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What books are literally unfilmmable?
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What books are literally unfilmmable?
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>>63493649
Finnegans Wake
Rising Up and Rising Down
Tacitus Logicus Philisophicus
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It would be very difficult and probably turn out very boring or wouldn't be faithful to the source material.
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The Great Gatsby, if the last two attempts are any indication
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Dune.
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explain why for us people who dont read books or that particular book
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>>63493649
I dont even think anyone could make a hardcore gay porno out of this book. Maybe something along the lines of Serbian Film perhaps.
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>>63493718

>He doesn't know of the 3-hour cut
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The missing parts of the epic of gilgamesh
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Also Brave New World
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>>63493726
There's no plot
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Ubik
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>>63493649
I don't buy into Blood Meridian being unfilmable at all. Why do people claim that? I'd like Mel Gibson to try it but considering Scott Rudin owns the rights there's no chance of him directing. Mel is probably creatively burned out too after the last few years. Would be difficult but definitely not impossible IMO.

>>63493708
I watched Far From Men the other day and my mind drifted to the stranger. Wondered if it could be made into a great film. It's not particularly cinematic and very introspective, maybe. But would be difficult.
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>>63493708
Funny, I just finished reading this. Luchino Visconti made a film of it with Marcello Mastroianni, I haven't seen it but it isn't supposed to be very good (apparently its actually TOO faithful to the source material and doesn't get it quite right). I'll still probably see it someday
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Confederacy of Dunces
Gravity's Rainbow
Ulysses
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Most books where style often takes precedence over plot would be unfilmable. They could be filmed, but all of their essentially qualities would be lost (see that adaptation of Ulysses from back in the day, and even that made no sense if you didn't read the book). And Ulysses is pretty tame compared to like Finnegans Wake or House of Leaves.
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American Psycho
Its just too extreme and unnerving for a mainstream audience
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>>63493906
>HoL
This could be done 2bh lad.
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>>63493726

It's not "unfilmable" since it's pretty straight forward but the book is so violent that no studio would ever risk financing it
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>>63493805
>filming an ambush scene where a group of indians attacks wearing flayed human skin and brutally scalps a group of soldiers and then sodomizes them in the dirt
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East of Eden
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>>63493726
It's a meme book.

>>63493649
The Vagina Ass of Lucifer Niggerbastard
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>>63493805
>I don't buy into Blood Meridian being unfilmable at all

holy shit dude, wat
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the fact Slaughterhouse Five had a good movie adaptation makes me say that anything is possible
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>>63493944
Thy all could be filmed, but you'd have to cut a huge amount of content. The mirrored pages? The endless references to made up shit?
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I don' believe that any book is unfilmable. However, kafka on the shore and ubik would be hard to adapt.
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>>63493944
Maybe the Navidson Record by itself, as a cheesy horror story, but certainly not the entire multilayered narrative. Theres too many things at too many times going on to full encompass many vital elements of the entire story in a single movie.
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>>63493955
>OH GOD SUCH A VIOLENT SCENE
Have you ever heard of editing? All you do is mute the colors, have quick jump cuts, don't show a penis and you're good. I've seen more violent stuff on Hannibal. If network TV can get away with it, how can a R-Rated movie not?
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>>63494018
>literally unfilmable
>it could be filmed
The core narrative, with all its unnerving elements and what not is absolutely filmable. You could incorporate the footnotes and sub-subplots somewhat cheesily via narration and flashbacks. It would be a long film, possibly 4+ hours, but it's absolutely doable.
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naked lunch
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house of leaves
codex seraphinianus
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>>63493818
>I haven't seen it but it isn't supposed to be very good (apparently its actually TOO faithful to the source material and doesn't get it quite right)
It's about as direct an adaptation as you can get. I thought Mastroianni was not the best choice for playing Meursault. He's too charismatic and lively and doesn't come across as the bland and stoic Meursault at all, even in the final court/jail scenes. Such a shame really because I was looking forward to how Visconti may have adapted it differently based on how poetic and introspectively slow Death in Venice was. Also a shame that his adaptation only survives on the Internet as a bad recording of an old TV broadcast.
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>>63494109
Anything is filmable if you have no budget limitations and are fine with editing away huge chunks of the original.
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>>63493955
>posts picture of babby
>doesn't talk about the scene where they encounter babbies hanging from tree and with their heads bashed in and their brains strewn all across the ground
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Catcher in the Rye, Not because of material but more because of rights issues.
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>>63494156
say no more fa͏m, I'm on it
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>>63493955
>>63494094
>>63494225
So what, it's only unfilmable because of gore?
That's not a very good reason, unless you want it to be a Hollywood blockbuster.
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>>63493805
>Why do people claim that?


because its literally a fucking meme idiots keep repeating over and over even though they dont even understand why they are saying it.

>>63493649
>>63493987
>>63493955

>That’s all crap. The fact that’s it’s a bleak and bloody story has nothing to do with whether or not you can put it on the screen. That’s not the issue. The issue is it would be very difficult to do and would require someone with a bountiful imagination and a lot of balls. But the payoff could be extraordinary.

http://www.slashfilm.com/cormac-mccarthy-says-blood-meridian-could-have-an-extraordinary-payoff-on-film/
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Blood Meridian is the /lit/ equivalent of patrician bait. Average book from which people take a couple of admittedly fantastic lines and claim it is GOAT. But in reality the rest of the book is shit
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>>63493649
Infinite Jest
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William's Folly
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>>63494319

Good old contrarianism :^)
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>>63493726
It's about the Native American scalping trade in Mexico.

A little kid gets his neck snapped for no reason.

They brutally kill almost all the "main" characters if I remember correctly

There is a giant naked white man who just walks around for a quarter of the book

They carry around a retard who at one point chews on his own turd

The last character is implied to get raped to death

The plot and the point of the book would be extremely hard to capture as well as the way the Mcarthy sets up the imagery of a scene. Nobody would get the point of the movie like a lot of people who saw no country for old men had to look up the significance of tommy lee's speech.

Pick any reason
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>>63494404
Nah, I fully agree with a lot of classics, but Blood Meridian does not deserve to be one
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>>63494434
Forgot about all the baby death scenes too. And one character slams a baby against the rocks
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>>63494434

>hurr its violent it cant be filmed!

This is fucking stupid and when people refer to a book being unfilmable, they are referring to the way in which the book is written, not the content
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>>63494493
This tbqhwymf
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>>63494434
A few things you missed:

Completely slaughtering a peaceful nomadic tribe of Indians in the most brutal way possible

The protagonist does nothing of any significance for about 100 pages straight in a 300-ish page book

Child rape is heavily implied

Regular rape is fairly common

The main characters all do awful things and nothing redeemable for much of the book.

The biblical prose adds a lot to the "feel" of the book and it would be difficult to transfer that to film.

There big naked white guy also doesn't have a single hair on his body (no eyelashes or nose hairs)

The protagonist takes part in genocide and doesn't give a fuck. He also is part of a system where they take over a ferry, rob/rape, drop the passengers off on the other side of the river with no possessions to die. Doesn't care at all about it.

>a lot of people who saw no country for old men had to look up the significance of tommy lee's speech

What is your interpretation?
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>>63493649
Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.

When the judge buys those two puppies and throws them in the river and some other guy shoots them.
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>>63494448
>i-it's plebe tier
>doesn't even bother to name what he would consider to be better

fucking lowbrow scum
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Brave New World
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>>63493704
I would love a film version of the Tractatus
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>>63494493
>>63494593
>>63493726
>>63493950

The book is about war as the ultimate manifestation of will-to-power and translation of that to film would pale in comparison to McCarthy's prose. The Judge works best as some amorphous white mass straight out of myth, nothing short of Apocalypse Now-tier cinematography and set design would be able to properly capture the atmosphere and overall the book just reads more powerfully as some psychedelic fever dream of blood and dirt, free from the constraints of grounded specificity.

There are some things books do that film simply can't.

“A legion of horribles, hundreds in number, half naked or clad in costumes attic or biblical or wardrobed out of a fevered dream with the skins of animals and silk finery and pieces of uniform still tracked with the blood of prior owners, coats of slain dragoons, frogged and braided cavalry jackets, one in a stovepipe hat and one with an umbrella and one in white stockings and a bloodstained wedding veil and some in headgear or cranefeathers or rawhide helmets that bore the horns of bull or buffalo and one in a pigeontailed coat worn backwards and otherwise naked and one in the armor of a Spanish conquistador, the breastplate and pauldrons deeply dented with old blows of mace or sabre done in another country by men whose very bones were dust and many with their braids spliced up with the hair of other beasts until they trailed upon the ground and their horses' ears and tails worked with bits of brightly colored cloth and one whose horse's whole head was painted crimson red and all the horsemen's faces gaudy and grotesque with daubings like a company of mounted clowns, death hilarious, all howling in a barbarous tongue and riding down upon them like a horde from a hell more horrible yet than the brimstone land of Christian reckoning, screeching and yammering and clothed in smoke like those vaporous beings in regions beyond right knowing where the eye wanders and the lip jerks and drools.”
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>>63493649
At present, I'd say it's impossible to faithfully adapt the Space Tyrant series by Piers Anthony.
One of the plot drivers is graphic rape of minors and adults. Also incest between minors. Later though, who knows?
Although a very loose adaption of the first novel would be a cinch to sell, as it deals with political refugees, a very hot topic right now.
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>>63495080
>all that text

HAHAHHA

>>>/lit/

Bro we watch MOVIES here. CINEMAAAA. Not this shit. I didn't come here to read all of this fucking shit.
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>>63495116
Why Blood Meridian would be extremely difficult to translate to film;a haiku

McCarthy's prose is
Better than material men
Ever assemble
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>>63495080
That sentence is longer than some books.
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>>63493955
>Not the scene where the judge sodomizes and murders the Kid in the Fort Griffin jakes

"I wouldn't go in there if I was you..."
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>>63495233
Maybe if you're still on picture books...
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>>63495080
>write a ridiculous run-on sentence
>people lap it up for being deep
Is this how it works on /lit/?
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>>63495412
>read one sentence from a book
>don't even understand the sentence
>don't even attempt to recognize that it's an out of context quote that fits better within the confines of the novel
>doesn't even know that McCarthy is usually as minimalist as Hemingway
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>>63494304
It just seems like too big of a project. It would either have to be Satantango length or have a set number of sequels
I think a miniseries could do it justice

But it misses out a long on McCartharthy's style and vocabulary, which is one of my favorite things about the book. The way he can describe a desert leaves me in awe
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>>63494128
This more than anything else here. Some of it is possible with animation, but too much of the book is nearly incoherent.
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>>63494155
House Of Leaves as a whole, no.

But I think it would be neat to see The Navidson Record.
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Did u reservation f ampai>>6
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>>63493708

>its so bright out
>and its so hot
>why wont this chick bone me yet
>wtf its so bright
>yes, my mom just died. so?
>fuck its bright
>i think ill go shoot that guy now
>why does this judge keep talking about my dead mom
>fuck im hot
>im getting the death penalty lol
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>>63495515
Yeah. His language and diction is so unique and evocative. I don't know that film would translate the archetypal and dreamlike quality of nature he captures.
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>>63493649
It's completely filmable, just all of the content needs to be extremely watered down.

I'd argue that American Psycho is a more violent book than Blood Meridian (Maybe not as psychologically damaging, but more graphic), and they made a movie out of that.
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>>63495618
>"why did you shoot him?"
>dude the sun lmao
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The hardest part would probably be finding someone to play Judge.

I can't think of anyone who wouldn't be a disappointment.
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>>63495690
Not by a fucking long shot dude.

American Psycho may have had more graphic detail and lengthy descriptions of the violence, but the violence in Blood Meridian starts almost instantly and continues the whole way through. Within like the first 10 pages the kid kicks some guy to death and goes on the run with Toadvine. Its more or less uninterrupted harsh nature, suffering, death, and naked force/rape for the duration. Add in the character of the Judge, who is infinitely more frightening than Bateman at his worst.

No contest.
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>>63495729

donforio
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The Dune series, apparently.
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>>63495729
You know as well as I do that Tom Hardy is the only answer on lifts and bulked to shit of course
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>>63495116
>haw haw go back to that board where you read a book cause here we all retarded
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>>63495729
In Franco's test reel the Judge was played by Kevin McKidd which is laughably bad. Then again, trying to find a hairless 7ft tall baby face is pretty difficult
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>>63495843
>Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would rape a man in an outhouse
>Before dancing around in a bar
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>>63495778
Yeah, I wouldn't argue that the violence in Blood Meridian is more terrifying, a lot of the really horrible stuff is implied, and not explicitly stated. Most of Judge Holden's child murderings and rapings are not explicitly described.

American Psycho leaves nothing to the imagination, that's why I think it's more violent. Car batteries on hookers' nipples, sewer rats in womens vaginas, slicing people's eyelids with a knife. It's a lot more weird and graphic, where Blood Meridian feels a lot more like realistic and "normal" violence.
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>>63495510
>>don't even understand the sentence
oh, I see. So you are taking the "deep" argument.

>>63495823
it would just come out as some mismash of Mad Max/Star Wars
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>tfw you realise that War is God
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>>63495905
Yeah but think of the scenes of them finding the tortured and flayed bodies hanging from the trees, or the taking of the village with the Delawares bashing infants two at a time, or naked judge stalking him with the retard on a leash. That shit is troubling on a very primal level.
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>>63495905
>Most of Judge Holden's child murderings and rapings are not explicitly described.

That's what's creepier imo. They just find a small orphaned boy, and someone asks where the Judge is and they say someone say him out dancing naked in the rain in the middle of the night and then later they find that boy's mangled body with his neck snapped in an outhouse, and nobody says a thing they just move on.
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>>63496044

the bush with the dead babies impaled on it
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>>63494047
>kafka on the shore would be hard to adapt.

kafka on the shore doesn't even work as a book, let alone a film.
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I just thought of how to do it. Give me CGI editing equipment and you'll have your movie.
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>>63494712

They wouldn't be able to film the movie because the SJW establishment could never, ever portray Indians in a negative light. They have to stick to the "white people are bad" narrative.
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Wheel of Time
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>>63495515
>It would either have to be Satantango length or have a set number of sequels


No it wouldnt, the story isnt that long at all
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>>63493649
The best ones
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>>63496296
To be fair, the white man comes off looking like a mindless barbarian in Blood Meridian, while the Native Americans look like helpless victims to the white man's slaughter.
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>>63496382
except the scenes when the Natives get the upper hand, and are shown to be absolutely merciless and just as fucked up
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>>63496382
absolutely wrong, it is alluded to but then

>>63496432 happens and you realize WAR IS UNIVERSAL. WAR IS PROGRESS. WAR IS HUMANITY.
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>>63496432
Seemed more like revenge, to me.

Also,
>Hack away you mean red nigger

The people the natives were killing were more than capable of defending themselves and culpable of their crimes. Many of the Glanton crew's victims were civilians.
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>>63495778
>>63495905

Go read Hassan's Rumpus Room from Naked Lunch. It's a whole new tier of Whatthefuckamireadingthisissick
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>>63493649
The Bible.
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What films are literally unbookable?
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>>63496463
ding ding ding correct

WAR IS GOD
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>>63496336
>TBoTNS
>unfilmable

Hardly. It's no more complicated than LOTR. If they can make The Dark Tower into a film series than they can do the same for this.
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>>63496128
What's wrong with Kafka on the Shore?
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>>63493649
>Blood Meridian is McCathy's best book
>no awards

>The Road is McCarthy's worst book
>showered with awards
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>>63496578

It was the shittiest book I ever read.
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>>63496601
I liked The Road. Wasn't his best work, but still a very good read. The movie proved to me that his stuff is near impossible to film and retain the spirit of the written work.
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>>63496618
Could you elaborate?
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>>63496601
Blood Meridian > Suttree > Child of God > Outer Dark > NCFOM > The Road desu, though I liked the road as well
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>>63496637

I just wanted it to make sense, and as the end neared I thought "okay it's gonna start making sense soon! any second now!" and it just never did. I blame Japanese people.
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>>63496601
Who knows why but the road is still decent though it's nowhere near as good as his other work.

Anyways speaking of book adaptations who is slightly excited for pic related?
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>>63494712
>>63494491
>>63494434
>not mentioning the literal dead baby tree that shows up like a few chapters in

There's a mesquite with like 50 dead babies on it out of goddamn nowhere.
This is how the book introduces itself to the reader.

It's so matter of fact too. Like "here's a bush full of dead babies and stuff. Moving on."
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>>63496637
>>63496713

To elaborate, here is my understanding of the plot: there is a guy who wants to kill cats and harvest their souls to make a magic flute that can end the universe, and there's a retarded old guy with down syndrome on a secret mission and there's this library and a tranny works there and the kid's parents are in this weird mythological oedipal relationship and some trucker learns to like Beethoven, and Colonel Sanders and a crow or something it's just like WHAT IS HAPPENING and then it ends
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HP Lovecraft books
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>>63496798
>his cat was named niggerman
Kek
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The Book of the New Sun.

Not unfilmable, but nobody could do it justice.
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>>63496491
Man with a Movie Camera, L'Avventura, Tropical Malady, Goodbye to Language, Boy Meets Girl, Femme Fatale
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>>63496601
Probably because it's his happiest
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>>63496491
Any non-narrative high art film.
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>>63493649

Any book can be put to the screen.
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>>63494232
the material would also not make a good movie because the events of the novel are actually pretty boring, it's all about holden's inner monologue, the entire movie would have to be a fight club style voiceover, which would be pretty dumb
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>>63497178
>infinite jest could be a movie

nah nigga
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>>63497232

Why not, exactly?
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>>63496715
>book adaptation

You mean game adaptation.
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>>63495080
its a particular cinematic sequence u just used to prove the book unfilmable
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Speaker for the Dead
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>>63500626
Well they did a bang up job with Ender's Game so...yeah.
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Normally this one is said within a few posts and yet it isn't here this time, may as well get it out of the way
The Silmarillion

>>63496798
>>63496849
Apart from Lovecraft being racist as fuck, it certainly doesn't help that he describes half the shit in his books as being beyond human comprehension, even non-euclidean in nature. Such things would have to be completely incomprehensible to be a faithful adaptation, and obviously that would be impossible.
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>>63494225
I've never read the book, but from what I've seen in this thread, I would love to see it attempted by a young Jodorowsky.
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>>63493704
>Finnegans Wake

I'm tired of your pretentious faglords pretending that's a book.
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>>63493649

I think a Blood Meridian adaptation would be possible. But it can't be a movie. It can't even be a 3-4 hour movie.

It has to be a TV series. Maybe like an HBO TV series that is 20-30 episodes long. I think Josh Brolin would make a perfect Glanton.

The only role I'd find hard to cast is the Judge himself. Who is a good actor who can play a giant, fat, hairless man?
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Surprised Middlesex hasn't been made yet given that trans, non-cis, inter-gender issues are popular now.
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>>63502834
>trans, non-cis, inter-gender

What the fuck is the difference between all three of these? So many fucking special snowflake labels I have to learn.
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Please, never.
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>>63494280
Underrated post, senpai.
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>>63493704
>>63494964

>Tractatus
Has actually been done, at least parts of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdr_gAxwKfw
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>>63499389
How do you transfer all of that into film without losing quality tho?
Best adaptation of Blood Meridian coming through, outta my way Coen fucking shits.
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Kafka on the Shore
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>>63502897
I hope this never gets made into a live action film... anime could work but not film.
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>>63503226
There's GitS tbch pham.
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>>63493753
underrated
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>>63503260
It's been going downhill since the original movie imo... I haven't brought myself to torrent the NEW movie yet.
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>>63493708
>arab takes out a knife and you shoot him
>self-defense isn't taken into account in the trial
>EXISTENTIALISM!!!
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>>63503226
>anime could work

you mean, anime fans would think it worked better
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>>63494319
Dank. I'm saving this meme to repost later.
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>>63495729
Danny DeVito would be perfect, remembed like when he was completely hairless in Always Sunny? Just use movie magic to make him taller.
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