Were the changes made to Star Wars really that bad?
They were completely unnecessary
>>63573921
No. It's just a reddit meme.
There were a lot of changes that cleaned up a lot of the effects that were totally necessary.
It's the insertion of new effects and unnecessary clutter that are terrible.
It's so dense
Yes.
>implying Greedo shooting first doesn't cheapen Han's character arc
>implying that CGI dinosaurs walking in front of the frame isn't distracting as fuck
>implying that a CGI dance number in RotJ isn't retarded
>implying Vader screaming NOOOOOO in RotJ doesn't ruin the scene
>implying Hayden Christensen belongs in these movies
They're objectively inferior versions of the movies
>>63573921
it's gonna be great
Some are good, some are terrible.
Didn't they finally make an unspecialized edition of these movies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaXgK5HRBjk
>that part where a cgi thing walks in and all you can see is a low res texture over the whole screen
Bravo Lucas
>>63574061
>Hayden Christensen
His acting was actually pretty good considering the script and the greenscreen shit he had to work with.
>>63573921
It wasn't dense enough. Now the density is just right. There's so much going on.
>>63574126
I think this has to be the weirdest one of them all.
Why the Emperor's scream?
>>63574095
Harmy's fan edit is the best
when will star wars become public domain?
>>63574132
lmao linnkkk. i love these
>>63574159
Yes, but there was no need for him to be in RotJ
Making the picture clearer and cleaner was for the better. Shoving in needless CGI stuff was stupid especially since jabba looked so bad
Most of this board hasn't even seen the originals and their opinions on it are based on what people have told them.
>>63574159
It really wasn't.
No doubt George kept reshooting until his delivery was as shitty as it possibly could be but every line he says is awful.
>>63574132
It was cool in 1997, the first re-release. I think it's because of the sucess of Jurassik Park, Lucas feels obliged to add CGI like his friend Spielberg.
Remember he is jealous of the sucess of others movies
>we're never going to beat Titanic
I think i find the key to all of this.
They mixed in shitty 90s CGI with the practical effects from 77, so it all looks ridiculously out of place.
>>63574159
Hayden Christensen is a terrible actor who's one decent performance was in shattered glass. Where he was playing a person with no emotions, occasionally pretending to have emotions.
>>63574190
This
I'm glad they replaced Yub Nub
>>63574257
>Implying
even if that were true the edits didn't get truly retarded until the 2004 DVD release. The 1998 included some positive changes, like the new music at the end of RoTJ.
Fuck you Yub Nub is shit and doesn't fit the moment at all.
>>63574322
Most egregious of all the changes. Yub Nub is based
>>63573921
George just threw up all over the originals and added clutter to every shot. Totally unnecessary. The biggest problem with the prequels is having a nonsensical story with boring characters and throwing too much shit on the screen. Having alot going on in every shot doesn't make an interesting movie.
The changes were awful
>>63573921
Yeah, that one specifically sucked because it fucked with the flow of that scene by adding clutter and bullshit to it, when it needed none. Also the CGI looked like swinging dicks.
What's with people constantly trying to make excuses for Lucas' bullshit on this board? I mean, it's so easy to shoot down, but you keep trying.
>>63574363
>Yub Nub is based
>>63574417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNbzSH84mj0
woops
>my vision of what people tell me star wars should be is correct and not georgieos! its totally unnecessary
>>63574445
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
>>63574006
>that were totally necessary.
Absolutely fucking not. The movies worked perfectly without them. Fucking with old movies is never necessary, unless you're removing damage from the originals or something like that. Cleaning up the audio is also acceptable.
Everything else is self-indulgent bullshit.
George Lucas didunuting wrong.
>>63574061
Hayden isn't even that bad; they added jar-jar to the ending of RotJ, during the celebration of the death of the empire, you can hear him yelling "wessa free!".
Fuck you, Jorge.
>>63574221
>Disney movies
>entering the public domain
>>63574455
>the CGI rocks they added at 3:16 make it impossible for R2 to get into that space to begin with
amazing
>>63573921
The changes in A New Hope and Return of the Jedi where shite, distracting and unnecessary. What he added to Empire Strikes Back was ok
>>63574221
Never. Disney will just change the law so it won't.
>>63574166
Can we diminish the effects of it?
It's not like you should care so much about those minor changes, but the fact that Lucas thinks some rocks infront of R2D2 make the movie better might hint, that this guy isn't really sane.
>>63574490yeah it's pretty cool but I like the soft jazz better
>>63574301
>who's one decent performance was in shattered glass
He acted like a crash test dummy in that one, surely you jest.
What the fuck was George thinking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yxuDU8gims
>>63574159
Script is a valid point, but green screen is stupid. Pretty much all action movies have extensive green screen in them.
Anyone who thinks the changes weren't that bad needs to rewatch the Jabba's Palace musical number
Daily reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4
>>63574424
counterculture
>>63573921
The greatly enhanced picture and audio quality were fantastic, the film's mono or 2 channel audio was enhanced with a more modern 5 channel stereo mix and there were a couple of small clean-up touches like removing obvious matte lines that really helped.
However the special editions were also a testbed for Lucas to CGI VFX tests for the prequels and he also fucked up the academy award winning editing either out of spite for his ex-wife or because he has brain damage.
>>63574680
>someone actually agreed to sing this, for nothing more than money
>someone animated it
>>63574680
Thats great
Its not georges fault you can't understand the art behind it
>>63574680
For what purpose
>>63574680
Imagine all this is simply for two things :
-ton of money for the rerealed 97'
-if it's possible to do a believable full digital CGI charachter in the next trilogy (2001)
Now it's 1999 you have a ton of money AND yes cou go full digital. What do ? MY FUCKING PREQUELS
You really get anthing on this board.
>>63574680
>>63574363
This. Yub Nub is based because it dials down the celebration to a local one. The Alliance has some breathing room, but it implies that the fight is not yet over.
All of the added celebration scenes are awful. How would they even know right then? Why would Tattooine even give a fuck? Wouldn't everyone on Coruscant be worried? Bespin might have reason to celebrate, but they're likely still under heavy occupation. And fuck the additional addition of Naboo.
>>63573921
No. I don't understand why it triggers /tv/ so much since no one here has seen the original trilogy in theaters.
>>63573977
let's face it, the props and set in A New Hope was shitty B series stuff.
No, they were tasteful and improved the movie greatly.
>>63573977
Mos Eisley was supposed to be a bustling spaceport. I'd say Lucas went too far but the intention is clear
ly incompetent.
>>63573921
No they weren't. Lucas fucked up with the prequels being too dense with shit so in order to make them flow into each other more naturally, he added creatures and shit in the background.
>>63574493
The movies look a lot better, senpai. It's the additions that were shit, but if you didn't know anything about them you'd probably like them.
>>63574991
or he could've make the prequels…sparse.
>>63575042
It's easier to add things than it is to remove.
>>63574941
>How would they even know right then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjrOBxnYubs
Old Morse Code
>2015
>not watching the Harmy despecialized editions
>>63575100
fun fact the man talking near the start is major Tom from MGS
>>63575111
>2015
>watching garbage and not the real vision of an artist
Do you play videogames and read comics too?
>>63575100
Is that Zero?
>>63574579
Because Stephen Glass is a walking talking crash test dummy.
>>63575173
>>63575158
yeah, zero
>>63575161
>Lucas
>artist
Pick one.
>>63575158
>>63575173
ayy thanks mate
did anyone else get really horny during the scene where the weird naked animal thing farts on jar-jar?
It always looked so sexy to me like it knew it was being sexy and naughty
>>63575193
>lucas
>not an artist
Stick to capeshit and disney star wars movies pretending to be star wars plebe
>>63574977
This one actually pisses me off more than the others. Like a team of people must have looked at that and said "Yeah now the scene is better. We really fixed it guys"
>>63575264You fucked up the pasta anon
![newr2rocks[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DlxvPSP.jpg "newr2rocks[1].jpg")
>>63574006
>>63575264
Did anyone save the epic reply in this thread?
>>63575340
>>63575383
wait what?
>>63574974
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm going to spam this in every star wars thread I see.
>>63575016
oh yeah, cuz I love seeing a cgi monster block the camera for a good 5 seconds.
they are the dumbest thing ever
>>63574622
As someone who's actually never seen the original from the beginning I can clarify that both of these scenes are goofy as fuck.
>>63574190
its so hard to figure out how to get a copy tho
>>63574159
>>63574159
His acting was, good, he had shit fucking script
Yes.
Jesus, they're just as annoying as those click-bait ads all over a fucking webpage.
>>63575472
have you heard of the internet
I downloaded all 3 yesterday
>>63574680
This especially is like the prequels taking a huge shit on RoTJ.
At least it's fairly short
>tfw marthoning all 6 star wars movies with my friends right now
It's going to be a long 14 hours
>>63575514
get off /tv/ and enjoy the films and your friends company
>>63573921
Greedo shooting first changes Han's character. That's our introduction to the anti-hero of the series, he's supposed to be a badass "shoot first ask questions later" type but no, he lets Greedo get a free shot in
>>63575472
Oh yeah, torrents are so difficult to figure out.
>>63575514
>posting while watching a movie with your fucking friend
You fucking faggotI wish I had a friend to watch it with
>>63574493
>Fucking with old movies is never necessary
Oh please, I'll bet you still think we should have guns IN A CHILDREN'S MOVIE
>>63575561
I doubt the general audience cares or even cared to be frank.
>>63575578
I'll be your friend. Stream it, senpai.
>>63575376
This is one of the worst offenders, literally how did R2 get in there
>>63573921
The editing that made the image clearer was great, and there are a few subtle background changes that I liked. But I don't like where they seemed to try to stuff every frame with a ton of added special effects like pic related. The addition to CGI creatures and moving things break any connection with the film. I can't focus on what's happening because I can tell the CGI doesn't work with the film that was made long before it existed.
Lots of scenes don't work at all, like making Greedo shoot first, Han literally calling Jabba a human being because the scene was originally had a human as Jabba (the scene being included is also retarded because it repeats dialogue already given with the Greedo scene and was deleted for a reason), R2 hiding behind space between rocks that would have been impossible for him to get in, the musical number in Jabba's palace, etc.
The best improvement they made was the ending to Return of the Jedi, replacing the music and adding scenes of different places in the galaxy cheering. It worked, helped the movie feel move complete.
>worth the wait
>>63575376
>yfw in the next release, there'll be another rock and you don't see R2 at all
>>63574159
This
>>63574557
It's stylistically designed to be that way.
>>63574337
I agree. The new ending movie that replaces Yub Nub is actually one of the few special edition changes I like. The addition of the Biggs deleted scene in A New Hope is also one I like.
It's just irritating that there are about 5 different versions of those films out there. Movies aren't textbooks, why would they even let him do that?
>>63574805
>you've spent four years and a shitload of money learning to be a professional CGI animator
>you've loved Star Wars your whole life
>the day you got a job at ILM was the best day of your life
>hyped to be working on the remaster of your favourite movie of all time
>come to work one day, have tones of ideas on how to touch up the film without anyone noticing
>put your jacket and bag by your desk, notice a message from George himself sitting on your computer
>about to lose your mind in excitement
>as you read the contents, the colour drains from your face, you feel your hair going a little greyer and your eyes sinking into your head a little
>you yell something about not feeling well and you're going to take the day off, head for the door, forgetting your jacket, lighting a cigarette with shaky hands before you're even outside
>"A musical number?!?" you think to yourself
>that night, you're at a bar, knocking back whiskey
>your unattractive "singer/songwriter" girlfriend is rambling to you, but you hear nothing
>the bartender, an older Slavic man who you know pretty well asks if you're alright
>you're holding more whiskey then a distillery right now
>set down your drink on the bar
>"You guys wanna be in Star Wars?"
>>63573921
Sheev and the windows in cloud city were good changes.
>>63573921
no they werent, but there was really no need to make any changes
>>63574159
Give me 3 movies where Hayden was a good actor.
>>63575848
>The addition of the Biggs deleted scene in A New Hope is also one I like
Nah, fuck that. Ultimately pointless and fucks with the pacing of the movie.
There wouldn't be an issue if there was a way to get the unaltered versions in high quality without resorting to homemade projects.
They're children's movies. Who cares that much about this shit?
>>63575916
I dont even think I can give you three non-star wars movies where he was AN actor.
the changes to thx 1138 were worse
>>63575873
10/10
>>63574680
It's not even the worst special edition scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93DzOXD_91o
>>63575873
Bravo
>>63575972
People trying to impress people on facebook with "nerd cred"
>>63575326
Which Playstation 1 game is this from?
>>63575161
>Implying Harmy's despecialized isn't the closest you can get to watching what Star Wars looked like in 1977.
Didn't someone upload an edit that is the closest to the original theatrical release? Does anyone have a link to that?
>>63575916
He was good in RotS.
>>63575982
how did they eve have footage for this scene?
the cgi is obviously modern, but ford was as young as he was then
>>63576008
Tobal 2
>>63575982
>Jabba -- you're a wonderful human being
What did he mean by this?
>>63574301
He was okay in jumper
![se_rotj_snoodles[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mZewIoX.jpg "se_rotj_snoodles[1].jpg")
Thanks for this, george.
>>63576068
>>63576096
Jabba was originally supposed to be a human. They shot this scene back when the movie was made, but they cut it because it fucks with the pacing and is completely unnecessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw1gkNd6Z_8
Do NOT believe Lucas' story on this scene. He claims that Jabba was always meant to be an alien, but there is ample evidence to disprove that. Lucas is a notorious liar when it comes to the history of Star Wars.
>>63576068
This was a deleted scene they lacked the tech for. Hut was supposed to be a humanoid creature, but they scrapped it since technology of the time wouldn't allow for this kind of "luminescent brilliance". But when the special edition needed more rocks, farting Jar Jar whores, and evidently, this monstrosity, Lucas threw caution to the abandoned wind, and along with it, his dignity, shorts, and whipped out his throbbing cock to piss on his legion of fans with a grizzled smirk. "It's just midochlorian rain, my children."
>>63576055
Search for "harmy tehparadox" in a search engine. You'll find links to all three movies.
>>63576154
>that mouth
>jizz
POTTERY
>>63574126
What the absolute fuck is this? Please tell me this is a fan edit.
>>63576068
they shot the scene originally, planning to add in jaba in post production, they never did it.
in the 2004 version they added the original scene with cgi jaba
>>63576154
Jizz wailer*
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz-wailer
>>63573921
>>63573977
Pretty bad and unnecessary, yeah. There were good changes, of course, but mostly I don't see the point.
Like the Jabba scene in ANH. It ruined Jabba's mystique until his reveal as a fat slug in ROTJ, plus it's redundant as fuck. Everything we needed to know, we could take away from the Greedo scene.
But I liked the minor changes made, like new shots for the Death Star assault at the end, and most of the stuff in Empire Strikes Back. And fuck Yub Nub.
But that doesn't excuse the horrible, pointless shit he added.
>>63576167
>This was a deleted scene they lacked the tech for. Hut was supposed to be a humanoid creature, but they scrapped it since technology of the time wouldn't allow for this kind of "luminescent brilliance". But when the special edition needed more rocks, farting Jar Jar whores, and evidently, this monstrosity, Lucas threw caution to the abandoned wind, and along with it, his dignity, shorts, and whipped out his throbbing cock to piss on his legion of fans with a grizzled smirk. "It's just midochlorian rain, my children."
I actually watched episode 4 for the first time last night. Even though it was my first time, I was still distracted by all the obvious CGI garbage I could tell wasn't originally in the film.
>>63576248
>Like the Jabba scene in ANH
I think the worst thing about that scene is Han stepping on Jabba. It looks so awful.
>>63576271
https://thepiratebay.bid/torrent/5335527/Star_Wars_Trilogy_(The_Original_Unaltered_Trilogy)
I could go down the list, but New Hope had the most offending changes and additions.
Stuff like the Jabba scene, which for the audience is just repeating already delivered information from the Greedo scene, and just extra fluff.
Then there is stuff like the dewbacks and CGI stuff added in the Mos Eisley scenes, including a dewback walking in front of the shot for a few seconds, effectively blocking the scene.
Greedo shooting first undermines Han's character arc and that sequence
Replacing the practical halloween mask costumes with CGI aliens made the cantina crowd look less intimidating, and thus ruined the atmosphere of that scene.
Honestly, Empire Strikes Back is the only special edition worth watching. Outside of Luke screaming as he falls, and us getting a clear shot of the Wampa, everything in ESB 90s Special Edition was an improvement. The Battle of Hoth got some much needed touch up, and the opening of the windows and extending the flight sequence into Cloud City really made that whole city feel as grand and alive as Lucas wanted us to see in the original.
RotJ's biggest offending touch up was adding the bulb in the center of the Sarlaac Pit, and changing the Hutt Palace Band to a CGI dance number.
I won't touch the Blu-Rays, since most of the changes there were even worse.
>>63576271
Oh man, you're so cool. Upvoted.
>>63574987
Mos Eisley was supposed to be a small space port on a backwater shithole of a planet.
>>63574455
oh my
Completely unnecessary, but did almost no damage to the plot.
The Jabba scene in ANH can go fuck itself.
>>63573921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zlUUrFK-M
>>63576298
Get despecialized instead.
>>63576366
wait, was Jabba originally human or did they just have them there so Harrison Ford had someone to act off of?
I feel like the only reason why these changes even exist is just for marketing purposes
>>63575982
>fett looks right at the camera.
Bravo
>>63576299
You're forgetting Boba Fett's changed voice in Empire. The new one sucks.
>>63576427
From what I know of, the film crew didn't really know what Jabba was going to look like so they used a human actor as a placeholder
>>63576427
Jabba was originally a human. See >>63576158
If you want the full story, read:
http://fd.noneinc.com/secrethistoryofstarwarscom/secrethistoryofstarwars.com/jabba.html
>>63574971
I did. I'm 44.
>>63576427
Well, considering most of the star wars main cast were supposed to be weird aliens or other weird shit, but then people convinced Lucas to have human characters, Jabba was also turned into a human character. But when Lucas had more creative control in Return of the Jedi, he was like "I'm gonna do Jabba my way!!" and then we got fat slug Jabba and all the other faggotry that permeates the first 30 minutes of that movie.
>>63576455
That was the 2004 edition, not the 1997 edition.
Like I said, worst offending change in 1997 was the addition of Luke screaming as he fell.
The Wampa scene is a hit or miss.
>>63576491
If true that's pretty cool man
only thing worthwhile about cgi star wars is the outrider flying out. everything else is either lame cgi or just outright crazy stupid shit
>>63574971
That's the point? No one who was born after 1983 watched original versions of original trilogy in a theater, and if they saw them on home video, it was on Laserdisc at best.
>>63576299
the old cantina scene was so fucking cool. that one creature that was completely in the shadows, except 2 red dots watching them.
and spoiling Jabba before ROTJ was just dumb.
the creature blocking the scene is the most heinous of them all. I can't imagine the thought process behind it.
>>63576585
I was born after '83 and somehow saw the originals on three ancient VHS tapes. Couldn't see shit on our little 17" TV.
>>63576504
You fucking idiot, the first half of Return is fucking amazing.
I like the Jabba scene in ANH.
The CGI is shit, but I like it.
>>63576655
Wot? the only good part of the movie was the throne scene
>>63576689
what specifically? please, go into great detail why this is a good scene.. I'd love to hear it.
>>63574622
I'm sorry but when Obi-Wan sounds like jontron, you've got a problem on your hands George
>>63576568
Yep it;s true. The stormtroopers boarding the Tantive IV is still my favorite scene of all time. Still have the original action figures that I replayed the scene over and over with. When Battlefront 2 came out and I could actually play the battle... it was a religious experience. People really don't realize just how much those films changed things.
>>63576800
It's a fun little scene about Han trying to save his skin a little bit is all.
>>63576835
REEEEEEEEEE
>>63576366
Han Solo, I'm HUTT
>>63576699
Thats the best part of the movie, Ill admit.
But the Jabba stuff was always so fucking interesting. It established the lengths Luke and company were willing to go for Han
>>63574261
>re-shooting
Nice meme. George is well known for his one-takes.
![Toon Link].png](https://i.imgur.com/jO7IaI2.png "Toon Link].png")
>>63575873
The only good addition is the Outrider taking off in the first shot in Mos Eisley
>tfw dash rendar is still canon
>>63574680
When I was little I was obsessed with Jabba's palace. I remember seeing the special editions in theaters, and excusing the awful A New Hope scene because they were stuck within the confines of the deleted scene.
But I had the Star Wars insider magazine, and it talked about how for Return of the Jedi they were shooting new material for Jabba's Palace. All the old creatures! The Jabba puppet! Even the actress who played Oola was back, and she looked exactly the same in make-up! What could go wrong?
And then it happened. I saw it in theaters, and when that scene started, I felt uncomfortable. I had cold sweats. At that moment, I wanted to be anywhere but in that theater. It was a dark portent of the shit to come.
I liked most of the changes desu. 90% of them you don't even notice, like recompositing all the model shots so they don't have those weird black bluescreen borders around them. Going to digital matting made all the original VFX shots look 1000% better, because they lost those black borders.
The CG Death Star battle scenes were great, the Battle of Hoth was improved vastly, Cloud City looked amazing, etc. Revoicing Boba Fett with Jango's actor was inspired. I even liked the expanded Mos Eisley and I don't get all butthurt over the 2 seconds a space lizard walked across the frame. I even though the blinking Ewoks were a nice touch.
That said, Han shooting first and the ROTJ musical number and Vader's NOOOOOO were pure fucking cringe.
>>63573921
>Were the changes made to Star Wars really that bad?
"Every single frame and every single second needs more useless filler material."
This is why star wars story doesn't matter anymore.
It's just a 2 hour special effects filled toy commercial for ADHD kids now.
>>63577327
>This is why star wars story doesn't matter anymore.
>It's just a 2 hour special effects filled toy commercial for ADHD kids now.
This. The prequels fucked up the writing so badly I feel like they can do whatever the fuck they want with all the characters and nobody would bat an eye.
Everybody just goes with the flow nowadays.
It's trendy & 'geek' to like SW...
It's superficial as shit.
>>63574455
>that CGI of Mos Eisley from the 2011 version
who the fuck thought that looked good holy shit
some changes were good
>making the emperor hologram in empire strikes back Ian
some were fucking disgusting
>jabba the hutt in the first movie
some where really retarded
>adding a rock to R2-D2 for reasons
it's like George wanted to touch up some things for an release and then did cocaine. making the actors the same as the prequels makes sense, even spooky darth at the very end. but changing plot, dialogue, or simply making changes because you can is retarded.
To be entirely honest, I sincerely feel that if they re released these with cg Redone by weta to be on par with modern films, that the additions made would be good, if not superior.
But Jedi rock can get fucked.
>>63576366
"When I first shot the scene with Jabba the Hutt, I knew I was going to create some kind of stop-motion creature...I had to have somebody--an actor--play the part so Harrison had someone to play against, so we just picked a BIG GUY and put him in a fuzzy vest.
How come he was never added in as a change? Like a digital version of his outfit in the background somewhere?
>>63577254
I fully agree anon.
>>63577644
Isn't Boba wearing the outfit with a new coat of paint?
>>63577644
His clone wears the armor now.
>>63577692
>>63577693
I always thought it was just another one of those outfits, but green.
Going by the troopers they're not unique
>>63573921
Depends on the changes. I never minded making Mos Eisley and Cloud City more lively (though the lizard walking across the screen as wipe was awkward) or increasing the size of the Imperial patrol looking for the droids or the touching up to the X-Wings approaching the Death Star, showing celebrations across the galaxy at the end of Jedi, those all worked.
Greedo shooting (fuck first, at all), the re-insertion of the Jabba scene, Luke screaming as he fell at Bespin and inserting Hayden Christensen as Anakin at the end of Jedi, those were all very bad ideas.
>>63577707
It's mandalorian armour
>>63577805
Yeah, figured he grabbed a new set of those.
Anyway, I agree with that other anon. I thought it was cool redubbing with Jango's voice.
>tfw watching the documentary about the making of apocalypse now and lucas pops up
and he was supposed to direct the movie originally, wondering how it would have turned out
>>63577834
There's probably a comic that shows how he gets the armour, but in the (canon) show TCW he's regularly seen being a complete faggot with his bounty hunter pals Bossk and that white bitch, and he never wears any armour
2004 looks like a shitty video game
1977 looks like a picture from a real place
I'm not very much into Star Wars, only watched the original trilogy once (before the bullshit started changing in 1997). A big shame about the whole situation, especially with the continuing shit shit in Episode VII with the main character being a no-talent baboon looking nigger Jew Jew Abrahms chose to fuck with Disney
>>63574455
lel I still can't believe how fucking terrible that 1997 version of Jabba looks. How could anyone look at that scene and still want to include it in the movie
>>63577897
Really?
That fucking sucks.
Although I heard that the TCW show also brought back Maul, so I wouldn't be surprised
>>63577882
>Colonel Kurtz, the Vietcongs are evil!
>FROM MY POINT OF VIEW WAR ITSELF IS EVIL
>>63574061
>implying Vader screaming NOOOOOO in RotJ doesn't ruin the scene
My gf who hadn't seen the film since she was a child laughed at that scene.
>>63577976
When does he scream in RotJ? I either dont remember it or I've never seen that version by the grace of some deity.
>>63574322
Anyone who hates Yub Nub is a degenerate Millenial faggot
>>63578029
In the original scene Vader says nothing. Jorge decided to add Vader getting all dramatic and screaming NO NOOOOOOO twice while picking up the Emperor and tossing him into the trash
>>63577976
You don't have a gf, though.
>>63573921
The 2004 version is a complete clusterfuck. Too much bullshit happening at once.
>>63578029
It's something they added in the Blu-ray version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3u70WELSEg
>>63577970
Fucking kek
>>63578072
this is true
I have a serious question.
As someone who was too young to remember anything prior to the prequels, was the OT originally numbered 4-6, with the idea being that there would later be prequels? Or were the episode numbers tacked onto the movies when the PT was announced?
>>63577970
>>63578142
I dont even think they had numbers, just subtitles.
>>63577967
>brings back Maul
Oh it certainly does
TRIGGER WARNING
>>63578111
I like it
>>63578142
It was always episode IV. It confused me as a kid too.
>>63578142
When "A New Hope" first came out, it was just called Star Wars. That's all. No numbers, no subtitle.
>>63575376
top fucking kek.
>>63578142
Only after they added "A New Hope" to the original Star Wars movie.
>>63578157
WHAT THE FUCK
>>63578162
It wasn't, Jorge. Go back to secretly working on that 2016 Special Edition.
>>63575660
Forced perspective. For all we know, there is enough gap between those rocks for him to go around.
>>63578186
>>63578167
So when did the numbers pop up?
>>63573921
Although the CGi was really shitty sometimes, I think some of the changes were helpful. Like the Mos Eisley shot. It helps to expand the universe and be more descriptive about it.
>>63575472
no it's not
>go to original thread
>it specifically tells you where to go to download the movies
>it specifically tells you how to get an invite
you can do this all in half a day and have all the movies by the end of the second half
>>63578111
because vader screams no at the end of 3 when the emperor has beaten him it only makes sense that in 6 the emperor would scream no
how poetic
>>63576158
>just one of the lads
guys ive never watched the film in their entirety
i am watching machete order and finished 4 and 5 but im debating whether or not to watch episode 1 before 2 3 then 6
do i watch episode 1?
>>63578364
If you actually respect Machete Order, you shouldn't watch it.
>>63576828
>tfw leaving a save game in the campaign of battlefront 2 so you can board just like the movie instead of the shitty beginning of the normal map in instant action
>>63578142
it happened during the theatrical re releases in the 90s
originaly their subtitles were the main titles of the movies and ANH was just called Star Wars
I've seen bits and pieces of the originals but doubt I've ever seen one all the way through. Which one should I watch?
Acceptable changes:
Emperor's face
Explosion effects
Bad changes:
Everything else
Die in a fire changes:
The song in Jabba's palace
Anakin ghost
>>63573921
>adds CGI clusterfuck
>doesn't add the scene with Biggs and Luke at the tosche station
lame
>>63574455
that krayt dragon 2011 call...
>>63577964
I mentioned earlier that I think they should just redo the cg, but God dammit, I'll take prequel Jabba over that thing any day. What the hell were they thinking?!
>>63578234
Empire Strikes back was Episode 5 from the very begining. After that, they renamed the original movie as episode 4.
>>63578072
chut up
>>63573921
Did they really add a black guy?
>>63575916
Jumper
>>63578721
>jumper is 3 movies
>>63574493
Think you're forgetting stuff like the internal view forward from the snowspeeders being transparent in the original films, you can literally see the walkers moving around through the interior of the craft (no I don't mean the fucking windows).
They cleaned that stuff up and it looks good now.
I need to find some good fan edits and watch those.
>>63575982
>1:03
>>63573921
I was happy when Disney got the rights to the series because I thought they would release unlucased blu ray versions of the original movies. Hopefully they are just waiting until after the first movie comes out.
Some were awful like jabbas palace band and greedo shooting and others were unnecessary like putting an extra rock in front of R2
>>63578192
It's a pretty good story arc.
>>63576655
>enjoying dancing retarded aliens
Confirmed for underage. MODS!
Anyone have the gif of Alderaan firing first?
>>63578157
thats actually really cool, he looks like Baal from Diablo II
>>63579015
>>63579226
heh
They may have gone too far in a few places
>>63575982
>Jabba. you're a wonderfull human being.
What did he mean by this?
>>63579226
every time
>>63579521
He was being a kiss ass because Jabba is a thuggish gangster. But with a little bit of sarcasm.
![wolfman1977a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zjmtlRj.jpg "wolfman1977a[1].jpg")
WHY DID THEY REMOVE WOLFMAN
>>63573921
>Were the changes made to Star Wars really that bad?
Yes and no.
Some changes were actually fine. These typically included small touch-ups or fixes (such as the Imperial offices wearing their medals upside down, for example).
However, a number of these "cosmetic" changes are harmful as they either use effects that also became dated or were just bad ideas (new musical number in ROTJ).
Any narrative change was an absolute disaster:
>Greedo shooting first
>Changing Boba Fett's voice
>Replacing Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen
>"NOOO" to ROTJ
>>63578454
started with episode 4, deal wid it.
>>63574622
Oh man.....oh man.
