK scene begins with Bruce and Alfred watching
Pottery
>>63602511
First scene is the Joker.
Look at the effort he put into his production value for his video, listen to that jingle. I laugh at the thought that he's sitting in a studio with his hencmen filming him. The stuffed seaguls, the cardboard cut outs of the dead super models he poisoned. It's really well done. He's like the salesperson from hell. Look at the fear in that hostage's eyes that tied up with all the products around him. Joker captured him just to make a commercial.
Second one is modern, edgy crap. Ledger is a try hard. That's why people eat his shit up. Oh wow, the video cuts off at the end!!! He got spooky and killed a guy!!! His Joker was a faggot. People are obsessed with the performance because the actor died, just like Brandon Lee in the 90s.
>>63602524
Exactly.
It's not like he's been in anything recently. What a loser.
>>63602702
There were other scenes with Jack's Joker that didn't make it to film that would've made him look even better:
One scene was him holding a board meeting of sorts and the camera turns to the people he's talking to and they all have grins on their faces.
The other was Joker shooting down a helicopter with a rocket launcher.
Kind of wish those had been filmed.
>>63601557
Those are chumps
Nicholson was typecast like crazy.
I still wonder what would've happened if Robin Williams got cast in the Shining instead.
>>63602778
Yeah, then during the parade there was going to be a statue unveiling (for the founder of Gotham because of the 200th anniversary) and once the curtain came down it would be a Joker statue in it's place. Pic related. All that money that he gives to the people in the crowd was originally meant to have his face all over it. "My face on the one dollar bill".
Lots of that stuff had to get taken out due to the tight production schedule and budget. Crazy how much they accomplished in just a short shooting schedule over in London.
>>63602914
Forgot the pic. Would have been cool to see, I know some restaurants in Hollywood have a miniaturized/recast version of it in the lobbies. Pity it didn't make it on screen.
>>63602594
>Batman 89: Joker wants to poison Gotham with his laughing gas
>Batman Begins: Ra's wants to poison Gotham with Scarecrow's toxin
Nolan is a hack
>>63602819
>didn't bother shaving the mustache
>>63602308
>Le wrong generation
>>63602934
>didn't bother
He refused to because he was based
*SMACKS LIPS*
*FIDGETS NERVOUSLY*
*EDGY LINES*
*DIES*
aaand the oscar goes to
>>63602932
No shit
>>63602966not Leo
>>63601557
MOMS
>>63602973
>>63602973
>>63602989
>>63602973
>>63602989
>>63603016
>>63602973
>>63602989
>>63603016
fucking kill yourself
>>63602989
>>63603040
end your fucking life jesus christ
>>63603040
Yup. Shot for shot pretty much. Don't tell the Nolan babbys though, they'll spaz out.
>>63602376
No, it only is in TDK, but that's done intentionally.
Kinski played the joker so much better
>>63603038
>>63603059
>>63603040
why does the crow look and feel more like how batman should be then the actual batman one
Live action a shit
Everyone knows Mark Hamill is the one and only Joker.
mfw The Dark Knight was just a modern remake of Batman
>>63603097
god damn right i am fucking autists
>>63601557
Yeah, but Jack isn't a meme on here.
and Batman 89 was shot-for-panel like the source material, no matter what Tim 'I've never read a Batman comics in my life tehe' Burton tells you.
>>63603228
inb4
>b-b-but Batman doesn't kill
>J-joker didn't kill Batman's parents
>the batmobile doesn't have guns
>>63601557
>>63602190
>>63602511
>>63602594
I've got more poetry for you guys. Dunno if you can handle it.
>Jack is alive but his Joker died in the film
>Ledger died but his Joker lived in the film
Every stanza rhymes
>>63603432
I'm glad he's dead.
>>63602947
>le edgy faggot
>>63603156
Just admit that Nolan is a talentless hack you raging faggot
>>63601557
In addition to being the best Joker, he also has more oscars, more bitches and more money than Ledger.
>>63602511
>killed people in the name of his avant garde art
I always understood this to be his theme of the day for that scene (since he was raiding an art museum and trying to appeal to Vicki,) and not actually a factor in his motivation. Like, if Burton hadn't made Sam Hamm amp up the revenge bullshit and kill him off at the end, he may have had some other ridiculous theme in the sequel.
>>63601557
>Everyone hypes up heaths performance
>Go see it
>It's literally nothing
>Only a few scenes
>Not even interesting or worthy of being noted
Wow. It's like i'm actually in /v/ where everyone has shit taste.
Le contrarian face
Le overuse of the word edgy XDD
>>63604872
Yeah that's true, with the Joker who knows what the next thing would have been.
Still, I do think the art thing was one of his philosophies. He really did get off on death and viewed it as some sort of twisted art. Remember that collage he's putting together of all those war and mustard gas victims. He actually looks like he gets off on all of it. What's the only photo he likes in Vicki's portfolio? The corpses from a third world country.
If he had lived, might have been cool to have seen the Joker fish or something.
>>63604908
It wasn't bad. He was fun to watch. But so was Dafoe making an ass of himself n front of a mirror.
Ledger didn't handle the role poorly, but I really can't stand everyone acting like he was miles ahead of everyone else by prancing around and doing a cartoon voice, the same everyone else has and everyone else will.
>>63601557
I like both for different reasons. I know they have their hardcore fan bases, but I see them both equally.
If you could somehow merge both versions, I think it'd be the perfect Joker. Also, I'm not looking forward to Leto at all. Give me Nicholson or Ledger any day.
>>63601557
>>63605070
I think this dissing of Heat Legend's excellent performance is simply contrarianism. He wasn't trying to do the Joker everyone else had done. He was doing Nolan's Joker, and I think was absolutely fantastic. That scene where he videotapes fat Fake Batman and is repeating "look at me... look at me... LOOK AT ME". Made my hairs stand up.
>>63603228
This. I never believed that because it's pretty clear he read the comics (even if he didn't grow up reading them or whatever) and it feels pretty close to the source material, even with some modifications like the Joker identity
>>63601557
>comparing actor's performances
>forget the characters are written differently
Same thing with the Tugboat and Garfield debate. They didn't have the same characters/script to act from. I'm not saying it's impossible to compare, but you do have to factor that in.
>>63605090
>Also, I'm not looking forward to Leto at all.
Honestly, I still kind of am. Not crazy about the tattoos, but what we've seen of the trailers make him look like a joy-riding, homicidal maniac. I'm really hoping they run with that, just make him a complete scumbag out for a good time, and don't try to force the "agent of chaos" bullshit again.
As someone that's visiting from /g/, you guys really think Batman 1989 is better than The Dark Knight?
Fucking lol this bored really does have shitty contrarian taste. And that's coming from someone born in 79 and saw burtons movie as a kid.
>>63601557
I liked the scene where Nicholson talks to the dead body after cooking the guy, killing him. I liked the scene where Ledger is disguised as a nurse with the outfit and wig at the hospital.
Both of them did a great job playing their respective Joker roles.
>>63606095
Patrician opinion spotted
>>63601557
>jack
>wrecked art while listening to prince
>heath
>did not wreck art while listening to prince
I think we all know who the winner is.
>>63606068
I think the Dark Knight is slightly better than Batman 1989 personally. I like the story and Ledger a little more.
Still,
Ledger > Nicholson
Keaton > Bale
TDK script > '89 script
Danny Elfman > Hans Zimmer
'89 art direction > TDK art direction
Batmobile > Tumbler
TDK Gordon > '89 Gordon
If we're going for the look and style of the movies, I'd go with Burton. If we're going for story telling and themes, I'd go with Nolan. Both of them are the best of the 7 and the most re watchable.
>>63606151
>Patrician opinion
I don't even know what that is
neither one was very reliable to the source material but they both had a great laugh
nolan's shit philosophical writing made the second movie and especially third unbearable upon repeat viewings
>>63605171
The performance is good. That isn't the problem. The problem is that its overrated. People have been playing the hammy villain for years and pulling it off. Ledger is in with the best of them, but it didn't warrant an Oscar, nor did it stand on its own enough as some kind of peerless diamond of a performance.
>>63606242
Both are great but it's clear that TDK is ultimately the better movie and story. 89 has same elements that are better though no doubt.
>>63606068
Batman Returns is better than Batman 1989 and The Dark Knight combined.
>>63606266
It's the second one.
Nice dubs btw.
>>63606354
More like Batman Scissorhands: The Return of the Nightmare Before Christmas
>>63606363
Oh, t-thanks anon.
>>63606423
Best looking Batman film to date. Also has this fucking scene.
Bitch should have gotten an Oscar for that performance.
Heath Ledger was a bad actor.
The way he licked his lips and chewed at the insides of his mouth wasn't acting, it was him being overly conscious of the fake scars glued to his face.
It ruined suspension of disbelief. It was so obvious he was just a guy who was irritated by the shit stuck to the sides of his mouth.
Tommy Flanagan doesn't fidget with his scars like Heath fidgeted with his makeup. People with real scars don't do that.
>>63604656
Except he's miserable and alone and living his final years in depression...
> He has a reputation as something of a womaniser but Jack Nicholson has admitted he is now lonely and is facing dying alone.
>The actor said that he still has a "yearning" to be with somebody but believes his chances are "not very realistic".
>The 77-year-old lamented how he cannot chat up women in public any more and that they no longer trust him because of his reputation as "Jack the Jumper".
>>63606722
Oh wow an award he didn't deserve given to him because he died and a nomination he didn't deserve given to him because it was SO PROGRESSIVE.
Watch The Dark Knight again and see him fidget with his makeup. It's not a performance at all.
He has false silicone scars glued to the sides of his mouth and he can't ignore them or pretend they are real scars because he's a bad actor.
>>63606733
>You either die a junkie, or you live long enough to see yourself become the grandpa.
>>63606733
Still gotta admit that's better than being depressed and killing yourself because an Olsen twin and maid didn't call 9-11 in time.
>muh matlida
>I can't sleep
>p-pills
>>63606884
Hi Jack. There's no need to be so salty. Your 89 performance was pretty good just not as good as Heat's.
>>63607008
>implying Nicholson even knows how to get on the internet
>>63607008
>i was a toddler when Dark Knight came out and was too dumb to realize people with real scars don't constantly fidget with them
I thought Heath was an excellent joker.
Y'all mofuckuhs CRAZY
>>63607130
Why did he constantly fidget with his makeup instead of getting in character?
>>63607073
You see the joker is the kind of person that would fidget with them. Because, you know, he's batshit crazy and sadistic.
Nicholson had prosthetics as well and never licked his face like a faggot.
For something that was meant as a "tick", Ledger sure did over do it. Then again, he was probably fully aware he was in capeshit and figured subtlety was never an option.
>>63607248
Yeah, kinda like Leto and his tattoos, right anon?
LOOK AT MY TATS AND TONGUE, I'M COMPLETELY UNSTABLE! HA HA HA
>>63607292
Ledger wasn't doing it purposely. It wasn't an act.
He was genuinely irritated by the false scars stuck to his face and couldn't leave them alone for long enough to film a scene.
>>63607349
It's much less on-the-nose than that, anon.
>>63601557
fuck off nostalgia fag
>>63607349
fucking idiot
>>63607673
>TDK was 18 years ago
We're at a point now where liking Ledger or TDK would be viewed as nostalgia, rose tinted glasses.
>>63607292
>licks them like three times in a 9 hour epic
>overdoing it
>>63607734
He doesn't just lick them. He also gnaws at the inside of his mouth.
>>63603038
>>63603059
>>63607673
>>63607717
Same fags that are 18 or under.
>>63607396
Source
>>63602702
>just like Brandon Lee in the 90s
>>63603040
IT'S LIKE A HAIKU
>>63607783
It fits the character just fine. I never saw an actor messing with his prosthetic-- just a nervous tick for a semi-nervous portrayal of a character. This is what happens when a good movie becomes a sensation for whatever reason (in the case the reason being Heath giving his best performance just before dying). It gets over analyzed to the point where people forgot what made it enjoyable in the first place.
Good story bout Jack joker:
Every day when jack turned up for makeup, the lead make up artist would comment how he didn't need to put jack's prosthetic joker grin on, because he was doing SO MUCH COCAINE that he already had a grin a mile wide at 5am when he turned up for makeup.
>YWN lead a life as debauched as jack nicholson
>>63601557
Agreed
>>63601656
Agreed
>>63601557
>>63601595
>>63601656
>heat
One extra letter, you're too lazy to use one more letter his name is HEATH
WITH AN H
glad we straightened that out
>>63608066
This anon gets it.
>>63601557
Bait: the post
>>63601557
Mark Hamill was a better joker than both of them put together and he never even had a live action role.
>>63610999
Heat Legend is a great actor.
>>63602288
Hello tumblr
>>63601557
They both chewed up every scene they were in. The difference? Ledger had no charisma, Jack did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlC5eKhqR8
Anyone that says anything differently is "just sayin' that because HEAT legend died".
They're both shit portrayals.
>>63612319
Kek, I was crying when Jack was sobbing and telling the video store employee how much Ledger's performance meant to him. Hahaha
>>63612319
>my memory was refreshed
>he died
>you just can't mix medications
>he was a GREAT acTOR
*sobs*
>sorry, I have very strong feelings on the subject
>I start cryin' out loud, they're always laughing at me
Anyway, um, my memory was refreshed. We went out sunday morning, he was playing the JOker, as usual. I told him this was very serious because HE WAS USING DRUGS. Of course I was right. *sobs*
>>63612306
>Nicholson Plays himself with makeup.
>>63613970
>Ledger plays Tom Waits with mom's lipstick
>>63611704
Mark Hamil can't even laugh like he used to anymore. His Arkham performances sucked compared to his performance in TAS & JL
>>63614018
Ledger atleast modeled something that wasn't himself, Jack can't be act like anybody without aping himself.
>>63614046
That's why I said 'was' and not 'is' he's too old now but his performance in TAS alone trumps any performance of the Joker ever, it's the definitive version.
John DiMaggio was a good Joker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLwXcRq388M
