He was more trouble than he was worth.
>>63534342
Captain, I project a 70% rate of failure for this thread. Due to my analysis of previous Trek threads, anonymous posters seem to not respond well to threads pertaining to the Star Trek television series during the daylight hours.please prove me wrong bros...
His brother was, sure.
But he saved the crew more times than he endangered them.
he was also a shit actor
>>63534690
in not your "bro", mate.
damn never realized how green his eyes are
>>63534721
>implying this work of art isn't being taught in acting schools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW_fdRrFGbk
Gabtan, dell me aboud your benis. :DDDDD
>>63535064
>>63534812
>>63535064
It figures australians are still awake. Wrap it up, we'll save this for later.
Hey! It's that guy from the Independence Day.
I think he played that crazy scientist or something. Are you telling me he was in something famous before that?
![01_02_the_naked_now[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/l4lFiZ1.jpg "01_02_the_naked_now[1].jpg")
Fully functional
>>63534713
he kills the crew a zillion times in that loop episode. the only person worse is frasier.
>>63535139
he's confirmed for independence day 2 as well, even though his character died in the first one. can't wait to see how emmerich will BS his way around that
>>63535424
That movie is going to flop so hard without Smith.
You're INSIDIOUS Javert!
COMFY
O
M
F
Y
they would of died so many times if it wasn't for that nigga.
He killed the Borg Queen (the first time) after having sex with her and saved them all
>Computer, create one million fully self-aware copies of Adolf Hitler
best and worst ST races?
>>63536172
Top Tier:Tholians
Botton Tier: Alien Predator rip offs from voyager
>>63536093
why didnt the hirogen think of this.
>>63536259
>it's a Janeway defeats the Nazis by channeling Katherine Hepburn episode
>>63535813
i still think he's gonna do a surprise cameo
>>63536172
I nominate special alien doggo as best Trek race. Prove me wrong.
Post rare Janeways.
>>63534812
He's not your mate senpai.
Federation in general: modern America/Europe
Vulcans: Ancient Greeks
Romulans: Romans
Klingons: Mongols/Germanic barbarians
Cardassians: Nazi Germany
Bajorans: Jews
Ferengi: Stereotypical Jews
correct?
>>63536698
Borg: liberals/sjws
>>63536698
>>63536733
wow! FUNNY stuff guys! I haven't laughed this hard in AGES, truly lmao
>>63536468
That dog looks chill as fuck.
>>63536698
Klingons were the Soviets during TOS era, and the Romulans were the Chinese.
MUH COLD WAR METAPHORS, etc.
>>63537366
Klingons were not REALLY the Soviets but the Federation was sure as hell the US or more precise their self image. Klingongs were merely the significant other.
i find it funny the federation is literally the UNs logo and almost no one mentions it in this bs.
I want a Tribble.
>>63536667
oof off by one
sad panda
>>63536017
>Have to have your guest walk through your bedroom to go the bathroom.
Only flaw there desu, even if you keep your room tidy seeing someone's bedroom is always a little weird.
BAJORANS LEAVE
>>63537450
They sort of were. The brief Klingon-Romulan alliance in TOS was based on the Soviet-Chinest relationship.
>>63536468
is that kiff and zapp brannigan?
>>63538317
>people can't see my bedroom
AUTISM
U
T
I
S
MI agree btw.
>>63536698
how many times do i have to post this before you accept it
>>63536172
Kazon worst by far
>>63537366
>>63537450
>>63536698
klingons were the japanese, cause people in the 60s still had that image from imperial japan
>tfw daytime Star Trek thread not totally getting cukked
>>63536172
best: pic related
worst: bajora, closely followed by talaxalay
Was he gay?
>>63538600
Andrew Robinson said he played him as "omnisexual", which I guess is a pretentious term for bi.
im sure 80% of the bridge officers lost in service die to randomly exploding screens on the control panels every time ship takes hits
>>63535306
>only person worse is frasier
CRANE?
>>63538785
>not posting this pic instead
i feel ashamed
>>63538819
>tfw the Enterprise gets destroyed in the teaser
>tfw they manage to wriggle out of trouble anyway
>>63538662
There was one moment in the later seasons of TNG where they actually commented on what was happening (IE, a guy was knocked out by a screen exploding and they stated a bit of technobabble like "the anterior pressure tube exploded!")
>>63538881
>tng spinoff
>frasier gets used to tng era life
>lasts 10 season
>>63534342
>He was more trouble than he was worth.
Then so was Spock. Remember Spock's Brain or the Cage.
Nah, remember that time he prevented the Romulans from installing a puppet government on Kronos? That was some real Section 31 shit there.
>>63539202
>tfw
>>63538448
This design is weird, too. What's the deal with that foyer/anteroom thing in front of the bedroom?
>>63536172
Best: Husnock
Worst: Husnock
"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."
EDD
ING
TON
"Commander, tell me about the world series"
>>63538819
>>63542903
"hey bobby, should I replicate a cup of coffee for the road?"What's the best Star Trek cameo?
>>63543547
Mick Fleetwood as a giant fist on early TNG is the literally the only correct answer.
>>63539496
>>63539202
Riker and Frasier are having a coffee in ten forward when in comes deanna to join them, riker and deanna throw a witty barb at each other about either one's promiscuity, then frasier tells deanna about the recital in the holodeck later that evening, to ask if he could get him some nice chocolates to bring his date, dr crusher. then in comes picard and joins them for coffee, and picard tells frasier hell be using the holodeck for his baseball game with his best bud benny. they get in a little argument about it and picard goes off in a huff about not feeling welcome in his own ship. cue to act 2 in which frasier tries to get to crusher's quarters to escort her on his date but is constantly waylaid by ensign roh, who he had a brief relationship with previously, and who he is now trying to juggle a quick date with because he had forgotten he had already made plans with her on the same day to visit the arboretum. cue the back and forth hijinks of frasier thinking he can pull both off one after the other even though crusher keeps showing up early to see if they can maybe get some dinner before the recital. it all blows up in frasier's face when deanna shows up with the chocolates labelled for crusher and roh thinks theyre for her. as frasier begs her not to dump him in the hallways crusher hears all of it and he hilariously finds himself like the dog without a bone. cue credits, in which we see spot batting at the chocolates in frasier's apartment as if they were a toy.
genius.
There were numerous times when the entire crew/ship would have died if he wasnt there
>>63543751
Just playing devils advocate here, but you could say the same thing about Wesley.
GOAT ship-
Captain: Emergency Command Hologram
First officer: Data
Helm: Lore
Science: Lal
Doctor: EMH
Engineering: Computer-generated Leah Brahms and those nanobots Wesley created
Tactical: Moriarty
Everyone else: Emergency [x] Holograms
Organic life on ships is obsolete. Prove me wrong.
>>63538572
Spoke too soon
>>63534342
i have a life-size cardboard cutout of data holding a tricorder in my room. it cost 15 bucks at the local used bookstore. have any of you seen it?
bumpo
>>63546058
What
>>63546058
Yes, you've posted it before.
I'm starting to draw up a 'Voyager christmas special' thing because I think it's sad we don't have any artfags here.
Most of the stuff is inspired by the thread last night, but feel free to give further advice/ideas:
-Neelix reading 'How Seven Saved Chritmas' to Naomi Wildman
-Tom and B'elanna under the mistletoe
-Harry Kim drunkenly trying to entertain an annoyed Tuvok
-Red-nosed EMH giving a painting to Seven as a gift
-Neelix-made Christmas food on a table somewhere
-Janeway dressed in a Santa costume with presents(?)
-Akoochemoya putting a Starfleet insignia on top of a tree(?)
>>63547047
>neelix not bugging tuvok
>kim not standing alone under the mistletoe
>seven not being snotty
its liek you didnt even watch voyager. also, janeway should be in santa lingerie.
>>63543715
>baseball
>Picard
>not Sisko
You're a disgrace to yakyuu.
Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.
>>63536733
I think they represent muslims. Don't tell me that cube of theirs dosnt have a warp drive
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/robert_spencer_and_the_muslim_borg/0018578
>>63538495
This. I went to a Trek con a couple of years back and there were thousands of cosplayers dressed as every popular and/or obscure character ever. There wasn't a single Kazon. They truly sucked balls.
>>63544154
Moriarty can't exist outside the holod... Oh wait this is the voyager era with portable holodecks
>>63547750
Well that's all in-character but I did like the positive-Seven things from the last thread
>>63547980
>technology is the pinnacle of existance.
>trying to acheive perfection by making everyone part of their group.
>everyone votes before every decision.
yeah that sounds like them all right.
>>63544154
>autism
>>63543751
Friendly reminder that Wesley literally killed his friend at the academy.
>>63538437
holy shit youre right
>>63538437
>>63548800
Sulu never really argued or was dissatisfied with Kirk though.
he was just a racist Asian stereotype, quietly submitting to the white man
>>63548942
Another thing JJ really fucked up about the movies is that Takei chose fencing as Sulu's hobby to subvert asian stereotypes, but JJ turned him into a samurai swordsman
>>63548664
>complaining about autism in a /tv/ trek thread
>>63534342
Even considering his habit of going crazy and trying to escape, his vast expertise of most subjects and immunity some forms of mind control made him invaluable to the crew of Enterprise.
>>63549078
Futurama really called that with the "just because I am of Japanese ancestry, you assume I know Karate."
>women being ambitious enough to succeed in starfleet
ITT: People who did literally nothing wrong
>>63547918
>best bud benny
>>63549800
Dubs confirm.
>Tell me doctor, what kind of...enhancements...did your parents have done to you?
>>63550508
nerdism, arab effeminacy, hoity toity accent
pls someone post the sisko celebrity copypasta
>>63536468
sleep right pupper
>>63544154
>Captain: Shra'an. Was frozen for a few hundred years
>First officer: Plucky trill grill played by daddario
>Helm: Vulcan played by Drake
>Science: Moriarty
>Doctor: meme-ing human played by Karl urban. Not like he's been in JJtrek for over 10 minutes
>Engineering: past loving, Soviet accent. Dunno who to cast
>Tactical: Jem ha'darr
>>63543666
well I'll be goddamned
give me a single good reason to even acknowledge anything other than TOS and TNG
>>63552834
giant spock
>>63552784
lmao
>What a handsome race.
>>63552834
there's some furfag shit in TAS
>>63552834
>tfw only seen these two
>most of the funposting in ST threads is DS9 so I can't join in
>>63552834
patrician detected
>>63552834
Voyager has its moments and anyone who says otherwise is dead inside.
Also TAS.I like JJ Trek though so crap on me for that if you want
>>63553207
>>63544154
>Captain: Emergency Command Hologram
>First officer: Data
REVERSE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Data deserves a command and ECH needs some XO time before he gets a permanent center seat!!!
Helm: that poor ensign from Enterprise.
Science: Lal
OK. But only if she's serving under Jadiza
Doctor: EMH
ok
Tactical: Moriarty
Why not O'brien
Engineering
Why not O'brien?
Just watched the Time's Orphan episode for DS9. Are you fucking telling me O'Brien and Keiko thought the best solution was to release their daughter back into the past? That entire sequence was just fucking insane.
>>63536172
Worst. Nasicaans
they stabbed muh captain...
TAS sucks though it's cheesy as fuck
>>63554409
for a man who lived how many years in an alien jail cell to br replaced by a duplicate from the future sounds perfectly rational to me
>you will never be in red squad
>>63554602
Fuck red squad, nog should have taken command as the only real officer
>>63554628
not him but they wouldnt have let him command.
you can tell they thought they were officers already.
entire episode is muh peer pressure.
>>63554628
>he doesnt want a qt vulcan red squad gf
>>63534812
except they were blue in that one alternate realities episode with Worf. Parallels was the name of it. I liked it!
>>63534812
>I'm not your "bro"
We 57, we happy 57, we band of brothers...
>>63536172
Best: Cardassians
Worst: Literally every delta quadrant race
>>63555277
>Literally every delta quadrant race
The Costanzian race seemed interesting
>>63555418
borg seem somewhat interesting
>>63549078
Every time I see this image I'm reminded of how much the Twilight Zone episode with Takei sucked balls.
>>63555277
Remember the anti-borg or whatever they were called? What a shitty arc that was.
The whole end of Voyager too.
>>63554583
you mean that incredibly painful and transformative event that O'brien went through that was never mentioned again?
Fuck I hated that. Dude was in brain jail for however many years it was and he turned out fine after an episode, status quo restored. The whole thing with Locutus had long reaching effects and gave us that great episode where he went back home to the vineyard and reconciled with his brother.
Now this shit has me remembering other shit, like when Janeway, the klingon engineer and Tuvac became borg like it wasn't a big deal at all.
>>63535842
fuck
even the 24th century didn't have a cure for unsightly male (non picard) pattern baldness
>>63544154
If synthetics are so capable, then why does every God damned Data episode revolve around Data trying to uncover unreproducible magic space powers that the human mind apparently posses?
Check mate droid lover.
>>63556032
>Tuvac
Now we know what really happened to him.
>>63556186
Lol, god damn it.
>>63556164
The development of AI brainpower between TNG and VOY (hell, even within TNG with Moriarty) was always confusing. Data was a one-of-a-kind genius machine that was unable to mimic a lot of basic human tendencies, but the Doctor, a dime-a-dozen holographic program, did it all flawlessly. His second line in the series was a condescending crack about which tricorder he needed.
In the post-VOY era maybe Data could get a hologram-tier understanding of humans.
this argument reminds me of that episode where data lost his memories and then he went to that town and gave everyone radiation sickness but then he saved them.
he was a hero to the townsfolk in the end, but it would have been better if he never showed up in the first place.
>>63556256
EMH was a computer the size of a starship.
Data was a computer the size of a human.
>>63557079
I was going to object to this on the grounds that he goes on away missions sometimes, but I guess the fact that he uses tech from several centuries in the future to do so upholds your point. Only then do they have the tech to store his data in a tiny device.
>>63535172
Rape gangs?
>>63534342
Give me several reasons why JJ Trek isn't the best thing to come out of the franchise.
I bet you can't.
>>63557159
1. Pretty much every series has more substantial and interesting episodes than JJtrek movies
2. The series have top-tier waifu game compared to JJtrek
3. JJtrek is just recycled plots from the series and movies
>>63536172
Best: Lurian
Worst without any doubt: Bajoran
>>63557293
>Worst without any doubt: Bajoran
I wonder who was behind this post
>>63552480
I was in a local healthy/expensive type supermarket here in Princeton, New Jersey (we have a lot of those) and I'm in line to buy some ham at the deli there. The lady asked me what kind, and I said "I have no fucking idea what different kinds of ham there are, lady" entirely too loudly and the guy behind me in line I hadn't noticed burst the hell up laughing.
I turn around. Avery Brooks.
He kinda half worms around me and hisses "Honey GLAZEd!" to the lady over the counter and I just kinda stare at him for a sec then smile and say thanks. I'm about to pay for it and he whispers "In THE FUTURE, we won't have money" and pays the check for it right there. I was astounded, it was so awesome that I did the only thing I could think of ... I stood still as he grabbed my ear. Once again he cracks up and asked me if I had any idea how long it had been since someone had let him do that. I said "a year?" he shouts "It's been an EXTRAORDINARY seven years, YOU gotta say!".
We ended up having coffee at a place across the street. Turns out he bought a house in Mercer, a really expensive county in NJ, and has been living there a while. We talked about everything that wasn't his career for a long time-- it's difficult to explain, it's hard to say how long-- before he had to take off because his deli stuff was gonna go bad. I shook his ear and said he made my year today. He exploded with laughter and beat my head in with a baseball bat. I looked up from the floor, my eyes covered in my own blood as I made out a blurry image of an orb being hoisted above his head. Through the ringing in my ears I couldn't hear his probably non-linear parting line regarding "the notion about I as in the context of we" before the orb came crashing down, ending my corporeal life.
>>63557486
Bullshit.
All you fucks have are Wawas there.
>>63557293
>Bajoran
DELETE THIS
This any good?
Also Cardassians best race.
>>63557246
>Pretty much every series has more substantial and interesting episodes than JJtrek movies
Sitting around a table discussing philosophy? LOL no.
>The series have top-tier waifu game compared to JJtrek
Zoe Saldana and Alice Eve conquer them all
>JJtrek is just recycled plots from the series and movies
They made the plots fun and exciting for once instead of bland as hell.
>>63557705
>Zoe Saldana and Alice Eve conquer them all
Objectively bad taste.
>>63557724
m8
>>63557754
>>63557754
>Don't turn around!
>Teehee, you turned around even though I told you not to. You're such a rebel, you don't play by anybody's rules but your own. Let's get married and have a child named David.
Truly an inspiring scene.
>>63552745
>Captain: Horta
>First officer: Sheliak
>Helm: Gorn
>Science: Tholian
>Doctor: Bashir EMH
>Engineering: Lore
>Tactical: Spot
The UFP HP Lovecraft is exclusively used for last ditch diplomatic peace missions to hostile cultures.
>>63552745
>Engineering: past loving, Soviet accent. Dunno who to cast
>Not O'Brien
>>63557754
Literally no curves.
>>63557961
>Tactical: Spot
Truly an unstoppable ship
>>63552745
maybe not shran, but jeffery combs for first alien captain YES
>>63558111
If one look at the bridge crew doesn't convince the foe to sue for peace the realization that whatever weapons they outfitted the ship with were under the control of a housecat will scare them into submission.
Also Spot is probably the only Federation Citizen capable of understanding what each member of the crew is actually saying.
Incomprehensibility bonus: Entire crew is breen with deliberately miscalculated universal translators.Councilor is Orion, Spot is the only crew member her powers work on. Spot and the Tholian compete for her attention.
>>63558609
I think the only thing you are missing here is Armus. Armus can be the morale officer
>>63558703
why not literally have a Q on the crew?
>>63558703
Given the ships mission wouldn't it give better service as Ambassador/Diplomatic officer? Species 8472 might be better for morale, it is the only thing i can of with a alien enough perspective to cheer everyone up. Or make them laugh as the least terrifying crew member.
Pah Wraith possessed Kekio Security officer, only being in the galaxy scary enough to break up fights between the crew.
>>63558966
>Species 8472
Underrated 'must absurd moment in Trek' was when Chakotay french-kissed an 8472
The Crystalline Entity and Sha Ka Ree all ought to be part of the crew as well
>>63557961
UFP H.P. Lovecraft, Diplomatic vessel:
>Captain: Horta
>First officer: Sheliak
>Helm: Gorn
>Science: Tholian
>Doctor: Cardassian Mengela EMH
>Engineering: Lore
>Tactical: Spot
>Security Pah Wraith Kekio
>Ambassador: Armus
>Astrophysics: Moriarty
>Councillor: Orion
>Morale: Species 8472
>Sensor officer: Section 31
>Crew: Breen
Changed EMH to evil cardassian medical scientist guy from voyager, added Moriarty.
Missing anything?
>>63559095
>Crystalline Entity
You mean the ship itself?
>>63559114
>evil cardassian medical scientist guy
Crell Moset LMH. Can't be a EMH, he needs time for his work.
>>63559264
I found the moral qualm in that episode quite ridiculous and unbelievable. Who cares how the information was obtained when it's fait accompli? It would be like refusing medical treatment today because some doctor in the Middle Ages performed unethical actions to get it.
>>63559412
reminds me of when welsey got in that accident at the academy resulting in some guys death.
>hurrr you gotta tell the truth asshole
>why hes already dead lel
>>63559412
At the risk of sounding /pol/ it was emblematic of the liberal moral clusterfuck that is Federation morality.
It was supposed to be an enlightened atheist society but knowing the source of a particular bit of knowledge was enough to make them reject basic scientific facts as inherently evil simply because they didn't like the person who discovered them.
>>63557754
Fridgemode.jpg
>>63559636
except janeway went with it anyway and the bajoran muh 6 million got ignored.
>>63536172
Best: Klingons
Worst: Q
>>63559904
How can you dislike this man?
>>63557623
Yes, it's damned good. It's different from what I was expecting, but still bredy great. Basically
>Garak, the Book, by Garak.
Also, it was written before the current novel continuities, so it doesn't deal with any of that garbage.
>>63536172
Objective best:Humans
Worst: BZ
>>63536698
Federation: America
Vulcans: Buddhists
Romulans: Communist Chinese
Klingons: Japanese samurai
Cardassians: Nazis
Bajorans: Good Jews
Ferengi: Bad Jews
>>63536698
>>63538463
>>63560131
Ferengi were actually Yankee traders.
>>63559884
Well yeah because she is canon fucking evil. I always find it ironic that the two most effective Captains were the ones who were ok with being flat out evil for the greater good.
Janeway gave zero fucks about anything and Sisko saved the federation with an assassination. He didn't disapprove of Section 31, he thought they were incompetent and knew how to get the job done better than them.
>>63539791
>What's the deal with that foyer/anteroom thing in front of the bedroom?
That's where you sit to play your pan flute or play 3-D chess
>>63560168
>He didn't disapprove of Section 31
Yes he did, he just wasn't a white knight zealot like Bashir. Sisko believes very strongly in the ideals of the Federation and Starfleet, which is pretty much the entire point of several episodes of DS9. He just knows that those ideals can't be applied to all individuals in all situations at all times: sometimes, a person might have to personally do something they know is wrong to protect the ideals. S31, on the other hand, is all about doing the shifty stuff all the time, to protect the Federation as an organization, not the ideals behind it.
>>63560104
>>63557623
You know he must have a freakish amount of blackmail power, i'm sure he made to have proof about what happened with the Romulans.
I always wondered if Ambassador Troi looked into his head to see how he convinced the Federation to fix Cardassia before Betazed and freaked out over it. From the Troi episodes of DS9 i think she can read Cardassians but i don't know if that extends to well trained ones. I know Dukat can BTFO a Vulcan mind meld but i don't know if that extends to Betazeds.
>>63560211
how does 3D chess work?
>>63560281
>I always wondered if Ambassador Troi looked into his head to see how he convinced the Federation to fix Cardassia before Betazed and freaked out over it.
u wot
I hope you aren't bringing fanfic garbage into a perfectly fine /tv/ thread.
>>63560168
janeway refuses to use some generator in the void space episode because people are killed over it.
i think she just hates bajorans.
>>63544154
>Organic life on ships is obsolete. Prove me wrong.
There is no point to exploring space if humans aren’t doing it.
>>63560312
In three dimensions.
>>63560168
Insaneway wasn't really "evil for the greater good". Well, sometimes she was, and sometimes she'd demote you and throw you in jail for a month for stepping outside of Starfleet procedure a single inch.
>>63560312
>>63560379
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-dimensional_chess
>>63560366
If the non-organic life is significantly advanced I don't see a difference. They would be equal to humans, just made from different baseline materials, like copper wires instead of sodium/potassium neurons.
Can we agree that Counselor Troi was the worst character in TNG?
>>63560453
Geordi was way worse
>Paulie hated communicators, he wouldn't have one in his quarters
>He got all his communications second hand, then you'd have to transmit the people back
>There were guys, that's what they did all day, take care of Paulies communications.
>>63560490
mind=blown
>>63560485
I would say Geordi had some okay episodes
Most Troi episodes were terrible
>>63560267
Bullshit. Section 31 does those things so that the Federation as a whole doesn't have to morally burden themselves with such things. Sisko knowingly abetted and ordered two murders and started a war even though he knew he was wrong.
Section 31s morality would have be just fine with that but Siskos was not. If it was 31, Garak or the Romulans themselves doing it then it would not be so bad since their moral code would see such action as defensible or even admirable. Sisko betrayed everything he believed in for the sake of expediency, made worse as his beliefs specifically reject the idea of moral relativity for the sake of convenience.
Federation morality demanded that they lose the war rather than stoop to such subterfuge and he knew it. That is the whole point of the Federation.
When you look at it the Ferengi have more moral conviction than Sisko does, they don't believe in the concept of participating in war and have never fought one EVER. The idea that they can survive while upholding their principles but the Federation cannot is a damning indictment of the Federation's core beliefs not to mention Siskos faith in them..
>>63560552
Haven and Face of the Enemy were pretty good, come on let's give Troi some credit, she's bad but not as bad as Geordi
>>63560098
john de lancie was terrific
but omnipotent character plot device should get you banned from fucking scifi
>>63560453
Wesley was far worse than her.
>>63560323
No fanfics, there is a novel set after the war where Garak is ambassador to the Federation and he convinces them to devote resources to fix Cardassia at the expense of Betazed. I have never gotten around to reading it though.
Novels aside, he can blackmail the hell out of the Federation if you think about it.
>>63560668
wesley wasn't around for that long tho
>>63560699
>federation loses its psychics to enemy
>picks that moment to try to hide things
bravo sisko
>>63560756
no he's a fucking mary sue, and wil wheaton has no business on television
nobody would ever defend him, unless you are wil wheaton
>>63560756
It is a meme, but this does not preclude it from being true. I couldn't stand a single episode that focused on him, and I would have legitimately enjoyed having him killed off.
To put that in perspective, I would at least somewhat mourn Neelix if he died.
>>63560756
I'll admit Wesley wasn't as bad as people say but he has his issues
He's like the Mary Sue of Star Trek. Sure he saves the day a few times by being clever sure that's fine. However the whole plot line with him being the chosen one and him disobeying Picard and being super moral and then going off on magical space adventures with the wanderer is fucking stupid.
>>63560611
>>63560611
>Sisko knowingly abetted and ordered two murders and started a war even though he knew he was wrong.
No, he didn't. The point was that Garak did that without Sisko's knowledge, but that Sisko couldn't do anything about it.
>Federation morality demanded that they lose the war rather than stoop to such subterfuge
No, that's entirely wrong. Perhaps an extreme reading of the Enlightened Human philosophy might say that, but that's not the Federation. Starfleet exists for a reason, and there is Starfleet Intelligence, which is all about subterfuge and such things, just not the S31-style skulldrudgery. The Federation won't stand for billions of people being killed (the inevitable result of losing a war with a major power). They went to war with the Klingons in DS9 to protect an antagonistic empire (the Cardassians); they're not pacifists.
>>63560811
>Mary Sue of Star Trek
>>63560699
>there is a novel
So a fanfic.
>>63560699
nobody here ever talks about or considers trek novels bullshit
you must be a spy from a /starwars/
>>63560312
>how does 3D chess work?
http://home.arcor.de/jens.meder/3dschach/chess3d.htm
>>63560879
>you must be a spy from a /starwars/
Analyzing the telemetry data from the comment suggests anon is actual a spy from
>I am a Skin of Evil
jesus christ, really?
>>63560854
I find the biggest problem with Westley is that he always wore a stupid sweater.
That magic rainbow sweater is what gave him his powers anyway, as soon as he took it off he became a huge cunt, put it back on, became mary sue thought wanderer.
>>63560439
>non-organic life
No such thing.
>>63534721
You've got to be kidding. He is the gold standard of android acting.
>>63535172
lol I just watched this episode today. BAC.
>>63555923
you mean species 8472 or whatever? There's alot of cool ideas with them but it's fucking stupid that they were just called some random number rather then an actual name
>>63561190
...says anon No.63561190
>>63561022
Someone hasn't seen Measure of a Man
>>63561272
or Quality of Life
>>63561326
or fire
>I don't take transporters because I believe that if I do the original me dies and a copy takes my place
>but I'll do it in emergencies
>>63561190
thats how the borg classified them
it stuck considering you can't exactly talk to them and ask them their name..
>>63560765
Amazing that they never use them in any logical manner, they are the only race with consistent access to psychics. Yes two of their major rivals (Romulans, Cardassians) are somewhat immune to Vulcans but besides Ferengi no one is immune to Betazeds. But they never really use them. I am not sure if vorta are resistant, i would assume that if the Bajoran ear grab works on them then other more developed methods would as well. Although the ear grab might be some kind of minor sorcery instead of psychic power.
>>63560833
>No, he didn't. The point was that Garak did that without Sisko's knowledge, but that Sisko couldn't do anything about it.
The guy had just been jailed (for only 6 months LOL) for a serious attempt at genocide. Sisko knew damn well what Garak would do which Garak rubbed in his face. Not to mention the fact that he murdered MILLIONS of Romulans by tricking them into a war they wanted no part of.
>>63560855
>>63560879
Fair enough, only mentioned it since someone posted the image of one. The statement about Garak being able to blackmail them stands though.
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>>63560833
what sisko did during his hunt for eddington were crimes against humanity. if he'd been cardasian you'd be calling for his head.
>>63561357
Not that it matters but considering JJ-Verse destroyed everything else, but in Star Trek Online they're called the Undine.
>>63561543
>crimes against humanity
>inconvenienced a few terrorists, didn't even hurt anyone
>>63561552
I had the strangest dream
>>63561579
watch the episode
>>63561412
i get the feeling betazoids dont want to join starfleet very often.
its probably like a school girl cheerleader joining the army.
>>63560453
I thought Troi was the worst.
Until I saw her mother.
>>63561593
I think you need to. He let out a poison that would render the planet uninhabitable for humans. He gave them plenty of warning and they got away, probably to go to the planet that the terrorists rendered uninhabitable for cardies. No one was killed there.
>>63558942
Admiral Janeway believe that a Qs sense of right and wrong as well as its antiquated concepts of moral restraint would get in the way of the of the ships mission.
>>63561643
>I think you need to
no i think you need to. he was releasing shit into the atmosphere that would kill people. they were scrambling to evacuate. he was threatening to make more planets uninhabitable if they didn't cooperate. war crimes.
>it's a Picard will let an entire species be destroyed because MUH PRIME DIRECTIVE episode
>>63561698
>it's a Picard will bitch that a timetraveler won't violate the temporal prime directive because MUH MORAL RESPONSIBILITY episode
>>63561649
>Admiral Janeway
Good call. Only someone as depraved as Kathryn 'Ted Bundy is my spirit guide' Janeway could authorize the UFP HP Lovecraft
>>63561349
>Androids do NOT have feelings
>I believe in human supremacy, until the androids are designed to a point of sentience
>Flesh and blood NOT circuits and metal-alloy
>>63561754
>I like klingon tea
>>63538463
>ancient barbarian jews
>pharoahwasright.heiroglyph
>90 IPs now that the week is over
Wew. Looks like almost half the trekanons aren't NEETs
>>63552638
>>63536172
who wore it better?
>>63561690
>literally no one died, or would die
>gave plenty of warning
>didn't damage the natural biosphere
>prevented butthurt spoonheads from genociding maquis
>prevented maquis from poisoning every cardie planet in DMZ
>solved diplomatic incident
>captured terrorist leader and WMA's
>Maquis still get net gain of one planet
>>63561543
Not really, the Cardassians and Ferengi were decently depected as having a pretty alien mindset. The Cardassians would have seen it as a extremely fair and logical solution, if anything they would have disappointed that he didn't kill anyone to drive home the message.
Remember that more than anyone else the cardassians are completely at ease with losing people, they shrug off hundreds of thousands of deaths as the cost of war. They only get pissed off when the lives are wasted without gain. If anything they probably implied via their propaganda that Sisko did kill people on both sides to present his actions in a better light to their people.
>>63561643
See above.
>>63561621
I imagine not. The Starfleet people would be OK most of the time but having to listen to the thoughts of a room full of people hanging around a Orion woman or being near a Nausican would be pretty upsetting. Even Lawaxana couldn't tolerate people she liked for too long. No matter how polite they are trying to be that Nausican or Gorn can't help but imagine what your organs taste like and they are visualizing how to open you up quite explicitly. Oh yeah, and that Romulan in the corner is thinking about if you could be vivisected and the telepathic section of your brain used to enhance a mind probe device.
Also your head might explode if you accidentally link to a Tholian or Sheliak's mind.
>>63561891
>muh ending justifying muh means
gtfo nazi
>>63561946
>we should stick to our ideals even with it's retarded and tons of people will die!
Gene, you're a ghost, go away.
>>63561737
Well what do you expect, who else was going to merge the Crystalline entity, i.e the UFP Lovecraft with a Galaxy Class Warship then outfit it with Phase cloaks, Genesis devices, Fluidic space drives and Thalaron warheads?
The ship is an ambassador of peace and by Sloan's ghost it will achieve that goal!
>digest posts
>posts with space between the quoted post and the response
What is happening to /stg/? Where did these people come from?
>>63561021
FACT: Westley is a time traveling Chris Chan, the rainbow shirt is proof.
name my band
>>63562251
Ween
>>63562099
College papers are expected to be written the same way as news articles these days, it is bad formatting to have no space between the quote block and the text.
Same goes for older folks who grew up on UBB forums like the Frontier.org or spacebattles. It is a formatting habit older folks and/or college graduates use. Put down the cellphone and learn how to format IRL kid. :)
>>63562270
>comma splice
stopped reading there
>>63554901
shit I never noticed that
goodeye
>>63562430
Apologizes Professor, i will correct it. I have been so busy with my Natural Science classes that i neglected my writing.
>College papers are expected to be written the same way as news articles these days; it is bad formatting to have no space between the quote block and the text.
There, a semi colon you fascist cunt.
I once spent a $5000 Federal Grant proving that rice could be economically grown in fucking Rhode Island, discovered two new species of invasive crop pests and what did i get? Some fuckhead complaining about using a colon instead of a semi colon.
Forget that i had used a minimal amount of Federal Grant money (i had $15,000 available) to do a test crop to rejuvenate the States agriculture industry, forget that i discovered two invasive pests. No, this fucker wanted to correct a minor spelling error.
Asshats like you are why New England doesn't have a independent rice growing agricultural sector and why invasive crop pests are ignored. Because an entire regions agricultural self sufficiency is less important than a semi colon. By The Gods do i hope Trump is elected so everyone like you can be hanged by their necks until they are dead.
>>63562702
>Apologizes Professor
stopped reading there
>>63562251
Tomboy and the Faggots
Wesley & the Gangbangers
Reckless Faggotry
>>63562718
Oh you are just trying to provoke me now.
>stopped reading there
Learn to use a period and capitalization punk.
>>63562702
>>63562430
stop ruining rode island asshole.
>>63562757
I like trump too, only unironically
>>63562771
>>63562791
Oh feth you guys, imma go watch adventure time.
