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One More Day Till The Moffucking Edition
>Also: Timelords can't poop.

>>63299063 (last on the /who/ channel)
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First for not minding Clara becoming a Time Lord or any other mythos change.
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Second for raping canon
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I SERIOUSLY hope Moffat doesn't destroy/banish/lock Gallifrey away again/for good. It would be extremely poor writing
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>>63312365
That's happening, Clala Time Lord is happening and new TARDIS is happening.

Merry fucking Chrismas

Love

S.M
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>>63312365
s10 is looking to be another soft reboot so doubt were getting more gallifrey shenanigans
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>>63312460
I don't care about Time-Lady Clara, actually. I just don't want to see Gallifrey fucking destroyed again or locked in Uncle Tom's-ass-pocket-dimension or some other shit
I'd prefer Clara to stay dead since i really liked her hending in "Face the raven", yeah
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>>63312552
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>>63312365
Reviews are indicating Gallifrey becomes an after thought by the middle of the story
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>>63312191
Ashildr = The Oracle ? yes no? Or the 'Hybrid' as Capaldi said 'The Hybrid is me'

Also, speculation as to what the hybrid really is?
Doubt it'll be a timelord/dalek half-breed.
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Tomorrow will be fun, seeing all the bullshit people come up with just so they can say how bad the episode was etc.
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>>63312685
They're probably going with human as a great warrior race shtick
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>>63312604
I forgot how short his hair was in s8
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I don't mind if they lock away gallifrey again. Just leave it open long enough for the Monk. The Rani. Drax. etc to get out and cause mayhem.
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>>63312793
looks so much better now
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>>63312903
agree
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oh yeah, BTFO to the faggots who flamed me when I said that is the same barn as DOTD. It is confirmed now. ..|..
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I wonder if the Visionary chick who foresaw Gallifrey falling is now sane or at least more level headed, unless she now sees Gallifrey falling to the hybrid. Think they'll even mention her?
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>>63313004
It was pretty fucking obvious, same as the one in Listen.
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>>63313047
Literally Who?
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How long does BigFinish take to send CDs? I bought them on Monday and haven't even received a delivery notification.
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>>63313047
the Timelady with all the weird markings from TEoT?
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>>63313089
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I have been busy for the past few days, but I want to thank Cloister and Belle for the book.
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>>63313133
Yes >>63313148
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>>63313118
It's so fucking slow I guess they only have a small team. Takes about a week.

Least you get a download.
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>>63313004
>getting trolled this hard
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>>63313118
It depends on where it's being shipped to. I live on the west coast of the US and it takes about two weeks (10 business days) for delivery, if it isn't a busy time for them. Most of the time I don't get an email telling me that my CDs have been dispatched.
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>Steven Moffat. The Who executive producer has told EW that the season-ender — entitled “Hell Bent” — will leave viewers “hopefully satisfied, and pleased, and a tiny bit devastated. It’s pretty emotional stuff. We get quite dark. It’s quite a journey.”

>Moffat also praised director Rachel Talalay (Tank Girl) who oversaw the finale and last week’s episode “Heaven Sent,” a solo showcase for the skills of both the Doctor and actor Peter Capaldi. “[‘Heaven Sent’] is one of the strangest, and most atmospheric, and creepiest episodes that we’ve done,” said the showrunner. “And then, in episode 12, we’re in a huge, epic, big-scale Star Wars world. She’s got a tremendous range as a director, covering all of that.”

>Moffat, however, refused to address the widespread speculation that Coleman’s Clara will feature in this Saturday’s adventure. “I’m not talking about that, sorry!” he said.
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>>63313337
>refused to address the widespread speculation that Coleman’s Clara will feature in this Saturday’s adventure
That's that confirmed then.
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>>63313337
Killing someone and bringing them back two episodes later is just tacky. no wonder companion stories have the emotional depth of a cup of tea.
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>>63312365
I seriously hope they won't bring it back.
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>>63313515
that's been a thing since rose m8
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>>63313337
>Meaningless deaths and lacking in jeopardy

The sentence that will bane reviews of Moffats tenure as showrunner
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>>63313169
Enjoy! Merry Christmas!
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Here's what's Moffat is scared of having changed.

When the Doctor was young, when he looked into the Untempered Schism, he saw Clara telling him: "Run, run you clever boy and remember". That's it. Literally. No big deal, really.
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>>63313608
(((flapping intensifies)))
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>>63313744
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8 out of 100 which is really only 8% rather than the initially implied 80% (which would have been the customary 8/10) so in reality it's actually quite poor bate
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>>63313604
that's not a moffat thing
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>>63313744
>That's it. Literally. No big deal, really.
It's fucking retarded is what it is.
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>>63313825
delusional Moffag detected
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>>63313777
>mfw when turning my blue light for autism
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>>63313835
Well it IS written by Moffat.
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>Confirmed spoiler
Clara is the Other
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>>63313744
That shit wouldn't surprise me.
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>>63313084
>>63313239
No, people where legit going apeshit saying it's completely different.
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still over a day til the finale
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>>63314056
>people where legit going apeshit
>I was trolled to the point of being triggered
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Honestly, the over-the-shoulder shot from the Hell Bent preview is fucking awful.
Rachel has been one of the best directors the show has ever had(and I can't stop thinking about all the Gallifrey CGI), but that shot belongs to dramas, not Doctor Who.
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Gift arrived, thank you so much anon!
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Saw Jenna out in London today. She don't look too good now.
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>>63313533
>implying rose came back 2 episodes later or even in the same series she left
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>>63313533
Rose didn't die?
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How many people have properly died, for good, in Moffat episodes?
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>>63313744
Oh, god, and 10 did say when he looked into it he ran away and that he never stopped running.

MOFFAT!!!
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We can at least all agree that the finale is going to shit the bed like literally every other single one.
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>>63314221
But Jenna didn't leave. We know she's in the finale. DWM told us.
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>>63314312
Except TPO/TBB.
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>>63314320
That first anon said that killing someone and bringing them back two episodes later is tacky, you replied that that's been a thing since Rose, except as I pointed out, Rose didn't die and come back 2 episodes later, didn't even come back in the same or next series.
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>>63314369
Series 5 River is best River.
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>>63314421
No, just no
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>>63314400
I wasn't OP though.
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>>63314438
Yes it is, sweetie.
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>>63314446
Then you're response means nothing since the argument is not about whether Jenna the actress is leaving or not or us knowing if she's in the finale or not. It's about it being tacky that a character dies then bringing them back two episodes later, which only applies to Clara and not Rose unlike that anon's retort that it started with Rose
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>>63314486
>melty_face_grandma.jpg
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>>63314528
Not OP nor the original OP but who cares anyway?
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>>63314486
No, series 4 River is best, before they ruined her with too much flirting, attempts at being sexy, and "spoilers"
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This is the new companion. Didn't think Moffat would do it but he did.
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>>63314568
Evidently you do since you're responding
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>>63314176
Which shot are you talking about?
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>>63312365
>It would be extremely poor writing

For you.
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>>63313047
I don't think Moffat would address such a minor character, but you never know. The Sisterhood of Karn is involved she might have something to do with them.
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This song will be the new opening titles after what happens in Hell Bent.

https://youtu.be/XZVpR3Pk-r8
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Hell Bent is going to be so fucking shit, I can feel it in my bones
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>>63314684
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The Doctor tells Clara that he once loved her in Hell Bent
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I think that Missy is a liar. She can't be the master. The master died.
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>>63314176
Why do you say that? I don't understand your reasoning. Why is it better suited to a drama than Doctor Who? Isn't Doctor Who a drama to some extent anyway?

It seems like an odd thing to be picky about, assuming you're on about the most obvious over-the-shoulder shot, where the General's back is to the camera.

I think that the way Clara's death was filmed in Face the Raven is much more worthy of criticism.
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>>63314569
that was the only time I tolerated her.
>>63314858
I think it's a rule that in this season, you have a decent to good episode and then you follow it with a shit episode.
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>>63314962
The Master lives, but he isn't Missy, Missy is actually Rassilon
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>>63314858
I know right. Its gonna be a mess.
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River got a sonic cheese slicer.
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I just listened to this.

I liked it, but there were two things that there might have been better left out:

1. Was it really necessary to insert an alternative/correction/retcon to the Season 6B theory? I think it was unnecessary and a little forced

2. Male to female regeneration? really? That felt forced into a 60's context story in order to gain some cred or something

I don't know, I might be a little bitter about this, have you listened to it yet? What did you think?
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>>63315433
She should just stay in the library.
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>>63315433
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When is Missy coming back

All I want from this show is for Missy to come back
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>>63314740
incredible
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>>63315608
Series 10 probably.
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>>63315436
I didn't even realise Troughton Early Adventures had started being released.
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>>63315630
ehh yeah
whenever Series 10 turns out to be

even if they just do specials though, she's gotta be in one of those right?
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I feel like in a year or so Moffat will give us a companion so shitty that we will miss Clara
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>>63315436
I think first point is very true, no need to bend continuity further. 6b already was a fact. This story is several decades late.

I was ok with second. Didn't see it coming. Helped hide the twist and time shenanigans.
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>want to give up on my diet
>Can't I just lose? Just this once?! Easy. It would be easy. It would be so easy.

Sorry for the blog post but Heaven sent was actually incredibly motivational, an aspect I missed for a long while.
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>>63315436
How did they retcon 6B?
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>>63315720
that would have to be an extra shitty person.
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I like Rose, Martha, Donna, Amy & Rory, and Clara.
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So I'm going to the party and I'm gonna miss Hell Bent. Fuck me.
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>>63315436
I thought it was great. Definitely the best Troughton EA, probably the best EA so far period.

I agree that the Two Doctors reference was completely unneeded and only served to create further confusion on an issue that was already muddled up. Though the story doesn't go into much depth about it, so it can be handwaved away pretty easily.
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>>63315723
Yes, you're right, when you think about it they at the very least didn't throw it in your face, just used it as a tool to improve the story
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>>63315810
Then you are a better man then I. I don't like Rose or Clara.
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>>63315810
Me too. Donna and Amy are the best though.
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>>63315747
>How did they retcon [something]?
In the middle of this story Doctor and Jamie fuck off to have "Two Doctors" episode. And all other possible shit
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>>63315825
You can always watch it later.
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>>63315608
Fuck off
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>>63315747
2 and Jamie leave Victoria alone to get better and go to have some adventures together, it's said they were gone for weeks and had many adventures including The Two Doctors
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>>63315746
and this post in turn has motivated me to get on with my workout
thanks anon
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>>63315866
Yeah but I'm probably gonna get spoiled somehow, I'll go on Twitter without thinking and boom "OMG CLARA'S ALIVE OOOMFG PRAISE MOFFAT BUT BRING RTD BACK"
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>>63315810
Clara > Donna > Amy and Rory > Martha > Rose but I like them all
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqk63nx-sLE

>"The doctor has to make a life changing decision" - Peter Capaldi

Wonder what it is?
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>>63315942
Fuck Gallifrey or lose Clara.
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>>63315890
>>63315857
I'm ok with this, season 6B has always triggered my autism. I just don't like the idea that we never actually see the end of the Second Doctor's life
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>>63315959
>Fuck Gallifrey
Even the mighty Capaldick couldn't fuck them all without snapping in half.
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>>63315942
Destroy part of his life that is very important to him?
Probably not Gallifrey or Tardis but who knows.
Maybe he has to kill Clara again after ressurecting her 'cause time is bending like in series 6 with River so that's why she's a waitress or whatever.
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>>63315978
Well fuck Gallifrey up then.
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>>63315029
>TMA
>better than TWF
>invasion
>better than inversion
gr8 b8 m8
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>>63315851
>Amy
>one of the best

No. She's a bitch who tried to kuck Rory and shitted on him constantly while still flirting with the Doctor in front of him

>>63315941
>Clara > Donna

Fuck off of 4chan Jenna
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>>63315973
>>63315857
>>63315890
>>63315747
I've never got the "season 6b" autism.

The Doctor looked old because the actor who played him was old, not everything has to be in universe or you're left having to explain why the fourth Doctor was constantly drunk.
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>>63315639
>>63315723
>>63315747
>>63315840
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I'm glad to see the EAs, and 2 particularly, getting some love, 2 is my 3rd favorite doctor
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>>63315978
>implying
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>>63315973
You can see it in The Night Walkers
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>>63316004
>shitted
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>>63316004
stay mad bitch
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>>63316004
SHUT THE FUCK UP CUNT
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>>63315840
>the best Troughton EA, probably the best EA so far period
Totally agree with this, it was very very fun and 2 facing the Monk was great
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>>63312903
Looks too Pertwee IMO.
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>>63316098
pleb
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how old is this guy and why is he ranting autisticly about doctor who?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4GZZ_t7nE
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>>63312604
>>63312793
Looks like a butch lesbian here
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>>63316098
Nah, Pertwee was more grandma looking. Capaldi just has longer wavy hair now, not a big bouffant.
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>>63316150
>jewish

They sort of ran out of things to do after destroying western civilisation.
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>>63316036
I know, the scarecrow thing, but I meant on-screen. Troughton deserves that.
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>>63312191
more like, 'Doctor, who watches this shit?' amarite
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>>63316257
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>>63316257
of course you are
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>>63316257
You're not wrong. Heaven Sent was the only episode that actually impressed me.
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>>63316098
There's no such thing a "too Pertwee", only "not enough Pertwee".
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>>63316346
This,

There's only going to be one great and one good episode this series and we've already had them.
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>>63316386
preach it
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>>63316346
heaven sent is the only good doctor who episode
every other episode is shit
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I had a dream /who/, if we get the upcoming Perthrees then Hell Bent will be a GOAT episode.
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>>63316346
Capaldi has been my favorite doctor for at least a season and a half.

Despite those seasons being mostly terrible, in terms of plot/most of the writing quality.

Heaven Sent was finally an episode that really lived up to the quality of its lead actor, and I'd consider it to be in my top three of ALL Doctor Who episodes, ever. The fact that it was pretty much a solo character episode just makes it all the more amazing, really.
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>>63316461
I don't usually agree with bait but there it is. You could have cut out some of the bird stuff or the gallifrey stuff so the bar wasn't set so high for yourself in future, moffat.
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>>63316482
McGann confirmed in finale
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>>63316482
He seemed to pause before saying it, like he knew it was wrong.
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>>63316502
>Despite those seasons being mostly terrible, in terms of plot/most of the writing quality.
>implying
Its not GOAT but its better than watching other NuWho poop.
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>>63316605
Why is old who so much better than nuwho? Even 5/6's crap is better.
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Has there been any news about the Coal Hill spin off thing? Are Ian and Barbara confirmed?
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>there are people who think that Gallifrey should be gone because muh continuity is evil and muh Time Lords are a thing of the past
If you're reading, Just hear me out on this.
I think having the Time War in the background was a nice way to start the new series. It established some mystery in the Doctor's past, and helped to introduce concepts from the Classic series slowly rather than quickly. But.
Let's face it, Gallifrey couldn't possibly stay dead forever. Even the guy who blew it up couldn't resist bringing it back for some fireworks in The End of Time, and Moffat has done the same in The Day of the Doctor. Gallifrey was always going to return one day, and bringing it back for good is the only way the show can leave the whole Time War business behind its back. The concept of the Time War isn't serving any kind of purpose anymore, it's just this great big piece of continuity from ten years ago that's still casting its shadow on the show today, and the absence of Gallifrey and the Time Lords is now doing more to anchor the show to its past than their presence ever did in the Classic series.
If Gallifrey is back for good, the whole business can finally be wrapped up and left for Big Finish to explore further while the show moves on to new things.
Add to that the fact that we're hopefully going to see the last of River Song in the Christmas special and that the new companion is probably going to be a completely new character with no ongoing plot threads (the first one since Amy). Series 10 is shaping up to look like the first time Doctor Who can just move on with no past continuity to burden it since Rose.
And personally, I can't fucking wait for it. Please Moffat, bring back Gallifrey and give us a new start.
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>>63316502
I agree. I really feel like every episode Capaldi tries his hardest to get a good performance out of mediocre scripts. No matter how shit the episode, he never phones it in. He's a fucking committed Doctor.

And Heaven Sent showed what he can do with an actually good episode.
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>>63316710
This. I hope Moffat does Gallifrey. It'd be GOAT.
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>>63316710
I don't get all this Gallifrey shit, the Doctor hated going when it was active, constantly hated the Timelords' interference but now he wants them back, it's inconsistent.
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>>63316834
the doctor is lonely m8
besides its not like he loves them or anything, hes going to fuck their shit up in hell bent
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Ahead of the finale tomorrow

http://strawpoll.me/6177191
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>>63316871
Only because of what they did to him in Heaven sent, before then he loved them.


Also, talk me through the Doctor's memories, /who/, does he remember all 2 billion years? Was he just empathising with the 100 billion incarnations that faux died in the confession dial? Does the confession dial allow him to remember every incarnation now he's out?
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>>63316917
Matt seen here exactly one week before he started filming.

Will we ever see him from junior masterchef?
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>>63316710
>implying Moffat won't fuck Gallifrey up

He'll bootstrap paradox and timey wimey the show to shit and ruin the Time Lords like he ruined GI, the Silurians, Sontarans, Daleks, Silence, River and Master
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>>63316654
Doubtful. It's probable it's set in present day, when Ian and Barbara would be in their late 70s
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>>63316972
But the show is already shit since 2006
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>>63316972
>implying the daleks weren't ruined way before moffat
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>>63316917
here's least

http://strawpoll.me/6177274
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>>63316972
Daily reminder Daleks are all pacifists trapped inside shells that filter them continuously saying "I love you" into "exterminate"

One day I'm going to hook Terry Nation's grave up to a generator.
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>>63317032
>Daily reminder Daleks are all pacifists trapped inside shells that filter them continuously saying "I love you" into "exterminate"

What?
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>>63317022
I don't remember any of them, but I do remember Doomsday being particularly crappy.
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>>63317065
Moffat retconned the daleks making it that the dalek mutants are actually nice little squids and its the machines they are linked to that do all the hating
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>>63317065
Bravo moffat added a filter that makes it so everything inside a dalek shell that says "I love you" becomes "exterminate" that filter would not be necessary unless it was a regular occurence, therefore it must be, directly conflicting with Terry Nation's design for the daleks and the in universe lines said by Davros about the creation of the daleks.
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>>63317123
>>63317110
no m8, rewatch it
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>>63317180
I'd rather not, but as the other anon said, there would be no need for the filter if the daleks weren't compassionate
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>>63317180
>two people are wrong
>one person is right

Not usually how it goes, m80
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>>63317032

What? No, Anon... I really hope you're being deliberately obtuse.
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>>63317217
Objective reality is not defined by popular vote.
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>>63317017
>implying they were

At least when they showed up in RTD they always fucked people's shit up.

Dalek, Parting of the Ways, Doomsday, Daleks in Manhattan, Stolen Earth/Journey's End, they were huge threats and could fuck everything up.

Moffat's era, you get Victory of te Daleks, where they're shit and became power rangers, Big Bang, begging for mercy, Wedding of River Song, just one captured and getting btfo by 11, Asylum of the Daleks, weak and dependent on the Doctor even though they could apparently capture him easy as fuck but never kill him, Time of the Doctor, took 900 years to beat out the other factions, Into the Dalek, have an empire but Doctor doesn't care and retreading good Dalek with the Doctor again, TMA/TWF, now are okay with being hybridized with shit even though that'd make them impure and they're pure as fuck right then and there since Davros made them.
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>>63317304
Daily reminder Shona will never be a companion.
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>>63317304
i loved Shona.
Then i looked at the actress' Twitter.

She's a sjw.
A hardcore sjw.
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>>63317268
>>63317221
Quote from Genesis of the Daleks:

GHARMAN: Everybody is here, Davros.
DAVROS: The issues are simple and clear cut. I have given my life's work to the survival of our race. The travel machine I designed, the Dalek, will give the creature into which we will mutate its only possibility of continued existence.
GHARMAN: But you have deviated from that intention. You have introduced genetic changes that will alter the mutation into a creature without morals and without ethics.
DAVROS: I have introduced aggression, without which no race can survive.
GHARMAN: But aggression without a conscience.
DAVROS: History will show that cooperation between different species is impossible. One race must survive all others, and to do this it must dominate. Ruthlessly.
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>>63317354
Jenna must be too, to agree to be BLACKED on camera.
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>>63317370
yes but twf didn't make them pacifist
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>>63317268
Not that anon but don't forget that Into the Dalek also introduced some shit in the Dalek shell that filters out anything the Dalek experiences and that without the filtering, the Daleks become "good"
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>>63317406
Catherine Tate was twice BLACKED
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>>63317343
I do want her to be the next one.
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>>63317472
I don't really like Moffat because he piles up redundant lore, but maybe redundancy is a point?

Daleks are genetically modified to be evil, also cybernatically augmented to be evil and finally outfitted with wordfilter in case those two fail.

Davros sure likes his hatred.
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>>63317354

You can like a character but hate their actor. It's okay. Really.
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>>63317472
Genetics, the casing, that secondary electronic brain, each thing is there to make sure they keep hating. If you want to invent such a species wouldn't you use several ways to make sure?
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>>63317452
No, it installed a filter that stopped Daleks saying anything none aggressive, something that is already genetically removed from their kaled shells, making the filter pointless.
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>>63317598
Or as the casing doesn't need to understand the concept, why even program in such words?
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>>63317596
>If you want to invent such a species wouldn't you use several ways to make sure?

Not if one of the methods were already failsafe, the Kaled mutants are genetically modified to hate, and as they are the only intended occupiers of the mark 3 travel machines there is literally no point in putting a filter in there.
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>>63317514
Not that anon but wordfilter doesn't even make sense really, if the genetic and filter thing fail, the Dalek's words or thoughts getting turned into "exterminate" by the voice thing isn't gonna make the Dalek inside evil or bad again. And they can always open up the shell and presumably speak more clearly that way unless that's still through the wordfilter. Either way, workfilter won't make the thing evil or do evil things.

>>63317596
But genetics would be absolute anyway. If you literally have no capacity to feel certain things, you can't grow them. You can't magically grow a conscience. The experience filter even makes it seem like without it, the Dalek isn't evil or fucked up at all considering when it was damaged the Dalek turned "good".
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I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM
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>>63317646
The casing is just a casing, it's not sentient, it doesn't understand ANY words, even exterminate, the casing is a car with a gun on it controlled by a kaled mutant that had the "good" part of it's brain genetically removed so that it would never seek peace with other races and as such continue to expand.

It's like putting a word filter on a cat collar so the cat can't say bad words, but the cat doesn't speak anyway so it's redundant, a dalek would never say "i love you" so the filter is pointless.
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>>63317406
>>63317497
blacked?
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>>63317729
It would isolate them thus preventing them from defecting or starting a rebellion.
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>>63317768
Don't go down that mineshaft, friend, don't listen to any other reply to your post, trust me, you do not want to see because once you see you can never go back, just eat your mcdonalds and laugh at paul blart, forget it or you will regret it.
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>>63317771
But they already can rebel and turn against the others, it's happened before.
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>>63317304
>>63317509
>Shit Character from a shit special
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http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/hell-bent-hints-teasers-set-2-78719.htm
>“Classic. Look at the colour scheme”
New Tardis confirmed. Also, what the fuck are those numbers at the end?
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>>63317768
translation: 4chan being racist
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>>63317771
Daleks don't solve internal problems with suppression, they solve them through extermination, as seen with the civil war, if a dalek started saying "I love you" it would be shot as a traitor, there's less than no need to filter it out, both because the intent to say it wouldn't be there in the first place and the fact they gain nothing through suppressing it.
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>>63317969
>Also, what the fuck are those numbers at the end?
They always include ciphers like that to cover up the bigger spoilers. I sometimes have a go at deciphering myself but they're generally solved within minutes in the comments.
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Read in one spoiler-free review that one character from earlier in the series won't appear but their presence will very much be felt.

I bet it's Missy.
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>>63317969
IP address, leads to an exclusive video teaser

Looks GOAT
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If the Galifreyans can send a regeneration through the crack in the universe they can probably send a galifreyan. Missy could be any Galifreyan. Missy is either dead now, or teleported safely onto a T.A.R.D.I.S., or somewhere she could reach a T.A.R.D.I.S.
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>>63317744
Can daleks even speak without their casing? I thought it need it to speak through the psychic link.
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>>63318054
Most likely, probably in reference to how Rassilon, if he is still President, acts now, or in how whoever else is now President came to power
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>>63317969
>She will knock four times
Does this mean Missy still has the drums in her head and she's going to be the one bringing back Gallifrey, as Rassilon wanted her to do?
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>>63318152
no
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>>63318127
They have a dishevelled voice, as expected of a mutant blob that used to be humanoid, they use a microphone to amplify what they say that's inside the casing but the actual casing has no effect on what they say, see the end of Dalek for more.
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OMFG the thing Moffat was scared of changing is that Missy isn't the master
I've just had it confirmed by someone. They do say though that male to female regeneration is still possible by showing someone regenerate into a woman on screen. Missy is Clara 2, and her entire story comes full circle in a timeloop. She put herself with the doctor so he could get back to gallifrey to start a civil war to overthrow gallifrey's totalitarian government. the bald president dude is the master.
this will be met with gr8b8m8 but wait until tomrorrows episode. it will definitely split the fandom
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>>63318303
>She put herself with the doctor so he could get back to gallifrey to start a civil war to overthrow gallifrey's totalitarian government.
>literally the only democratic government on any planet other than Earth in the show
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>>63318303
>this will be met with gr8b8m8

gr8b8m8
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http://www.combom.co.uk/2014/04/bbc-reveal-casting-of-master.html
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So the Doctor switches from his usual black guitar to a wicked red Gibson SG for this finale.

Well. He sure is Hell Bent.
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>>63318303
That twist would be incomprehensible even by Doctor Who standards.
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>>63318303
>>63318303
>gr8b8m8

No, but close
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>>63316984
I thought SJA made them immortal or something.

Or is that not canon.
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>>63318671
are you canon memeing
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HELL BENT: HINTS & TEASERS (SET #2)

The Matrix
“I’ll try not to break your jaw”
The Academy
“I can’t be the Doctor all the time”
The E. Chamber
“You must really like her”
The Killer
“As of this moment I’m answerable to no one”
The Lover of Chaos
“You are hated. By everybody, but by nobody more than me”
She will knock four times
“Classic. Look at the colour scheme”
The Duty
“It was Amy and Rory”
104 101 102 101 102 103 131 122
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>>63318848
>She will knock four times
Seriously? This is pretty much confirming Missy.
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>>63316654
Barbara is dead
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>>63316553
>He seemed to pause before saying it, like he knew it was wrong.
>this much denial
His half-human heritage is literally a gigantic plot point confirmed by multiple independent sources in the film m8.
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>>63318848
She will knock four times
SIMMS INTO GOMEZ NIGGAAAAAAAA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1NJN5Ru4RA
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>>63316918
>Bird. That's when I remember! Always then! Always then! It was exactly there!
>But I can remember, Clara. You don't understand. I can remember it all. Every time. And you'll still be gone. Whatever I do, you still won't be there.
He remembers the whole thing m8. When he rigs the machinery to his head so that he can donate his body's energy, the memory goes with it, though it remains in his unconscious mind until he sees the diamond and it jogs his memory.
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>>63319025
gr8 b8 m8
he doesn't remember anything
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>>63314858
Ever since I read the review that said that the whole return to Gallifrey thing is left on a second plane for the second half of the episode, which focuses on the hybrid and Ashildr, I'm feeling it'll start out as GOAT, seemingly being what everyone wants it to be, then become some off the wall shit centered around the hybrid, Ashildr, technobabble and long dialogues between the Doctor and Ashildr about stuff they know but the audience doesn't. Then it'll end resolving the hybrid plot which was introduced a whole fucking episode before it, and leave gallifrey's fucking fate hanging once again.
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I'm gonna edit Peter Capaldi's fac eonto a hybrid car.
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>>63319094
>technobabble
that ain't moff's style
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>>63319062
>he doesn't remember anything
>I can remember it all. Every time.
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>>63319166
he remembers clara
if he actually remembered going through the castle each time the episode would make no sense
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>>63319025
>>63316918
He only remembers the final, successful, incarnation. All the others just...died. And he started without any of their memories, to him, he was always freshly arrived from London, with Clara just having died.

The weight of it all hits him hard enough for him to empathize with all the other Doctors that died before him, the monsterousness of it all, but he doesn't actually remember what they went through.
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>>63319025
He remembers Clara every time you mong
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>>63319153
Call it pseudo-bullshit instead? Idk. Wedding of River Song. All of time is happening at once, etc.
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Someone make a Loom Coalition shoop
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>>63319113
Please do.
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>Listening to The Kingmaker
>Character is called Doctor Who
>Peri calls them children's books
My autism is flaring up pretty high and iI'm only on track 6
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>>63319345
here, my magnum opus

g'night /who/
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I did not enjoy Hell Bent, and it is going to annoy a certain type of fan very, very much.
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>>63319210
>he remembers clara
Why would he tell Clara that he remembers her? Of course he fucking remembers her, that was never in question. He's telling her that he remembers punching the wall for thousands of years.
>if he actually remembered going through the castle each time the episode would make no sense
I have already explained how this works. His memory is jogged when he sees the diamond wall, juxtaposes it with the word "bird" and thinks of the fable, as demonstrated by his following statement, "I can remember it all. Every time."
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>>63316006
>I've never got the "season 6b" autism.
>The Doctor looked old because the actor who played him was old, not everything has to be in universe or you're left having to explain why the fourth Doctor was constantly drunk.

It not that much about Pat looking old but Two working for time lords, having Tardis remote control, weird timing of his meetings with (older) Brig and all the stuff with Victoria fucking off to do calligrapy.
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>>63319355
>Character is called Doctor Who
There's an explaination for that, wait before sperging out.
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>>63319408
Brilliant, thank you for this.
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>>63319408

It's beautiful. Thank you.
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>>63319408
But is he lying about the fuel emissions?
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>>63319422
My dad's been worried that they're going to go too far in changing the Doctor's personal history. He's the Lungbarrow-loving type. Would rather have him be the Other.

Personally I don't particularly care, as long as it makes for a good story. And finding it funny that the Moff might be doing something with the "half-human" line. Seems like his kind of thing to mess with while laughing maniacally. We'll see.
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>>63319422
gr8 b8 m8
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>>63319497
Doctor Volkswagen
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>>63319449
Haven't you realised literally nobody agrees with you yet? You're wrong, embrace it.
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>>63319514
>My dad's been worried that they're going to go too far in changing the Doctor's personal history. He's the Lungbarrow-loving type. Would rather have him be the Other.

Even by going with book cabnon alone, Faction already fucked with his timeline so he is and he isn't.
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>>63319544
It's pretty much confirmed to be a bad episode
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>>63319601
gr8 b8 m8
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>>63319514
Must be fun having a dad who's a fan of the show. i can't imagine how strongly I would feel about the show if I had been following it since the times of the Masterplan.
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>>63319514
>being able to discuss Doctor Who EU stuff with your dad
You're a lucky bastard.
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>>63319607
It's going to be shit anon, deal with it.
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>>63319610
Both of my parents are proper hardcore fans. It runs in the family.
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