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Who's Snoke

Luke's apprentice that felt into dark side?
Vader's secret apprentice?
Sheev's apprentice?
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hey m8 what you snoking huehuehue
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>>63187557
nope, snoke's homeplanet is dagobah....guess which famous jedi master lived his last years there?
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Kylo ren is han and leia son. He was taken or turned by snoke when he was a young jedi training with Luke.

Snoke is either sheev, or sheev's master darth plagieus
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>>63187557
Darth plagueis
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>>63188837
I would be so happy if this were true.
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>>63187557
He's basically the new Emperor
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>>63188837
This would blow my fucking mind
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>>63188837
I want to believe.
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>>63187557
Its Sheev
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>>63188786
there is no way Han's son would be able to survive Plagieus's training

There is only one Sheev
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>>63187557
He's just going to be some utterly forgettable Dark Side alien with absolutely no relation to any past or present characters.
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>>63188738
I want to believe this, especially because the OT canon never stated why the haunted tree/cave is so strong with the Dark Side.
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1. Darth Plagueis
2. Sheev clone
3. Ancient evil
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>>63187557

Snoke is a snake
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Regardless of who he is, this is what he looks like

Disney figured who better to be the Emperor replacement than a early version of the Emperor himself
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>>63187557
A sith native from the thought-to-be erased sith planet.
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>>63189129
its leias son too. very strong in the force he would be.
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By far the most popular theory is he's Darth Plagueis. But he's supposed to be some 25ft tall alien with extremely fucked up features that couldn't possibly done with costumes/make up or animatronics.
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http://www.foodworldnews.com/articles/59385/20151130/j-j-abrams-speaks-up-about-the-roles-supreme-leader-snoke-and-maz-kanata-will-play-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens.htm

Maz Kanata is Han's mentor and some trippy pirate. Snoke is some brand new character, extremely fucked up and tall looking, seduced Kylo to the dark side.
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DUDE SNOKE SHEEV EVERYDAY LMAO
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OC retcon anceint Darkside user.

It's not fucking Plaugies, fuck off with that fan fiction shit you god damn EU niggers.
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hold dis snok
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SNOKE?
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN?
THATS SO STUPID WHAT THE FUCK. SOUNDS LIKE A VILLAIN FROM FUCKING DUCKTALES
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>>63189786
Fuck this shit.
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>>63189786

A really big snake! So evil!
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>Snoke
>Is a snake
The pottery lives on
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Snoke is no joke
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>>63189948
>Darth Venimos

Hellenistic cermaics
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>>63188786
Actually, I'm more inclined to believe that Kylo Ren is self-taught and formed the Knights of Ren himself, and only joined the First Order and Snoke much later.

if Snoke had taught Kylo Ren from the beginning I'd presume he wouldn't have such a shit-ass lightsaber.
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could somebody help me with the screenshots from empire magazine? I'm in the mood for a read
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btw Snoke was still be redesigned and altered up until the deadline so any of the leaks or art including this >>63189786 are bullshit. Apparently even Serkis hasn't scene the finalized character yet.
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why does this dude only play animated characters
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>>63190012
It's an old concept art, but the movie is finished and a bunch of people did see the movie by now.
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>>63187557
Did they really name a character "snoke"?

I know this is a world designed by a perpetual bearded man-child, for perpetual manchildren, but even this is cringe inducing.
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>>63190125

Snoke's full appearance is only in one scene (probably the final stinger) so they're probably gonna be working on it until release. Like the purple drank guy in the Avengers.
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>>63189658
>25ft tall alien

Serkis said he was up on a really tall platform, not that the character is that tall. If he's like the new emperor it would make sense for him to address people from a podium. Sheev always had the high ground in his throne room, too.

I"m in favor of this being Snoke: >>63189520. It would fit with Abrams trend of using OT concept art for the new movie's aesthetic.
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>>63190191
JJ said the movie is finished last week. I don't think they have any reason to lie and they are probably done with Snoke by now.
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Does anyone really think we'll see Snoke in TFA?

JJ is unironically going for maximum poetry with this movie and, just like with the abscence of Sheev in ANH, I really doubt that this guy is going to be crammed into this movie alongside Kylo Ren, Phasma and Gleeson.

Also, is it confirmed that Rey's arc involves her taking Kylo's place as Snoke's apprentice before redeeming herself at the end of Ep9?
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>>63190224
Serkies stated he is in a scene with Kylo and Hux.

>>63190246
Old Kylo Ren concept art when he was still a cyborg and Finn was swhite, fuck off, you will never hear about plaguies in a Star Wars movie ever again.
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>>63190086
He was in Age of Memetron as a non-CGI character.
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I'm more interested in these guys. I'm sure this is a flashback, but what happened to them? I guess Snoke is gonna be the guy that raised / trained them.
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>>63190224
>Also, is it confirmed that Rey's arc involves her taking Kylo's place as Snoke's apprentice before redeeming herself at the end of Ep9?

Never even heard that. Considering episode 9 isn't even written yet, I'm pretty sure that it's not confirmed.
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>>63187557
just so you faggots know
EA are dropping movie spoilers left and right on twitch right now
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>sheev
>snoke

for what possible reason, why do they come up with such stupid fucking names
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>>63190283
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Snoke is Darth Plageius
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>>63190224

They're either going to do voice-only for Snoke and then reveal him in the last 15 minutes to counter Luke showing up in the last 15 minutes or he's just going to be everywhere since in all honesty Kylo Ren isn't menacing.
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>>63190343
lol no
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>>63190372
lol yes
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>>63190304
link?
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>>63190304
>battle of jakku aka we need an excuse to be the ones to show that star destroyer from the movie crashing, please buy the season pass goys
>noteworthy spoilers in any way

lel
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>>63190224
Why would they have Serkis do mocap if he wasn't going to be in the movie?
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>>63190334

Mads is confirmed to NOT be a villain and is not in the pic so I'm thinking he's gonna be a cool as fuck alien that they're still working on. Pretty hype for freaky alien Mads.
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>>63190304

is this true?
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>>63188873
Darth Icky
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BJ Dart
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>>63190246
Is every villain going to have a lightsaber now?
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>>63190447
Didn't they say they were gonna CGI Peter Cushing and have Grand Moff Tarkin in the movie? Darth Vader and Tarkin could conceivably be the Big Bads, it fits the time frame.

I wouldn't mind seeing Vader again in the spinoffs, I love that guy.
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Eternal GOAT. Jam-Jam Bonks
1. Darth Bane
2. Darth Icky
3. (DUDE) Some prehistoric Sith Lord (LMAO)
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9001. Shriveled up ole' Sheev
9002. Sheev's sekrit apprentice
9003. Darth Plaeguis
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90001. Some other member of Yoda's race
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900001. Random ass evil ayyliun
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>>63189786
is that Venom Sheev
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>Darth Maul
He mauls people and is mauled
>Count Dooku
He is Count Dracula
>General Greivous
He suffered greivous injuries
>Darth Sheev Sidious
He has many insidious tricks up his sheevs
>Darth Vader
He invades personal space quite often
>Supreme Snoke
He is a sneaky snake in the smoke and shadows
>Kylo Ren
Kylow can this series go?
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>>63190191
MPAA already saw the film
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>the death star is canon
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>>63190283
These are Snoke's disciples - they just killed Luke's padawans.
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>series known for poetry
>Sheev and Plagueis create Anakin
>he's good and becomes evil
>Sheev and Plagueis create Snoke
>he's evil and becomes good

screencap this post
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>>63190657
Brendan?
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>>63190612
>has many insidious tricks up his sheevs

What are sheevs?
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The only way this Snoke makes sense to me is if he’s Plagueis. Otherwise he’s just some anonymous baddy to replace Sheev, making the first six movies pointless. Who’s gonna say another anonymous baddy won’t step up to replace Snoke, once he’s gone?
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>>63190657
>It's a kids movie.jpg
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>>63190674
Yes?
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>>63190722
But this is ALWAYS what these franchises boil down to.

EVENTUALLY the "ultimate bad guy" will go down in flames, and then what? Disney is going to want to milk this ca$h cow until the utters are bone dry. New bad guys will be created and conquered numerous times. They can link them to an old villain, or some 'ancient evil', but they'll always be just a replacement for the old Sheev
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>>63190722
>unlimited bad guys
>unlimited movies
Now you're thinking with shekels!
UNNNLLLIIIIMITTTEEEDDDD POOOOOWWWWEEEERRRR
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None has even entertained the fact that Snoke could be plagueis's a clone of his bith master, Darth Tenuousness?

He's known for being a master of hiding in plain sight, as seen in the picture.
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>>63190722

Stop for a second and think about your argument here because you're literally saying that there can never be a villain in the SW universe again.
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>>63190756

GET A FUCKING JOB I NEED NEW SHOES YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
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>>63190788
You’re right. That’s what I’m afraid of.
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>>63190283
Knights of Ren?
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Snoke was grown out of Sheev's iconic dismembered 10-inch Jedi killing penis.
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>Snoke
>sounds like smoke
>there was a smoke monster in LOST
>JJ Abrams did LOST
Snoke is a smoke monster confirmed
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>>63190805
>Snoke
>plagueis
>Tenuousness

fuck
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>he has a staff
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>>63188837
he is the key to all of this
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>Snoke is a reconstructed shriveled-up old Sheev just like Vader was a reconstructed shriveled-up old Anakin

POTTERY
O
T
T
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What if Snoke is based Sheev using his Force powers to bring himself back from the netherworld?
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>>63190877
Then why would they need mocap on his mouth
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>>63190877
That's from the Jungle Book movie.
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>>63188786
I like the idea that Snoke is a Rakatan. Could Snoke be Rakatan?
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>>63190889
This. If you don't think pottery is going to be involved then you don't know shit about Star Wars
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>>63190929
what else are they going to do?
tape his mouth shut?
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>>63190657
He was a good friend.
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>>63190788
disney plan on releasing at least 7 more star wars films in the next decade, they need more villains and more storylines
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>>63190807
It thought the “message” of these movies was that you can overcome evil through love (inb4 gay). If new baddies keep showing up and building superweapons the message becomes that the heroes’ sacrifices are ultimately pointless. That’s fine by me, it just seems to go against the whole point of the saga.
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>>63190951
The Emperor LITERALLY EXPLODES.
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>>63190788
Yep. They're no better than any ordinary MMO plot.

Players killed the final boss? Lol guess who was ACTUALLY pulling the strings all along?
the next final boss
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>Obi-Wan Kenobi leaves a cantina, sensing the Force in someone. Suddenly, unbeknownst to Obi-Wan, an astromech droid serving drinks at Jabba's Palace is bumped into by Boba Fett, spilling one of the drinks from his tray. But before it can hit the ground, the droid, named R5-D4, is able to reach out with his mind and turn the drink back in its upright position and serve it to Jabba the Hutt; thankfully nobody had noticed what had just happened, as it had gone by so fast.

>One day, R5 removed his restraining bolt with the Force, and Force persuaded the Gamorrean guards to let him leave. R5 wandered the desert for days in search of his destiny, until finally he was picked up by a Jawa sandcrawler. There he had visions of Darth Vader and Princess Leia, and met R2-D2 and C-3PO. Eventually the Sandcrawler stopped, took all the droids out, and lined them up side by side in front of Owen Lars and Luke Skywalker. R5 immediately sensed the Force in Luke, and persuaded Owen to choose him. R5 was ecstatic at the undoubtable destiny that lay before him and Luke.

>However, R5 soon envisioned that, without Luke, stormtroopers would come and take R2 back to Vader, where he would be destroyed and Leia would be killed, leading to a chain reaction of horror that will include the Rebellion being destroyed, R2's memory being wiped after 3PO refuses to translate his 'rubbish', and Luke dying on Tatooine without ever fulfilling his destiny. R5 knew what he had to do, and suddenly set off a mild explosion inside himself, leading Luke to believe that he had a busted motivator. R5 then used the Force on 3PO, telling Luke to buy R2 instead. Owen did so, never knowing the great deed that R5 had just done.

>As the years went by R5-D4 began to feel resentment at his role in the Galactic Civil War and the refounding of the Jedi Order being overlooked and he eventually fell to the darkside and reemerged seeking revenge under his new title, Lord Snoke.
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>>63190991
>Disney
>giving importance to 'the message'
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>Snoke?

>I'm C.I.Rey
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>>63191002
Not from my point of view.
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Darth Bane revived
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>>63191111
What the fuck would happen to /tv/ if this were true? I'd honestly be scared.
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>>63191082
Unique to Star Wars looking costume... Nah fuck that lets just wrap her in bandages.
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>>63191111
>>63191152
Darth Bane started the rule of 2

If it was Bane, there wouldn't be more than one Knight of Ren
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>>63191002
Transfer Essence
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>>63189401
It was explained in Heir to the Empire
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Of course hes Plagueis

Its exactly the same as the Maul situation in the EU right now. Elements of the character are being purposefully restricted from usage because they have plans for them in the movies.

Reading the Darth Plagueis book, they wouldnt go 2 pages without describing him as a Munn. But now in the new EU, his race hasnt been mentioned a single time. Disney execs probably determined a Munn was too ugly to sell toys so they changed him
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>>63190696
sleeves
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>>63190395
nope
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>>63191268
But Jar Jar was Plaegius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq559Vzc5MA
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>>63191035

>As you can see, my young apprentice, your friends have failed.
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>>63190722
>Plagueis

Can we stop with this? He would just replace Sheev to and render the first six movies pointless.

Except Plagueis is an obscure EU character, so Disney gains nothing by using him instead of going OC
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>>63190929
Because it's screenshot from planet of the apes and not Star Wars.
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>>63191413
this is like those illuminati conspiracy videos
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>>63191483

But they had some of those mocap shots of the nigger
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>>63191495
I have no idea wtf you are trying to convey to me bro.
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I still think he's just a new character. He'll barely be in the movie. Here's the layout.

>Kylo Ren - Darth Vader: Has a role but is merely pushed by someone else.
>Hux - Tarkin: The true main villain, due to his role as commanding officer on a superweapon.
>Phasma - Fett: The literal nobody with 5 lines who exploded in popularity
>Snoke - Sheev: Guy who barely show up but have a presence, then do shit at the very, very end of the trilogy.
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>>63191633

But Del Toro has been cast as the main villain for Star Wars VIII which means Kylo will have to die or become good and Snoke will continue to stay in the background until episode IX at least.
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>>63191035
I remember this story.

For all it's faults, I loved the old EU for it's wacky one-offs
This one particular is like a parody of EU stuff where ever character on screen has some epic backstory even though they were only in one scene.
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movies gonna suck t b h
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>>63191709
>Star Wars has never had more than one villain in a movie
They won't pull a Maul on us again. Hux is the villain who will get killed off. Maybe Phasma too.
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>>63191709
Paint him blue with red eyes.
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SEARCH YOUR FEELINGS
YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE
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>>63191835
Good meme.

Plaguis meme is bad meme.

Keep it up.
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>>63191633
>Captain Phasma

See this choice is weird to me. Star Wars and Lucasfilm have always been very cosplay and fan friendly. I know Disney isn't advertising Slave Leia anymore, but I'm sure conventions will still have plenty of them walking around.

But then with Phasma, a bad-ass lady Boba Fett, how are ANY women going to be able to pull it off? Gwendoline is a giantess and much taller than an average girl. It seems weird for a bunch of tall guys cos-playing as a woman.
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>>63191807

Half of me wishes this would happen, but with thanos being sort of blue it would just confuse children. That and Thrawn doesn't have a spooky bad-guy voice or do random evil things. Children would find a super-competent pretty nice guy Imperial admiral to be a pretty boring villain.
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>>63191881

Cosplayers don't give a fuck about height. Also be prepared for a mountain of "sexy phasma" outfits where its just pieces of crome trooper gear paired with a bikini.
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>>63187557
I managed to snap a pic of what he looks like at an early screening our studio had the other night.
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>>63191974
looks like a predator
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>>63190877
IGNORE THIS PICTURE
THIS IS FOOTAGE FROM SERKIS IN THE NEW PLANET OF THE APES MOVIE
people cite this shit constantly (and that early kylo concept art) to suggest its Plagaeiousys (smaeioug)
SERKIS HAS STATED THE CHARACTER IS
E N T I R E L Y
NEW
WE HAVE NEVER SEEN SNOKE
NEW
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>>63191974
So he was giant spider?
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>>63191197
The Knights of Ren are posers. They're weak and not considered Sith.
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>>63191974
Does he stand in two legs?
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So, I kinda missed all that Snoke stuff.

Is he the leader of the Order? I thought Kylo was the leader.
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Why, exactly, did Jar Jar vote to give emergency powers to Sheev even after Padme telling him to vote in place of her against an army of the republic? I mean is there an official explanation for this or is it just a plothole?
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>>63191974
I'm inclined to call bullshit, but does that appear to be Hux he's talking to? Why did you get a screening?
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>>63192064
Snoke is the First Order's Supreme Commander, Kylo Ren is not technically part of the First Order. He is part of the Knights of Ren, and works with the Order, but appears not to directly be a part of it.
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>>63191974
>>63191989
>>63192035
>>63192055
>>63192069
this is the monster from Super 8, definitely not snoke
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>>63191974
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>>63192035
if you want the pottery spoiled, he is a hundreds year old creature thing (like Yoda) native of the planet Luke built his Jedi temple on after EP6. The site was built on some force magic shit (like Yoda's cave in Empire Strikes Back) which explains why he is force sensitive. He became corrupted by the dark side (unexplained in the movie) and helped the Knights of Ren destroy the Jedi temple (which you see in the flash back)
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>>63191974
looks Super Great
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>>63192067
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Snoke is Plagueis
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how exactly did the knights of ren manage to BTFO the new jedi order

snoke has to be plagueis or reserrected sheev, no one else would have the strength to stand up to luke

him being someone new that just happens to be able to go toe-to-toe with luke is just dumb
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>>63190199
>Sheev always had the high ground in his throne room, too.

>He steps down from his throne to electrocute luke
>Gives the high ground
>The taller Vader is able to overcome him

Who poetry here?
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>>63187557
Vader's father.
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>>63190447
>>63190334

Wouldn't get too hyped since the mouthbreather responsible for the last Godzilla movie is directing this.
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>>63190191
>probably the final stinger
Does every fucking movie need to have one of these now? Fuck
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>>63191709
He has been casted as a villan. Not as main villan
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>>63190191
Snoke is confirmed to be the "There has been an awakening" guy, I don't think that's a line saved for the end if the movie is called "The Force Awakens". He'll show up, they won't do a stinger.
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>>63187557
He's just a SNeaky blOKE
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>>63192259
Umm what? 30 years later Jedi Master Luke would BTfo Plagueis or Sheev. Sheev said so himself
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>>63192211
see image
>>63192259
snoke probably wasn't directly involved in killing the new jedi order, I think >>63190283 is def an image of the knights of ren slaughtering the jedi. I'm also inclined to believe kylo ren is probably han and leia's son, which luke sees as another great failure on his own part (to lose his nephew to the dark side) and part of the reason for his self imposed exile
nigga the new jedi are garbage. luke barely completed his training. The sith successfully eradicated the jedi archives as well, so all these newbies (like luke) are starting from scratch. sheev was barely introduced in a new hope or the empire strikes back so he was "new" and went toe-to-toe with luke
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>>63191974
Wouldn't even be mad. Some giant alien monstrosity sitting in a chamber leading an army of humans would be ace.
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>>63191197
>Rule of Two was a mistake - Darth Bane
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another nod AGAINST plagueis is Kylo having a shit lightsaber. If Snoke were a recent sith lord (I think he might be an ancient one) he'd at least of told his minion how to assemble a proper one.
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>>63192574
why would an ancient sith have a shit lightsaber

technology in the SW universe has stagnated for like 5k - 10k years
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>>63191082
Well at least that would fit into Kingdom Hearts.
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>>63192435
Yeah just like Khan wasn't going to be in Star Trek 2 right?
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>>63192574
Making your own light saber it's supposed to be something you do on your own as a final test. It's why vader remarks that lukes skills are complete in ROTJ.

Of course that could be taken in context to make EU stuff
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>>63192574
Kylo's lightsaber is an ancient design from the planet Ren. Probably the first prototype lightsaber, which is why it needs the exhaust vents
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>goes home
>rethinks life
>realizes his existence is meaningless
>joins the dark side in hopes that he can have an impact on the world
Death sticks guy is snoke
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>>63188837
I want this to be true just to watch the internet explode.
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>>63192686
How is that comparable?

Kahn is the most famous Star Trek villain for probably the most well knwon Star Trek film.

Plagueis is an obscure character that only matters in the EU. Hell, most casual Star Wars fans don't have any idea about him. Only EUfags, and then only a small subsection, gives a fuck.

Yeah no, Plagueis will never appear on film.
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>>63192830
>Snoke
>smoke

POETRY
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>>63192872
nah, if anything you'll have a bunch of people going "I TOLD YOU SO!"

Seriously, people thought jar jar wold be some villain trying to stab the jedi in the back even after the first movie because of the title.
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>>63192110

But the First Order is the Empire and Snoke is an alien
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>>63192879
>Plagueis will never appear on film.

Saying he won't appear in this movie ok I can understand, but saying stuff like this is just dumb. You have no idea if he'll appear or not, especially since they seem set on doing a ton of different Star Wars universe movies
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>>63188837
>>63191835
>>63192206
>>63192829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOf3hhsjtOg
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>>63193037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo7_qW4pPrc
http://darthjarjar.com/

oh my god I'm crying
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>>63192998
Fine, be pedantic, he could in theory appear on film, but the chance are close to fucking 0.

There is no money in Plagueis. Disney has no reason to use him. Characters like Vader and Boba are the money makers. That's why Vader is getting a cult around him in the next movie and Boba and Han are getting anthology films, because those are famous characters that will draw easy money. Plagueis is too obscure for Disney to bother and comes with too much baggage to use; Snoke being OC makes the most business sense.
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>>63189658
>A species that are 25ft high

They must be natural masters of the force. The only way they'd lose the high ground was if they were standing in a pit
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>>63193108
I doubt it. If they had that much mass it would be impossible for them to spin.
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>>63193106
Plagueis is still canon in Disney's world and one of the most powerful Sith ever, of course it makes sense to use him at one point.

You will have nerds online spreading hype for you in every corner of the internet, and hipsters pretending they knew him all along. He's also an easy bad guy already set up for you that you don't need to spend as long building
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>>63190595
Fuck off, manchild.
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>>63188837

so jar jar WAS the key
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>>63193153
What is and isn't canon isn't important. Robot Darth Maul is canon too, but that's also too stupid to ever appear on film. None of that cartoon shit is ever making it to the big screens, even if it is canon. And Plagueis is too obscure for Disney to give a fuck about him when they can just make their own OC. Snokei s gonna get a retcon about some ancient evil and Plagueis will only become even more irrelevant than he is already.
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>>63193106
>no money in plagueis

He's the only EU figure still in production so he's got hat going for him
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>>63187557
If the leaks are true (which is basically confirmed by 1st leak being accurate), Disney is "borrowing" the Yuuzhan Vong story a.k.a ancient evil from outer space awakens cliche
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>>63193224
I'm sure the sales are great.
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>>63193253
I have one
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Snoke Sheev Erry Day
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>>63193224
>2013 series
That's not really in production anymore.

He's in good company though. This guy will get a anthology movie for sure as well since they made a toy of him.

Seriously tough, who the fuck is this?
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>>63193311
>tfw I literally laughed out loud at this post
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what do you guys think the crowd thought when they saw empire strikes back in theaters, and it said "episode V". it was only the second movie, they must have been confused right?
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>>63190246
Old like the rest of the concept art which is pretty much all in the movie. Snoke is Plagueis and Kira has his staff.
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if snoke is a snake i'm gonna lose my shit
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You guys realize Lawrence Kasdan and JJ more than likely don't have a fucking clue who Plagueis is right?

Have you seen a lot of references to the prequels in what we've seen so far? The message here is loud and clear, OT actors, OT designs and OT tone. An asspull villain from the deep SW lore mentioned in once scene in Ep III goes against everything that these movies are trying to do. Expect zero references to the prequels or EU, expect even less an obscure character being pulled from them and placed center stage.
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>>63188738
>home planet is dagobah?
Source? I didn't think it had any sentient natives.
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>>63193577
>You guys realize Lawrence Kasdan and JJ more than likely don't have a fucking clue who Plagueis is right?

I'm sorry but if people actually think this they're dumb. People like to think actors and directors are these uncaring super cool millionaires, but the reality is that when they take on a job they usually spend a lot of time reading around their character/universe so they understand the feel of it and can immerse themselves fully.

The idea that JJ wouldn't know the most powerful Sith Lord ever is just crazy, no matter how large your hate boner is
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>>63193646

They didn't hire the screenwriter of ESB and RotJ so they could pull obscure characters from the prequels.
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>>63193674
That's not what i'm saying though is it? I'm just mocking the idea that the director + writers don't know somebody like Plagueis
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>>63193577
Finally some wisdom.
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>>63193646
>I'm sorry but if people actually think this they're dumb. People like to think actors and directors are these uncaring super cool millionaires, but the reality is that when they take on a job they usually spend a lot of time reading around their character/universe so they understand the feel of it and can immerse themselves fully.

lol

Yea, JJ and Kasdan spent weeks reading shitty EU fan fiction to make sure they do justice to the 15 guys that give a fuck about EU.
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>>63193724
Of course they don't. In fact, Kasdan proved as much when they asked him directly.

Why the fuck would he know some shitty EU character no one gives a fuck about and that has nothing to do with the films?

EUfags are so delusional.
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>>63193674
>>63193761
>>63193646
JJ directs the movie, it's not like he had a wookiepedia exam before starting the shootings. if anything, a director should stay away as far as possible from the shitpool that is the EU, as it would be literally impossible to integrate that correctly into a proper new SW movie that would be true to all of the shit that happens in the EU
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>>63193793
That's not the reasoning I put forward at all though.

When people get involved with projects on this level they tend to do a lot of reading around the subject, that's just how people work in the movie business.

Of course JJ is aware of some of the major characters, especially one that's outright namedropped in one of the films
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>>63193875
>When people get involved with projects on this level they tend to do a lot of reading around the subject, that's just how people work in the movie business.

Source?
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>>63193882
Oh right, I forgot this place is full of /v/tards these days. never mind
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>>63193893

So you just made it up then?
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>>63193893
>source?
>never mind
alright then
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>>63193875
EU is not canon. EU was never canon. EU never mattered. It was sanctioned fan fiction. It's gone now.

Move on. EU is not important for disney to waste time educating their screenwriters and directors with.
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>>63187557
Snoke is a Rakatan or is in league with the Rakatans
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I just want a NEW ORIGINAL CREATION.

It's fucking Star Wars, you literally have your pick of the world's greatest creature designers. Half of whom probably picked their profession because of this series. No more of this bland generic modern Western creature design, no Cloverfields or Super 8s JJ.
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>>63194012
>EU is not canon. EU was never canon. EU never mattered. It was sanctioned fan fiction. It's gone now.

Sure, buddy...
Sure...
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It's obvious really. Plagueis wanting immortality isn't some crazy delusion, Qui Gon cracked the code. Powerful Sith Lords like Bane could become ghosts, but their spirits were bound to their possessions. Real Force Ghosts can go anywhere and influence the Force as a whole.

Plagueis died but then was reborn thanks to his experiments. In the book Aftermath, Sheev senses some Dark Side energy brewing beyond the known galaxy and sent scouts and scientists to investigate. That was Plagueis waiting in the wings. He corrupted those investigating troops and now they've come back from literally out of nowhere as the First Order. That's why the Rebellion is so surprised by the First Order's appearance, they though they had stopped the Empire but these few troops like Hux and Phasma were enhanced by Force Ghost Plagueis and are unlike anything they've fought before.

The whole reason Plagueis was out there in the first place was to investigate the origins of the Force, like the midichlorian planet Yoda visits in the Clone Wars or the Force beings Anakin and Ashoka encounter on Mortis. Ren is either a planet or a person but either way it's linked to Force wielders that the Knights of Ren, sensitives Plagueis has plucked from throughout the galaxy - many probably Luke's former students, are styled after, meaning that none of them wield lightsabers. Kylo's weapon is in fact a copy of the first protype lightsaber ever made which explains its rough design.

Plagueis needs Kylo to accomplish his goal because, as hinted somewhat in that Clone Wars episode, the Skywalkers being born of the Force makes them into sort of halfblooded Force Celestials and are able to bend it to their will. Plagueis corrupts the Force from within while his 'son' Kylo controls it externally. Luke went into hiding because Plagueis is pervading through the Force and it takes all his will to hold him back. That's why he sends Kylo after Luke's lightsaber, so that it can be used to track Luke and kill him.
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>>63190805
Tenebrous*
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I hope that he will be a big guy. There was that asspull theory about him being 30 feet tall and it would be pretty great. They could foreshadow it in a neat way. He shows up only on holograms so you don't really get a sense of how big he is. And some of the main corridors on the new death star are big, semingly for no reason.
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>>63191196
then /tv/ would be even more focused on "muh womyn powah"
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Why you getting so excited over a franchise that's been butchered over a kids movie rated pg?
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>>63193092
0:32 my sides
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>>63194740
thanks anon.

i'm not a super SW geek but my interest has peaked now that the movie is only like 2 weeks away.

but do you think plagueis is Serkis or someone we won't see in the seventh?
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Just to establish something because I noticed this thread and keep seeing this posted:

Plagueis isn't an "EU character".

He was mentioned in Episode III, and the new canon shit mentions him as Palpatine's master a few times. It's not like Revan or Mara Jade where they 100% don't exist. The events in the novel titled "Darth Plagueis" are obviously non-canon, but that doesn't erase the fact that he was discussed in a pivotal scene in one of the 6 films.

He's still not Snoke though, they're probably going to go the ultra-shitty "AN ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENS" route.
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>>63194983
inb4 its the muur talisman

or the yuuzan vong
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>>63192288
>Vader's father.
Plagueis
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>>63187557
>SNOKE
>SHEEV

YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

ANDY SERKIS SHOULD JUST HAVE PERMANENT CGI DOTS IMPLANTED IN HIS FACE

ALL HE DOES IS THIS CGI SHIT
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>>63187557
I think he worked here for a season and the name stuck with him.
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>>63195054
vader's father had to be plaguesis. he was the only one who was so powerful that he could impregnate a woman with the force, hell he is one of the only sith to have mastered sith alchemy
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>>63194983
in the Tarkin novel he even mentions Plagueis' droid 11-4D
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>>63194012
reminder that all this shit is canon, Disney just decanonized the EU to hand pick whatever story they see fit and use it as source material.
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>>63190657
It's nice to see Paul Walker getting back out there again.
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>>63189988
Darth Venamis was actually a thing. He was plagueis's master's secret apprentice. He tried to 1v1 plagueis, got rekt, and plagueis experimented on him for years, killing him and reviving him untill he decided to just Venamis die.
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>>63195340
I still don't understand why they changed Korriban to Moraband
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> Wholly giving himself to panic, Nome escaped Plagueis' body to think about a way out, only to discover his mummified remains. Time had passed, but the Sith Lord was unaware of it. He then wondered if his foresight, instead of being eliminated, had been twisted in upon itself, forcing him to endlessly relive his death. At that moment of realization, the Dark Lord wished he still had a mouth with which to scream.
Woah so deep
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>ENTER: the secret citadel planet of the First Order. KYLO REN bows before SUPREME LEADER SNOKE.

KYLO: Master, I have failed you.

SNOKE: It matters not, my young apprenticcccce. Thisss is merely a ssssmall sssssssetback to the plan.

KYLO: But, the loss of Starkiller base...?

SNOKE: Ssssssoon we will have a basssse much more powerful. When I convert the sssssscion of Sssssskywalker to the dark sssssside... Then out ssssssupremacccccy will be unquesssstioned...

KYLO: Yes, my master.
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>>63195575
This is so saturday morning cartoon, I love it.
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>>63192435

that image doesn't mean shit. he can pull some obi-wan shit about how it's a new character from a certain point of view
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What if snoke is another one of yodas race?
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I hate how they changed his voice over time during post-production. How he sounded in the first teaser was literally perfect.
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>>63195447
One of Lucas' stupid decisions for TCW. He apparently preferred the name Moraband.
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>>63195575
That feel when this is exactly how it's going to be
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I really REALLY hope its sheev in some form (force ghost shadow manifestation, a body jump, robot, etc) And then by episode 9 he's rebuilt his body and we get Ian Mcdiarmid back tbqhwy. Having snoke not played by him in the first film sets the reveal up nicely.
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>>63195857
That feel when they are going to clone Vader from his melted head and put Sheev's ghost in it
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>>63195107
Holy shit I had that
Them homemade snowcones
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>>63195575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQa8VL8bUg
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>>63194983
>Revan or Mara Jade where they 100% don't exist
except all basis to establish Revan is now canon
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>>63195857
No. Fucking stop this bs already. This would make the events of the OT be for nothing. The only previous character that would be acceptable for his identity would be Plagueis, and even that is a pretty shitty idea.
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>>63195944
It won't happen. Kylo stole his entire design, and honestly does it better.
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>>63190805
>Bith Lord
P O T T E R Y
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>>63195340
Am I not seeing Kamino?
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>>63195952
um no? Its like saying a new hope and empire strikes back were for nothing because they didn't defeat the empire in those. This needs to be looked at as a series and Sheev maintaining big bad status across it is vital for it to work IMO otherwise it might as well be a spin off not Starwars 7,8 & 9.
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>>63189786
snoke is wearing the exact same robes as senator jar jar
weird huh
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>>63190283

jesus the more I see trailers for this show I can feel how hardcore they went with a more modern filming style.
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>>63195575
Cont:

SNOKE: Kylo, am I a venomoussss ssnake or a non-venomousssss ssnake?

KYLO: Why master?

SNOKE: Becuassssse I jussst bit my tongue
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>>63196071
>someone erased it from the archives
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>>63196218
KYLO: you're a big snake
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Smoke?
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Right here
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There has been an awakening... have you felt it?
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>>63196316
Snoke weed every day ayy ayy ayy
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>>63196318
No, thats snek.
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>>63196156
Just watched the OT again and the directorial style of ROTJ has really not aged well. ESB on the other hand feels iconic.

I'm hoping that the new trilogy tries to emulate Empire while also apparently having a "new" style.
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Darth Sebulba

>be hot shit numba 1 podracer in the universe
>get beat by a fucking toddler
>toddler cheated using space magic
>after years of substance abuse and depression seek to get revenge
>get trained by spider maul
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