Can HBO be saved, lads?
Is Rome worth the watch? Probably wrong thread to be asking this.
Internet culture happened.
>>63539945
Yes
>>63539930
>forgetting Leftovers
>Forgetting show me a hero
>Comparing the 4 greatest shows they've ever done with stuff only airing during 1 time period
Stop
>>63539930
>people already getting nostalgic for the 2000s
great I guess we know what the next wave of Hollywood reboots will be then
>tfw TD S1 gave me hope
>tfw S2
>>63539970
>Forgetting Lost 2
>Forgetting Gentrifikektion:The Show
You're right, probably should add those too.
>>63539997
>implying that wasn't the peak of hbo
>>63540014
how the fuck do you like the wire if you don't like show me a hero
>>63539930
Not sure what they're doing
>>63539970
Leftovers is shit. Go to bed, Lindelof.
>>63539930
Missing Carnivale, a shame it's not more well known considering it helped HBO become what they are today.
>>63539948
Internet was great, then 2007 happened.
>>63539930
fixed that for you
>>63540040
Game of Thrones happened and they realized that they don't have to try.
>>63540051
Hey Reddit!
>>63540021
personally I thought Rome and Deadwood were overrated, deserved to be cancelled and survived primarily on edginess. Wire and Sopranos are at the peak of narrative art of any genre, though.
The Brink and VEEP are bretty gud
>>63540099
I'm watching the 1st season of The Wire and I just got done watching the episode where DeAngelo teaches the younger kids chess. I was blown away! I had to watch it a couple times to really pick up on it, but did you guys realize that when he was teaching them about the chess pieces, he was really referring to THEM being the pawns! What an incredible metaphor!
It was so deep and meaningful, I am amazed by the symbolism of this.
Do the later seasons continue on with such masterful symbolism? This was truly the pinnacle of storytelling that I have ever seen on a television show, and I think I can confidently say The Wire is the best show ever made without even having seen the entire series.
Also the acting is amazing. Idris Elba and Dominic West do a great job with their Baltimore accents.
>>63540037
The wire is an accurate depiction of corruption on both sides of the law. Doesn't sympathize strongly with one side or the other.
SMaH is blatant leftist propaganda.
>>63540082
>don't have to try
yeah they just have to spend the most anyone has ever spent on episodes of TV, and have the majority of their audience watch via bittorrent anyway.
>>63540037
I enjoyed SMAH but it's not even close to the quality and scope of The Wire. It's also short as fuck. It's a fucking mini series. Hell I enjoyed The Jinx far more.
>>63539962
But what if I have absolutely no interest in history?
>>63540099
>rome overrated
What show has the naked lady eating cake on the commode?
>>63540129
The money was put into style over substance. Way easier to CGI some Epic battle/fight scenes than craft a quality script.
>>63539945
I like it until they stared to rush through Season 2 because it was ending
>>63540173
Don't worry about it
>>63540157
still yes
>>63540128
The Wire's best working solutions shown throughout the series are all extremely leftist pretty much like David Simon constantly talks about
>>63540144
Yeah, no shit, it's a miniseries as opposed to a full five season show, but its message and setup is pretty similar.
>>63540173
>lady
that's a hobgoblin
man I would give anything for Rome or Deadwood to have an extra season instead of fucking GoT going on forever. it's too bad those shows were never able to attract the same gigantic rabid fanbase
>>63540097
Leftovers is literally Reddit: The Show.
>>63540129
Spending big money doesn't mean quality. In case of GoT it's the opposite. Personally I'd rather see less muh dragons cgi and le epic snow walkers and more well written/acted/directed scene between characters.
GoT killed HBO.
>>63540123
epic post anon, but yeah, to little niglets that is about the height of symbolism
>>63539930
Their dramas are shit.
GoT was good but became shit.
Same with TD. Leftovers is shit though.
HBO's comedy game is good though. Minus Girls, they've been really good. Beep, Silicon Valley, Enlightened, FotC, Eastbound.
>>63540014
nice memes bro
Where did everything go so right?
>>63540219
I didn't feel the same way. SMAH had an obvious liberal message and wasn't afraid to show it. The Wire went hard on everyone and everything. Also, SMAH focused on the struggles of one character while The Wire didn't do that at all.
It doesn't compare really. SMAH is smalltime as fuck in every aspect.
Girls is a great show because I get my fair share of naked fat girl. Thank you HBO!
>>63540341
not relevant to your point but i've heard several people shitting on treme and i just don't get why
it's possibly the comfiest show on tv
>>63540362
Sure, but that's partially because of the format - you're comparing a 60 episode series to one with a tenth of that. Also, what "obvious liberal message"? Especially as opposed to the not obvious liberal messages the Wire had
>>63540157
Yes, definitely. It may even MAKE you take an interest. Be warned: the quality drops off sharply in S2. James Purefoy keeps it nicely watchable, though. And you'll never be able to think of anyone but Ciaran Hinds when you think of Julius Caesar.
>>63540407
Coming off Gen Kill and The Wire is tough. Those are amazing shows and it's hard to live up to them.
I love Tremendous, for its simple story and just being a show about life. But it's no Wire.
Does nobody on /tv/ like the leftovers?
>>63540407
"It's too slow"
I mean, it is, but it has a pretty great way of showing a community and the workings of it. Definitely the show (together with Mad Men) where it actually felt like dipping in and out of a bunch of real people
>>63540070
hmmm gilmore girls was a good show and americaclaps is terrible
>>63539930
but true detective is great you faggot
IS THIS THE ROMA THREAD?
ROMA
O
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A
CAESAR DID NOTHING WRONG
>>63540341
>Ali G
>implying
>>63540407
it's great. and the soundtracks are fucking amazing
>>63540458
the picture is op's post is of true detective, not true detective
>>63540497
>CAESAR DID NOTHING WRONG
he let himself get stabbed
>>63540421
I'm not using liberal as an insult here. The show was obviously pro the whole public housing thing to the point of calling the guy who fought for it hero. And everyone who opposed it was portrayed like a retard except for that old confused lady who comes around eventually.
>>63539945
Very much worth watching. Acting is exceptionally good.
Also, HBO has made some questionable decisions, my guess is they'll run into trouble if they can't find anything decent after GoT.
>>63540556
I wasn't implying that, and the message of the show is pretty clearly liberal, there's no denying that. I'm just amazed you didn't see that in the Wire (or for that matter, Treme, where the only specifically Republican guy is a fucking asshole).
>>63539945
It's literally the most patrician you can watch.
>>63540062
Boxxy?
>>63540598
The Wire wasn't that liberal despite the obvious liberal influences here and there.
>>63540643
Iphones happened that year and TBBT too, it can't be a coincidence, though I have a feeling if social media shit was around earlier then shows like Carnivale, Rome or Deadwood wouldn't have been saved anyway.
>>63540723
good point
>>63539930
Leftovers is good enough HBO for me to look over all the other current shit.
>>63540062
>Missing Carnivale, a shame it's not more well known considering it helped HBO become what they are today.
And that's why its HBOs biggest disgrace to have it cancelled, it's worse than fucking DW getting canned.
>>63540740
Something else had to have happened besides those in that time frame, we know Iron Man came out the following year which helped launch the cancer Marvel Cinematic Universe but I feel like we're missing something that connects it all.
>>63539945
i have a follow-up question to this, is it possible to find torrents that aren't absolutely shit in quality of rome?
>>63540880
Yes.
>>63539970
Rome was 2005-07
The Sopranos was 1999-07
The Wire was 2002-08
Deadwood was 2004-06
So those four shows were all one at the same time.
Along with Six Feet Under and Curb Your Enthusiasm
>>63540421
Not him, but people conflate 'liberal' and 'leftist' an awful lot. It's very tough to take away a right-leaning message from The Wire, and while a right-libertarian might broadly agree with the thrust of its attitude to eg the drug war, just examining David Simon's politics is a reasonable clue that the show skews left. IMO people forget sometimes that it's perfectly possible to attack leftists *from the left* (I think that's why people get confused about Orwell), and I think that when The Wire is criticising liberals, that's what it's doing - attacking from the left.
>>63540939
where
>>63539945
Absolutely.
>>63540964
I recently downloaded quite decent 720p rips. It would probably require as much effort to go look for those as to reply to this post; don't look to be spoonfed. They're not, like, hidden.
>>63540852
>>63540037
They're very different. The Wire isn't half as preachy.
>>63540880
even in High Def the show is still pretty shit
>>63540953
I guess that makes sense - I'm not American so I tend to be confused by the "liberal" terminology in general (i.e. in my country the "liberals" are centre or right-ish), and it often seems to mean "leftist".
>>63540497
>adult octavian's actor
why
how can you stupid fuckers forget this show
>>63541134
What? It's in the fucking OP
>>63541081
What are you talking about? He's just as good as teen Octavian.
>>63540248
But anon, GoT is good.
>>63541134
Mongoloid.
The only HBO show that doesn't get mentioned enough is Six Feet Under.
TD S2 was bad but do you really have to lump it with that other garbage?
Also
>leftovers
>>63541263
>He's just as good as teen Octavian.
>>63541297
GoT was mediocre at best during its first couple seasons. Now it's TWD-tier bad.
>inb4 you also think TWD is good
>>63541358
He's a cold, calculating patrician. What else did you expect?
>>63541408
>What else did you expect?
Writing and acting on par with the first season.
>>63541383
TWD is horrible, mainly because the acting is horrible, but also because the plot literally goes nowhere.
GoT has some similar issues, but it's still better than TWD, even at its worst. And the acting is far superior, well, except for a couple of unfortunate casting choices.
>>63539930
>HBO NOW
>TD season 2
Are you some massive tasteless cunt? Scum like you shouldn't be allowed on this board. Absolute moron.
>>63541438
I disagree with you anon. I find both Simon Woods and his script good. Especially in the scenes when he's dealing with his slutty female relatives or Antony.
>>63541297
It's shit.
>>63541313
AWARDS WERE LOST
NO SEASONS SIGNED
I LOST MY JOB
THE SCRIPT WAS MINE
I HAD A JOB
I DIDNT TRY
I HAVE A NAME
ITS PIZZA PIE
PIZZA PIE
PIZZA PIE
I WROTE THE SCRIPT NOBODY LIKED
THE STORY'S TOLD
WITH HACKY LINES
I HAD A NAME
ITS PIZZA PIE
>>63540294
Heheh Beep. And all those shows are nbc sitcom tier, with a smidgen of edge for the hbo audience.
>>63539930
>>63541579
You got me there, Oz also doesn't get mentioned often, without it paving the way there most probably wouldn't be any worthwhile shows at all.
>>63541530
It's really not that bad even though it's hugely popular. It did become a bit more tedious in the later seasons, that's true.
>>63541609
Nah Veep is very good.
>>63540173
Girls, and the "lady" in question is Lena Dunham.
silicon valley is great they
>>63540037
I hated Show Me a Hero. There was a pathetic message at the heart of it. Poor black people are completely incapable of improving themselves and their lives, and need white and Jewish liberals to do the work for them through the force of law. Everyone had such low expectations of blacks. Meanwhile everyone else who paid full price for their house suffers.
Pretty racist if you ask me.
>>63541466
season 2 was shit
but here's your contrarion point
You can't take a picture. HBO is already gone
>>63539930
>not including Oz
>>63541999
>>63539930
I don't know why you didn't include Six Feet Under when it's better than literally every show on there.
Oh i forgot, it's /tv/ where little NEET manchildren need their crime and fantasy fix
Can't deny Sopranos greatness though
>>63541603
time is a fat pussy
>>63541999
so reality? from your description they nailed it t͏͏b͏͏h f͏͏a͏͏m
waste of trips
At least we have The Leftovers.....
Sir Larry David is about to come save HBO
Leftovers ispretty goodtoo
>>63541438
>>63541358
>>63541081
the young octavian actor was garbage though
