This photo is odd, there are the fucking try to triggered nostalgia but I find something odd in it what is it ?
Doesn't look like a star wars movie for me. Design yes, photography no.
none of the photography is star warsy
it's fucking weird, it feels anachronistic in a way
Mon Mothma briefing comes to mind
>>63529399
Too dark
different from the other three star wars directors but not a bad shot desu
>>63529399
>Doesn't look like a star wars movie for me
>>63529399
Trying too hard.
You faggots are mad when it imitates Star Wars and mad when it doesn't. Stop being faggots.
>>63529476
same, it reminded of a breifing
I found the odd thing. The low fi 80's aesthetic is kitch. In Alien it's great and hold but in star Wars it seems comical in a 2015 reboot.
>>63529399
>3PO has a red arm now
What?
>>63529580
It's true that we're unappeasable, but that's the case for everyone. I think a legit concern for this movie and the hordes of all soulless rehashes should be that we liked the old one and we liked it how it was, and if you're bringing it up again it has to be true to the original spirit while also going above and beyond the original, and if you can't do that you just shouldn't fucking touch it or we'll get pissy. You can argue it's not fair to say it, but that won't change anyone's gut reaction, that just is how it is.
>>63529636
Hold.
everything looks like it made from the same damn place
the weathering on the droid is the same as the clothes and same on the computers
>>63529399
the designers and artists working on it are young and don't understand the aesthetic the shits is almost 40 years old. The people living their understood the aesthetic because it was part of the zeitgeist of their time. We can ingest films and art of the era but we can never truly replicate media of a previous time.
>>63529399
Lights, star wars is very bright and sheit, also he photography.
>>63529721
Doesn't hold.
>'scuse me sir is it here the set of Spaceballs 2015 ?
>>63529676
Looks in the spirit of Star Wars to me. I've honestly gotten more joy out of the trailers than I have with recent rewatches of the prequels.
>>63529399
does threepio have a red harm?
>>63529770
There is something else. Star Wars was great because people had never see something like this in the 70's, an incredible well built and design univers. Now it just looked like 80's plastic old shit. I think it's a mistake to capitalized only on nostalgia and doesn't update some elements of the design. It looks like a SNL parody with the olds actors trying to emulate something lost.
>>63529904
I completely agree. Lucas didn't go all nostalgia with the prequals and I respect them more for that. Though their designs are dated now that is inevitable. These new movies are by design dated in this new modern wink wink self aware fashion that is emotionally and artistically void.
>>63529840
> rewatched the prequals
> tried with all your might to hate all of it
> never smile at jar jars antics
> disregaurd the strangeness behind Kamino and the clones
> feel nothing as you watch as Anakin loses faith and becomes a fallen angel
> Avoid the shivers down your spine as Sheev gains the high ground
>>63529461
>none of the photography is star warsy
>it's fucking weird, it feels anachronistic in a way
Yes, it doesn't hold.
The prequels were shit but the univers build around them was coherent, the design didn't feel old or comical in the 2000's.
>>63529840
If you get enjoyment out of anything Star Wars you are a manchild.
>>63529399
I really worry about this movie. I want it to be good, I love Star Wars and everything, but I'm almost 100% certain it is going to just be a "Hey remember the old trilogy?" wankfest. You guys know what I mean? It'll concentrate too much on being Star Wars, and not enough on just being a good movie.
Seriously this shit. Just a high budget polished fanfiction movie. There are nothing new because they fear to triggered the hardcore vocal internet fan. But it looks just outdatted to the 99,9% of the public.
Wtf JJ.
>>63530142
To be fair this is from some shitty commercial. Or is it actually footage from the movie put into the commercial?
Because if it isn't just for the commercial, its not very good. I mean I know this is what, a 10 second clip of footage, but even in that 10 seconds you can see how badly this movie wants you to remember the original trilogy.
>If it was a high budget 80's Power Ranger reboot, everyone would mock this.
>>63529399
Its because they're all standing round that octagonal table from ep 6 and ep3, and you remember that bit from the plinkett reviews.you didn't notice it but your brain did
>>63529636
It is pretty hilarious at the time they were aiming for as futuristic as possible but now technology has moved so far foward it seems backwards.
>>63530277
Power Rangers started in the 90's.
Because its a new director, fucking idiot
>>63530142
It's literally a disney sequel. Remember the last good disney sequel?
Neither do I.
>>63530142
why don't the storm troopers hide behind cover?
Will you contrarian faggots shut the fuck up? Aesthetics is the one thing JJ actually has gotten right with this movie. I can't believe I'm seeing people actually complementing George on prequel design just because it looked different than the original trilogy. Fucking Christ, different does not necessarily mean better. Almost everything in the prequels looked completely sterile and dead, especially since every set was basically a green screen with maybe two or three physical props in the shot. At least the shots we've seen from Episode 7 look gritty and have some life to them, and I think that Star Wars "feel" has been captured to an extent. Just because the designs aren't completely original means they're uninspired.
>>63530588
>Aesthetics is the one thing JJ actually has gotten right with this movie.
This movie looks almost nothing like Star Wars. Without the Falcon, lightsabers and other "icons," it would be hardly recognisable.
>>63530588
you would have said the very same thing about TPM's trailer 15 years ago... fucking pleb
>>63530792
No, it looks like Star Wars.
>>63530844
A skilled refutation.
>>63530588
Aesthetics? you mean recycling McQuarrie's design with fucking lens flare and videogame camera moves? nothing in there is original
>>63530830
Well the trailer looked quite a bit different than the actual film, but talking from a purely aesthetic point of view TPM is not the prequel that looks like every set takes place in a computer generated clean room. Attack of the Clones is the real offender here, Revenge of the Sith to a lesser extent. Keep in mind I did not say TPM was a good movie, nor did I say Force Awakens will be a good movie. I just said both "look" like Star Wars movies, for the most part.
>>63530142
On the plus side, their armor is working this time.
Its J.J.s shit directing and photography being shit
Star Wars uses the classical photography of David Lean, Akira Kurosawa, John Ford, Howard Hawks
Not the music video tv commercial shit of today
Now Abrams too dark lense flair shit
>>63530588
This is literally the best shot in episode III. I can't find a bigger image though. This 30 seconds in the Tantive IV was better than the whole movie.
>>63530142
What exactly is the problem with this scene?
>>63529721
them mechanical keyboards
>>63530893
fucking hell man, you need to wake up and realize that cg integration from 15 years ago isn't equal to aesthetics to begin with. That it's dated no one will argue with you, but when you come here to tell us that JJ's aesthetics are superior just based on the trailer alone this is a whole different thing man.
So far all we've seen is rehash of old concept arts, recycling of the very same 40 years old ingredients mixed with useless pseudo modern camera moves...
Death star v2.0? check
Tatooine v2.0? check
Masked bad guy with a weird voice v2.0? check
Trench run v2.0? check
Stormtroopers shooting in a spaceship corridor v2.0? check
SO FUCKING ORIGINAL!! BASED JJ! PRAISE JJ!
>>63530942
So much this. This anon gets it
>>63529636
>>63530357
The thing is, when I see some holographic touch screen in a sci-fi movie it just feels cheap. If they use normal touch screens that we have today it feels lazy. And shit like this >>63529721 is just plain retarded. I don't even know myself what kind of technology I want to see in sci-fi movies.
>Tie fighter scene
>>63530888
>>63530861
>>63530792
Jesus you people are ridiculous. I say I like the look of the new star wars movie, and you jump on me like some angry autistic /v/irgin who just heard someone say they enjoyed the new Battlefront game. I did not say the movie will have a good plot, I did not say the movie and it's plot looked amazingly original, I did not say I was looking forward to "Fookin Chavs in Fookin Quad Jumpas" starring Daisy Ridley, I did not say the movie will even be good. I said I liked how it looked. Jesus, you people are worse than /v/ and /a/ combined.
>>63531185
>it ain't sheev starts playing
>>63531101
This is exactly the problem I have with every information that has been revealed on TFA
It looks so derivative and it's all "scientifically" designed by a committee to build on the nostalgia and pop-culture reference to make everyone feel smart and included to the star wars fandom (which is a very stupid fandom to begin with). Just like the Star Trek rebboot
You can say that George went too far in a few places in PT, that even OT had many instances of bad dialogue and story, but at least he wasn't derivative and he tried new things
I'll take a bad movie that tried something new and risky than a mediocre and forgettable movie like TFA is shaping up to be
>>63531185
>>63531210
>this meme finally works
>>63531198
Uh, all I did was say "no, it doesn't." But OK.
>>63531280
Ok anon, excluding you. Apologies family,
![DeathStar_plans[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/3dRQIOu.jpg "DeathStar_plans[1].png")
>>63531138
>>63530942
yep. for example in the OP shot the camera is too close, because JJ wanted to completely fill the shot up without worrying about adding more to use the edges. they didn't plan the shoot around the desired emotional tone, it's just the actors they had on the set they had on the day. Inevitable given the complete lack of prep time for this film.
compare and contrast with New Hope shot
>>63531222
>You can say that George went too far in a few places in PT, that even OT had many instances of bad dialogue and story, but at least he wasn't derivative and he tried new things
Agreed. Sure, the prequels were all over the place in terms of content and delivery, but at least Lucas tried his best to add new depth to the series (even though he ulitmatley failed).
I really hope everyone starts to appreciate George again, after everyone realises how nostalgic-pandering and rehashed this Abrams envisioned Star Wars is.
>>63530142
notice how the camera just floats left and right and snap zooms on action
i hate it. its typical jj "invisible found footage" for realism bullshit.
>>63529399
I want to say it's the lighting. It's too cinematic and stylized.
The OT and PT had very flat lighting.
>>63529399
In the classic trilogy there aren't many times there's a shot like this with the central character completely dark and counter-lit. Actually I think the only one is when Luke burns Vader's corpse. Maybe the Duel in the carbon freeze chamber in epV, but that's pretty much it. Lucas knew very well what he was doing in these shots and the symbolic weight they had.
This new shot here does looks like a typical casino shot indeed, completely random and without any semantic whatsoever. It wants to be cool, but has no substance. It's Leia in the center, so why is she in the dark? As usual with JJ: no finesse whatsoever.
I was looking for set photos, did Amiral Ackbar try to pick up girls ?
>>63531349
That's great use of one-point perspective.
JJ's looks just like every other capeshit film released in the last 5 years.
>>63531483
it doesnt feel real or involving, i feel immediately detached from the action when i see that marvel tier camerawork
Its a call back to the Yavin war room except shot from a different angle. Threepio is standing on Leia's right, just like in a New Hope. Only difference is the inclusion of most definitely Ackbar and Solo.
I think one reason why it looks odd is the rebel outfits, they're trying to fit with the 70s aesthetic but it doesnt quite work, looks like they're dressed for a pantomime.
Star Wars owes a lot of its style to that of the original two films. And that's partly how they are very 70s and 80s. The prequels didn't really get the aesthetic right because everything looked sleek and modern.
The new film is not going to perfectly capture the original trilogy's feel, I think in general it'll look ok. I'm betting the Imperial or whatever they are sets will be pretty much spot on, everything else will look shitty in comparison.
>>63531458
no way man. he's fucked up too many times, too consistently to ever be redeemed. he's and insecure child.
after jedi, he hid in his mansion for years and completely fell out of touch with culture.
>>63531507
>that picture
kek
>>63529399
Damn, this really really looks straight outta an MCU movie.
Damn shame.
>>63529399
I don't see what's so wrong with this shot in particular. It's actually one of the few shots that looks the most Star Wars to me.
>>63531349
Its so dense, theres just so much going on
>>63531510
>That's great use of one-point perspective.
exactly. and it has to have been conceived BEFORE filming so they could design the prop, frame and block everything.
honestly the OP pic looks like a TV show shoot with a slightly more expensive set and costumes.
Looks like a cheap TV show imo
The Rouge production shot looked much better and that was just the cast reveal
>>63530588
Im with dubsguy
at least ackbar is back
>>63531198
You know this actually a very well argumented thread by /tv/'s standards. Just saying.
>>63530951
the best shot in my opinion of the prequels was when both padme and anakin stare at the jedi temple in the sunset. its a beautiful scene that and its the only shot where portman doesnt look off
some might say there was also symbolism in there as in the jedi is what stands between them
As long as we're talking about aesthetics, which Star Wars movie do you guys think is the best, based on visuals alone?
I'm tempted to say Empire, but Return of the Jedi also had Jabba's Palace, night-time Endor, and the entirety of the throne room scene, which all look fantastic.
>>63531575
Yeah I rewatch the trailer all the close dialogues have a sitcom's feel
>>63529399
Is that Donald Sutherland?
>>63531622
Did you sneak that Shia in, anon?
>>63530142
Is that CGI?
>>63531682yes
It's basically reddit aesthetics. Gay
I saw an article saying that Abrams took some inspiration from Terrence Malick when making the new Star Wars movie.
My first thought when hearing that was that even though it could mean some interesting cinematography, it doesn't sound like it would lend itself well to the style of Star Wars.
>>63531664
I prefer Empire because of the Hoth Base, Dagobah, Vaders Chamber at the Star Destroyer, Falcon Insides, Bespin Outside/Inside/Processing Plants etc
>>63531528
>fell out of touch with culture
Pandering to the nostalgia of the OT, the constant references to SW shoved in everywhere is not culture worth saving
The original SW was unlike anything back in the day. George tried to take PT in new places and drag the fans along kicking and screaming. Sure he largely failed but think how many creative risks he took - digital actors, heavy cgi compositing unlike anything seen at the day, a story based on political manipulation, commerce treaties, blurring the line between good and evil and showing the Jedi were not incorruptible and infallible as the OT implied and that the Republic was corrupted and was not working for the interest of the people
Have fun watching the zero-risk, derivative TFA built to take advantage of the internet and social-media fuelled nostalgia on a 40 year old groundbreaking film
>>63531664
The throne room duel is nuts visually. 3 black characters against a black backdrop. This is completely the opposite of how it's supposed to be done, and yet it just works.
>>63531766
>>63531149
JJ don't have to go full prequels but he could extend the design of the OT and not just replicate it like a cheap fuck.
Aesthetics = interesting, clean designs that call back to McQuarrie's original art.
JJ's direction (based on what we've seen so far) = current Hollywood trends, dark, flat framing, a lot of close ups of faces to establish connection
Best case - Star Trek 2009
Worst case - Star Trek Into Darkness
I'm not loving these odds, gentlemen...
>>63531349
>that laundry machine ducting running down the right hand side to make the room look futuristic
All sci-fi films are inherently silly I think you guys need to just chill out a bit. For every bad prequel design choice you can find a good one, for every good OT design choice you can find obvious dryer ducting or stupid shit. Episode VII has to look at least a little like the OT because it's what the majority of people want to see, more star wars like they remember it.
Also if you like KOTOR at all you have to admit that technology in the star wars universe never fucking changes even over thousands of years you still have astromech droids, you still have light sabers, you still have star destroyers and falcon-esque little freighters with chunky control panels and random pointless blinking lights. It's all part of the general aesthetic so who cares.
>>63531778
wow he really improves anything he in
>>63531712
>I saw an article saying that Abrams took some inspiration from Terrence Malick when making the new Star Wars movie.
Sure JJ would say this, to try and make himself look more 'artistic.'
Unless he has a 20 minute scene comprised of nothing but Luke walking through long bushy grass, he can fuck right off with his bullshit.the captcha was literally pictures of grass
>>63531760
That's a bingo, right there.
Simon Pegg and Felicia Day are your gods now.
>>63531803
Yeah i'm pessimist too JJ makes great entertaining movies you forget one week after seen them.
He is like creating the ultimate fast food material tailor made for the retards fandom we all are. Average, easy to digest but you are hungry 3h after eating it.
>>63531818
I think you're missing the point.
Obviously sets are made out of IRL materials and sometimes it's going to be obvious on close examination where something came from. That's not relevant to whether the aesthetics work or not imho. You could argue it starts with the script as that's what determines the emotional context for shots and whether we give a fuck about what's happening in the first place.
>>63531842
>Unless he has a 20 minute scene comprised of nothing but Luke walking through long bushy grass, he can fuck right off with his bullshit.
>>63531458
>I really hope everyone starts to appreciate George again
I was starting to until I read "How Star Wars Conquered the Universe" which is just a phenomenal book and gives people probably the best look at the making of the star wars films and at LucasFilm and Lucas in general. Lucas is a genius, he's wealthy beyond imagination, and he changed all of hollywood and all of pop culture forever. But he is an intensely bitter, purposefully spiteful, paranoid, and delusional man who hates his creations and has a massive inferiority complex.
The behind the scenes of writing the prequels will make you madder than hell because he started with some pretty good ideas, but eventually threw them out or butchered them for selfish stupid reasons.
He is a legendary guy and again a genius at some things, but don't be so quick to place the man on a pedestal.
>>63530277
This is my boom stick!
>>63531916
>But he is an intensely bitter, purposefully spiteful, paranoid, and delusional man who hates his creations and has a massive inferiority complex.
Well, he probably associates SW to the events that led to his divorce, I can't really blame him
>>63531760
>George tried to take PT in new places
He tried to take star wars into modern political bullshit and abandoned the classical myth and hero's journey structure of the original films to do something even lazier. Nute Gunnray = Newt Gingrich who was a giant figure in the global trade bickering of the mid 90's during the clinton administration. Palpatine's Republic was based almost entirely around the Bush white house and it's ever increasing disrespect for people's personal liberties and warmongering in the middle-east with rampant militarism, etc... Anakin's whole "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy" was Bush's line to the United Nations "if you're not with us, then you're with the terrorists".
The prequels were exceptionally lazy shitty films and people are crawling out of their own butts to defend them because they don't know what they're talking about and just want to hassle the equally annoying Ep. VII shills.
>>63531505
I think that's the thing, because Star Wars doesn't need to be stylised. In fact it needs flat, unobtrusive lighting in order to make it seem real, as a counter balanc to the more other worldly, unique elements (eg. Costumes, creatures, designs). When it's stylised, it just feels like a music video and never really gets that authenticity
>>63531916
I'm just wondering if he is not just an socialy akward filmaker with autism. George Lucas did well with the OT, but the (relatively) deepness of the movies come from all the épisode V father-son's shit. The yoda scene (on dagoba, weel the big jungle) too.
He always ignored the fact that a whole alternative culture (well it's not alternative anymore, even my gf think she is a nerd because she is hyping for the new movie) was build around by young adults. Star Wars is for 10/13 years olds and it's about family. Wrong after the OT, it was for 15-25yo that's why the tone of the prequels were so out of place.
Now that been said i'm hoping JJ doesn't makes a movie only for 25/40 fat neckbeards with plastic lightsabers with edgy dark scenes and dialogues like a TDK movie, it would be a mistake too.
>>63531664
ROTJ has a lot of shit in it though. They have scenes where Vader's helmet is reflecting a lot of light, which was something they avoided before and they have that one scene where Lando and Han are talking infront of a matte painting of the millenium falcon which looks about as realistic as a green screen.
I think there is a big dip in quality of cinematography and visuals from Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi.
>>63531880
Right, my greater point is that people want their star wars to look like star wars. They don't really care about the aesthetic insomuch as they don't require it to change because they are more interested in the character interactions and the story being told.
People are going to be far more interested in what the characters are doing inside of a star destroyer, rather than obsess over if the interior of the star destroyer is adequately different and interesting looking compared to how it used to look.
I think the reason why people focus so much on the look of the prequels is that the story, characters, and acting are so bad that the design elements actually garner more attention. I mean in the battle of Courscant where thousands of ships are shooting at each other for w/e reason we don't really know or care, so instead we pick apart the visuals because watching anakin and obi-wan fight goofy buzz-droids isn't compelling.
>>63531916
>don't be so quick to place the man on a pedestal
Yet you have already placed SW on a pedestal when SW creator and everyone involved admit (when they are honest and are not bound by contracts) that the crazy hype and obsession around anything SW is not justified
George feels like Viktor in S1m0ne. He created something that people loved. He knew his creation had problems but people wanted more of the same. He tried to change things but they kept on buying anything related and they wanted even less originality. He tried to destroy his creation, to free the drones from this obsession but he couldn't, SW is destined to drown the world in a flood of references and unjustified nostalgia
>>63529399
>c3po has a new arm
ITS LIKE POTTERY
WHAT THE FUCK IS IT WITH STAR WARS AND ARMS
WTF
>>63531916
I dunno, Lucas just seems like such a tragic figure to me.
He started out being so weirdly-creative, and almost avant-garde in a way. THX1138 and even the structuring of American Graffiti was so unique for the time period and are really important films in the New Hollywood period.
I think in a way though, the success of the OT corrupted him beyond belief. He lost his inclination for artistic and creative endeavors and instead only saw dollar signs in everything.
He ended up with too much power at the end of the day, and the world just wasn't ready for his shit.
>>63532046
Speilberg was always able to get that balance right. You make your movie for adults, but leave room for children to enjoy it by not making it obscene, gruesome, or otherwise off putting. It will appeal to adults, and children will love it too, Jurassic Park being a good example. It isn't a children's movie but kids love it. Ghostbusters as well is another example.
If you make a movie for children only children are going to really enjoy it for the most part.
HAHAHA OP is such pleb. He thinks that all three director has the same photography style. JJ is making it his own like all the other directors did.
>>63532140
Yeah Spielberg was so on another level, i'm sad he doesn't make great aventures movies anymore. Lucas must be jealous of his friend.
>>63532174
I mean, it's 2015 people!
>>63532174
His movies are always a tasteless directing style. A praised Michael Bay.
>>63532117
If you read the book George did very little to "change" Star Wars after the original trilogy. The special editions were testing grounds for him to work out CGI for the prequels, the prequels themselves are stuffed to the brim with nostalgic call-backs to the original films, and Darth Vader only became the focus of the entire six movie saga after he helped co-write ESB because the father-son corruption-redemption storyline was finally worked out.
Episode VII is going to try really damn hard to reference the original films, going so far as to cast all the same actors as their original roles to maintain continuity, but you have to remember that Lucas is the one that originally contacted all those actors and signed them on for more movies, not Disney, not Abrams. His third trilogy would likely have been just as chocked full of references and unjustified nostalgia.
If anything we got a side-grade. Lucas has weird fucking ideas that wouldn't go in the Disney playbook of otherwise safe choices, but he is a honest to god shitty Director these days. So you can have an awful weird star wars movie, or a well made safe star wars movie. To get the best of both worlds you'd need a David Lynch or a Fincher or something and give them total control.
>>63532234
Pain&Gain had better cinematography than anything JJA ever put out
>>63532136
This is so true
It's hip nowdays to say that George is hack but George is (was?) an amazing auteur and has (had?) so much untapped potential
>American Graffiti
The archetypal youth nostalgia film, a film so tasteful it's a shame people are not recognising more
>THX1138
Futuristic dystopia science fiction, iconic cinematography, an elegy on humanity, free will and the purpose of life. Still among the greatest films in this genre
>Star Wars
A space fairy tale that broke new ground in story telling, world building, cinematography, visual effects. A unique achievement in film making
Not to mention his involvement in the Indiana Jones films (I'm sure he is the creative force behind these films) or how he revolutionized visual effects and compositing techniques with ILM and it's spin-off Pixar, new technologies in sound design etc
>>63532234
You guys are really on the ropes to compare him to Michael Bay.
>>63532250
Maybe Disney played it safe with JJ to have solid fondations and they are gonna hired a Lynch for the 8. Would be great but I think i'm being delusionnal
>all those fucking dolly shots in the trailers
jesus fucking christ the camera zooms up to characters every time they are moving
>>63532136
The original Star Wars shoot destroyed him. The film that we got on screen is not the film that was playing in his head and he hates it. There is more of his ex-Wife, the editing team, his friends that re-wrote his 3rd draft that put in all of the now famous dialogue, and the ILM effects that weren't what he envisioned at all up there and people -adore it-.
It's tragic in a way, but instead of learning from that collaboration and moving forward in a positive way he eventually turned into a bitter old asshole who wants full control over everything and churned out three of the most hated films of all time that also made him a billionaire. His whole life is a series of mixed signals, sadly he just choose wrong almost every time.
>>63532136
There is a whole business side to Lucas that is astonishing though. The man created modern movie marketing all by himself. Fox still remembers to this day the colossal mountain of money they lost on ep IV merchandising. He always kept a violently independent approach to anything he was involved in financially and distanced himself from the studios as soon as as he was able to.
And last but not least he pushed incredibly hard to update the technology of the whole movie industry. Digital editing, pixar, THX, ILM, Skywalker sound, digital cameras, the list goes on...no one has ever pushed the technology as he did.
Is there a video on YouTube who analyse and explain why JJ's style work well on a screen ?
I think I saw something with Michael Bay, it was great.
>>63532299
>Hey you guys, the next one will be great, they are just doing this to make money to fund the next one which will be awesome and original
>>63532355
I mean is there a more reliable director praised by the critics and the nerds who can deliver a safe product ? I don't think so.
>>63532299
Hiring JJ Abrams and doing a very nostalgic first movie to restart an otherwise pretty dead star wars saga is a brilliant business decision and is the safest and smarest way they could go about doing this.
They can afford to have the anthology films being weird and try new things. VII, VIII, and IX to an extent have to play it pretty safe because they have to convince a whole new generation of people, and the bitter older generations that star wars is back, it's just like they remembered it, and it's fun again. JJ is going to make a painfully safe and by the numbers movie, but that's what the saga needs right now. They really can't risk having more memes about sand and high ground.
>>63532346
Lucas is a genius, he just isn't a film-making genius.
>>63529793
I think this is a big part of it.
Lighting wasn't as fancy in Star Wars. Empire and Jedi played around with darkness more, but in general lighting was more simple: just aim a few very bright, hard lights at the scene.
OP's screenshot is just a different style.
>>63532346
This
George Lucas was always a revolutionary who tried new things and he never bowed down to the hollywood system
But people attack him constantly and unjustifiably and are happy that the biggest movie studio bought SW and will bring out more SW movies with zero creativity and new ideas in the span of 10 years than have come out in 40 years
It really is sad seeing how it is so easy with big money, heavy marketing and bellow the line advertising to play the world like a fiddle and manipulate them
>>63532404
Yeah it's pretty smart, I hope they don't get stuck for the 8 & 9 with the nostalgia and create new things in the univers. Just for a marketing point of views and the gold mine who is merchandising it would make sense too. Maybe the futur will be ok after all.
>>63532346
>And last but not least he pushed incredibly hard to update the technology of the whole movie industry. Digital editing, pixar, THX, ILM, Skywalker sound, digital cameras, the list goes on...no one has ever pushed the technology as he did.
Yeah, this is something Lucas really doesn't get the justified credit for. I mean, sure, the technology would've most likely come around eventually (like non-linear editing), but he really pioneered and pushed most of that stuff to become the new standard.
Apart from the Dogme 95 guys filming on digital, Lucas was the first one to really do a feature length digital film within the Hollywood system with Phantom Menace. I remember watching in the documentary Side by Side how everyone within the industry basically told him he was crazy and digital would never take off too. Now look at the industry.
Lucas kinda made all the tools we have today available to filmmakers, I guess it's just kinda sad to see what most people are doing with those tools, especially when it comes to CGI.
Call him what you will, but Lucas is one hell of a smart son of a bitch, especially when it comes to business and technology.
>>63532350
There's some stuff online but nothing like the video you're describing which I've seen.
JJ is a very competent director and his key strength is working with actors, not so much shot composition (lens flares). If you were to do one of those RPG style stat rankings for JJ Abrams as a director he'd have high marks in working with actors, medium marks in blocking, medium to high marks for camera placement and scene comp, low marks for lighting, and medium marks for editing.
He is far from being a bad director, and I wouldn't even consider him a medicore rent-a-director like the people they get to make shit like "Snow White & The Huntsmen" or "Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter". He's a solid choice, just not an inspired one. It's like if you had someone right between Steven Spielberg and Colin Trevarrow.
>>63532397
thats the point though, safe doesnt mean fun. safe is lame and id rather see a director try something new and different than rehash what people like, too many times (especially with Star Wars) we see reused shit. TOR was all reused clone wars shit, TFA is all reused OT shit. nothing JJ will do will be groundbreaking, star wars from the inception was groundbreaking, the Monomyth in a sci-fantasy genre. it was great, it captured imaginations. this new star wars will suck, it might be a good movie, but it will suck. the casting sucks, the director sucks, the plot sucks. star wars should have died with the OT
>>63529399
it looks like behind the scenes crap. All the main actors have their backs turned. that's why.
>>63532404
>brilliant business decision
And why should I support them?
This is not art, this is just a money making scheme and I will not become a part of it
>>63530142
Everything looks fine to me, except it's a bit too dark and I don't like the camera work. I hate snap zooms. I can't remember any zoom shots in Episodes 1-6, yet in the Episode 7 promos we have seen several already.
Also there was only one lens flare in the original trilogy.
>>63532475
I think Rogue One will be pretty damn neat, I'm worried about a Han Solo movie, it sounds really pointless and it's another prequel, but I'd love to see a new Anthology film, or hell even a Star Wars live action Netflix series would be neat.
>>63529636
You're wrong, you nigger. The only thing this movie has is the accurate recreation of the original movies aesthetics.
Photography looks off, and story will be a shitty "95 minutes of running like crazy and jumping from chase scene to chase scene", just like the Star Trek movies were.
>>63532548
Star Wars isn't art, it's the rosetta stone of modern "Movies as mass-market entertainment product". If you enjoy the Star Wars product and are invested in the characters and the stories being told you'll support them. If you don't then you wont, just like any other entertainment product out there.
Please don't delude yourself into thinking that Star Wars was ever anything but a money making machine. At best it was a fun call-back to flash gordon serials, but that was a calculated choice because those serials were popular, and fun, and made money back in the day. Just because it's the mouse house making all the money now instead of an eccentric billionaire doesn't somehow change the formula.
>>63531101
In fairness, George tried to do something new and everyone hated it. JJ is scared and is playing it ultra-safe. People might not like that either.
In many ways the Star Wars Trilogy was lightning in a bottle and perhaps should have been left alone.
>>63532554
Just so you're aware that's a Verizon commercial. Still for a commercial it isn't half bad.
>>63529399
>>63532646
I'd agree if Empire hadn't been so damn good. There is room in Star Wars to do great new things within the spirit of what is old, sadly we just haven't seen anyone do that in quite some time, and as much as I think Episode VII is a good idea, I don't see it being a mindblowing movie, just a pretty good one that will make a shitload of money to hopefully fund a mindblowing one in the future.
>>63532634
*tips*
The Originsl Star Wars was the best representation of the hero's journey of all time.
>>63532554
>I can't remember any zoom shots in Episodes 1-6
there were a few in ep 2 (geonosis battle) and 3 (coruscant space battle), but during that time it was more experimental than a trademark. Hell the whole prequels were one big technical experiment really.
NEW TRAILER
NEW TRAILER
GET HYPE
>>63532633
>>63532666
Except everyone has their backs turned and they are in a U shaped formation and the lighting, colors and poses are completely different. Nice try Satan
>>63532692
That doesn't refute anything that I just said. You can have a profitable heroes journey story that is packaged and sold for the sole purpose of making money.
>>63532694
This
George poineered snap-zooms in blockbusters with the geonosis shots.
Unlike most meme zooms today, he used them in interesting ways- like when the laser turrets were taking down one of trade federation ships, it snap zooms into the bridge/control deck of the clone turrets.
I always loved that shot.
>>63532731
ok bud
>>63532537
same guy. There's also a disconnect you don't have a focus because so many backs are turned the OG pic somewhere above you are part of the crowd looking at the screen and listening the the briefing, this is just crap until the whole shot is shown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGyaR2sSBkA
REALER
THAN
REAL
LIFE
>>63532837
shill fuck off
>>63532779
>Camera slowly zooms towards their backs
>Camera cuts to the middle of the table pointing to Leia
>Camera spins furiously around zooming, cutting to the opposite size, repeat, Michel Bay style
>Furious talking, had waving and finger pointing
>Han as he point his finger angrily to Leia: This is suicide
>Ackbar: It's a trap
>Leia: It's our only hope
>>63532837
>enhanced contrast means real life
You should go outside for once.
>>63532326
But according to everyone involved, his original story ideas and original edit were shit.
George just hates the idea of collaboration, but his filmography proves he needs it.
>>63532876
dude weed
>blue and orange
>>63532634
All film is about making money. Star Wars is just honest about it.
>>63532956
pleb alert
>>63532988
>people make films for themselves, not for other people to watch
>>63530501
>sassy as fuck
I lov you
>>63531679
>Donald Sutherland as aged Kyle Katarn
>>63532837
Damn this looks good!
I admit, if it wasn't DLC - The Game, hadn't so much focus on multiplayer and had a single player story mode in the style of Half-Life 2 I would buy it
>>63533052
>If it was a complete different game I would buy it
Well no shit.
>EVERYTHING HAS TO LOOK JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY, THIS DOESNT LOOK STAR WARSY
>WAAHH EVERYTHNG LOOKS LIKE THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY, JJ ABRAMS IS JUST DOING NOSTALGIA FAN SERVICE CRAP, I HATE THIS!
>yfw you realise this is JJ's Enterprise bridge
Trekkies got fucked so hard for JJ's Star Wars dry run, lol.
>>63533075
Why did you put Tarful in that shot?
>>63533093
Not my edit, I just googled RotJ briefing and someone added more Wookies.
>pretending to be retarded enough to believe that hollywood has ever made any "art"
hehe what a wacky meme
>>63533075
fun fact: the round screens on the top are positioned perpendicularly to accommodate Mon Calamari's eyesight. It is after all a Mon Cal spaceship.
>>63529676
No, you literally just sound like you have a broomstick stuck up your ass and you're trying to walk down the street with it sticking out.
It's just a movie.
It looks better than any Star Wars movie we've gotten in 3 decades. The whole planet is going to see this planet.
Only the absolutely unappeasable neckbeards have to ramble on about every single casting decision, every little bit of set design and photography while the rest of the world just wants to see
XWINGS
BLASTERS
LIGHTSABERS
WOOKIES
STAR DESTROYERS
DUDES WITH MASKS
does any of this shit excite you? no? then why the fuck did you even watch Star Wars to begin with?
>>63533179
when George first did it yes. rejected concept art that's not even good, no.
>>63529580
>>63533074
You guys are mistaking style and story.
This movie should feel like a Star Wars movie but it should be a new story, not remake.
>>63533179
>>Wookiees and lightsabers = Star Wars!
You are the worst kind of Star Wars "fan."
>>63533353
>style should not change in a universe after 30 years
So you watch a movie set in 2015 and get mad when the style doesnt look like 1985???
>>63533179
lol caps rage. you hate criticism even very well argumented ones like in this thread don't you my young friend? it feels uncomfortable I know. It's just a movie sure, however for many of us it definitely does not looks better than any of the previously released episodes. X wings and masked villains aren't that exciting after 3 decades you know. Man up and deal with it.
>>63533179
normalfag
>>63529399
needs more orange and teal
>>63529399
the main characters in the og star wars films always sticked out
here they went too much into detail with every background actor
>>63530393
Super Sentai shows started in the 60s. Checkmate, Star Wars
>>63529399
Is that Billie Lourd on the left?
>>63533496
>>63529399
Is that fucking Donald Sutherland beside Harrison Ford there?
At this point what's even TFA story supposed to be about?
Star Wars (The first film): Hero's Journey, how regular people rise to fight and win against an evil empire. How their greatest opponent is an evil dark wizard and how the hero defeats the dark wizard under the guidance of the wise-old-sage while also using space-swords and the Force
Star Wars IV-VI: How the rebels win against all odds, defeat the powerful evil Empire and restore balance and justice in the Universe. Also how their biggest evil adversary turns good at the end and he helps them to win against the Empire. Also more space-swords and more Force
Star Wars I-III: How democracy and a corrupted republic can be manipulated to become a tyranny. Also how Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader
Star Wars I-VI: The tragedy of Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker. How the chosen one t bring balance to the Force fell to the dark side, causing great chaos but in the end along his son he brought balance to the Force and destroyed the Dark Side Lord
The Star Wars universe seems creatively dead to me. All stories worth telling have already been told. What other stories can be told? How TFA cannot be just a money grab?
>/tv/ hates JJ so much they've started defending George's direction
Can't wait until Ep8, you fucks will be praising JJ and hailing George as a god, while shitting on Rian Johnson
I want to make my own Star Wars trilogy and try to do something different, not the rebels vs. empire format. As bad as the prequels are, at least they tried a new sort of situation I guess. Although I can't really remember what it was. I want to do one where there is at least 3 big factions or something. One of them called the Cult of the Sith or something that go around sniffing out force-sensitive people to recruit and they worship Sith relics or something goofy. Also some huge ancient bats that can be commanded by Sith or something and one of the kids gets trained by a force ghost that turns out to be a Sith secretly grooming them
thanks for reading my blog :3
>Donald Sutherland
>young strong female main
>male "sidekek"
>We want the Hunger Games audience confirmed
I fucking hate Disney and JJ.
>>63533450
It worked so well with the prequels, right?
>the current year
Not everything should be shaky cams and grimdark because "it's 2015, people".
>>63533685
There's barely any shakycam in the trailers
>>63533048
FUND IT
>>63533626
I fully expect /tv/ to praise Rogue One first and foremost. This new trilogy is doomed regardless, in a week the Internet will birth kilometres of criticism against JJ on a daily basis for years to come. There is no stopping this hate machine.
>>63530142
Call me whatever but I actually like the fact that the stormtrooper stands up again.
It's like his armor is actually worth something and actually shields him against laser shots.
Also notice how he's clearly shaken, just as if he had been shot with a bullet and had a bullet proof vest.
I wish there was a black burned stain in his chest though.
And I still dont like the fact that they dont take cover
>>63533605
Better.
>>63533074
I was going to post exactly that.
Thank you, senpai.
>>63529399
Is c3po big boss?
>>63533702
Shaky cams, grimdark style, lens flares, Dutch angles, color filters,... whatever is popular at the moment and directors can't stop using.
>>63533179
100% accurate.
Get rekt, fuckers.
>>63533626
>>/tv/ hates JJ so much they've started defending George's direction
/tv/ is not one person
Also /tv/ never hated George, sure we criticized some of his choices but as a director and a creator he is in a completely different league compared to JJ and Disney
Hating George for not pandering to the autistic OT worshippers who want want a rehash because this is the cool thing at certain internet "communities" is a reddit tier point of view
did an rework
what ya think?
>>63533622
How the fuck can your imagination be so stumped that you cannot see any other story worth telling? Holy fuck, you can't be serious about it, there are an uncountless amount of stories worth telling, it's just that maybe you can't grow out of the archetypical Hero's Journey power fantasy...
>>63533928
This is actually it.
The film doesnt have the old reel grit the OT had.
If they went this way everything would look more star warsy
>>63533635
3 Sith factions?
So edgy
>>63533179
>dude just have fun LMAO
>>63533948
what the hell are you going about, he took the girl out.
>>63533953
>3 Sith factions?
no
>>63533955
>dude nitpicking trivial shit in pleb movies LMAO
>>63533982
I actualy also added an noise filter and corrected the colours
>>63533353
How is it a remake?
Yes, there are similar elements. Yes, there's pottery.
Who in A New Hope abandoned their post?
Did Luke live in fear of dying of thirst, or did he farm water and drink blue milk? In A New Hope, where is the protracted village massacre? In A New Hope, do we see the Emperor? In A New Hope, do we meet Yoda? In A New Hope, how many Death Stars are there?
Finn is a brand new character through and through. Poe is a brand new character - he's not a Han Solo, he's more starry eyed than that. BB-8 isn't just an R2D2 remake, he's got more of a self-awareness and is a little manipulative. Star Killer Base isn't just a new Death Star - it's a planet that's been brutalized into a weapon. When do we fly through a Star Destroyer in A New Hope? Kylo Ren is a new character, where was the villain who lived in somebody else's shadow - when have we ever had a villain who was mentally unhinged?
I'm so sick of people calling this a remake because there are superficially similar elements.
>>63533928
Trying to balance JJ's color correcting ain't no easy task.
Why is Billie (young Leia) in the same shot as Old Han?
Leia is in the dark because she's become a somewhat negative character. She's more militaristic, she has no problem sacrificing lives, she's desperate for victories, she's angry. The news she's giving isn't good.
She's going to blow up the Star Killer planet with her Death Star with Rey still on the planet.
>>63534136
she isn't playing young leia apparently.
HE FANALLY DID IT, THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN, HE PUT FLASHBACKS IN STAR WARS HAHAHA JJA'S TIMEY WHIMEY FETISH IS GOING OUT OF HAND MON MOTHMA GONNA FREAK!!!
>>63534158
???
Oh, I thought she confirmed it herself. I guess it was just missdirection. Maybe she's Leia's daughter?
>>63534188
I thought she was the one who denied the young Leia thing.
>>63534128
true true
>>63534202
Idk. Sometimes articles aren't clear on what the person actually said, they report what the person writing the article THINKS the actor said. I read that she confirmed playing young Leia, but I didn't hear her say it herself.
>>63529675
He had a silver leg before. Obviously he lost the original part and they just stuck to him the first matching spare part they could get.
>>63534239
I'm seeing articles that say the exact opposite of each other.
>>63534136
>not using Billie Lourd as the main female character of SW7
>using weirdass Daisy Riddler and her Xenomorhic smile
>using Day Z's bad overacting instead of the cute and funny deadpan delivery of Billie
>>63534098
Calm down JJ. A remake doesn't mean absolutely everything has to be the same. Even if you're trying hard to defend this movie, you can't deny there are a lot of similarities and OT fans pandering. Renaming stuff don't make them different.
>>63533471
why is this picture so adorable?
>>63534326
Because a Soul shines it's brightest just before it is snuffed out of existence.
>>63529399
ITT:
faggots complaining abot form when its gonna background that´s gonna ruin the cashgrabber
>>63531508
kek
>>63534652
IYP
wrat the fruk mang you sure to moty that you guys
>>63531508
>a mon calamari is automatically admiral ackbar
How does it feel to be such a racist?
>>63529399
Looks like Memers of the Galaxy
Is OP's pic a photo from the set on actual scene from one of the trailers? I have not seen this one yet.
>>63531508
How insignificant that girl behind them must feel.
Look at her face.
Her job is to hold an umbrella over an actor and the director and it's not even raining. Hope she gets paid well.
>>63535250
Disregard. I found it.
>>63533075
I am really happy they kept the look and feel of the Mon Cal Crusier's interior.
>>63534227
You should do color grading for JJ. I found the colorful tone way better.
>>63535261
He had to carry his own umbrella back in the day.
>>63529399
its too dark and too serious. It doesn't feel like an adventure movie, like the old ones.
>>63535436
Now I bet he has even an assistant to hold his dick while taking a piss. Actors in the making of telling how hard it was on the set always made me chuckle.
>>63531642
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>>63535478
>you will never hold R2-D2s dick while he's taking a robot piss
>>63535469
We don't know that yet, but it looks like you're right so far.
>>63535261
The look of someone regretting ever pretending they liked Star Wars but it's far too late to stop now
>What am I doing with my life
>I'm almost 30 and my job is to hold an umbrella over a grown man dressed as a gay robot for a childrens film
>In the background a man with a busted vagina for a face is gobbling in a mad up language
>what is life
>>63535261
I think that umbrella is not for the rain, it is probably to block the sun, I am sure it is hot as fuck inside that suit.
>>63532876
It's too likely that this is real.
>>63533156
Fun fact: being aliens that live under water mostly they're not really even equipped with eyes that would see well in other mediums.
>>63532554
>>63530539
>>63530569
>>63530929
>>63531014
>>63531483
>>63531687
It's from a commercial you dumb fucks. It won't even be in the film.
>>63531508
Is JJ wearing clown shoes or is that how all manlets look with regular adult shoes on?
>>63534227
breddy gud
>>63529399
Looks more like Blade Runner than Star Wars
>>63529399
JJ is basically a TV producer.
The shot is like that of a TV show.
>>63535399
>I am really happy they kept the look and feel of the Mon Cal Crusier's interior.
What? That IS a screencap from RotJ, isn't it?
>>63529476
>>63529610
It's a throwback to the war room in ANH, not the Mon Mothma briefing.
>>63536995
beat me to it
the site I was looking for screencaps on wouldn't load up its goddamn thumbnails
>>63529399
Where's Admiral Ackbar ffs.
>>63529399
My first thought was "looks like a disney flick" and then it clicked.
>>63531642
>padme and anakin stare at the jedi temple in the sunset.
>some might say there was also symbolism in there as in the jedi is what stands between them
Except that Anakin is IN the Jedi Temple, you dope.
>>63537086
That's ok anon, your capture is better than mine.
That's a hell of a mustache
