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What made this movie so good?
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What made this movie so good?
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pure comfy
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>>63260218

The hotel
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>>63260218
Wes Anderson

Don't buy into /tv/'s slander, he's a great director
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You're an easily impressed teen
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>>63260218
It pleased my OCD
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>>63260218
My desire to actually visit a small hotel near Austria and spend some time in Lödz
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Based Phiennes desu
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>>63260349
How do you pronounce his full name again?
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>>63260349
is this the best hair/beard combination in history of balding?
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>>63260349
fiennes*
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>Wes Anderson
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>>63260218

This scene mang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4Pqrz3DCSs
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>>63260218
The number of celeb actors
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>>63260218
I fucking hate these quirky pointless films, all of them are a fuck fest of celebs so normies cream their pants, none of them are actually good, non.
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>>63260218

prove me wrong!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx5lZkpDxnc
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>>63260362
Rayf Fines, apparently
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Adrien Brody
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The most prevalent criticism of Wes Anderson's oeuvre is that he puts more effort into the his intricate dioramas than writing, plot, characters, etc. I don't find that to be an accurate criticism of his other movies, but it definitely fits here. All the sets are very ordered and detailed, to an absurd and frankly off-putting level. There's next to no character development in the movie; characters are whisked in and out before we get to know anything about them really. Kovacs has a cat and he's a lawyer. Agatha is a pastry-chef and has a Mexico-shaped birthmark. So what? Why should we care? The characters we do get any sort of real characterization of are either one-note baddies or one-note dandies (i.e. M. Gustave). Everyone is a complete caricature. It's almost funny that Anderson's two previous movies had much more rounded characters, and they starred animated foxes and children, respectively. The script is absolutely atrocious, flitting between sickening sentimentality and sudden-vulgarity-is-funny-right-guys?. It's also, tellingly, the first script written entirely by Anderson.

Perhaps most infuriating was Wes Anderson's use of emotional manipulation in the movie . He uses such things as the hotel being oppressed by the SS - sorry the "ZZ" - and Agatha being killed by the "Prussian grippe" as cheap methods of sympathy while also using them as stupid jokes. "ZZ" stands for "zig-zag," a joke that seems very characteristic of his sense of humour, but one that is totally inappropriate, especially given that the hotel isn't persecuted for any reason other than Nazis are mean and do bad things and are short-hand for bad guy. The tone-deaf preciousness is echoed in the "Prussian grippe" name; it's funny because the Spanish flu killed 50 million people? This sort of thing is practically unprecedented in Wes Anderson's movies, but then again there hasn't been one so hollow thus far so either.
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>>63260218
Do you enjoy the flicks of wes anderson?
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>>63260640
Stop watching them then fuckface, I don't join threads about Transformers or whatever the fuck you watch just to say I don't like them.
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>>63260733
The infuriatingness of his quasi-ideology doesn't end there either. I found M. Gustave to be a pretty terrible character, and yet the movie doesn't really try to satirize him so much as it lionizes him as a noble spirit from a bygone age or some such bs. He talks about treasuring things like "civilization" and the way things are supposed to be and Romantic poetry and "purity" in women which just makes me want to throw up. It just kind of encapsulates all the shitty things about the way Wes Anderson thinks into one truly unlikeable character.

Honestly, this movie was so bad I'm having paranoid thoughts that I don't actually like the rest of his movies. Is The Royal Tenenbaums actually any good? If I rewatch Rushmore will it seem just as bad?
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>mfw a pleb liked this shit near me
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>>63260733
>he puts more effort into the his intricate dioramas than writing, plot, characters, etc.
I agree on this one point, but I don't think that's a negative thing about him. I just wish he stuck to art direction instead of general production.
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the length
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It's his worst film


Darjeeling is his best

t. patrician
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>>63260640

>celebs so normies cream their pants

I don't think the movie had any "cream your pants" level of celebreties. Many famous names, but nothing like Megan Fox or Tom Hiddelston, where people just go to jerk off to them.

>quirky pointless films

The movie had a clear-cut plotline though. A guy inherits a painting from a dead rich woman and now the guy that killed said rich woman wants it back.

I wouldn't even call the quirkiness all that quirky either. It used gags, a brighter pallet colour than most movies and played a little more with the camera, but no off-the-wall abstract bullshit.
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>>63260740

Nope, in fact this is his first movie that I've watched.
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>>63260218
Narrator (both Zero and Author) had a comfy voice.

Snowy areas are comfy by default.

Characters were fun and interesting

Plot was light and funny

All in all a literal 10/10 comfy one of my favorites
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>>63260511
>he ran
wtf?
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>>63260218
The way it triggers the anti-artsy fags when the movie is just having fun with it rather than trying to be deep
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>>63260807
Based Armond
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Cinematography, props, lighting, adorable performances, adorable story.
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Dogshit compared to life aquatic t b h
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>>63260977
The plot, the characters, the ideologies. None of it is "serious". Though the art direction is. But it's also the writer's truth. For him none of those true world issues are as real as the art direction details.
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>>63260733
>Perhaps most infuriating was Wes Anderson's use of emotional manipulation in the movie . He uses such things as the hotel being oppressed by the SS - sorry the "ZZ" - and Agatha being killed by the "Prussian grippe" as cheap methods of sympathy while also using them as stupid jokes.

I don't think Agatha died as a way to make us feel sad, but more as a combination between "life sucks" and "they didn't had medicine back in the day". Similarly, the movie is tied to a historical period, so it's not like he could have avoided things like Nazies and epidemics.

As for the ZZ - the movie was much too lighthearted to deal with actual nazies.

"ZZ" stands for "zig-zag," a joke that seems very characteristic of his sense of humour, but one that is totally inappropriate, especially given that the hotel isn't persecuted for any reason other than Nazis are mean and do bad things and are short-hand for bad guy.
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