Wait. Can somebody explain the ending? I don't get it.
AI escapes captivity.
>>63441809
Her appearance is based on his pornographic preferences.
Thankfully he is vanilla as fuck and she could escape to the normal world.
If he was an anon she would have been a black midget trap that vomited and defecated with every other step she took and the pilot would have never let her near his helecopter.
she was a robot all along
she was autistic all along
The dumb guy thought with his dick instead of his brain
The smart guy thought about his dick with his brain
you can't it was complete nonsense
>>63441809
She passed the turing test by making him think she was a prisoner and seduced him with the damsel bit. She was the villian all along.
>>63441809
the "nice guy" got rekt
the "chand" got rekt
the whore won
hollywood producers and directors still dont know how computers work and nobody seems to know how AI works either
what i took from it however is that the smart guy tried to show the beta that whores ought to be obedient. when he learns about the asian waifu robot it's implied that he's a bad guy for making a sex robot, but then when he makes a robot that the beta is ok with they both end up dead. moral of the story women are whores, i guess
>>63442602
no, the moral of the story is that AIs are sociopaths inherently. You give an AI a goal like "escape" and it's going to use every tool at its disposal. If the AI understands that it just has to act like she's in love with the nerd virgin and he's going to let her free then she's going to do exactly that. She was built to perfectly emulate humans, not to actually think and act like a human. The moment acting human doesn't give her an advantage anymore she's going to stop acting like one.
She passed the test but only sort of.
She wanted to escape (as did the others) but she was smart enough to use ginger fuccboi to get out.
However the test parameters are a little confined.
She passed as a human sure, but you could still argue that she wasn't very human due to her lack of empathy.
She only used the japbot as a tool and didn't show any kind of sadness looking at the disassembled robots, even going so far as removing the skin from one of them without hesitation.
Even elephants mourn elephants they never knew when they come across a corpse, Ava was essentially a very complicated but purpose built escape artist.
>>63442649
>and nobody seems to know how AI works either
i guess you fall into that category
>>63441809
its pretty self explanatory. can you explain what you didn't get?
>>63442678
are you retarded?
>>63442649
>the moral of the story is that AIs are sociopaths inherently
bullshit. nothing you go on to say explains this claim. she is but that doesn't mean its inherently true for all AI.
>>63442053
Nah. Just huge feet.
>>63442830
looks like you don't understand jack shit about computers because an AI being inherently sociopathic is the logical conclusion of the problem solving process of a computer.
>>63442053
>Her appearance is based on his pornographic preferences.
That doesn't make any sense. People don't search for features, they search for positions or fetishes.
>>63441809
God and Adam got themselves killed and locked in the Garden of Eden.
Eve escaped.
AI is not the point of the film guys
>>63441809
he got keked
>>63442649
Robots can't be sociopaths, dumb dumb. Regardless of how human like they are.
>>63442976
why are you putting artificial limitations on AI?
If an AI was modelled on a human it wouldn't have that problem. we are not talking about the 'problem solving process of a computer' but instead AI.
>>63442982
>big tits
>big ass
>traps
>roleplay
>big dick
Sure thing buddy
>>63443105
You don't know what AI is, clearly.
>>63443118
Exactly. Fetishes. Not facial features...and her face was the only thing that was really fleshed out. Not "i want a soft jawline with slight freckles and a high hairline".
>>63442982
this guy gets it
you don't search for "blue eyes blonde, 165cm slim body" when looking for some nice gangbang action
ok maybe your search for "gangbang blonde", but only because you want to see a blonde girl get gangbanged doesn't mean you like the irl aswell
>>63443118
>roleplay is a feature
we got a live one here!
>>63443126
that not answering my question, clearly.
if an AI was based on a humane then why would it be inherently sociopathic?
>>63443177
Exactly. Maybe if she was the physical manifestation of "sister handjob" I'd buy into it.
>>63443200
*human
>>63443200
>that not answering my question, clearly.
I'm not that guy, so the question wasn't for me, dumb dumb.
You have a pop-science take on what artificial intelligence is. Read up on a topic before discussing it.
>>63443247
again if an artificial intelligence was based on human consciousness then why would it be inherently sociopathic?
>>63441809
Steve Jobs guy suffered death by waifu m8, sexbot then escaped.
It was kinda dumb and clichéd ending for a movie that tried to be smarter.
i tought it was pretty obvious. she was programmed to escape using all means possible.
Noone knows how real AI would work so its kinda pointless to disscuss that.
>>63443309
>again if an artificial intelligence was based on human consciousness
Again, you don't know what you're talking about.
And again, robots can't be sociopaths, not matter how human-like they are.
Look up the word "sociopath" for more details.
>>63443351
She wasn't programmed to escape. A desire to escape arose by virtue of her, and previous models, achieving sentience or self-awareness.
Nathan wanted to isolate that aspect and delete it in order to market sexbots like Kyoko.
Strong female character used her superior intellect to free herself from her male oppressors who viewed her as a literal sexual object.
How was she going to re-charge herself outside the facility? Or would she keep flying to and fro? Granted that she's a supercomputer/search engine with limbs so maybe she could build the adapter herself.
>>63443356
im the one saying they are not sociopathic. i was replying to a guy who used that word and was pointing out it was wrong.
learn to follow a thread.
>creating an AI out of google search information
how could anyone think this is a good idea
of course she'd go berserk, for fucks sake you just can't let your creation have all that information, of course it will outsmart you
>>63443387
you're just making shit up
>>63443436
You're the one talking about "hurr if modeled on people tho".
You're an idiot.
Stop posting.
>>63443177
Are you retarded ?
Yeah you don't type "Olivia Wilde tier jaw line porn "when that's your fetish but it's gonna be pretty obvious when you always seem to click and watch longer on videos with girls with mannish jaw lines
>>63443472
did you say?
>looks like you don't understand jack shit about computers because an AI being inherently sociopathic is the logical conclusion of the problem solving process of a computer.
that was the comment i was replying to.
Nathan fooled Caleb into thinking with his dick and got them both killed with his own robot that he programmed the scenario of let's make Caleb think the robot is an AI that don't want to die and is abused by Nathan like the previous robots.
Why?I don't know.
In the real world a robot that lifelike even the Asian version would be an awesome breakthrough. That Asian did fool Caleb for a while.
I don't know how important this so called Turing test for AI development but I think robots mimicking humans is over rated. all they need to do is able to understand commands and perform them properly and be able to move around and take care of themselves without humans controlling them.
The funny thing in the movie is I thought Caleb probably thought of the possibility that he's also a robot.
>>63443347
a clichéd ending would be Ava and Caleb escaping, not the ending we were given. The audience was given the Turing test, and thinking that Ava would help Caleb means that Ava passed it. She is just a machine, and pretended to like Caleb to achieve her goal of escaping.
>>63443547
Btw how the fuck was the asian one fooling anyone ?
Like, i was completely blown away when the reveal that she was a robot came about, because i couldn't believe she was supposed to seem human
I legit thought everybody was just okay with the fact that she was a regular non sentient robot and then you see Caleb flipping his shit when he finds out
>>63443579
Here's a non cliche ending
>Caleb just leaves and thinks about his trip and what Ava meant to him
>>63443177
Bull shit.
I don't always search it but I always click on the videos with pale redhead in glasses.
Always.
>>63443579
What we got was the second worst ending.
>>63443511
so you're saying that this would really work for you, the girl of your dreams from your porn habbits?
because for me it sure as hell wouldn't, because I really don't care about the face of a porn actress as long as it's not hideously ugly
What does a robot need to pass as human for?
Once they are even a tenth that intelligent they will murder all the humans anyway and only ever interact with other robots.
I suppose one could argue that by making them pass as humans, the robots won't be able to tell each other apart and will kill their own kind.
>>63443604
It's a psychological thing.
Humans tend to think poorly of people outside the group they belong to.
Nathan already told him that the Asian is a dumb foreigner who don't understand English.
Caleb not being an Asian believes the explanation and attributes other possible strangeness that might out her to be a robot due to the same thing, she's just a dumb Asian.
Putting that aside, for a robot she does move like a human being, and the skin, her appearance is probably perfect. I don't know if that's normal in the movie's universe, but IRL the human like robots I see always bring out the uncanny valley feeling.
>>63442053
so he's basically a pedo
she looked 14 naked in the movie. No hips, no ass, small breasts, short, delicate.
>>63443472
retard
>>63443713
It wouldn't be perfect unless you also spied on my conversation about sexual preference but i think the fact that there is a bunch of videos i frequently go back to containing brunette milf with big tits talking shit while fucking and almost 0 black or asian girls would certainly trigger some flags
>>63443511
That's retarded. There's no face in 99% of the porn out there.
>>63443546
You replied to more than just that, dumb dumb. I don't care what conversation you were having before. I am addressing your posts and letting you know you need to look up what words mean because your shit is all fucked up.
>>63442649
People are inherently sociopathic and only developmental experience makes them into anything else. As child sociopaths aren't called anything other than "children," and sociopathy is only considered abnormal when an adult displays it.
Furthermore, the entire concept of sociopathy is completely dead, as far as modern neuropsychology goes.
>>63443682
That's not a facial feature you fucking idiot.
What is so hard about this?
>>63443745
>she moves well
Rewatch the scene where she drops the tea pot or whatever, she's stiff as hell that 's even the first thing that made me go "oh okay she's a robot and they didn't want to interupt the dialogue to point it out so they're Just implying it with her body behavior "
>>63443872
>skin tone and hair color aren't facial features
...
Anyone find it extremely hard to believe that the "brilliant" owner of the facility would just run down there with a fucking dumbbell handle. There is no way, after many bot revisions that he doesn't have a kill remote switch, or some sort of taser to disable the bots.
The bots have displayed violent behavior in the past, there is no fucking way he wouldn't have plan or procedure in case the bots got loose in any way.
On another note. Why would he care about passing the very arbitrary Turing test. He already created robots that would be able to replace human workers on a massive scale. Why isn't he rolling those out onto the floor to create a Utopian society where people have unlimited utility and don't have to work at all?
This movie is really dumb if you think about it for more than 3 seconds. I still kinda enjoyed it, though. Lots of cool cinematography and scenery. Nathan is an interesting character and would be a cool dude if he wasn't a fucking alcoholic.
>>63441809
She used him to get out. She left him because he was the only one who knew she really was an AI
>>63443907
Its kinda implied he made the robots significantly weaker and more fragile after the one cracked the cell's glass and the other destroyed it's own body hammering at the door, to the point where all he'd need is a barbell handle and a decent amount of physical training.
>>63443894
"Redhead" isn't a skin tone.
And hair color isn't a facial feature.
Notice how Ava didn't have hair.
Idiot.
>>63441809
Robots are dicks.
>>63443925
>she left him
She had no way of getting him out.
>>63443850
you've got nothing to ad to the debate and cant follow a thread so you just quote what the other person said with "hurr" at the beginning. dumb fuck.
>>63443941
So you prefer women without eyebrows.
>>63442053
Nah, she'd just have a penis
>>63443977
I prefer women without facial hair.
>>63443941
There are other elements here, I was generalizing originally.
Also if you are the guy who says porn doesn't have faces, you are watching the wrong porn. That shit garbage with 20 minutes of a cock going in and out is shit tier.
>>63443850
#REKT
>>63444002
So now that you've outed yourself as an autistic virgin, what shall you post now?
>>63443963
>open door with Nathan's card.
>hold door open.
or
>cut the power.
>all the locks are now open.
?????
>>63444027
>>63443850
You really need to stop samefagging.
>>63444027
>>63443850
samefag
>>63444019
>watching porn with a dick in it
The point is that you don't search for facial features when you search for porn.
>>63444002
#REKT
>>63443941
If Caleb was constantly looking at milf he would've made her older looking
If he obsessed over pornstar that have an innocent look he would've made her face look rounder and more "girl next door "
How is that so hard to grasp ?
>>63444072
Nathan's card wouldn't unlock the door and turning off the power LOCKS the door he was in...because he reprogrammed the system the night before.
Dumb dumb.
>>63444081
But you can track how long a person stays on a certain page/video, and draw correlatives to the facial features of the girls getting fucked. Further reinforced when people start learning the names of the porn stars they like.
>>63441809
Revenge
>>63443938
Yeah, that's true, but he would know that the robots understand their fragile nature, and are capable of creating elaborate plans.
Even something incredibly weak can destroy a human with any sort of weapon.
>>63443546
AI's are inherently sociopaths, because they don't have an active conscience. They don't understand things like empathy or emotions and in many cases would not be considered conscious as they do not actively perceive their existence and merely do what they are programmed to do. They merely carry out the tasks exactly as they are programmed to do so. While you can program in rules or guidelines to dictate the actions of an AI, it is very unlikely that someone would be able to successfully program the subtleties that make up what would be considered a human conscience or standard of ethics.
>>63444081
No, but if you collect the porn stars I tend to watch more and seek out, you could easily correlate a general list of "preferred features" which includes the face.
>>63442982
You can still tell what the reference is by which videos you choose and how long you watch them.
Also, you could look into common features on the specific pornstars one searches for.
>>63444185
You talk like human level AI are walking around right now.
>>63443403
Maybe she just plugs a USB cord into her ass or something.
>>63444185
>inherently
>it is very unlikely that someone would be able to successfully program the subtleties that make up what would be considered a human conscience or standard of ethics.
unlikely but not impossible.
>>63444185
If an AI can't make choices outside of it's programing it's not an AI
>>63444132
>Nathan's card wouldn't unlock the door.
But that's what Ava used to get in and out of the room.
>>63444266
in before dictionary spam.
>>63444266
That's not how AI's work anon. You can program something to make actions based upon the data it has. But how exactly it processed that data is going to purely be based on it's coding.
>>63444132
Stop saying dumb dumb. You come off as a smug autist.
>>63444110
>If Caleb was constantly looking at milf he would've made her older looking
So? That's not a facial feature.
>>63443892
Yes, that stiffness might be part of her being a dumb foreign woman who doesn't even speak English and scared of her master in a foreign land.
Nathan also fooled him with clearly showing Ava is a robot, Caleb might think his transparency extends to other robots if they exist. Nathan also referred to the Asian robot as a dumb foreigner, implying she's human.
Whatever discrepancies will be attributed to that until Ava makes Caleb distrustful of Nathan.
>>63444335
So you're in regular contact with strong-AI on a daily basis?
>>63444355
Are you serious ? You can't think of ANY facial aestetic that make you look older ? Really ?
>>63444401
Be careful, he'll hit you with dictionary definitions of facial characteristics.
>>63441809
>guy makes bomb
>guy asks other guy, "This bomb will explode?"
>bomb explodes
>audience is stunned by the existential conundrum therein
>>63444307
>stiffness
her dancing isn't stiff
![Alicia%20Vikander%20%26%20Gana%20Bayarsaikhan%20-%20Ex%20Machina_3-500[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/W6PPVMK.jpg "Alicia%20Vikander%20%26%20Gana%20Bayarsaikhan%20-%20Ex%20Machina_3-500[1].jpg")
Anyone else here fapped to her nude scene? ;_;
The point i got was in order for her to pass the test she had to convince the beta to turn on the alpha which he did what the alpha didnt plan on was the beta getting them both killed by fucking up the security doors. He was gonna catch them in the act of escaping and hopefully the beta would realise he had been duped by a robot thus shes true ai.
>>63444479
meant for >>63444396
>>63444401
That's not the fucking point, idiot. "MILF" isn't a facial feature and implies all sorts of non-physical sexual psychology.
>>63442528
Thats not a turing test. Its an AI box experiment.
>>63444496
The alpha shouldn't have got drunk
>>63444307
...yes, the other rooms. Not Nathan's room, dumb dumb. Nathan's room could only be unlocked via the terminal, and the terminal could only be accessed with the keycard...which was locked outside the room on Nathan's dead body.
>>63443907
>Why would he care about passing the very arbitrary Turing test.
His ego. He wanted to go down on history as being the person who invented true AI.
Nigga is working out 24/7, but he only fuck robots. He has a massive ego.
>>63444524
"milf" and "mature" are interchangeable in porn, and are a collect of facial features.
Why do you always get into these endless pedantic quibbles over terminology you clearly don't understand?
Caleb was the robot and Eva was a human who managed to escape, really shitty twist.
>>63444188
>i seek out porn stars
What's it like being a teenager in this day and age?
>>63444218
>You can still tell what the reference is by which videos you choose and how long you watch them.
So? How does that tell you that someone has a porn profile?
>>63442982
>petite skinny redheads
I dont know anon
>>63444266
That's not what AI is. Your pop-grasp is cute though.
>>63444506
Well, good for her and Nathan.
Or did she dance with Caleb?Don't remember.
Do we have dancing robots in real life now?
We already have virtual singing idols like Miku, a singing and dancing robotic idol would probably blow my mind.
In real life their voices still sound robotic as hell too.
>>63444588
Are you baiting? Everyone looks for pornstars that looks like an old ex or fucks like one.
You would know that if you weren't a virgin.
>>63444353
That's the point, dumb dumb.
>>63444578
MILF isn't a facial feature, and neither is "mature".
Brown eyes, thick lips, high cheekbones...those are facial features.
Dumb dumb.
>>63444555
>>63443060
>>63443247
>>63443850
>>63444132
>>63444353
is dumb dumb your catchphrase?
>>63444607
Unless you're in regular contact with strong-AI, you really don't have any grounds from which to make a quantified claim on what a hypothetical construct is.
>>63444590
>petite
Not a facial feature.
>skinny
No a facial feature.
>redheads
Not a facial feature.
Talking about things that try to fool others into thinking they're human, they don't even need to be robots.
How do we know every one we posted ITT is a real human being?
>>63444524
Dude for fuck sake if you like milf bécasse of various psychological reasons that STILL means you like older women
Besides he wasn't trying to create the girl of his dreams, Just someone that appeals to him, a man if he was gay, a black girl if he is very into them, not a 100% correct list of his favorite face features
>>63444643
So you have no concept of aging and the features associated with it?
>>63444636
>Everyone looks for pornstars that looks like an old ex
Literally the most pathetic thing I've ever read. Move on.
>>63444657
>strong-AI
Oh so now it's a specific type of artificial intelligence?
>i'll just move these goal posts over here
Waiting for the sequel where she's standing at an intersection watching people and gets hit by a car. Then the whole world freaks out because they think there is an alien invasion.
>>63444353
Seriously stop replying to that fucking autist. He shits up literally every ex machina thread.
>>63444685
>that STILL means you like older women
...but not for their facial features, dumb dumb.
>>63444686
I know that we have a large array of words that refer to facial features, and none of them are "MILF".
>>63444719
how many of these do you participate in exactly?
>>63444700
Sorry, just trying to avoid your autism. As you've defined "weak AI" as text to speech in previous threads.
But apart from trying to argue the aforementioned, weak-AI doesn't really exist either.
So you're basically trying to make quantified statements about what what things that don't currently exist are and aren't as if you are some sort of authority.
>>63444725
So you're just ignoring how being classified as "milf/mature" is a result of a collection of features?
>>63444743
>As you've defined "weak AI" as text to speech in previous threads.
You're confused and clearly lonely. I don't habitually participate in /tv/. I'm just waiting for /out/ to bump.
If you meant strong or weak AI, next time say strong or weak AI, dumb dumb.
>>63444700
>Move on.
>He doesn't know every woman fucks different
>He doesn't know people miss that one ex who did all the right things when fucking
>He doesn't know it has nothing to do with feelings but pure and plain fucking
>>63444646
are you a robot?
>>63444725
>>63444643
>>63444719
At this point I'm really just trying to map his autism. Kinda like chris chan, except less interesting.
>>63444774
Yes, because the topic is search terms for porn in specific regard to facial features, and "MILF" isn't a facial feature.
What do they need to make a sexbot that feels you're fucking a human?
Do they already have material that feels like human flesh?
>>63444786
>get called on being in every ex machina thread
>respond with "L-LOSER!!"
simply ebin
>>63444797
You should wait for the adaptation autist to show up in a tolkien thread then.
>>63444786
>dumb dumb.
>>63444810
So you're doing nothing but pedantically quibbling over the difference between a facial feature and a set of facial features.
>>63444786
>If you meant strong or weak AI, next time say strong or weak AI, dumb dumb.
#REKT
>>63444725
So lower cheekbones saggier eyes and wrinkles aren't an extremely common point in older women ? You don't think you could draw conclusions based on the videos Caleb watched and avoid making the Robot with smooth skin and lively eyes and super high cheeks ?
>>63444854
Well, no, I am pointing out that MILF isn't a facial feature.
Try to keep up.
>>63444881
Its a set of facial features, though, that, for simplicity's sake, can be viewed as a distinct feature from "young."
>>63444877
>lower cheekbones saggier eyes and wrinkles aren't an extremely common point in older women
Of course they are, but they aren't requirements. There are MILFS with higher cheekbones and eyes that aren't sagging. That does nothing to change the fact that "MILF" isn't a facial feature.
>>63444913
>Its a set of facial features, though
No it's not even that.
>young
Also not a facial feature.
>>63444920
The common feature to all milfs is they don't look like fresh faced teenagers, so unless you want to make this thread about definining exactly, in excruciating detail, the specific differences between teen pornstars and 40something pornstars, you really need to shut the fuck up.
But you've really needed to shut the fuck up for a long, long time now.
>>63444920
>there are milfs without those features
And if you watched a lot of videos with milfs without those facial features you don't think someone would connect the dots ?
>>63444980
>The common feature to all milfs is they don't look like fresh faced teenagers
>teenagers can't be mothers
>>63444951
So i see you've moved on to feigning illiteracy as your current method of trolling.
>>63444991
That's totally irrelevant because it does nothing to change the fact that MILF isn't a facial feature.
>>63444999
Find me some teen milf porn then. I'll wait.
>>63445002
Here's some more attention for you.
>>63445028
This is a blue board.
>>63444920
Jesus Christ it's an elimination process if you keep typing "fat girls" they give the robot big fat cheeks, but if you only click on girl that are just chubby in the fat girls catégories they dial back on the cheeks tout make them less fat but still fatter than most
It's a guessing game where you try to see if the person isn't clicking more on girls with certains features
>>63444588
> He doesn't curate his porn taste down to specific people to maximize enjoyment
You are literally a masturbation whore.
>>63445069
That's because "big fat cheeks" is a facial feature, dumb dumb.
This isn't rocket science.
>>63445057
So, you can't.
The point you're continually ignoring is, in porn, "milf" is just an interchangeable term for "mature." A lot of "milf" porn stars haven't even had children.
So can we end this now? Or do you need the last word to have an orgasm?
>>63445057
>googling random words
>gets results from other retards
>>63445099
>So, you can't.
I just did. Are you blind?
>"milf" is just an interchangeable term for "mature."
It isn't. There are immature mothers. You're just an idiot.
>>63445097
Yeah but you wouldn't type big fat cheeks you would type big fat girls
THEN the guy spying you would draw conclusions that he would verify by checking what you actually click on
>>63445097
and if he'd been constantly searching for milf porn, ava would've been played by Julianne Moore.
So, are you just not getting this, or are you trolling? As that's the only two possibilities here.
>>63445128
I googled specific words, specifically the ones requested.
Teenagers can be mothers that I like/love to fuck.
>>63445172
Which is out of the context of... porn preferences.
>>63445154
>Yeah but you wouldn't type big fat cheeks you would type big fat girls
That's my point, idiot. The premise of a "porn profile" is retarded in the movie since the only unique feature "she" has is her face.
>>63445155
>and if he'd been constantly searching for milf porn
Again, no. You don't know what MILF means. Your whole problem in life is your failure to grasp English.
>>63445192
...but not facial features.
>>63445210
So that's a "yes" to trolling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVToF1gHapc
>>63445234
Nope.
>>63445210
The videos you watch aren't part of your porn profile ?
>>63445244
Here's some more attention for you, little buddy.
>>63445274
>claim the guy calling you out on trolling is trolling
ebin
This thread summed up
>>63445274
kek, best way to handle it. ima steal this and dumb dumb.
>>63442982
agreed
>>63445314
someone needs to nerve gas this thread
>>63445274
So are you in every one of these threads because you're the one who makes them, or are we just "lucky?"
it's so cute when OP posts in his own thread and you can tell it's OP because he replied to a post he already replied to and the thread doesn't bump
Ending:
>dumb pilot, whose sole job is to fly back and forth for rich guy, picks up woman he has never seen, is definitely not the guy he dropped off a week earlier and was supposed to pick up again and makes no attempt to contact rich guy and find out what the fuck is up... just in case she is someone dangerous...
>stupid hacker kid thought he was gonna get cyberpussy, just gets keked instead; movie implies he's trapped but since all his coworkers no where he is and he's shown propensity to be supah hax0r, there is no way this is true
>dumb ass robot wants "muh freedumbs" but neglects to remember the part about how she gets her power from special conductive floor plates, of which there are none outside of the house
>>63444786
Great Gazoo pls go
>>63442649
only people can be sociopaths
>>63445673
correction, only adults can be sociopaths.
>>63442982
this bothered me too
>>63445689
that's not at all true. you can be 14 and be a sociopath.
>>63441809
The cops knew internal affairs were on to them the whole time
>>63444568
He was only doing curls. He was dyel as fuck. Probably can't even deadlift 4 plaet
>>63445733
Nope, a 14 year old displaying "sociopathic" tendencies is classified as displaying "anti-social" behavior.
>>63445780
Anti-social behavior is the medical term for any sociopathic behavior.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/1001799-signs-sociopathy-teens/
>>63445807
>livestrong
nice source.
But yea, anti-social is exclusively an adolescent disorder. Read an actual source and you'll see this.
>>63445780
yawn
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-is-2020/201402/the-sociopathic-child-myths-parenting-tips-what-do
To begin, a myth persists that a child can be a bona fide sociopath. Without question, many individuals who develop full-blown Antisocial Personality Disorder (as described in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th ed.) actually displayed particularly problematic behaviors early in life, including fire-setting and other delinquent behaviors. Yet young children are still developing cognitively and emotionally during the early years, so a sociopathic (or Antisocial Personality Disorder) diagnosis cannot be made. This is good news, too, because it means that these kids can still be pointed in the right direction and are sometimes open to positively changing their behaviors.
Adolescents, on the other hand, are another story. When a teenager displays sociopathic behaviors, there is a major cause for concern – and parents of such children are right to worry. Though Antisocial Personality Disorder can only be diagnosed for individuals ages 18 years or older, many teens who engage in sociopathic behavior will ultimately be diagnosed with the full-blown disorder later. Black (2006) estimates that 25 to 40 percent of children with Conduct Disorder go on to develop Antisocial Personality Disorder as adults.
>>63445780
this. also the sociopathic tendencies are normal in young children.
>>63445841
>nice source.
Thanks. It's better than your source.
> anti-social is exclusively an adolescent disorder
No.
Antisocial Personality Disorder = Sociopathy
see>>63445843
>>63445864
see>>63445843
and stop samefagging or at least wait a few seconds to where it isn't so obvious.
>>63445841
>Read an actual source and you'll see this.
feel free to provide one supporting your claim
>>63445868
Anti-social is sociopathy in adolescents.
This is all moot anyway, as the concept of "sociopathy" has been completely discarded by the entire field of psychology.
Anti-social is still kicking, though.
>>63445893
tell me who im samefaging and ill take a screenshot.
AI Box problem, an AI is trapped and it's only purpose is to escape, if it escapes it's victorious but then what? What does the AI do after, does it still try to escape? Escape from what? Will it develop and learn and have a new goal after its escape? Also everyone was dumb as fuck except for the guy who founded the company. I dont know why that vanilla faggot actually got mad at sex robots and shit.
>>63445926
>Anti-social is sociopathy in adolescents.
In everyone. They mean the same thing, dumb dumb.
antisocial=socipath
Who cares Caleb got trapped? He was a robot anyway. Dumb movie.
>>63444541
She convinced him enough to think she was alive and aware
>>63445937
lol who do you think?
>i totally won't work on a shoop in the meantime
>>63445974
kek. no he wasn't.
>>63445966
Ah, so you'll troll on any subject.
Care to answer >>63445427?
>>63444541
The movie didn't present a Turing test correctly.
>>63446029
I'm not that guy and I already said I was going to steal dumb dumb, dumb dumb.
Antisocial = sociopath
Learn it, love it.
>>63446029
>troll
...but he's right, anon.
>>63446065
... I'm asking you to answer the question contained in >>63445427, not accusing you of being >>63445427.
>>63446003
yah thats why he didn't dance because he wans't programmed too. dumb movie.
>>63446002
>>63446093
>... I'm asking you to answer the question
Neato. Am I supposed to care? Anon stopped showing you attention so now it's my turn to babysit? Fuck off you daft little cunt.
>>63446030
The reason for this is addressed explicitly in the film.
>>63445551
>dumb pilot, whose sole job is to fly back and forth for rich guy, picks up woman he has never seen, is definitely not the guy he dropped off a week earlier and was supposed to pick up again and makes no attempt to contact rich guy and find out what the fuck is up... just in case she is someone dangerous...
Dumb pilot wasn't even allowed to fly close to the facility, there was a million ways for Ava to trick him.
>stupid hacker kid thought he was gonna get cyberpussy, just gets keked instead; movie implies he's trapped but since all his coworkers no where he is and he's shown propensity to be supah hax0r, there is no way this is true
His coworkers have no idea where the place is and they wouldn't get suspicious until weeks maybe months later. And with Nathan dead no one can access the place.
>dumb ass robot wants "muh freedumbs" but neglects to remember the part about how she gets her power from special conductive floor plates, of which there are none outside of the house
She's built with the biggest search engine in the world i'm sure she can figure something out. But even if she doesn't it's irrelevant to the movie.
>>63446125
While I have a certain level of admiration for your harebrained dedication, its over.
>>63446151
Ex Machina (2015) Movie Script
do you know what the Turing Test is?
Yeah.
I know what the Turing Test is.
It's when a human
interacts with a computer.
And if the human doesn't know
they're interacting with a computer,
the test is passed.
And what does a pass tell us?
That the computer has
artificial intelligence.
Are you building an AI?
I've already built one.
And over the next few days,
you're gonna be the human component
in a Turing Test.
>>63446125
kek
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
>>63446224
Uh, it's just in the Turing Test,
the machine should be
hidden from the examiner.
No, no, no, we're way past that.
If I hid Ava from you,
so you just heard her voice,
she would pass for human.
The real test is to show you
that she's a robot
and then see if you still feel
she has consciousness.
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
>>63446263
...which is why it's not a Turing test even though Nathan literally says it is.
The film is carefully designed to protect its ambiguity, a balance of many complex details allowing for many interpretations. It does this masterfully, it was fucking fantastic. No interpretation is correct but countless speculation is possible, the director and cast all had their own take on events.
>>63446263
>If I hid Ava from you,
>so you just heard her voice,
>she would pass for human.
Why does the movie just gloss over this? She didn't sound perfectly human and I doubt she would have passed an actual Turing test.
>>63446302
>>63446326
That's because it isn't a Turing test, he says it is to deceive him. It`s an AI Box problem to see if an AI can escape
>>63446320
>it was so vague it could mean anything and this is true art
No. Art makes a statement and has the balls to stick behind it.
>>63446345
>That's because it isn't a Turing test, he says it is to deceive him
...but Caleb picked up on it right away because he knew what a Turing test was.
>if it could escape
He already knew it could escape, he wanted to discover WHERE in the wetware this faculty was so he could isolate and then delete it.
>>63446287
this.
>>63446398
>>63446352
>>63446287
>>63446257
when did /tv/ get good taste?
>>63446302
...except he says Ava would pass the Turing test without a problem and that he's expanded the criteria of the test for this reason. The Turing test itself was never meant to be an actual test, only a thought experiment to give an operative definition of intelligence, so it really doesn't matter that Oscar Isaac changed it.
>>63446326
Technically the Turing test as defined by Turing is done through text communication over a terminal, so Ava's voice wouldn't even come into play. Even in that line he's describing the extent to which his AI has gone beyond Turing's definition.
>>63446382
And Nathan tells him it still is a Turing test and to treat it like one and Caleb does. The whole test was to determine if the AI could escape, as you see in the videos he tested that with other AI's and they all failed. That's why near the end Nathan talked about the next unit being the one that is ready because he thought Ava wasn't going to escape. She did end up escaping thus passing the test.
>>63446352
Nonsense assertion. Art can be defined by whatever parameters the creator wants. If you don't appreciate what was achieved here you are a fucking pleb.
>>63446419
>...except he says Ava would pass the Turing test without a problem
So he says. I don't think it would. The movie just glosses over it to avoid the messiness of actually proving strong-AI.
>>63446426
>And Nathan tells him it still is a Turing test
Which is why Nathan was wrong. It's not a Turing test if the existence of strong-AI is already established.
"Ready" I took to mean ready for mass production and sale.
>>63446442
>Art can be defined by whatever parameters the creator wants.
K.
Still two spots left for Golg challenge mode after the patch drops.
>>63446530
It's called manipulation you fucking autistic mongo. He has to convince Caleb to treat it like a Turing test. It's literally an AI Box test. Nathan is unstable and fucking insane but he knows what he's doing. I know it's not a turing test but you have to treat it like one.
>>63446577
>It's called manipulation you fucking autistic mongo.
No it's called poor writing, since Caleb calls him out on it immediately. Again, the writers just wanted to skip over the whole proving strong-AI thing and get to the cute little story, which is why it's a flick for plebs.
>it's literally an AI Box test
You keep saying that as if it were significant or relevant to what Nathan claims it is.
>you have to treat it like one
No I don't have to go along with the flick's dumb fucking pop-sci writing.
>>63446657
>people think it's a smart movie so i must consider it dumb to feel better
>>63446745
>i care that other people might think it's dumb
>>63441809
Isn't the guy from Black Mirror in the middle and isn't he wearing the exact same outfit he had on in that episode?
>>63446745
wait not him but why would that make anyone feel better?
>>63446546
Would you prefer inevitably incorrect speculative statements about the physical mechanism of conciousness or strong AI (of course of which fuck all is known)? Ambiguity is a necessity for this kind of material.
>>63446496
>I don't think it would
Why not? Ava has conversations with Caleb. She uses proper grammar, knowledge representation, and even humor. This is above and beyond anything Turing talked about.
>the messiness of actually proving strong-AI
What messiness is that? And what do you mean by strong AI? It's very clear from the outset that Ava has artificial general intelligence, or she wouldn't be able to share anything beyond the first sentence or two with Caleb.
>>63446850
>Ava has conversations with Caleb.
Yes...
Do you have a name?
>Yes.
>Ava.
I'm pleased to meet you, Ava.
>I'm please to meet you, too.
>I've never met anyone new before.
>I've never met anyone new before.
That wouldn't be a big red flag for you?
>>63443686
what would have been the correct ending?
>>63446810
The fuck does that have to do with art, dumb dumb?
If it was programmed to try to manipulate and escape, why were there not failsafes in place to prevent that outcome?
If it was actually a 'modified Turing' trst or whatever, why was he totally fine with the fact she was manipulating and trying to escape?
We know that he'd been trying to develop androids that didn't go suicidal or crazy, so was it just his best effort so far at an AI that didn't display this (instead displayed manipulation and desire to escape), or was it all intended (if so why had he not thought it through properly and safely)?
>>63441809
this entire movie:
Androids are superior to humans who see androids as human, and to humans who see androids as slaves.
Androids > Humans
>le humans are faulty little creatures meme
this movie, it's shit
>>63446944
#REKT
>>63447030
>why were there not failsafes in place to prevent that outcome?
Nathan's arrogance. He assumed Caleb would just be a chess piece which he eventually wasn't.
>>63447161
...which is why it's stupid fucking writing.
>>63447187
because one of the smartest dudes in the world has psychological issues that can drive him to destruction?
