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What's with the obsession with "Resistances" that Amazon had to add one that wasn't in the book?

When Japan and Germany were occupied IRL, the latter being partitioned into zones controlled by individual Allied nations, they didn't have persistent organized armed resistances.

So why does the fictional occupied America have such?
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>being this autistic
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>>63222944

Because unlike PKD, who accepted that almost all Allied countries that were opposed to the Nazis politically had populations that almost entirely agreed with them from a moral standpoint. Everybody hated commies, everybody hated gypsies, everybody hated homos, nobody liked Jews and many hated them, most people still don't like them despite the fact that the media, completely controlled by Jews, projects the opposite.

A conquered America would have extremely resistant to the Japanese, but the fact that ~60% of wartime America was composed of German immigrants and the descendants of German immigrants means that a Nazi occupation would have been a lot smoother than modern media revisionism likes to project.
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>>63223179
I don't think you know how autistic Clappers are about their freedumbs and gunz
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>when Germany conquered Paris, they left a significant portion nominally independent under a proxy government, called Vichy France
Why didn't the Nazis do that to America in this show?

Surely a total military occupation would be impossible, and unsaistanble for 20+ years?
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>>63223254

I am an American.

>>63223271

They did in the book, it was a puppet state whose army was used to topple South America just like before the war, and the only German interaction was in population correction/rounding up subhumans and upgrading industry/infrastructure.
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>>63223271
If you paid attention to the show you'd notice that everyone in charge in the Nazi States of America is an American. Hell, the fucking SS Obergruppenfuhrer (a rank only one or two steps removed from Himmler) in charge of the whole American SS is an American.
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>>63223254
gun rights didn't even exists back then
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>>63223411
>Hell, the fucking SS Obergruppenfuhrer (a rank only one or two steps removed from Himmler) in charge of the whole American SS is an American.
Is he, though? Around episode 7 he and the German Colonel posing as a Swedish trade ambassador reflect back on World War 2, and they make it sound like they fought on the German side.
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>>63223461

>gun rights

I think you mean gun laws, and yeah, they existed, but they were basically untouched from the 18th century and nobody complained about it. Gun rights became a problem when nonwhites became a sizeable minority, direct correlation.
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>>63223494

>not knowing that Americans fought for Germany

Fucking media keks, man.
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>>63223494
Did it ever specify what they were fighting though? They reference taking over Africa and stuff like that after WWII proper had ended, they could have met one another during the administration of some postwar ethnic purge or something like that.
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>>63223494
It's mentioned somewhere (I think it was in the X-ray trivia) that America fought among itself between those who wanted to fight against the Nazis and those who wanted to capitulate to the Nazis. John was on the side of the latter.

His wife also mentions that his family lost everything in the Great Depression, hence his personal feelings about "the decadence that ruined this country before the war".

And it would be very strange if he was German but spoke German so poorly.
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>>63222944
If you don't have a resistance movement people would whine about the show condoning Nazism or some shit.

It's a shame since the resistance characters are by far the worst in the show
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>>63223600
It's implied that whatever they did together was something so horrendous that it drove Wegener to treason and led John to take some time off sailing to do some soul searching. Probably ethnic cleansing.
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>>63223681
then why even base your show on this book
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>>63222944
Because moderate terrorists did nothing wrong, they are brave freedom fighters.
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>>63222944

It's based on a book, stupid
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>>63223494

The series takes place 20 years after World War 2, after the Germans had conquered all of Russia and Africa.
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>>63223729
Because Amazon and PKD got together and signed some contracts to give each other big paychecks. Creative license becomes a lot more fluid when the money's right.
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>>63223740
The book doesn't have an organized Resistance.
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>>63223179

There wasn't sixty percent of anything pulling shit out of your ass. There was five times more irish in our country than germans.

My family fought in the war, ten of them and no way would we allow some dirty kraut niggers to go unfought on our own soil.

Eat shit you dirty neo fascist.
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>>63223600
>>63223691
could be the cleansing of africa

in the book that extermination is implied to have been 100x as fucked up as gassing the jews and disabled. the SS apparently created autonomous machines to harvest people use their bodies for chemicals. they killed 99% of the people on the african continent and left only a few tribes and peoples alive for history reasons.
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>>63223179

>60% of wartime America was composed of German immigrants

this is so wrong it hurts

not even 40% of white america at that time or before could claim any relation to "Germans"

to start, the concept of a pan-Germanic identity didn't even arise until after Napoleon, anyone who spoke a germanic language prior to that landing in the Americas would have made things simpler culturally and politically by calling themselves German

and after 1840 or so, many American immigrants have a "German greatX-grandaddy" which means some random pollack, north italian, swiss, austrian, czech, jew, romani, dutch, belgian, russian, hungarian, random european tribe or family came to america from the austro-hungarian empire or elsewhere in europe speaking german as a lingua franca from wherever they were from and greatly benefited from keeping up the facade that they were German upon arriving on the docks because coming from any less acceptable of a background could get you ostracized, even putting up old Pennsylvania dutch barn stars on your house and learning alpine or country songs so you could blend in
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>>63222944

NAZIS CAN BE THE GOOD GUYS!

YOU STUPID GOY
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>>63224013
You totally made that up, none of that's in the book.
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>>63225590
read the book again and pay attention

it's absolutely in there
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>>63222944

OBERGRUPPENFUHRER

DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>63222944
Would you rather we had an organized movement like this?
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I wonder what the Nazis who occupied America think of Pennsylvania Dutch?
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>>63222944
am I supposed to be rooting for the nazi jew killer?
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