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Leaked screenshot from series 10 edition.

The previous pissy biscuit: >>63371687
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First for timelord confiscating claras tardis
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>>63374876
I was hoping the black guy in the raven episode would be the next companion. I thought he was kinda cool.
Too bad he's a dad and everything.
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is clara alive m8s??????


im very confused
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YOU FOOLS
THEY WERE GOOD BISCUITS
AND THEY COST FOUR POUNDS
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>>63374950
'alive' — she's half a frozen heartbeat away from death.

but yeah, she's alive. moffat, right?
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>>63374950
yes
and they meme'd it with
>b-b-but she will die eventually!
so nothing happens
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Where does Ashildr get her clothes from at the end of the universe?
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Post music
https://youtu.be/RGVMlU9b6zE?t=80
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>>63374980
she made them herself using only her armpit hairs
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What was the point of the hybrid thing? I've still met a single fan who liked the half-human stuff so why did Moffat even try to imply it?
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>>63374950
yes and no.

She's timelocked and has a time machine she can effectively travel around for as long as she wants and do fuck all, she just has to make sure when she decides shes ready to die to be dropped back off in the very second she was taken away so she can die by the raven getting in her guts and coming out her mouth.

>dat feel when no r34 of her in the waitress costume
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>>63374795
all they have to do is let "Me" look into the Tardis time vortex and give Clala immortality properly

then "Me" just has to trick some timelord into taking it all in, he will just regenerate anyway
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Is Clara like Owen Harper now?
>my last fart
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Fuck Clara.
Fuck Ashildr.
Fuck Moffat.
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I realised the problem with Moffat is that he cant write big scale episodes.
All his best episodes are stand alone adventures working on a smaller scale
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>>63375005
at the very least this not even half assed attempt at a "hybrid" shit was one of the most retarded things to ever try and wrap your mind around.

>We've had a literal Dalek/human/timelord hybrid
>we've got a human/timelord hybrid
>we've got the Doctors daughter
>we've got Rose under her badwolf shit
>we've got DoctorDonna which would qualify as a timelord/human hybrid
>but the hybrid the timelords are worried about isn't actually a hybrid at all just the Doctor and 1 particular companion

The timelords probably would have shit the bed had they been around for DoctorDonna or BadWolfRose
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I don't understand why Moffat is pandering to the Tumblr crowd.

All the female 'fandom' people who I know from uni have stopped watching, despite being obsessed with the show a few years ago. The ratings show this, too.

Being cynical, I think they might only have watched for the fantasy of being whisked away in a Tardis by a young man to see the stars. I doubt they get those 'feels' from Capaldi.
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>>63375090
Moffat is out of touch, more news at 11
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>>63375090
only thing I can figure and I just hope im right is it was nothing more than a fuck you to the tumblr crowd thats been demanding his head on a spike for not regenerating the Doc into a fat black disabled version yet.

>YOU WANT BLACK FEMALE TIMELORD
>HERE SHE GETS A 10 MINUTE PART IN THE SEASON FINALE
>NEXT TIME SAID TIMELORD SHOWS UP HE'LL BE ASIAN AND THEN MEXICAN
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>>63375086
I think it's because the past Hybrids are delt with, so they fear what might still be on the table.

At second watch I liked this episode, but I'm still dissapointed with Clara involvement. She had nice ending. With flying off for some adventures and dying. (I hope they won't bring her back, I hate 'spin-off' type characters).

But I'm really dissapointed that brilliant Heaven Sent was now another episode dedicated to HOW CLARA IS SUPER SPECIAL AND I WILL DO SOOOOO MUCH TO SAVE HER. I think that's the most annoying thing about Clara. That Moffat is treating her like the best thing in the Universe and trying to force it so much it hurts.
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>>63375128
>tfw pic related will be the General's thirteenth and final incarnation
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Fuck Clara.
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JUST
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>>63374969
>>63375007
whats the conjecture, will clara be eating/using the loo/run out of breath/be vulnerable and if so, heal in the likely spinoff?
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>>63375090
I really don't mind a white man regenerating into a black women. While obvious pandering it still makes sense.

But FUCK whoever wrote their reactions. That soldier should not have been that shocked and that comment about ego was retarded.

Imagine if it were the other way around and a female to male timelord said something along the lines of "finally I am not a slave to my emotions anymore. Now I can get shit done."
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"you said a kid wasn't special"
>moffat

"we need to abort the moon"
>moffat
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>>63375187
>wake me up inside
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>>63375143
I like Clara but that shit gets annoying when Moffat would get on that train about making her the best thing in the universe.

Hell Martha Jones flies in the face of everything to do with Clara
>likes the Doctor and willing to help him when he needs it but knows full well not to ever go full doctor or to travel with him for any extended period of time or else you're in for some shit
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>>63375090

God damn I hate her so much I just wanna punch her fucking smug face.
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>>63375187
Exterminate me!
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>>63375055
>Fuck Clara
don't mind if I do
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>>63375233
I think the same. Clara is good but Mof shouldn't have put her on such a grand pedestal. It got ridiculous.
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Worst episode
of the worst series
fuck Moffat
I'm done
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>>63374764
>>63374791
There wasn't a Dalek invasion in 2008 was there? Nor a giant spider web over London at Christmas 2006 either? Or dead people rising out of their tombs as Cybermen last year? So who the fuck cares there are Indians in 1650s England. This isn't our universe.
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>>63375213

Ironically the ego comment actually sounded "more" egotistical and smug coming from her, because Ken Bones was one of the least egotistical Time Lords I've ever seen.

The thing is if that was the intent then I'd actually applaud Moffat for having some focus there, but I really doubt that's what he was going for.
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DON'T STOP ME NOW I'M HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME

I'M HAVING YOUR BALLS
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>>63375015
>he will just regenerate anyway

Into a black paraplegic transwoman.
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I really liked the episode, good conclusion for Clara and nice throwbacks to older episodes. Some cringy moments like the "all men are egotistic fags even though I was one 3 seconds ago and I was also a pretty good character" and Lady Meme still being unable to act, however, it was pretty good.
Heaven Sent was better though, but no one expected Moffat to being able to stay on the same quality level.
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Do you guys think Mofat will leave, step down or get fired?
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>>63375312
Oh you mean the alien incursions that the Doctor had to fix.
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>>63374922
>black father
>doesn't run away from his family

It makes perfect sense. I thought he'd be a companion too. He was alright in what we saw.
Next companion: Karl pilkington, all he does is complain about going on adventures
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Well the "Hybrid" shit really panned out to be nothing at all.

>"Uh maybe it's this, no maybe it's that I dunno lol I guess it meant two people XD"
>end of episode

Next ep will be River and I bet a lot of people are already assblasted but I actually like her fine.
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>>63375351
Yeah. He fixed them but he didn't erase them from everyone's memories. Doctor who clearly isn't happening in our universe so who the fuck cares about Indians in 1650s England?
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>>63375358
Next episode can be be comfy, atleast its only Doctor and River with no companions for River to brag to.
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post your face when riversong tells the doctor that she is pregnant during the Christmas special (and is Susan foremans grandmother)
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That was so racist how they kept showing straight white men and no muslims with asperger's syndrome.
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>>63375358
River is alright but Moffat would go overblown with Older River and younger Doctor relationship and the whole River and her younger parents Amy and Rory shit.

Am rather looking forward to seeing how the shit plays out with her and an older Doctor
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>>63375345
If I were one of the higher ups in the BBC I'd be stepping on his kneck to get to him seriously look someone capable of replacing him.

Being Moffat I suspect he's deliberately surrounding himself with mediocre talent so he doesn't have to go.
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>>63375345
Both
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>>63375312
>Using shit that happened in present day era stories in the context of historicals

You're trying so desperately to make this bullshit work, just give up.
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David and Matt are angry with Alex because she's back with Peter's Doctor hahahaha
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>>63375422
Its going to be gaypiss if Moffat gets to choose.
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reminder this finale was GOAT

GOAT
O
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GOAT
O
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What was the mythos change, I think I missed it?
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tfw we will never get a chris addison companion
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>River is back again
>Still no Captain Jack Hunkness
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>>63375422
thats a very real possibility that Moffat has set it up so that the series shits the bed the minute he steps away just in the hopes BBC comes asking for him back.

At the very least he could use the leverage to get more $$$
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>>63375412
River regenerated at least twice right? A white baby...to a black girl (Amy's friend) and then into Normal river

So they could replace her at some point? Or is it some stupid who thing where she has to stay "normal river" forever
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>tfw /Who/ - Hybrid Edition where the Doctor is half human on his mother's side, River Song is a human turned gallifreyan, Susan is 1/4 gallifreyan and Alex is 1/8 gallifreyan. Miranda Dawkins the president's daughter that the Doctor stole
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>>63375464
She gave up all her remaining regenerations to save the Doc in Let's Kill Hitler. She dies as normal River in Forest of the Dead, so no.
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>>63375304
I wish I had your strength.
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>>63375481
Who the fuck is Miranda Dawkins?
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>>63375458

Jack got to be in Lego Dimensions
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>>63375431
>Doctor and a companion will never crash a Sammy Hagar concert
>save the day
>get bitches
>and rock out with Sammy on stage
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>>63375483
Should have punched Rassilon in the face until he gave River another cycle.
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>>63375458
>He is a surprise character in the christmas special
I might actually forgive Moffat, a little
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>>63375207
If she needs to, she's already in the bathroom.
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>>63375458
busy with Arrow
which is funny, since Rory is now the main cast of Legends of Tomorrow
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>>63375483
Oh yea...that's right.
She probably had no regenerations between white baby and black girl

Amy and Rory seemed pretty cool with never having to raise their child (though I guess they liked her from being friends when she was black)
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>>63375090

You've basically said in one why David Tennant (and subsequently, Matt Smith's) inclusion was ultimately detrimental to Doctor Who for the show's long-haul.

Yes, it got a nice boost from having the young men in there for their years after Eccleston left, but now that we're back to an old man again ratings have diminished.

It shows overall that I just don't think Doctor Who was meant to be a show about a handsome, or at least charismatic young man taking girls on the trip of a life time, because that's now all they want.

Granted young Doctors weren't a new thing before Tennant, but there was a definite "appeal" that he brought that the show never really possessed before which resonated with women. Even McGann didn't really have this appeal because he was a bit too classical and romantic for modern girls.
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>>63375502
EU of EU of EU http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Miranda_Dawkins
Maybe Romana fits the bill but probably not since she is/was President.
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>>63375508
That would be OAP-abuse tho, just punch the General again.
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Threadly reminder.
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Who was Tasha Lem and how did she know how to fly the TARDIS?
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>>63375312
Seeing as how there was trade with India from mid 1500s and slaves were brought into England as indentured servants to avoid the no slaves in England law it's not impossible
There are lots of tales of Indians in Georgian England eg the guy who brought shampoo to England - a Muslim who is the reason why we go from people wearing wigs to actually showing their own hair
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So from what I gathered the time lords managed to return to the universe on their own?
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>>63375404

I like the idea of space muslims still being a thing just so diversity quotas are met. Specifically if they're Time Lord muslims.
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So is Clara and Ashildr time-travelling lesbians now?
What was the wiggle room line about?
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>>63375531
The young man was supposed to be the companion.
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>>63375455
Matrix is dead timelords
Before it was linked to all living timelords on gallifrey
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>>63375609
alien sex?
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>>63375562
Once again thank you Moffat for being a monumental cunt and taking a huge whopping shit on the ending of Day of the Doctor.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGdkjT8tb7w
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y83dilWeHf8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIler8iKMPE
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>>63375609
They have a room they wiggle around in.
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>>63375562
word up
they didn't resurrect him so he could be a beta
RTD did him justice
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>>63375625
>was
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>>63375628

The Matrix is part of the Amplified Panatropic Computer Network, or APC Net, which contains the biological imprints (or bio-data extracts) of all Time Lords as well as the memories of dead Time Lords, storing them in an extradimensional framework of trillions of electrochemical cells. It also receives input from sensors contained in the TARDIS time machines piloted by Time Lords. As a result, the Matrix is not only a record of the past but can actually predict the future as well. The amount of knowledge in the Matrix, though vast, is not complete, and can be tampered with if given the right amount of access. The unauthorised extraction of a Time Lord's bio-data from the Matrix is an offence tantamount to treason (Arc of Infinity).
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What was the point of the memory thing other than the misdirection and the twist that it was the doctor who couldn't remember and not Clara?

it wasn't a solution to the "hybrid problem"
They just can't hang out together or else they will destroy everything.
What would deleting memories achieve?
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>>63375653
>Moffat leaves
>first episode under new showrunner
>Doctor wakes up
>How long have I been dreaming?

MOFFAT BTFO
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>>63375609
Clara is functionally immortal (she has no life signs) and won't age.
So she can go back to gallifrey any time she wants and be exactly the same so she can die by getting hit by the Raven.

That's the wiggle room
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>>63375481
That doesn't make sense
If Susan is 1/4 her parents must she been 1/2 and and one full human and so the doctor fucked a human
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>>63375609
I know you're joking but ill explain anyway: The "wiggle room" means they have all the time in the world in between when they started to travel, to when Clara finally decides to go back to Galiffrey to get put back where she's supposed to die
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>>63375400
Moffat did say he wrote it like it was his last episode so he might have wanted to leave something to be remembered by
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>PUT OUT THE BEST EPISODE OF DOCTOR WHO SINCE THE REVIVAL
>ONE WEEK LATER PUT OUT THE WORST

BRAVO MOFFAT
R
A
V
O

M
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F
A
T
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>>63375734
So why did she and the Doctor have to split up at all?
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>>63375625

Also very true. I miss Jamie McCrimmon.
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>>63375717
>looks in a mirror
>Fantastic!
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So what exactly are they going to do with Gallifrey now?
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>>63375090
Why did regenerating put eyeshadow on him/her
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Meanwhile in another universe...

William Hartnell (1963-1966)
Patrick Troughton (1966-1969)
Jon Pertwee (1970-1974)
Tom Baker (1974-1981)
Peter Davison (1982-1984)
Colin Baker (1984-1986)
Sylvester McCoy (1987-1991)
Hugh Grant (1991-1994)
Paul McGann (1995-1999)
John Hurt (2000-2004)
Christopher Eccleston (2005)
David Tennant (2005-2010)
Matt Smith (2010-2013)
Peter Capaldi (2013-2018)
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>>63375759
uuuhm...erm...t-the hybrid...uhm...h-hey look at that it's rory and amy's diner! from that one episode!
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>>63375759

Cause apparently the Time Lords will track her throughout space and time and put her back where she's supposed to die because it's a fixed point in time.

Allegedly if she doesn't get put back time get's fucked, but it didn't happen so... There ya go.
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>>63375759
Because they were a destructive force. The Doctor would do anything to save Clala, even stand in the ruins of Gallifrey.
They had to be apart.
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>>63375759
what >>63375785 said.
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>>63375443
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Fuck it

Just make Mark Gatiss showrunner

He couldn't possibly be any fucking worse
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>>63375481
THIS IS THE ABOMINATION!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NJN5Ru4RA
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>>63375785
That makes no sense
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>>63375808
>Mark Gatiss
>Can't make it worse

top kek my son
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>>63375779
That would have been GOAT.
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>>63375815
Yeah but isn't it tragic and also leaves her free for future fanservice?
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>>63375808
>post yfw when gatiss brings back the pure historical episodes
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>>63375795
He did save Clara, and if she didn't die time was over or some shit, so he needed to forget her. Then she didn't die anyway.

It's stupid.
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>THE TIME LORDS ARE BACK
>GALLIFREY IS BACK IN THE UNIVERSE
>THE DOCTOR EXILES RASSILON AND BECOMES LORD PRESIDENT OF THE TIME LORDS
>LITERALLY THE BIGGEST BOMBSHELLS THAT COULD BE DROPPED IN NUWHO

>AND ALL OF THIS IS PUT ON THE BACKBURNER SO MOFFAT CAN WANK ABOUT HOW GREAT CLARA IS THEN GIVE HER HER OWN TARDIS

WHAT THE

LITERAL

FUCK

DID I JUST WATCH
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>big emphasis on clala's black boyfriend previous season
>she forgets all about him
kek
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wew lads i got gifted leddit gold for posting a simple screencap am i cool now?
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>>63375808
Honestly I want him to have a go at it, but only as long as he continue write a single episode each year and let someone else handle the writing of the rest
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>>63375668

The doctor is a clingy fuck and is aware of this, but he is also aware of how dangerous this apparently is
wiping one of their memories is how he can ensure the friendship ends
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>>63375860


10 years of build up of Gallifrey

The Doctor finally lands on him home planet

And nothing happens
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>>63375779
>Christopher Eccleston (2005)
Kek, even in an other universe he'd still do only one series.
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>>63375808
Just give it to Briggs, annex the TV show in the name of the Big Finish Empire.
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>>63375826
Fuck off tripcunt
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>>63375864
May be she'll go try to save home and keep fracturing time till The Doctor has to stop her in series 11
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Hey, at least Danny Pink didn't return!
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>>63375233
>>63375296

Clara is Moffat version of Rose. I didn't like how IMPORTANT Rose was. She was in one Tennant series, but he cried over her for three more years.
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>>63375909
Atleast Capaldi wont even remember Clara
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>>63375808
>>63375886
You all know what the real solution is.
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>And does Alex Kingston's return herald a role as full-time companion?
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>>63375851
Radical!
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>>63375907
>implying she won't force the Time Lords to extract him just before he dies just like the Doctor did with Clara
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>You now realize that the Tardis has a toliet thats bigger on the inside then it is on the outside
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>>63375779
>Christopher Eccleston (2005)
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>>63375631
I hate Moffat so much. That was such a great speech and then he just shits all over it and the whole Gallifrey plot.
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>>63375924
Luckyyyy.
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>>63375805
>tfw both Capaldi and McGann are River's bulls as Teninch and Smoth jack off in the corner

Things are looking up for old JUST McGann there.
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Moffat just can't write proper companion departures.
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>Be Clara
>Hear about doctor taking the "long way round" back to gallifrey via 4.5 billion years of torture
>Act horrified
>Half an hour later
>Make jokes about going the "long way round" to gallifrey with your BFF
Bitch.
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>>63375994
capaldi can't keep it hard m8
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>>63375758
Not only that. This week's episode retroactively made last week's even worse.
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>>63375924
Holyfuckingshit
Why can't the audience forget her?
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>>63375878
He found clara though. And he knows how she looks. and he knows she is one of his best friends.

All he got for wiping his memory is a loss of certain things like her laugh.
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I'm so fucking mad

You don't understand how mad that fucking shit excuse for an episode made me

And I thought Wedding of River Song was bad

Jesus fucking christ Moffat how about you try to write decent fucking scripts instead of getting your fanfiction on the screen

I'm done

The only Doctor Who media I will be consuming now is the Big Finish audios since they're actually fucking worth the time
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So, is Clara stuck with that tatoo?
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>>63375779
>Christopher Eccleston (2005)
It hurts.
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>>63375871
Fuck off back to reddit.
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Is this season worth a watch?
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Why couldn't Clara just die?

Companions have died before. The Doctor deals with it.

What is so fucking special about Clara that the Doctor is willing to literally destroy all of time to save her?

>>63376085
No
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>>63375090
This.
Tumblrinas only liked Doctor Who when the doctor was a young and handsome guy. Many of them bitched on doctor who facebook page because Capaldi is "too old"
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>>63376041
She got pilled a fraction of a second before she died she's the same Clara and she's still meant to die by the raven.

>>63376085
Yes.
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>>63375562
never really knew what "jobbing" meant until I saw what happened with this episode
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>>63376085
Yes. If you have shit taste you will enjoy it. If you have good taste you will kill yourself.
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Why were there Americans on Gallifrey?
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>>63375213
>Imagine if it were the other way around and a female to male timelord said something along the lines of "finally I am not a slave to my emotions anymore. Now I can get shit done."
You want the show to be cancelled m8?
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Am I the only one who thought the Doctor was about to say Clara is a Time Lady when he told her she learnt not to hear her heartbeat?
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>>63375731
doctor banged riversong
then she takes his kids backwards in time to Hartnell Doctor...and gives him the kids who then have susan
his kids die (?!?!) and then he takes susan on his adventures as 1st doctor
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>>63376155
how did they achieve time travel but still have essentially homeless people
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>>63376155
What exactly was that soup the lady gave the Doctor? Was it just regular tomato soup or did it have some super Gallifreyan time spice?
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>>63376085

This is day/who/, don't pay too much attention to negativity

you should watch this series
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>>63375779

Why couldn't Colin Baker get a better run in this parallel universe?
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>>63376172
>caring about low-born peasants
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>>63376161

I thought the same thing
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>>63376195
Exactly
why haven't they shipped them to some planet or timeline where they can be with their people

why even have them there
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>>63376085
No and slap anyone you see actually watching this shit.
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Am I the only one that is still jerking off to the awesomnes of the Heaven sent? I mean it was the rings the 12 doctor's rings of akhaten.It is easly my favorite episode so far.
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>>63376161
yeah
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>>63376120
I just realized that there is not a single good episode in this season, just some "not so bad" ones and some bad ones.
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>>63376161
Nope. I thought they were headed in that direction. Also, when there were four knocks on the door of the stolen TARDIS, and the Doctor said to Clara that he had to go out alone...I really thought he was going to talk with the McGann and Tennant Sliders :(.
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>>63376195

Why did the entire village turn out to watch the Doctor eat soup?
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Becuase its 2015
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The worst thing about all this is I knew it was coming.

I was the anon after Face the Raven saying there was no way Moffat would allow another person to write his characters departure.

I wanted to be wrong, I hope so much I was wrong.

But even though I knew I would be right i never ever expected the abomination of an episode I watched last night.

It was the worst episode of NuWho I have ever seen, worse than Love and Monsters, worse than In the Forest of the Night and yes worse than Fear Her.

I was an incoherent mess of an episode that wasted so a barn full of potential to spend 45 minutes wanking over a companion who would have been better served if she'd died two episodes before.
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>>63376221
Last episode was pretty decent. Of course it was ruined by this week's episode.
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I hope the War Doctor Boxset makes up for this disappointing finale.
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>>63375851
I'd like one historical drama

>companion wants to see some historical event
>they go there
>some weird stuff is going on
>doctor keeps on thinking its aliens
>turns out to just be normal humans doing something
the humor can be the doctor always assuming its an alien invasion of some sort.
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Soup lady mom or just some relative/friend?
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>>63376085
No.
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Can we all just agree that anything after the second doctor is not canon?
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Do you guys realise they could have scrapped Sleep No More and we could have Face the Raven as Episode 9, Heaven Sent as Episode 10, Episode 11 & 12 are the Gallifrey two-parter(maybe 11 could have been the one on Gallifrey and 12 the shifty OTP tumblr fanfic)
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>>63376183
>Gallifreyan time spice
>Not taking the joke and saying it was laced with Thyme
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>>63376221
Heaven Sent was GOAT and Face the Raven was very good, if you don't consider the fct that Hell Bent retroactlvely ruined them both.
I agree about the rest.
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>>63376257
Yeah Heaven Sent was my favorite. I like episodes with minimal cast though so I have a bias.
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>>63376113
FUCK OFF YOU APOLOGIST TRIPCUNT
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>>63376280
I think she was the woman from the young doctor scene in Listen
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>>63376291

Take your 'le quirky bow-tie' doctor back to Reddit.
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>>63375994

Everyone's wanting the McGann dick.
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>>63376085
Depends on how often you tell other people to check their privilege.
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I don't get clara's collar under her sweater...it buttoned up on the front and the back?
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>>63376253
>I was an incoherent mess of an episode that wasted so a barn full of potential to spend 45 minutes wanking over a companion who would have been better served if she'd died two episodes before.

It would have been better if she had left at the end of Death in Heaven or Last Christmas, both were a million times better departures for her.
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>>63376085
This is a retard >>63376184
Ignore everything they say, especially about day /who/ and night /who/.
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One of the three founders of Time Lord society, one of the most powerful Time Lords, specifically revived to lead the Time Lords during the war, only to then go fucking mental and basically Joseph Mengele'd his way through the fucking Time War (Ever wondered why the John Simm Master was basically the Joker with lightning and sp00py skeleton? Aside from Lore-Pissing, FUCKING RASSILON)

And they introduce, and get rid of him like he was fucking nothing. I'm offended that they did fuck all with him, I feel sorry for Donald Sumpter who is a good actor, yet fucking used and discarded in a heartbeat, the entire fucking High Council got fucking evicted too? Really? The Doctor went from War Hero to the leader of a fucking Military Coup in four fucking seconds? Glad to see that went over so many heads and nobody on the entire fucking planet gave two shits about the entirety of Gallifrey's Government getting thrown out like a used johnny, And as [Friend] stated, the Time Lords were used solely to find a loophole for Clara's death which allows her to effectively live forever. Fucking top form Moffat, can't even kill your special snowflake. Which is astounding honestly, the death she had was a legit good death, and still this happened.
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>>63376303
>Face the Raven
I thought the conclusion was good; clara dying because of being herself (reckless) and it being a pretty heartfelt goodbye. Rest of it is really mediocre and I don't like "Me".
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Rate series 9.

The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 7/10
Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 8/10
The Girl Who Died: 4/10
The Woman Who Lived: 7/10
The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 6/10
Sleep No More: 6/10
Face The Raven: 8/10
Heaven Sent: 10/10
Hell Bent: 5/10
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>>63376247
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>>63376235
You're pathetic.
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>>63376247

That is the face of a man that knows what he's about to become and is scared.

Ken Bones was scared, Moffat.

HE WAS SCARED.
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>>63376338
(All copy-pasted from a rant on facebook)


Although aside from all that? Not many problems with the series finale. It wasn't as big and huge as the others, but hey, the last big and huge ending we had was Death In Heaven, and that was a sack of shit, whereas this episode was more grounded and more about just wrapping up a companion story. Which begs the question as to why that needs Gallifrey?

Oh yeah. What I said above. Never mind.

Also, I think it might be just cause the existence of Clara, and the fact I know she will die has caused me to relax, but her having her own TARDIS... Actually no, I still don't like that. Not cause it's her, I wouldn't like the idea of ANY companion getting their own TARDIS, save for Susan or Romana, and that's cause they're fucking Time Ladies, that's allowed for them. The whole idea of a companion leaving is surely that they have to sacrifice all the joys and wonders of time and space, or choose to as they have become better people (Or sometimes The Doctor leaves them in Aberdeen and just goes. lol.) But if anything, Clara having a TARDIS shows that she's not progressed as a character, she never will progress as a character, and ultimately, she is a shallow as fuck character, as she has literally nothing but The Doctor and the TARDIS. It's another link in the chain of her being a special fucking snowflake. And before someone brings up the Bad Wolf thing with Rose, or the Doctor-Donna thing, with Rose, she ended up fucked by the end of her storyline (She got the Human Ten, but he probably died) and Donna forgot everything to stop her from dying, with Clara, the Doctor forgot her, and that was sad for her, but bitch got a TARDIS.
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>>63376392
I don't feel that any companion leaving should be that good, you're leaving a life of adventure and wonder, of course leaving will suck. I think the best it should get is when Martha left, i.e. she left for her own reasons, as she felt she was done with the journey, with Clara? Let's face it, she basically has lost nothing. Eventually she still has to die, but until she actually goes to that point, she is alive forever, doing anything she wants. What makes her so special that she gets her own TARDIS? Nothing, it's clearly just Moffat trying to make her this ultimate special snowflake, fucking with lore and the Doctor's history to make all of this happen. The only thing I'm truly thankful of is the fact that she is gone, and probably will be gone for a long time. Gallifrey wasted, Rassilon treated like nothing, and Clara's ending was just a case of sunshine and fucking rainbows because no bad things are ever allowed to happen to the messiah. Time will tell on the episode, but if they don't have series 10 be all about Rassilon having a full-on hate crusade against The Doctor and all those who betrayed him, gonna be mad. Time Lord Civil War or bust.
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>>63376346
>The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 6/10
>Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 6/10
>The Girl Who Died: 5/10
>The Woman Who Lived: 3/10
>The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 2/10
>Sleep No More: 5/10
>Face The Raven: 5/10
>Heaven Sent: 7/10
>Hell Bent: 2/10
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>>63376338
the only time Time Lords were good was in Genesis of Daleks

>super powerful
>bad ass
>mysterious
>boss the doctor around
>do whatever they want

I don't like when they all need the doctor to save their butts or that they come off as regular humans with cooler technology.
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>>63376294
Fuck, you're right.
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>>63374887
As much as people hate the white man to black woman regeneration, just remember that he was a minor character in one episode. This is basically the price we have to pay to stop the Doctor becoming a lesbian disabled black woman. Moffat has to throw the SJWs a few scraps here and there to calm them down and relieve any serious pressure about having a female Doctor.
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>>63376421
>ratings than 3/10
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>>63376247

>how do you cope with all that ego

You'd think the smug bitch would know because as she said, that last body was a man.

>The only time I've been a white person, that last body. Dear Lord, how do you cope with all that privilege?
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>>63376383
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>>63376431

Do you mean The War Games?

You see one Time Lord in Genesis who tells the Doctor what his mission is.
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>next companion is a shape shifting penguin
>voiced by colin baker

screencap this. My dad works for BBC
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>>63376438
you don't understand sjws. Now they have a precedent they can refer to and demand a gay muslim gender fluid doctor.
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>>63376477
Will he be using that New York accent from The Maltese Penguin?
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So is this the worst and most insulting season finale of the revival yet?

Because I think it is.
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>>63376346
The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 4/10
Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 6/10
The Girl Who Died: 7/10
The Woman Who Lived: 6/10
The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 7/10
Sleep No More: 5/10
Face The Raven: 8/10
Heaven Sent: 10/10
Hell Bent: 1/10
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>>63376431
As the last stage of my post states here
>>63376410
I'm hoping this leads into utilising the Time Lords as a buncha assholes who fuck with The Doctor for ages, either through the Civil War, or having the next companion be a Time Lady who is forced on The Doctor and acts as a Handler who contacts Gallifrey and occasionally sabotages The Doctor's plans to make him do something that will benefit the High Council.
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>>63376392
>>63376410
Sums it up
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Clara is the worst character in this shows existence. The finale and Gallifrey wasted so Moffat could give his favorite fanfic character the most fanfic ending possible.

I'm so mad at this outcome. She already had a proper ending. 10 years waiting for Gallifrey and it's wasted on shitty ass Clara.
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>>63375528
and River is Laurel and Sara's mum. Which cast member from DW will migrate over next?
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>>63376495
I would say Journeys end is on the same level in some regard.
But this one actually manage to pass it
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>The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 7/10
>Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 7/10
>The Girl Who Died: 5/10
>The Woman Who Lived: 7/10
>The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 4/10
>Sleep No More: 3/10
>Face The Raven: 8/10
>Heaven Sent: 10/10
>Hell Bent: 8/10
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>>63376459
they were good in war games too
but i liked how they were portrayed in the first ten minutes of genesis

The doctor complains about them stopping his teleportation thing (can't recall ...I saw it a long time ago)

>we mastered this technology when the universe was half its present size

It makes them seem mysterious and even the Doctor is surprised by this (he said its dangerous to do it).

I'd like to see that kind of Time Lord brought back...instead of Rassilion the God of time lords being made to look foolish in the front of his armed guards.
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>breaks his own rules to save Clala
>just lets his own wife be in some shitty heaven place
>no idea where the fuck his own granddaughter is

Is the Doctor autistic? Why are his priorities so screwed?
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>The 9th Doctor was haunted by his decision to destroy Gallifrey to save everyone else.
>12th Doctor finally finds Gallifrey, gives no fucks about it.

Fuck this show.
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Instead of Rassilon, it should have been some other guy who took over after Rassilon and thought he knew better.
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>>63376495

I would say so. Nothing really happened of note apart from Rassilon now being banished from his own planet because a couple soldiers put down their guns, soldiers that he could have just wasted with his power glove.

And even that was clunky and ignored continuity.

I'm just happy Clara is finally gone, to be honest. I don't hate her, I'm just so sick of these super-companions and she was particularly abusive with it.
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>>63376541
Filming Journey's end was probably when Teninch decided it was time to go.
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The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 8/10
Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 8/10
The Girl Who Died: 6/10
The Woman Who Lived: 6/10
The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 8/10
Sleep No More: 2/10
Face The Raven: 8/10
Heaven Sent: 10/10
Hell Bent: CRAP/10
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>>63376346
>The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 1/10
>Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 4/10
>The Girl Who Died: 1/10
>The Woman Who Lived: 2/10
>The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 3/10
>Sleep No More: 5/10
>Face The Raven: 4/10
>Heaven Sent: 7/10
>Hell Bent: 1/10

WORST SERIES EVER
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>>63376514
I want them to have a Celestial Intervention Agent working for them who shows up occasionally and the doctor dislikes him.
He's basically James Bond/Ace Rimmer/ Newman (from seinfeld)

>episode starts
>doctor already in a lot of danger about to be killed
>CIA shows up and saves the day in a few seconds
>oh hello, newman

He basically shows up the doctor and he can't stand him. Would be played mainly for laughs but would show the Time Lords to not being largely incompetent idiots
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>>63376591
at least RTD left saving the entire universe for season finales
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>>63376575
remember that time she walked into his timestream and his entire life was retconned to the point where she told him to nick the faulty TARDIS, and was basically responsile for saving him at almost every point of his life
I remember, and I got cancer from it.

>>63376591
I'll be honest, been a while since I seen the episode, what exactly happened that was so awful with it?
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>>63376563
Actually this is a good point. He doesn't even really give a shit about those peasants.

Why couldn't have there be one Time Lord that was his mate there. Nobody special, just some average guy that's like 'well shit, he's finally back'.
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>>63376574
I felt they should have sayed Rassilon returned to his tomb
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Get bent.
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The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 4/10
Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 5/10
The Girl Who Died: 3/10
The Woman Who Lived: 2/10
The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 3/10
Sleep No More: 3/10
Face The Raven: 2/10
>Heaven Sent: 6/10
>Hell Bent: 0/10
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>>63376633
Drax would have been nice.
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>>63376624
Also pretty good. Regardless, I want the Time Lords to fuck with him more. Or better yet, have the series roll on with the new companion as if she's any other companion, then reveal she's effectivley betraying him to the new High Council or even Rassilon
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>>63376550
I think he knew where is granddaugher is.

Maybe she was on her last regeneration and wanted her to have a long happy life without him (knowing if she stayed with him she would have died younger)

I'd still like her to show up though
>doctor gets out of his tardis
>sees some wacky stuff going on
>a chinese guy comes up and says "hi gramps, long time no see"
> "Susan????"
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>Most Two Parters I've just rated as stories for conveniences sake
The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 7/10
Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 7/10
The Girl Who Died/The Woman Who Lived: 5/10
The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 7/10
Sleep No More: 2/10
Face The Raven: 7/10
Heaven Sent: 8/10
Hell Bent: 4/10
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>>63376663
lkmeako
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>http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Hell_Bent_(TV_story)
>Sometime between the filming of Face the Raven and Hell Bent, Maisie Williams got a nose piercing, which meant that between the 21st century and the end of the universe, Ashildr got her nose pierced.
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>>63376672
maybe a time lord could...meddle with him...a monk of some sort.
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>>63374887
Can someone tell me what just happened? I just saw the episode and I'm speechless. Clala and Me get their own Tardis. Wtf is up with that.

Also Gallifrey not even being the central focus. What a waste of a return of Gallifrey and Rassilon. Your opinions?
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The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar: 4/10
Under The Lake/Before The Flood: 6/10
The Girl Who Died: 2/10
The Woman Who Lived: 2/10
The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion: 3/10
Sleep No More: 3/10
Face The Raven: 1/10
Heaven Sent: 7/10
Hell Bent: 2/10
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So uh

Romana was Lady President of Gallifrey.

She was deposed by Rassilon after he was resurrected during the Time War.

But where is she?

She didn't die. She should have still been active in politics, just not the leader.

Why wasn't she even mentioned?
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>>63376687
I don't know why I'm laughing at this.
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>>63376719

Locked up in Rassilon's sex dungeon.
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>>63376632
I actually didn't mind it, but From Tennants perspective it was probably a wake up call that the show was doing nothing for him anymore. It was a very lazy and overblown story.
Actually kind of a perfect precursor to Moffat
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I really really thought the Doctor was fucking around with Clara, pretending not to remember so she could leave.
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>>63376608
Good taste.
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>>63376707
YES LAWD, MONK FO' DAYS NIGGA!
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>episode is called Hell Bent
>Doctor just breaks a time rule and shoots a guy that he knew wasn't going to die
>doesn't even snap Me's neck

I'm disappointed. I wanted more of 12's rage.
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so
why did they capture him to ask about the hybrid when he made it up just so they would capture him or something to save clara but he wouldnt need to if he hadnt made it up? what?

how did they get his old tardis to the desert without the paint falling off?

why did they need to forget each other again?

spinoff when?
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hi guys i made a doctor who original character can you please look at her and tell me what you think?

her name is clara oswald and she's a pretty young adult who is a teacher but also a romantic lover of a black man (because she is progressive) but she's actually the guardian angel of the doctor with the power to appear at any place in the universe and protect him when he is in danger
also she has very smart and clever and also can fly the tardis and is able to say anything to get herself out of a bad situation.
she is also immortal because she died but then the doctor when back in time and saved her before she died but because she was meant to die and didn't she can now no longer die
also she has her own tardis and her companion is an immortal viking ninja

what do you think? please give me feedback.
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>>63376633

It's like the Doctor isn't even from Gallifrey. Like this was just some random planet he had use of to bring Clara back.

The emotion in 9's voice when he talks about what he had to do in the Time War is heart-breaking. And now that Gallifrey is back, there's absolutely no payoff. It's ridiculous.
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>>63376663

Pretty good joke.
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>>63376719
Cause Moffat is a fucking hack who doesn't give a shit about continuity. Oh here is Gallifrey'so triumphant, so many questions ready to be answered.... wait what where's Gallifrey? Clala'so back? Me? THEY GET THEIR OWN TARDIS?. Fuck Moffat
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>>63376668
He looks like one of those guys who knows all the regulars at a pub, but is rarely seen, and always has a good laugh with everyone. Drax is a cool nigga
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>>63376303
This guy gets it.
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>>63376801
give it a spinoff/10
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>>63376801
Do you picture yourself as her? I can't say I'd blame you, I'd kill to live with that arse getting ravaged by the Capaldick.
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