He's literally never made a decent movie, why would anyone expect the overcrowded mess that is Batman v Superman to be any good?
man of steel and watchmen are top 10 capeshit you dumdumb
>>63288706
>man of steel and watchmen are top 10 capeshit you dumdumb
300 is the only good movie he's made
>>63288706
>man of steel and watchmen are top 10 capeshit you dumdumb
>>63288732
>>63288706
does anybody actually believe this or is it just good bait?
>>63288732
>>63288757
Mark my words BvS doesn't make it past 60%
Watchmen > Man of Steel > 300
![Harrison-Wells-harrison-wells-eobard-thawne-reverse-flash-38370731-1174-656[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Guz3orb.jpg "Harrison-Wells-harrison-wells-eobard-thawne-reverse-flash-38370731-1174-656[2].jpg")
>>63288757
>>63288732
>the plebes literally cannot handle the quality
>>63288787
/tv/ rates Watchmen pretty high
http://strawpoll.me/1969246/r
>>63288732
I let retards form opinions for me
>>63288706
fine lets do this
1. TDK
2. The Incredibles
3. Spider-Man 2
4. Iron Man
5. Unbreakable
6. X2
7. Kick-Ass
8. Hellboy
9. Guardians of the Galaxy
10. The Avengers
WB took a gamble that his striking visuals would pay off in the limp generic capeshit market so they paired him with Nolan, Nolan's writer and Nolan's composer which sounded like a slam dunk on paper but they underestimated what a true hack Snyder is. Now they're throwing all the eggs in the basket because it's too later to full reboot AGAIN so they're praying they can somehow build a house on a weak foundation. No worries, when it all comes crumbling down they'll deflect the blame as they always do.
"Justice League a national laughing stock? 17% on RT? Critical and financial bomb? Well I guess audiences weren't ready for a female superhero! Plus the market is over saturated! And of course Superman is inherently a poor and outdated character! And audiences weren't ready for a new Batman! etc. etc."
>>63288757
>>63288732
>190 people liked Watchmen
>161 people liked Man of Steel
Do you have a point my dude?
>>63288911
No Watchmen and no Burton Batman? I fucking hate you.
>>63288892
>First class before DOFP
>X-men that low
ree
>>63288652
>implying watchmen wasn't the best capeshit movie ever made
even though it's not my favourite, it's still the best one out there
>>63288652
>tfw he made watchmen
>tfw man of steel was better than every marvel movie except iron man 1
sucker punch is dogshit but both cape movies he made were great (even though MoS had quite some flaws)
>>63288955
this
>>63288955
This x1000.
>>63288901
supergirl is the worst comic show I have ever watched. It's worse than birds of prey, that x-factor/x-men show from the early 2000s, hell, it's even worse than the old captain america show
how can the writers for supergirl legitimately think that by only pandering to women and black people, the show would be a hit?
even the worst smallville episode is better than the best supergirl episode. yes, vampire lana is better than this all day every day
>>63288911
tdk sm2 wm sm1 bb
x2 dofp mos tdkr bm
bld smII caws im gotg
i choose to not rank non-dc/marvel shit
>>63288706
>There are people on this board who actually believe this
>>63288955
you're delusional if you think justice league won't make a lot of bucks. unfortunately, now warnerbros is putting in jokes in their trailers. marveldrones love that shit and will eat it up, so will the masses
>>63288652
>He's literally never made a decent movie
okay reddit have fun with your supe movies
>>63288955
>>63289003
>>63289045
Literally Reddit: the comments
>>63289213
reddit wants to watch the movie tho
>>63289213
>>63289173
You can whine all you want, but BvS is going to be a critical flop. Probably won't even break a billion. The trailer is currently a laughingstock even among casuals.
>>63289265
>You can whine all you want, but BvS is going to be a critical flop
lel joss stop it. You are too funny man can't wait for firefly 2.0
>>63289265
>BvS is going to be a critical flop
avengers 1 and 2 were garbage and still made a fuckton of money. what are you getting at, retard?
nowadays, it doesn't even matter whether a movie is well-made as long as it makes money and BvS WILL make a fuckton of money
>>63289346
>garbage
According to who? Some retarded contrarian critics that can't accept comic book movies can be good ?
>>63289370
the avengers movies were fucking garbage, soulless wet garbage
I don't understand why redditube is riding against Lex so hard. Getting flashbacks of 1000s of "nerds" parroting the opinions of a couple of shitheads, pretending they know jackshit about Superman and are "outraged".
>>63289157
>marveldrones love that shit and will eat it up, so will the masses
No they don't, they're all butthurt at DC for "acting like Marvel" even though they bitched before about that being what they want.
>>63289458
He's terrible. I honestly don't know why Snyder chose him. I understand that he won't act
>Lol so random XD
Throughout the whole movie but his voice is just the complete opposite of Lex.
>>63289403
So, retarded contrarian critics, gotcha
>>63288732
>>63288757
>using rotten tomatoes to validate your opinions
>being 12
what's it like?
>>63289580
>I'd be the first to post a movie's RT percentage if it furthered my argument
Why is Jesse Kikeberg in this film? What do people like about him?
>>63289526
you loved >>63288901 right? Wouldn't want to be a retarded contrarian!
>>63289620
>except I'm not the kind of fucktard who feels the need to anonymously argue my opinions on comic book movies
>>63289458
Even people who know dick about superman should be able to see that he sticks out like a sore thumb
>>63288652
It's not a movie, it's not a film... it's entirely shot digital and looks like some fan-film/videogame dreamed up by some autist.
Nolan at least made films, shot on film, and everything looked real BECAUSE IT WAS REAL.
>>63289370
>Some retarded contrarian critics
you're trying too hard dude
I loved every marvel movie up until avengers came out
>those stupid-as-fuck jokes
>character interaction was garbage
>that captain america costume
>that generic plotline
pic related
don't even get me started on age of ultron. it's up there with green lantern, disregarding the fact that those motherfuckers let us think that the movie was actually going to be serious
also
>"you don't agree with me so I'll call you contrarian!!!!"
what are you, 12?
>>63289649
TV critics are shit. Big surprise m8.
>>63289475
>acting like Marvel
I wouldn't call it acting like marvel if only one character is fucking up the movie. it's simply retarded characterisation
the other "jokes" weren't bad in my eyes
>>63289704
you are a smart man
>>63289704
that pic perfectly sums up why marvel fans are retarded. marvel movies (except for iron man 1 and winter soldier) are literally made for michael bay fans
>>63289711
Blockbuster critics are different? Who do you work for?
>>63288747
and 300 was a meme movie
>>63289109
>how can the writers for supergirl legitimately think that by only pandering to women and black people, the show would be a hit?
even the worst smallville episode is better than the best supergirl episode. yes, vampire lana is better than this all day every day
Because the critics were telling them how amazing the show was. Because mainstream hollywood and the critical community/media today doesnt care about the quality of a work as much as they do about the MESSAGE of the work. If it hits all the right political notes for them, it is a MUST WATCH. Even if the acting is poor, the effects are lackluster, and the casting is atrocious (a la Supergirl)
Clearly the audience doesn't agree with the critics though.
>>63289776
LMAO are you seriously acting like there's no difference? Rotten tomato tv hands out 100% like it's cool. How many 100% movies have we seen this year? fucking retard get the fuck out of here.
Why don't we close this fucking place? The /v/ scum can only argue using review scores and all the threads are /co/ related.
>>63288911
>Watchmen no where near this list
my nigga
>>63289849
Tis.
>>63288652
Based Snyder saving capeshit one film at a time
>>63289867
>hurr durr capeshit movies are /co/ not movies
>hurr durr animated movies are /a/ not movies
>>63289770
Except they're not. In Marvel movies, there is a genuine effort to try and humanise the characters and make us sympathise with them and their plight. The Transformers movies have NO character development, it's literally just destruction porn.
>>63289819
>the effects are lackluster
you really think so? I agree with you on all other things but this. I thought that the flying scenes are great and the heat vision scene from the red tornado episode (even though it's BLUE!!!!) was perfectly executed
critics are retarded when it comes to SJW crap. americans are the worst when it comes to this because by whining about equality all the time, you just create larger gaps between the people
>WHY ARE BLACKS SO SUPPRESSED YOU GUYS?!?!?
meanwhile, over here in germany, nobody gives a shit about black people because they have the same rights and equal chances as everybody else
only people who are too lazy talk about inequality. instead of actually putting hard work into studying, dumb people will rather complain that the education system doesn't give them chances
>>63289849
>LMAO are you seriously acting like there's no difference?
Yeah, I'm a rational adult that hates entertainment critics. If you aren't aware by now in 2015 that they're all clowns... fuck you're the retard.
>>63289911
Exactly! Finally someone who understands. Without the visually stunning effects of Snyder's cinematic achievements, we would never get top-tier cinema like Man of Steel.
>>63289912
Yes, now fuck off back to /co/ you dull basement dwelling libkek. Capeshit is literally the lowest of the low, i'm sick of seeing it clog up this board
>>63288732
Watchmen is keg it good. It borders on auteur so it may go over your head.
>>63289867
keep your panties on, senpai. Chinese moot is working on /film/ as we speak
>>63288911
>GotG and Avengers on this list
>no Spider-Man 1, Burton Batman, Winter Soldier or Watchmen instead
jesus christ
>>63288732
>>63288757
show the audience ratings too you biased nigger
>>63289985
My personal picks would be:
>Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
>Man of Steel
>Watchmen
>300
>Everything else
Snyder has completely driven the Superhero film industry the past years.
>That son of bitch brought the war to us
God damn I am looking forward to this.
Man of Steel was fun, so was Sucker Punch, 300 is iconic, didn't watched Watchmen yet.
>>63289936
>In Marvel movies, there is a genuine effort to try and humanise the characters and make us sympathise with them and their plight
>genuine effort
stopped reading right there. in all seriousness though, letting characters make jokes all the time doesn't humanise them. it makes the scenes laughable and occasionally sympathetic, sure. still, people who actually want to see some good storylines don't get their cut
in Guardians of the Galaxy, in one scene the WHOLE nova corps dies. in the next, the guardians are joking about killing people. I like comedies but when there is nothing else to a movie, it gets boring very fast
>>63290044
>tfw this motherfucker is joking but MoS and Watchmen are some of my favourite capeshit movies
fuck you in case you're making fun of me
>>63289938
I have only watched the first two episodes, but I do find the effects to be lackluster. The flying looks good, but the fight scenes don't look good at all to me. They are mediocre at best. I think they could get away with it if they didn't rely so much on them. Like the flash. In The Flash we see the lightning running all the time, but otherwise they use the special effects more sparingly (except for Grodd). Supergirl seems to use it a lot more. I am not saying they are poor, they arent, but they definitely aren't movie quality either. They are above sc-fi channel original movie quality.
>>63290062
Humanise doesn't mean making jokes, that's just the attitude of the Marvel universe. It doesn't take itself too seriously like the depression that was Man of Steel.
That scene in Avengers 2 at Hawkeye's house. Not really much witty dialogue of funnies there except from Tony and that's just him. They didn't need to include that scene but they did, as an attempt to ground the heroes and make them seem more relatable.
I'm not saying all Marvel movies have a scene like that, some of em are fucking messes. But you can't compare them to Transformers because there is a legitimate amount of effort put into the stories. Transformers series, the animations come first then they try and build a paper thin story around it because for some reason, the studio thinks that people wouldn't see a Transformers movie without humans in it.
Worst mainstream director tbqhfam.
Top class cocksucker tho I bet. Why else would anybody keep giving him big projects.
I will worship any cape actor that reaches the level Walter Kovac and Jeffrey Dean Morgan were on for Watchmen. I only see Cavill, Affleck, Charlie Cox, or John Bernthal getting there.
>>63290196
>That scene in Avengers 2 at Hawkeye's house
problem is that it's the only scene in age of ultron that was actually good. everything else, I was mad at
every fight was a joke and ultron was the biggest letdown since I found out he was going to be a villain. he had the potential to be the best villain but of course, jokes had to be made so they made him a laughing stock
I know what you're trying to say but marvel almost never does the things you just described.
I really wish there were more marvel movies like Iron Man 1. I still hope that Dr. Strange will be great though
>>63288652
SAVE US NOLAN
I can understand why they'd have him direct a film but to let him essentially be the architect of the whole universe is sheer madness
>>63290481
Seems like he'll veer towards good comics instead of going FUCK IT THIS IS ALL FAGGY like John Peters.
I'm trying to understand DC fan logic here
i read DC comics, watch the movies and animated films with a fairly open mind.
Though i can identify when something is off base.
In a universe with stories and characters with pre existing backstory and canon and understanding this is its own universe.
>Reuse a luthor concept on film that has failed numerous times to the audience.
Even using the concept as a joke, just brings up memories of the past failures.
>change the origins of a major villian with a prexisting villian, is this is establishing new canon, is doomday now zodd thoughout and would you be happy with that idea?
>Defend these changes with such blind ferocity, the director isn't always right, remember lucas says "greedo shot first".
>>63288961
Watchmen is a shit adaptation that misses the point of the text by making everything kewl.
Burton Batman is pure ass, Nolan all the fucking way, only Adam West comes close. I mean it.
>>63289985
>Burton Batman
>Watchmen
Anybody putting these in their Top 10 doesn't know shit about superheroe>>63288911
s.
>>63288911
>Official Capeshit Top 100
The Dark Knight
The Avengers
Batman Begins
X2
Spider-Man 2
Iron Man
The Winter Soldier
X-Men
Spider-Man
The First Avenger
>>63288955
Accurate, apart from the part where it flops. The movie will be Transformers 4 tier, mark my words.
>>63288892
>Iron Man
>one word
Filthy casuals.
>>63288911
swap those 9 and 10 for Dredd and Winter Soldier
>>63293526
I forgot about based Dredd.
>>63293422
Literally all of these films are fucking shit when judged by actual standards.
Don't mean to single out your list specificially, it's just eye opening to see just how bad capeshit is when movies like these are commonly called the best of the genre. I'd never associate with anybody who liked any one of those movies.
>>63288652
BvS will flop so hard (by the studio's standards) that WB will sell off DC to Disney.
>>63293700
>Literally all of these films are fucking shit when judged by actual standards.
Could not disagree more. Genre films are best judged within their genre. Sometimes they can transcend genre, but it's rare and there need to be a fuckton, like sci-fi and horror. TDK definitely holds up against crime movies though.
He's an actual GOOD action director working on superhero movies. That's a blessing. If the script is any good it'll be great.
>>63293770
>He's an actual GOOD action director
Strongly disagree.
>>63293749
Batman vs Darth Vader when?
>>63293770
>GOOD action director
No
>>63293759
>TDK definitely holds up against crime movies
WOW. Just no. It LOOKS like other serious crime movies but it's dumb as shit.
No one here knows Dawn of the Dead apparently, so any kind of Snyder related discussionon /tv/ is ironic.
>>63293822
It will never be as good as that fan film, sadly.
Watchmen was decent.
>>63293784
>>63293824
Him, Raimi, Vaughn, and as much as I hate to admit it, Singer, are the only capeshit directors who can handle action...
>>63293838
It really, really isn't. Unless by "dumb" you mean "inherently zany" because yeah, its main characters are Batman and The Joker. I watched Cop Land the other day. The Dark Knight is quite clearly a better crime movie than Cop Land, and I think Cop Land is pretty fucking solid.
>>63293944
actually I forgot the Russo's. Cap2 2 was decent.
>>63291091
This Luthor is very different from the other ones. Give me one reason why capeshit needs to be 100% loyal to the comics, the audience is a bit broader and can establish its own canon. there is a comic multiverse, according to DC all movies, TV shows, comic iterations, cartoons, all of them are contained in their own universe, I know that and i dont even like DC
>>63293759
>Genre films are best judged within their genre
So lets give a pass to dance movies like step up 2 the streets for being good within their genre. The capeshit genre inherently limits any entry to trash status.
One of these movies being good would disqualify it from being considered part of the genre.
>>63293977
Please explain the scene where Bruce is firing bullets at bricks to get a fingerprint to me...and then tell me more about how it's not a fucking unbelievably stupid movie.
>>63288652
Because Hollywood doesn't make any sense. Execs will give movies to people just because they know the guy and think he's eeeh sort of okay. They don't have the heart to say "you know what, you've never really shown yourself to be thaaat great and we really want to push this movie to the next level." It's to do with connections, my theory.
>>63293944
>Vaughn
Fucking please, do you remember what Angel and Banshee flying looked like in First Class? I'll grant you, Snyder handled flying better.
>Raimi
Totally. He's straight up the best craftsman listed.
>Singer
When he wants to. Dat White House scene mang.
The Russos are bretty gud, otherwise yeah, action choreography is rarely something to go wild about. I mean, Daredevil's hallway sequence was fucking better than possible any superhero movie action scene outside of Raimi's Spider-Man (and maybe better even then depending on my mood). One of Snyder's chief problems is the lack of personality in his combat scenes.
>>63289936
>Disney
>genuine effort
maybe in marketing
>>63293422
Batman Begins isn't top 10
neither is any Spider-Man movie in retrospect. Back then they seemed good because there was nothing else to compare them to, but looking back they are complete shit
>>63294071
It's like if you know a bunch of people who are photographers, but your cousin is also a photographer. Your cousin is not as great as some of those photogrophers, but compared to a lot, he's still good so because you know him you go eeeh and give him the gig.
That's my theory.
>>63289265
>batman and superman on the silver screen for the first time ever
>critical flop
my grandma actually wants to see it. she fucking hates colored moving pictures too.
>>63294037
>The capeshit genre inherently limits any entry to trash status.
Absurd.
>>63294049
That's hardly a relevant scene to the discussion of the overall quality of the film. Are you really going to say no film with technobabble or implausible technology is ever good?
>>63294097
To each their own I guess. I feel like Snyder's style is perfectly suited to comic book movies. I was actually really disappointed he didn't go all out with his usual over the top slo mo in MOS. It would have suited that movie more than anything else he's done. What with "faster than a speeding bullet" and all.
>>63294120
Don't be retarded, they're great. Begins especially. Perfect origin story.
>>63294194
I never even said I didn't like it. Just that it's dumb as shit, and you can't compare it to a serious crime movie. You can compare it to Avengers and shit...
>>63294049
He is trying to model the way that the bullet fragments when it hits the wall. He already has parts of the joker's bullet, but he has no idea how it deformed so he can't get the print. It's kind of implausible because the fingerprint would be pretty worn off by that point, but it makes sense.
>>63294217
It probably doesn't help that I dislike his aesthetic in general, I think he makes ugly films and makes very poor design choices.
>>63294253
I am comparing it to a serious movie. I can, and I will. That scene is pretty damn insignificant in the grand scheme of things, and it doesn't write-off the film. I'm not going to pretend The Town is better than The Dark Knight because Ben Affleck wasn't wearing a cape yet.
>>63294154
You must have forgotten about MoS. It was a critical flop. Not exactly out of the realm of possibilities for them to make another.
Maybe you don't understand what "critical flop" means because you're the average capeshit mouthbreather, let me break it down for you: it has nothing to do with money and everything to do with the CRITICAL response to the film.
You should probably stop watching these shitty movies. They're melting your brain.
>>63294157
Except there hasn't been a single one of these movies that hasn't been fucking terrible. The genre is inherently juvenile.
>>63294342
>critics
They praised Hunger Games, critics don't mean shit since circa-2005.
>>63294399
Mainstream critics have always been an extension of studio marketing departments.
>>63294282
No I get what the movie is saying he did. I'm just saying it's one of the most prepostorous things I've ever seen. And no it doesn't make sense at all. A bullet's not gonna fragment the same way. And even if in some bizarro world it actually could, you wouldn't be able to extrapolate someones fingerprint off the first one.
>>63294399
>yfw Hunger Games is a better reviewed movie than this DCasual trash
Pfffffttttthahahahahahaha eat shit capeshitters.
>>63288901
IMDB> RT
>>63294354
>Except there hasn't been a single one of these movies that hasn't been fucking terrible.
That's incredibly juvenile...
>The genre is inherently juvenile.
Oh. Nothing aimed at, inclusive of, or sourced from material that appeals to young people can be of any artistic worth? Interesting. VERY interesting. I hadn't realised this, thanks for informing me. I'll stick to mature stuff for mature individuals such as myself from now on, because true Art is serious business.
>>63290044
>dawn of justice at #1
>movie isn't even out yet
Wut
>>63294455
It doesn't mean shit, Hunger Games is held in higher regard than fucking Dersu Uzala, international effort by Russians and Kurosawa.
How does that make sense?
>>63294342
>superman by himself on screen
happened several times over
>batman and superman
not once
>probably wont break a billion
again b8 post
>>63294564
There can be good material aimed at young people. Material that encourages them to develop and nurtures an appreciation for art. But the empty "entertainment" of the super hero genre can only be destructive. It has locked the last two generations into an autistic mental bondage.
>reddit meme media reaction image.
It's fruitless even trying to enage with you. You're a lost cause. You are too deeply molded by your video game capeshit degeneracy. Infantilized beyond repair. All I will say is that I'd kill you and your kind, all those who enable these video games and "entertainment" oriented movies, without moment's hesitation. The removal of the castrated infantilized beta male is the only way for the white race to survive. Capeshit is genocide.
>>63294282
This. If you didn't get that when you watched the movie, you're a bit of a dolt.
>>63294354
fool me 10 times, shame on you. fool me 11 times, shame on me
>>63294818
You're fucking deluded and batshit insane.
Capeshit sells, there's no grand jewish plan behind it.
>all these jealous marveldrones
>>63294818
>>reddit meme media reaction image.
IT'S FROM DANGER 5 YOU UNCULTURED SWINE
>video game capeshit degeneracy
I don't play videogames.
>The removal of the castrated infantilized beta male is the only way for the white race to survive.
Jesus Gonzalez, get a fucking hold of yourself you madman.
>>63294818
>I'd kill you and all your kind
E D G Y
D
G
Y
ACCEPTABLE CAPE GARBAGE
- Burton Batman/Returns
- Begins/TDK
- Watchmen
- Iron Man
- Unbreakable
Everything else I've seen has been from mediocre (Spider Man 2, Winter Soldier) to absolute horseshit
>>63294881
>there's no grand jewish plan behind it.
Extremely naive. Capeshit sells because audiences have been conditioned to buy it. The reason they conditioned audiences to buy it is because the media in question is inherently weakening to all of those who consume it.
They tricked the white man into wanting to buy bullets through years of brainwashing. Then they sit and count their dollars as the white man buys the bullets, loads them, puts the gun to his head and then pulls the trigger.
Capeshit and all other juvenile entertainment media is a targeted plan to keep white males in their bedrooms worshipping cartoon characters while the females are being taught to race mix with the racial minorities that the same media heavily sexualizes. This is genocide in action. Just look at that new netflix show. It is clear as day.
>>63294987
>IT'S FROM DANGER 5 YOU UNCULTURED SWINE
This is a reddit sensibility post if I ever saw one. You're in the wrong place. End of conversation.
>>63295122
you seem to know a lot about reddit, faggot
perhaps you should go back
Top Ten Comic Book Movies
1. American Splendor
2. Road to Perdition
3. The Rocketeer
4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
5. Watchmen
6. A History of Violence
7. Dredd
8. Hellboy
9. Sin City
10. Hulk
>>63288732
2deep4u
>>63288787
I believe it. I'd much rather rewatch MoS than any other capeshit I can think of.
watchmen
v for vendetta
the avengers
superman
spiderman 2
x men 2
blade 2
dredd
batman begins
iron man
>>63289173
>Comparing a highly photoshopped promo pic with a candid taken behind the scenes by some fan or a paparazzo
You DCfags are a hoot.
>>63289704
>Using a le9gag pic as an argument
>>63290361
Not even Nolan can save this train wreck.
>>63293749
This needs to happen. Disney would know what to do. This is the only way DC can be saved.
>>63294071
Exactly. That's why hacks like The Wachowkis keep getting work even if they haven't done a decent movie in more than a decade.
>>63295088
/pol/ is that way my stormfag friendo
