What did you think of ex machina /tv/
>>63546329
Me likey
>>63546329
it's a good filmifabout women's lack of humanity
>>63546329
It got me thinking on what's the boundary between consciousness and programming.
It's the 2001 of our generation
>>63547432
Literally nothing to do with woman at all, it was a robot with no gender that was designed to look like a female human. /tv/ took it way out of context.
>>63547628
The Master holds that honor
Pretty dumb flick tbqh
>>63546329
When do I get my waifubot bros?
>>63546329
I really liked it and am pleased it seems to have acquired a decent-sized following.
It taught me that even robot women are to never be trusted.
>>63546329
Her > Ex Shit
>>63547799
People....... people don't actually think this, right?
Why'd he give all his robots small boobs and ass?
>>63547838
Sup reddit
>>63547859
the IRL reason is that Alex Garland cast two ex-ballet dancers intentionally because he wanted to get a specific style of precisely controlled body language out of them. ballet dancers don't have big tits and asses.
>>63547838
I do.
I'm not baiting.
Her had its stupid moment. Scarlett Johanson who is a terrible actress (also terrible voice actress) was one. Another was was that idiotic Alan Watts moment, which was cringeworthy. But overall the overarching theme of the superintellce coming and "escaping" us, the feeling of alienation caused by people interacting with the AIs, many things were good, the atmosphere was totally spot on.
As for Ex Shit, it's a piece of garbage. Totally cliche. It's a movie for idiots, sorry.
so wheres my asian sex robot already?
hurry the fuck up, science.
>>63547971
Her is barely even a story. Ex Machina only seems cliche'd if you don't grasp what sets it apart from all previous AI movies, which of course you don't, as you thought Her was good which makes you automatically a pseudointellectual retard.
>>63547971
you liked Her better because you identify with the protagonist more. no need to get mad.
>>63548061
ex machina is just as cliche as every other AI movie in that none of them actually have anything to do with AI
>>63546329
I liked it, one of the most airtight sci-fi scripts I've seen in a long time.
Kek film
One of the worst movies of the year.
>>63547971
nothing in Her was as cringey as when they started quoting the bhagavad gita in ex machina
also "hacking the system"
>>63548114
>you liked Her better because you identify with the protagonist more. no need to get mad.
Yes, I do.
Ex Machina is devoid of content. Is she evil or not? Does she really love him or not? Hmm! Who would know! Oh, snap! She evil! She kill humans!
What a fucking idiotic story.
>>63548061
>what sets it apart from all previous AI movies
There's absolutely nothing setting it apart. Zilch.
>>63548143
You have shit tastes, sorry mate.
>>63548156
This anon knows his shit.
>>63548121
Wrong, Her has something to do with AGI's transition into ASI. Of course it's a caricature, it's cartoonish, if you get techical people won't follow, then it's not entertainment
>>63548061
>what sets it apart from all previous AI movies
Ah that good old contrarian /tv/ pretentiousness, where you overrate a nothing but average movie while claiming the others just didn't 'get it' as much as you did.
>>63548223
But that was the thing.
The entire movie was just the test Isaac's character was conducting.
If the AI could get out with any means necessary she was perfect, she was human.
If you were captured and put in a cell, wouldn't you do anything to get out?
She wasn't evil and she never loved the guy.
Great film.
Fapped a couple of times to it thats how I know its good
>pic related makes my body go wild slurp
>>63548532
How is that concept ground breaking again, or something 'that sets it apart from all previous AI movies'?
>>63546329
did nathan have a selection of fleshlights for mounting in the robot bodies?
>>63548532
no. the ai was programmed to escape. any means necessary. he used the lonely guy cold blood and then left him for dead. A normal human wouldn't do that. that was the test. if she could show compassion
>>63548669
How many AI movies have the destruction of the maker as their ultimate test of intelligence?
>>63548555
Unbelievably hot
Stanley Kubrick’s influence has ruined more movies than any other great director’s. The new sci-fi non-thriller Ex Machina by novelist Alex Garland is a perfect example of how Kubrick’s misanthropy and technological “genius” (as seen in 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, and The Shining) have combined to keep several generations of filmmakers in a state of cynical juvenile pomposity. They mistake copycat vanity for creativity. Ex Machina’s lead character is its least interesting character: not the comely, artificial-intelligence female robot, Ava (Alicia Vikander), or her barefoot, beer-swilling techno-genius inventor, Nathan (Oscar Isaac), but the nerdy computer analyst, Caleb (Domhnall Gleeson), who works for Nathan’s company, Bluebook, and is invited to spend a week in a high-tech bunker conducting secret tests of Ava’s consciousness. Caleb is the fanboy audience’s surrogate: so young, brainy, and virginal he doesn’t realize he’s lonely, which makes him a dupe for his idolized wizard of odd. Caleb gushes to Nathan: “If you have created a conscious machine, it’s not just the history of man; it’s the history of the gods!” Despite having the history of mankind available on personal devices, Caleb never learned the myth of Pygmalion and Galatea — Kubrick nerds not being fond of the lessons formerly taught in humanities courses. Garland tries Kubricking the Pygmalion myth so that it resembles other misanthropic sci-fi films like Gattaca, Simone, Species, Her, and Under the Skin. The dystopian gimmick seems personalized in the mind-games played between Ava, Caleb, and Nathan, but there are no surprises — which really means no revelations — when hubris meets its comeuppance.
>>63548780
But Ex Machina has other problems besides cultural ignorance. From the moment Ava appears, with a mask-like face and visible computer hardware in her arms and torso like the maternal mecha who shelters robot David in A.I., the figure of a female without innards or a thrumming hard drive exposes Garland’s fanboy misogyny. By the time Caleb and Nathan finish discussing race, gender, and sex (“A consequence of accumulated external stimuli”), it’s unmistakable that Ex Machina is pandering to a teenage boy’s sensibility. (Simple commercialism probably explains Ava’s look: She’s like a casting agent’s test-tube hybrid of Natalie Portman and Rooney Mara, while Nathan typifies any bearded hipster from Williamsburg to Silicon Valley.) Omitting Deus from the title is a red herring. How many Kubrick nerds know it’s supposed to complete the title phrase as a modernist reference to theatrical effect, narrative artifice, and the imitation of divinity? There’s no deus in Garland’s details. At least Spike Jonze’s Her had sci-fi visual chic, but Garland’s bland imagery doesn’t enhance his mediocre ideas — even the mountainous landscape out of The Shining carries less emotional impact than the elusive paradise that beckons a lovesick Tom Cruise in the underrated sci-fi lament Oblivion. Garland’s only cinematic effect occurs when Ava causes a power cut in Nathan’s man cave of solitude, and everything shifts to red-toned emergency lighting intended to evoke the scene of HAL 9000’s dismantling in 2001. Garland depends upon his audience’s being both nerdy and impressionable.
>>63547908
>a-am i doing it right?
>>63548747
...by extension as seen in EM -since that was never what the guy intended to do- quite a lot. It is a fucking common theme in a lot of media actually.
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>>63548836
>quite a lot. It is a fucking common theme in a lot of media actually.
Examples?
>>63546329
It was good until the last act
>Nathan did nothing wrong
>Caleb was a pussy fuccboi that got kek'd by a robot
>Ava was just a talking fleshlight
>>63548869
The emancipation of the machines in Matrix is the first that comes to my mind, there are thousands more but I am tired.
Has Nathan created AI all by himself?
>>63548966
That's not their test of intelligence, idiot. The Matrix has the Machines and their creation as a backstory while Ex-Machina ponders on what it means to be actually intelligent. In this case it's the AI finding a way to dupe humans successfully to meet its own goals, thus putting her as indistinguishable from any other human put in a similar situation.
>>63548869
Terminator, the AI in System Shock
In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
"What are you doing?", asked Minsky.
"I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-tac-toe", Sussman replied.
"Why is the net wired randomly?", asked Minsky.
"I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play", Sussman said.
Minsky then shut his eyes.
"Why do you close your eyes?" Sussman asked his teacher.
"So that the room will be empty."
At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.
>>63546329
Nathan did nothing wrong
Ava did nothing wrong
Caleb did nothing wrong
Kyoko did nothing wrong
Prove me wrong
>>63549070
>63549070
In this animated Matrix shit it was literally said, that the machines overcoming their fleshy masters was their last necessary evolutionary step to enter the stage as a fully entitled life form.
That's the theme here: Overcoming your master to develop your full potential. In these AI movies pandering to the phobia of overly rapid developping technology making the master and jailor the human species itself. EM adds literally nothing to that concept, even its exact setup can most certainly found somewhere else.
>>63548869
Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell
>>63546329
Pretty darn good, but also very overrated.
>>63549343
>overrated
they didn't even show it at cinema where I live because they thought it was too shitty
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>>63549272
>In this animated Matrix shit it was literally said, that the machines overcoming their fleshy masters was their last necessary evolutionary step to enter the stage as a fully entitled life form.
OK but where was this the basis of that entire film? It was just a casual remark in one episode of a straight to DVD cartoon anthology of the main film series. The main theme of those two shorts was the technological arrogance of humanity (something that's in Ex-Machina too) and the plot certainly did not revolve around humans putting the AI in a cage and wanting them to escape to prove their intelligence.
>even its exact setup can most certainly found somewhere else.
Why are you so averse to posting specific examples?
>>63549311
>Blade Runner, Ghost in the Shell
Not about AI
>>63548223
Linkara?
