>"Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy, designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control."
- Simon Pegg
>"A sweet-faced boy of twelve told me proudly that he had seen Star Wars over a hundred times? I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities"
- Alec Guinness
>"I don't think they are making [comic book movies] an elevated art form, I think it's still just Batman running around in a stupid cape.. It's for kids, it's adolescent in its core. "
- David Cronenberg
>"I don't want to see or make films about super heroes that fly around in spandex and a cape solving the problems of the world. I think it's fine for children, children of all ages by the way, but it's not for me."
- William Friedkin
>“They have been poison, this cultural genocide, Because the audience is so overexposed to plot and explosions and shit that doesn’t mean nothing about the experience of being human.”
- Alejandro Iñárritu
>"Superman makes me vomit, Batman and all of that. That whole empire... this religion... It is so important that superheroes suffer... I don't give a damn, I shit on the United States."
- Alejandro Jodorowsky
>"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's characters at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence"
- Alan Moore
>"It’s produced by humans who can’t stand looking at other humans. And that’s why the industry is full of otaku!"
- Hayao Miyazaki
>"The movies are for children but they don't want to admit that... There is a small group of fans that do not like comic sidekicks. They want the films to be tough like The Terminator, and they get very upset and opinionated about anything that has anything to do with being childlike."
- George Lucas
Endless Poetry when?
>>63587598
How can one senile psychomagic alchemist fraud be so based?
>>63587741
Because he knows he's an oldFool
>>63587545
Never like superhero films to be honest.
>>63587741
>This is nothing
>*carefully stuffs it back*
>>63587764
God damn that is the best bonsai I've ever seen.
i'm just as excited for The Revenant as i am for The Force Awakens
>>63587545
Simon Pegg is part of the problem
>>63587545
not exactly gonna disagree here
Miserable cunts.
>>63587955
pleb
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>>63587846
He's Jewish, anon
Don't tell him to do the impossible
Did she get JODO'd?
>>63588336
>Sasha, joo eat excrehment, joo can turn jourself into gohld
>>63588363
Based
>>63587545
Substandard b8, Op. Try again.
>>63588408
-In college?
>>63588797
What
>>63587545
Based jodorowsky.
Look, deep down I'd like to be a rancher living on pre-industrial means but my cowboy fantasy doesn't fly these days I work a shit wage job and pay taxes and say my prayers at night because that's the last grip I have on my spirituality since I gave up on church. This old Jodorowsky guy can talk alot of shit behind a wad of cash but the stupid fuck couldn't walk a mile in my low class shoes.
>>63589376
>This old Jodorowsky guy can talk alot of shit behind a wad of cash but the stupid fuck couldn't walk a mile in my low class shoes.
Nah, he'll rape your bride instead and film it and put it in his movie.
>>63589376
How is that in any way relevant to that quote?
>>63587545
I think AGI and Moore are the only ones i can say i agree with.
>>63589376
He was poor as fuck and from a poor part of Chile nonetheless, so shut the fuck up. He's done ten times more than you have, and he had a fucked up hard life.
I don't even like the guy that much, but patronizing him in that way just makes you look like you know nothing about the guy. And just decided to throw shit at him.
DUDE MY DRUG INDUCED EXPERIMENTAL WANKING HAS SUBSTANCE LMAO
>>63589687
>>>/sw/
forget remaking Dune, when is Jodo going to make more films about guys shitting into giant glass jars?
Daily reminder /pol/ makes threads on /tv/ to prevent people from enjoying what it perceives as Jewish-made entertainment. This is such a thread.
>>63590112
Jodo doesn't give a shit about jews, and he resents them, since he loathes his parents. He is more of a self hater like Kubrick.
Jorodowsky always struck me as a man bitter that he never found a main stream audience, and turns that into a lash to whip the broader population for not appreciating him more.
He's too genre to be really loved by the cinema chic audience and too weird for the mainstream. It's what hurts him more than anything else. That he has an off-key voice that only resonates with other off-key people.
>>63589687
>what is jekyll and hyde
>>63590252
>Jorodowsky always struck me as a man bitter that he never found a main stream audience
Why would he want a mainstream audience? This is the man who co-founded the Panic Movement, a movement that railed against surrealism becoming too mainstream.
>>63587545
I just don't give a fuck, op.
>>63590252
>main stream audience
>>63590302
>Why would he want a mainstream audience?
He only became viciously counter-culture out of a sense of rejection and isolation from the main stream, but all his attacks at the mainstream come with this odd yearning for validation that most counter-culture artists possess.
The man is a militant, and can't do things by half measures, but he's a self-hating militant that only knows how to attack. All of his works are not real creations so much as creation through violation of other mediums.
There's a reason he leans on rape metaphor and perversity in his dialogue on creating film. The man can't create, he can only violate.
He knows his stuff is bizarre, but he'd rather attack the audience for being unappreciative of genius rather than do any long self-examination out of fear for what he'll discover about himself.
The man and his work has no real ability for self-reflection in it. It's all external noise.
>>63590408
yet you had to make this post.
>>63590418
Sounds like you're projecting there, mate.
>>63587545
>I don't give a damn, I shit on the United States."
>- Alejandro Jodorowsky
Who? Pretty brave buddy, considering no one in the USA knows who you are or cares for that matter.
>>63590447
>Sounds like you're projecting there, mate.
Think about Jorodowsky as a man and an artist a bit more, as well as his history.
>>63587545
It's been a while since I've seen this autism
>>63590418
I mean maybe, MAYBE, you can get that from his movies. But the dude is a renaissance man and has made some good comics and written some interesting books about his life and advice.
>>63587545
>implying jodorowski isn't spiritual excrement as well
Ok, Blavatsky, you can stop already, we all know it's you.
>>63590418
What is this armchair psychology?
>>63590522
Dubs confirm.
>>63590470
>Everytime
The "we don't think about you" rebuttal is pretty much a guarantee that the poster is extremely butthurt but entirely incapable of formulating their own argument.
This becomes especially evident when it is applied, such as in this case, voluntarily in response to a comment requiring no actual response.
The very fact that you make a post at all invalidates your parroted comeback, brotendo.
Try again.
>>63590555
>>63590592
>That poster is the entire United States
Americans don't give a shit about him.
>>63590592
>brotendo
>>63590510
He literally invented a pseudoscience. He's on the same level as reiki or every stupid chakra shit.
>>63587741
>look at me everyone I HATE money! fuck le system amirite??
>>63590592
Couldn't I just extend that same reasoning to your comment?
>The "YOU ARE PREDICTABLE" rebuttal is pretty much a guarantee that the poster is extremely butthurt but entirely incapable of formulating their own argument.
>This becomes especially evident when it is applied, such as in this case, voluntarily in response to a comment requiring no actual response.
>The very fact that you make a post at all invalidates your parroted comeback, brotendo.
>Try again.
>>63587846
yeah, we only need money to live but it isn't important.
>>63590674
>That poster
Yeah okay, buddy. Sure.
Either way, you've made sweeping generalizations on behalf of the entire united states twice in a row now, hence my comment.
So feel free to unfuck yourself at any time. :^)
>>63587545
These guys seem as intelligent as your average /tv/ poster.
>>63590731
On behalf of the US, I also don't know who he is except for meme 'good movie' lists on 4chan
>>63590723
No? Especially given that I did in fact formulate it all by my lonesome. But nice try though. Unfortunately you have yet again simply parroted a response. Good job.
>>63590731
First of all, not the same guy.
Second, it's a true generalization. Why would Americans know who he is? I only know about him because of this copypasta.
>>63587741
Based Jodo
>>63590758
That point is that it literally doesn't matter. It's just an opinion.
Yet every time someone states something negative about the "almighty freedom states" someone inevitably regurgitates that tired cliche of a response.
>>63590776
>Why would Americans know who he is?
>I know who he is but it's unrelated and doesn't count tho
Are you fucking retarded or something?
>>63590800
you've been e-diagnosed
>>63590711
He's not out to hurt people and he's not shilling self help seminars which he easily could make thousands if not tens of thousands doing so a session. He gives out free tarot card readings and asks people write thank you in his hand. If he were genuinely malicious and pressing his beliefs on people telling them gis way is the only way, you would have a point. He just relates what has worked for him and people he's come in contact with.
>>63590821
Yet another parroted meme argument.
c- for effort.
>>63587545
>jodorowsky.
Jodorwsky is a moron. He whines about how money is just paper, then begs people to donate money to him so he can make a shitty arthouse film.
>>63589376
This is one of the most sensible posts Ive ever seen on 4chan
And people will say oh but he was poor, its not all just money its class. My family is comfortable financially but nobody has connections. On the other hand Ive known people from families where their parents were awful with money but had connections, and they never really had to try. They always end up being the philosophical new age assholes who cant appreciate the perspective of somebody who has only their own merits to go on, who was never given a chance by another person that they didnt make themself.
>>63587545
All of you capeshit haters do realize that every single society in the history of the world has had heroes, don't you?
What the fuck do you think Homer was running around doing?
>>63590820
Okay, autist, fine. 99% of Americans don''t know who he is. Is that acceptable for you?
>>63590848
>>63590886
>that obvious samefag
Atleast attempt to change your posting style a little.
>>63590896
As acceptable as:
>99% of internet statistics have been promptly excreted from the posters rectum mere moments before it's utterance
>>63590767
>I patented the "user only replies because he's butthurt" argument
Ha ha, ok buddy. Sorry, I forgot how special you are, champ.
Can I cite you the next time I call someone out?
>>63590892
They want to be snobbish elites but they spend their time posting memes and pictures of underage actresses on a Mongolian tapestry forum.
>>63590899
>this mad
sorry I triggered you
:^)
>>63587545
What's with this wankery over MUH DEPTH and MUH MATURITY?
People go to the movies to have a good time, not to sit through a university lecture in film format. If that means temporarily lifting the anxiety from the audience then good for them.
>>63590711
He doesn't actually believe in some supernatural woowoo, just thinks that tarot is a self-reflecting guide that works for some people
>>63590942
Go ahead
I feel like you can't take any one sentence or scene or whatever idea of Jodorowksy within just that one context. To fully get his message you have to get to "know" more". Of course money/greed is evil but we all need money because that's how society works
>>63590970
The idea is that some people, very clearly not the majority, actually ENJOY deeper intellectual pursuits than mere escapism.
Those people are usually the ones that actually contribute something of cultural value at some point in their lives.
>>63591010
>we all need money because that's how society works
You seem to not realize that there isn't ONE unified society on planet earth.
Plenty of contemporary human societies don't utilize money. Even relatively modern western ones such as the amish.
>"Nerd culture is the product of a late capitalist conspiracy, designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control."
Nerds are often childish, but can't take this seriously. Sounds like he's trying to write a thesis, just make us laugh monkey boy.
>>63590731
>buddy
>>63591078
They sell quilts don't they? So wouldn't people be giving them money?
>>63591114
>>63590700
Don't have an aneurysm, you little penis.
>>63591078
ya sure, but we live in our society where cash rules everything around me. that's not going to change.
>>63587545
>>"A sweet-faced boy of twelve told me proudly that he had seen Star Wars over a hundred times? I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities"
>- Alec Guinness
kek
if only Alec knew how bad things really are
>>63591138
Good goy.
>quoting rap lyrics as an actual socioeconomic stance
>>63587545
But the people who watch Star Wars and Marvel movies are the mainstream.
The people who stay stuff like this are usually social outcasts with no friends.
>>63591163
what are you getting at you idiot. we need money in our society because that's just the way it is, you can't just stop making and using money because you're fighting the system. you don't even have an argument
>>63591032
Again, what's with this obsession over "contributing" to culture? Not everyone is driven by ego or is "on" all the time.
>>63589415
Jodorowsky is so fucking great. xD
>>63589174
you just know
>>63591198
>name calling
no need to get butthurt, my assless chap.
>>63591228
(you)
>>63587545
>Capitalist conspiracy
>CAPITALIST
Wow, you guys are total fucking tools. Maybe that's why you blame your attention to capeshit and pleb tier bs like star wars to other people and "comspiracies", EVEN WHEN YOU CAN STOP WATCHING ALL THIS SHIT ON YOUR OWN. YOU ARE NOT BEING FORCED TO, IDIOTS. ITS A VOLUNTARY CHOICE.
>>63591202
Contributing to culture isn't unanimously ego driven, you cocksleeve.
Nor is it necessarily an obsession. Stop trying to use your banal rationalizations as actual arguments. You don't want to think, that's fine for you. But don't try to angrily enforce it on everyone else and try to shit on people who do enjoy intellectual pursuits.
>not everyone is "on" all the time
You don't have to tell me, mate. In fact most people are "off" most of the time. That much is clear as day.
>>63591032
Then they can become professors, or non-fiction authors, or philosophers. Its no one's fault but they're own that they decided to produce talkies.
>HURR DURR DA WORLD IS INFANTILISED
An intellectual man may watch 'manchildren trash' after a day of intellectual pursuits as he'd rather relax at that point than listen to some self-professed genius give his world view.
>>63591258
(triggered)
>>63591304
What exactly are you arguing against? Because to me it seems like you're just manufacturing some imagined complaint here.
Where do you see anyone complaining that they're making movies?
>An intellectual man may watch 'manchildren trash' after a day of intellectual pursuits as he'd rather relax at that point than listen to some self-professed genius give his world view.
Again with this rationalization bullshit.
It is ENTIRELY possible to relax while indulging in intellectual activities.
Maybe you're just extroverted and prefer social gatherings to solitary introspection.
Or maybe you're just not as smart as you want to think you are.
But then again who is.
>>63591377
Yes, they can be both, but they don't necessarily need to be. A lot of OP's quotes just seem butthurt about capeshit getting attention, without even considering that people simply don't take film-making as a whole particularly seriously and there's no moral impetus for anyone to do so.
>>63591286
Why aren't you one of these people who enjoys intellectual pursuits, if I may ask?
>>63587545
It sounds like these guys have done some retreating into science fiction themselves.
>>63587545
>designed to infantalize the consumer as a means of non-aggressive control
>plays in star trek
>plays in star wars
>obsesses about geek culture
Nah, I dont beleive it
Let's be honest: you could discard everything from the 20th century and nothing of value would be lost.
>>63590792
Based on what?
YES
E
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Jodorowsky has a solid comic background; except he approaches the medium as an adult, with adult ideals and concepts. By that I specifically mean fuck a superpower. Fuck tights and endless CGI battles through endless CGI cities.
Between the actual graphic novels of Grendel and the Dark Knight, mixed with the 2006 version of The Punisher, shitty comic book movies should be way more advanced than what they are. The truth is that the studios cater to the pg-13 crowd to make money off of merch and marketing (get your Star Wars McNugget pack todaaayy) and therefore the comic genre is the worst market to make actually serious films.
I mean, imagine if Goodfellas was a comic first; watered down to a pg-13 version where Pesci's character had a talking dog that only he could understand; DeNiro consulted an oracle of inner light, and there was no drugs or sex...COOL make that into a blockbuster!!!
>>63591213
> wants to make a film of a book he hasn't read
you keep using that word "great". i don't think it means what you think it means.
>>63588336
That look.
>you know
>>63587545
>doesn't read dune
>makes a storyboard book that is arguably the greatest movie never made, based on the book he didn't read
He really did it. The absolute mad man!
>>63593512
>By that I specifically mean fuck a superpower. Fuck tights and endless CGI battles through endless CGI cities.
> incal series
> heroes wear tights, fly around fighting robot presidents
> Jealous God series
> heroes wear doublets, fly around fighting priests
> alef-tau series
> hero doesn't wear much because he's missing both legs and an arm
> flies around fighting an evil wizard
.. revolutionary. truly groundbreaking shit right there.
>>63591957
My man
>>63591957
What's it like being retarded?
>>63591957
Compared to the great 21st century right, right, wink wink nudge nudge.
>>63587545
>why aren't people watching my depressing 2deep4u non english language interacial gay romances when offered a superior alternative?
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Literally the state of directors
>>63590886
I agree bro. I've seen this shit first hand.
>>63591202
And thus spoke the NEET, otherwise known as Leechus in Societus.
I like both childish mindless entertainment and intellectual masturbatory wankey.
>"I don't think they are making [comic book movies] an elevated art form, I think it's still just Batman running around in a stupid cape.. It's for kids, it's adolescent in its core. "
What does he envision? What does he think elevated capeshit would be like? Watchmen?
Absolutely right, and yet I can't look away.
>>63591812
Just because he likes the source works doesn't mean he can't dislike the way they are commercialized.
The problem isn't that these things exist and are enjoyed, its that they are now used to distract from rather than enhance a person's life.
>being this mad that rich American investors wouldn't invest in your shitty acid trip flicks
JUST
>>63590943
underrated desu
>>63587545
>All these directors probably had terrible childhoods
>>63587988
Funny how he's become such a franchise whore (Star Trek, Three Cornetto, Mission Impossible...) yet he shits on nerd culture as if he's now above it.
Fucking hypocrite.
>>63595721
elevated capeshit according to jodo is where the main character takes drugs, experiences a spiritual rebirth and then disappears up his own asshole.
YES, MADWOMAN OF THE SACRED HEART, I'M LOOKING AT YOU.
Jodo made 2 good movies (El Topo and Santa Sangre) other than that he's a hack and his best work was in comics
>>63597475
... which featured fantastic artwork.. that he had very little to do with.
