>character's personality and views don't change at all
>no new information is revealed about the character
>but the viewer's opinion of the character changes completely
In Season 1, I thought Bodie was an irredeemable piece of shit for jumping at the chance to kill Wallace.
By Season 4, I found Bodie the most likeable character, even though (and this is important) he is STILL THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO WOULD JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO KILL WALLACE.
I love it when shows pull this trick. Anyone have other examples?
griffith from berserk
Except upto his death, he still regretted jumping at Wallace.
His character went through a lot of development throughout the series. If you didn't notice any of it then maybe you should stick to watching Netflix marvel shows.
>>63232213
Walter White, but backwards.
>>63232276
OP is right in the fact that he doesn't change his views upon life. He gets a bit smarter and but always regretted killing Wallace from the start(so nothing changes). His position in the organization changes, but his way of thinking is the same.
>>63232213
I always sympathized with Bodie because he reminded me of a lot of my friends grew up in poor families and had to hustle to support their families and selves.
Bodie knew what he was doing was wrong, yet felt trapped in I the game and was disgusted with his existence like the guys I knew.
>>63232213
He was still an irredeemable price of shit.
On top of that he was one that finally saw "the game" for the bullshit it is, and still resigned himself to it, choosing death in the game rather than life.
He never jumped at shit. He hesitated, the loud mouth butch talked about doing it, but it was Pooh who manned up.
He quite literally almost grew as a person, but chose not to.
Fuck that nigga.
>>63232276
No, Bodie doesn't really change. He justifies killing Wallace in Season 4, and says it's different from how Marlo operates. IN his final meeting with McNulty, he still looks down on "snitches".
It's just that when you see Bodie in a larger context, he doesn't seem so bad.
>>63232442
>It's just that when you see Bodie in a larger context, he doesn't seem so bad.
This.
Not as big a piece of shit as Marlo, but shitty nonetheless.
>>63232280
>mentioning walter white
>in a wire thread
Pete Campbell is the white guy version of Bodie. He goes from total dick to lovable dick.
WMD
WE GOT DAT WMD
>>63232852
FUCK DIS NIGGAS SHIT
PANDEMIC! I GOT PANDEMIC! I SAY PANDEMIC!
I guess you could say Seinfeld pulled this trick. It's the reason people hate the last episode, and the reason why I love it.
For nine years the characters seemed entirely reasonable. They're cynical, but the 90s was a time of growing cynicism so they're no better or worse than the people of the time. People could identify with them.
But when the final episode laid out everything they did in such a condensed way it suddenly painted them as complete assholes, even though they were the same as they had always been. People were upset that the characters they so readily identified with for the past almost-decade were revealed to be jerks. The fact that they identified with them meant that they were jerks, but of course they didn't want to think that of themselves, and they translated this cognitive dissonance into hatred of the episode.
tl;dr Seinfeld cast never changed but they went from stereotypical 90s cynics to "wow they're actually total assholes" in the span of one double episode
>>63232255
>character's personality and views don't change at all
>no new information is revealed about the character
>but the viewer's opinion of the character changes completely
>Griffith
But that's just wrong. On all accounts.
>>63233144
I think most people hated it because it was a clip show
>>63232280
>Walter White
This. I don't know if Vince Gilligan is some sort of Lucas-tier idiot savant, or if he just lies in interviews, but he definitely did NOT create the story of a "good man who becomes bad".
BB is the story of a man with no boundaries who stops being held back by society.
Season 1 > 3> 5 > 2 > 4
Sorry, I know everyone lavishes over 4 but I hated the nigger kids so much.
>>63233023
GOT DEM SPIDER BAGS RIGHT CHERE
>>63233837
Hating 4 is fucking ridiculous but 5 is objectively the weakest season. Everyone knows this.
>its a UH OHHHHHH episode
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