Is this one of the most misunderstood movies of all time? It's a shame too because the budget was big and quality great
>>63217226
>Is this one of the most misunderstood movies of all time?
It and Last Action Hero, though LAH had to compete with Jurassic Park.
Best action movie and satire of the 90s.
>>63217290
>Last Action Hero
Beat me to it.
>>63217226
I like to think of it as the best original sci-fi, action movie of the 90s; top 10 of the genre in general.
It should have gone by a different name, as it is vastly different from the source material.
I am surpised Van Dien didn't have a better career, and that Richards was the one to.
>>63217226
I don't think it was misunderstood. I was like 9 years old when I first saw and I understood that the Federation was silly and they were throwing people into meat grinders for no reason.
>>63217754
American critics bashed it saying it was a fascist movie
>americans
>>63217703
>I like to think of it as the best original sci-fi, action movie of the 90s
Except it's based on a book, but its so different it might as well be.
>>63217226
Misunderstood how?
The only misunderstandment possible is if the audience was retarded, extremely biased or american.
>>63217869
Which is why I believe it should have gone by a different title.
It changed, and satirized Heinlein's work. It essentially is an original work that borrows heavily.
The book is actually quite decent.
JUSH TRYING TO KILL SHOME BUGS SHIR
Absolutely brilliant movie.
You know it's fascism, and you know the public is being manipulated, and you know humans are the aggressors, but you STILL cheer for them all the same.
I literally still do not understand it.
Was the asteroid attack a false flag?
>>63218164
Been too long since I've seen it to cite specifics, but I think it was heavily implied in the movie.
>>63218004
but the fact that it intentionally mocks the book while being the actual, fully licensed adaptation of it is the best part. are there any other instances of that happening? i guess the 1967 casino royale but that movie's a mess.
>>63217845
>listening to critics
>>63218251
Maybe Kick-Ass 2, it kind of takes the piss out of how edgy the comic book is with how pathetic and immature the villain is.
>>63218164
I never really questioned if humanity was the agressor or not, not that it matters really, because bugs are hideous andTHE ONLY GOOD BUG IS A DEAD BUG
It is never really explained, only that the asteroid was the same one that MsSheen and crew avoided in space.
>>63218206
How was it implied?
>>63218304
Well they are still a better representation of public opinion, than 9 year old anon >>63217754
Apparently Verhoeven never finished the novel. He set out to make a parody of war and how it makes "fascists of us all" (on the commentary).
>>63217226
wrong girl got killed
if slutty skank pilot chick got ate by a bug and dizzy had lived it would have been a better movie
>You will never live in a fascist utopia
One of the greatest instances of US military butthurt in history. The novel is idolized by hardcore militaryfags who wish it was a reality where only servicemen get to vote and have a say in politics.
>>63219166
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
>>63219124
I like the relationships in this movie. It very realistically portrays people chasing after people who aren't that into them and only getting them when the person they're chasing has no better options. Shows the utterly conditional reality of relationships. Especially young people relationships.
>>63219204
>hardcore militaryfags who wish it was a reality where only servicemen get to vote and have a say in politics
Isn't that basically how Roman politics worked? It makes sense that someone who had to risk their life for the state should decide how the state is run.
>>63217226
I think that thanks to the War on Terror being basically the same as te movie, people start realizing it's satire (though they should have realized it when the words "Directed by Paul Verhoeven" showed up).
Kingsman is a more recent non-obvious satirical film that went way over everyone's heads.
>>63219529
What was it a satire of?
>>63218533
It wasn't.
>>63218251
I Am Legend drastically differs. It changes the meaning of the title completely. A shame, as it could have been much better had it remained faithful.
Another movie that should go by a different title.
>>63219557
It wasn't. Verhoeven never even finished the book
>>63217754
yeah I also got the satirical tone, especialy from the tv segmenst, especialy the one with the live excecution on all channels. Then I found the Rob Ager analysis much later and from there I learned that it wasn't common knowledge.
How old were you when you realized that Dizzy was best girl all along?
>>63218533
>>63219564
>not implied
>BUGS are able to shoot an asteroid around their planet across the galaxy
Such shots take absurd levels of precision.
>>63217595
>a satire
>>63219357
>if there hasn't been any war in a long time no one can vote
>if the last war was 50 years ago, old idiots who can't understand how society has evolved dictates policy
>implying a majority of soldiers aren't below average intelligence
What a shit show.
>>63218004
But aside from turning the federation into idiocracy with ships and guns, Heinlein did promoted military rule.
It was exaggerated, but the military supremacy is clear in the book
>>63218018
YOU LIEK THAT! YOU LIKETHAT!YOULIKETHAT! COMMON!
>>63217226
>book is pro-fascist neo Sparta
>film pokes fun at book, has anti-fascism message
>critics and audiences fail to pick up on heavy handed criticism of fascism in film
WOW.
