just watched all of Amazons new series the man in the high castle.
really enjoyed it, but I'm a sucker for anything with fascists in it. what are yah thoughts, theories or outta 10's for it?
pic related
>>63106973
What's going to happen to Thomas
thought it was pretty damn good. could've been somewhat more solid with acting and what not, but the final scene honestly gave me happy chills as an American patriot.
i dunno, i thought maybe Heydrich would kill him and save John the inevitable existential trouble of killing his own son... but alas
>>63106973
I am the only one who fucking hates this cunt?
I found her pretty annoying, bit like a more competent version of Skylah from breaking bad. Frank annoyed me alot as well desu. John Smith is why I kept coming back.
I would happily be a Nazi collaborator in this universe. Fuck the Resistance. Every rebel character is boring, petty, or pathetic. Kido, Tagomi, and John Smith were the best things about the show.
>>63108020
I found the villains to be more likable than the leads. Especially that Japanese inspector dude and Smith was obviously badass.
Amazon paid me $25 to watch the pilot before they released it on their streaming service and review it. I wonder how it turned out but I'm not especially excited by it overall.
Not exactly a resistance member, but I did find Wagner relatable.
I thought it was interesting how only Tagomi uses the I Ching, while in the book pretty much every character in the pacific states does.
What was with that inter-dimensional bit at the end? Kinda lost me.
>>63108830
>Kido, Tagomi, and John Smith were the best things about the show.
This. I couldn't stand the love triangle shit. I just wanted to see more of the world.
> post yfw THEY PLAY THE GODDAMN TWIST BY CHUBBY CHECKER AFTER REVEALING THE BIGGEST TWIST IN HE SERIES
The time in the Neutral Zone made me want a Fallout movie so bad. That fucking bounty hunter was perfect. The sleeper agent guy was pretty sweet too, but fuck, the main actors were total shit.
>>63108830
Lem is cool
I was copmpletely rooting for the 'bad guys' in this show. does that make me a bad person?
yep.
P.S John Smith was fuggin /fa/ as well.
>all these shit releases
.avi? ITS 2015 ffs, wheres the 1080 mkv
>>63109119
>not having Amazon Prime
I liked how Juliana acted. Always keeping her hands in her lap, avoiding eye contact, being respectful, walking like joan from mad men.
I feel like the appeal of this show is not the story but how the characters react to being in a society dominated by nazis/japanese.
I really hope Tagomi was just having a daydream or something you don't need to ruin this story with dimension travelling.
>>63109136
But dimension traveling is already part of the show with the films
>>63109043
>That fucking bounty hunter was perfect
Yeah, "fooking legend" was pretty based in this too.
>>63108020
Literally the most useless cunt in this show.
Only good character in the resistance is Ed. A real friend and human bean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFM2xZ7dytk
when I was just watching the first episode, wasn't really digging it until this scene. the spookyness of a super happy nazi sherrif complete with offhand comments about burning people who were a 'drag on the state'... I cam.
Based trade-minister. Arguably the most likeable character in the series.
>>63108020
She can't act.
The whole shitty story with around her and her bf is dumb as fuck.
>>63109254
Why did they have to color correct it so drab. I'd like it if the show how a nice upbeat color tone entwined with the nazis.
I'm gonna give this show a watch based on the good comments on this thread. Originally I thought the premise was just too implausible to make any story worth it but we shall see.
>>63108903
It's shitty.
The nazi aesthetic is great but they don't know where they are going.
At the end the chink just concentrate himself really hard and slide into another dimension.
kek
They butchered the fucking book (and I don't like the book).
>>63109299
Am I dense or are his kid and wife dead?
Post yfwAdolph Hitler, one of history's biggest villains, was unironically presented as a cool old man who chilled out watching movies and was always two steps ahead of his foes
good political drama
Absolutely shit romantic triangle with the main characters
If they drop the romance and get rid of that one bitch that can't act I'd say make a season 2.
Seriously though is that chick like the producer's niece or something, god damn she sucked.
>>63109136
>you don't need to ruin this story with dimension travelling.
When the writters decided to make the "grasshopper lies heavy" into a movie (movieS, really ? fucking retards) instead of a book like in the original story, they turned the whole show into nazi sliders.
I watched the damn thing to see how they would explain how they get the movie and those hack just show the chink closing his eyes and waking up into another dimension. Wow, I don't know who came with this idear but the guy is a fucking genius...
They clearly don't know where they are going.
>>63109337
She's not a good actress but the script is what ultimately fucks her character over. I mean, all the retarded shit she pulls off for no logical reason, without giving any fuck about putting the lives of her close ones at risk.
>>63109436
Yes, they're dead.
>>63109443
>hitler was a villain
he just wanted to protect his nation from the scourge of international usury and spiritual decay, anon
I will be streaming The Man In The High Castle starting with season 1 in 10 mins anyone interested?
So how did they end up depicting the Neutral Zone? Fallout wasteland?
>>63109560
I agree with you about this.
http://www.hitbox.tv/Sheev66
Starting: S1 Episode 1 in 5 mins
>>63109633
It's pretty much Delaware.
>>63109633
old western town.
>>63109784
Is this weorth a watch?
>>63109633
They just showed one town , basically a small depleted Rocky Mountain mining town with no laws
>>63106973
>fascists
Are they Italians? No? Then they aren't fascists.
>>63109850
Yeah, the setting and politics are god tier but the main characters are retards
>>63109784
Starting now. Episode 1 senpai.
>>63109872
Funnily enough they didn't mention Italians at all
My only exposure to this has been through webms on /tv/. That one scene where the nazi commander looking guy coolly walks over to another dying nazi, takes his gun, and shoots the shit out of what I imagine to be a hitsquad was badass.
>>63109907
Why would they? Pic related.
1. Joe is most likely Hitler's kids
2. Hitler is trolling the resistance. Win or lose he gets the tapes
3. Tapes showed Hitler he probably won't win a war against Japan, which is why he won't go to war
4. Hitler is the good guy?
5. Not sure how these tapes are coming about. Doesn't seem like you can physically transport to other realities.
>>63109998
>1. Joe is most likely Hitler's kids
What evidence is there of this
This is a fucking fan fiction tier idea
What the fuck was that ending?
So its all a dream within some old surviving jap foreign minister's head?
^ agreed. I find that very unlikely. I thought maybe John's kid for a bit, but I dont think so anymore.
>>63110062
>^
>>63110059
Ya I mean like, what?!
Its cool and all, but it creates a shit load of questions. Did he spiritually connect to the prime timeline? Or what the crap is going on? There isn't any indication of anything occurring to allow for anything like that to happen.
Very, very weird.
Where are the italians?
what happened to lieutenant winters in this timeline?
gonna spoil the book for you, but basically Juliana's equivalent character travels across america to meet the man in the high castle with Joe Blake's book version (Who's italian) and when she meets him it's revealed by using the I Ching that the The Grasshopper lies heavy's timeline is real.
Fuggin weird ending.
>>63110113
Italians are never relevant.
But srsly, where were they, the Brits, and the Soviets? That Nazi sniper shooting the Jap prince had a Soviet sniper rifle.
This show is what Jessica Jones should have been.
>>63110159
Honestly, I'm even more confused now. Kind of a stupid premise 2bh.
>>63110169
He looks like that painting of Saturn eating his kid
>>63110216
Yea I'm getting spooked just looking at it. The dude looks high as a kite in that pic. He's on that loud Nazi speed.
in the book they are still around, but they aren't really that relevant. sorta insinuated to be nazi proxy state.
Africa was basically liquidated to make some fucking massive 'new' germanic country (Atlantropa)
most of the slavic countries have been culled.
also Hitler was already incapacitated by syphilis in the book. Bormann is already the fuhrer.
John Smith isn't in the book at all and easily my fav character. go figure.
God the Marshal is fucking awful. Least intimidating man o the planet
>>63108883
When you think about it, the 'villains' are the ones holding their version of the world together and this bitch is basically apart of ISIS.
>>63110349
>and this bitch is basically apart of ISIS.
TOPICAL
Hitler is the man in the high castle and hes basically won the war and changed history with the help of the films. He's manipulated the resistance into collecting the films without viewing them in exchange for small tips that would help them fight the Nazis in ultimately irrelevant ways because if he had the SS officers collect them they would be more likely to view them and discover what they are, and possibly use them against him to gain power
Am I getting this right?
>>63110169
>where were they, the Brits, and the Soviets?
The nazis conquered all of them, duh
>>63110705
Yeah, that's totally plausible, not. And no mention of Canada, who I thought for sure would be part of some resistance considering their English/French history.
>>63109988
Because the nazi undercover agent is supposed to be italian in the book (if I remember correctly).
>>63109998
>5. Not sure how these tapes are coming about. Doesn't seem like you can physically transport to other realities.
It's just nazi sliders.
Maybe Nazi saucers that can interdimensionally rift thru alternate realities are doing this?
>>63110799
You just have to close your eye to travel to the other dimension.
What a fucking joke.
>>63110830
And hold some JEWelry (cough semites cough).
Guys, how closely does this show follow the book?
I haven't read the book yet, and am going to soon, so I don't want to spoil the plot for myself by watching the show.
Since when was Gibson cast on the show?
>>63110921
They're somewhat different. The book is just 300 pages of pawnshop shenanigans.
>>63110921
Very different from the book. I think they wanted to do a story just using the MITHC universe but they didn't knew where they were going so they went back to the book. That's why they introduce the antiquarian so late in the serie.
All the love story crap and the movie collection thing isn't in the book.
In the book, the man in the high castle wrote a book called the "grasshopper lies heavy" with the help of the yi jin. He didn't traveled to another dimension to bring back movies.
The book isn't really good. Try something else from K. Dick first or you'll think he's a hack.
Try "The penultimate truth" but don't read the wikipedia article, it will spoiled it.
>>63111222
Alright, sweet. Thanks for the recommendations anon.
Nice double trips, too.
Shang Tsung aged horribly
>>63111256
He's probably on a strict no souls diet.
Easily the most likable person on the show. The Japanese inspector is a close second, I can respect a man that's willing to sacrifice for the greater good.
>>63111346
>The Japanese inspector
Wasn't he a gay priest in OZ ? Or maybe he's gay irl.
I can't see anything than the priest from OZ when I see him.
>>63111346
based obergruppenführer-fu
>>63111423
>based obergruppenführer-fu
>not obergruppenfü
IT'S RIGHT THERE!
>>63110737
It isn't any less plausible than them conquering the US...
As for Canada, nobody cares
The book was better.
yup just finished the last ep an hour ago and came on here and stumbled on this thread.
pretty much agree 100% with the sentiment that the antagonists are more interesting than the protagonists. the barbie looking love interest doesn't make any sense -- but isn't that the point? women in general don't make sense, and especially when they fall into some fucking love triangle. i give her a pass. the kike character literally makes no sense. he chooses barbie who walked out on him over his blood. has multiple chances to get out of dodge, and yet stays completely defying all reason and logic, even after he's become fully aware that barbie has love triangle with another dude.
Joe Blake. Has some ugly kike looking wife at home and kid. I can't say I blame him for falling in love with barbie but I wouldn't throw everything away because of pussy. He should've just fucking hit and quit it -- gotten it out of his system.
The central mystery in this show will not have any logical explanation. This will go sci-fi. Might turn to complete dogshit like Heroes seeing how they're just writing it as they go along.
>>63106973
It's ok, it's a bit childish but i like it.
>that foreshadowing with the kid.
>>63112428
>seeing how they're just writing it as they go along.
You also feel this ? Glad I'm not the only one.
I don't know what they will do in season 2 because there's nothing more in the book.
>>63112428
Yeah, agreed, most of the characters on the show make no sense and behave completely illogical and different from how a normal human would behave. The only one who makes sense is the obergruppenfuhrer.
>>63110617
Hitler is using both the SS and the resistance to collect the tapes. I'm guessing the SS is under strict orders not to watch them.
Kotomichi is from another universe
So what was up with that ending? Was it all a dream?
>>63109998
4. He always was
>>63114624
It was all some crazy jap's wet dream while he was dozing off on a parch bench in 1960s San Francisco.
>>63109585
Yeah, he also allied himself with USSR, invaded almost entire Europe, killed around 11 million people in death camps and was such a sore loser he killed his dog and himself.
Genocide aside, he was an insecure fag.
>>63116018
Found the Semite
>>63114624
His assistant sent him over because hes working with Einstein to fix the timeline.
>>63109998
>5. Not sure how these tapes are coming about. Doesn't seem like you can physically transport to other realities.
Some guy is writing a book and it presents a new reality and basically don't worry about it because Phil K Dick was high on something when he wrote the novel.
most based reporting in
>no answers
It's TheL O S Tovers all over again
>>63119127
this
I bet Lindelof wrote it
>>63108020
Thats fucking Keyra, kid.
>>63108020
I couldn't give a shit about the resistance. All the Neutral Zone shit was so fucking boring. Thankfully, Smith and Tagomi save the show.
>>63119665
This, I was way more interested in the politics and Cold War-esque shit.
Wait, is Adolf the man in the high castle?
Also Obergruppenführer Smith was the best.
>>63119754
The shows writer said we weren't going to be seeing the man this season. I think it's just a false reveal type of thing.
>>63108020
>female "lead"
This show is incredible shit, it lacks any engaging characters and just jerks itself off to the fictional setting that gets old in like 2 episodes.
>>63108020
No.
Plus she has tiny tits with dark nipples
>>63119838
You're missing one of the better character arcs in TV.
Did the ever mention the diner owner being Muslim before? The Marshal just starts talking about how he thought he didn't eat pork or something. I don't even remember them talking to each other before that scene.
Can someone please tell me about Obergruppenfuhrer Smith? What's his background, motivation, and personality like? I heard that he doesn't have a sense of humour and that's about it.
>>63120021
Did you watch the show?
>>63120070
No, from the sounds of things it's not worth watching- ill probably get around to it at some point but just wanted to hear more about the character
>i like to waste my time snacking on garbage
Ok, OP. Ok.
Will there be a season two?
>>63120407
No. it was a mini-serie. The ending was left open likeL O S T
>>63119783
>has lots of films
>lives in a castle up in the Alps
He's is literally the man of the high castle
So. Tell me if I get this right. Hitler didn't kill himself in his bunker but time-traveled somehow (Nazis were in occul shit, see Hellboy!) and won the war thanks to the films he took with him? Just like in BTTF2 with the sport almanach!
>>63109850
yeah, but 2bh I fast forwarded through the entire resistance storyline subplots. It's really boring and pointless.
I can't get the word Obergruppenführer
out of my head, i also repeated it a bit whenever someone said it on screen.
>>63120484
Wait, that's it? It's over? Well i liked the show but none of the storylines had a culmination.
>>63119754It'll be Heisenberg, with the Heisenberg device being a looking glass that looks into a parallel timeline.He'll have created the films with the device, sabotaged it, and put the films into hands that would get them to AmericaHe'll be trying to use the films as a measurement of the divergence so he can merge the timelines or some convoluted time/wormhole bullshit that will be a lot of effort to save a few people.The japs are trying to build their own Heisenberg device and will scramble to grab him and the Nazis don't give a shit one way or another because they know the device is useless now that the timeline is so different.
>>63120498
It's not a literal man in the high castle. It's just the name given to the guy that can travel or see the other dimensions.Tagomi is the actual man in the high castle.
>>63120852
>Tagomi is the actual man in the high castle.
No he isn't.
>>63109038
>Nazis banned 'Negermusik' during the Third Reich
>Soundtrack is full of jazz, swing and R&B music
>>63120884
The man in the book uses the I ching, Togomi is the only person in the show that uses it. There's also that subtle moment in the show where he actually travels to a different dimension.
>>63120549
You're retarded
>>63109038
Pure pottery.
>>63120668
>the Heisenberg device
That's what this world calls the A-Bomb; all you wrote is complete bullshit.
>>63121007
N-no you are
>>63121051
The alternative is that the secret to the parallel universe travel is zen meditation and that's retarded.
>>63121126
That's what it was in the original novel. Meditating on Frank's counterfeit goods (imbued with wu) sold via Robert Childan allows Tagomi to shift to another world.
Of course, this is because it's a Dick novel and the characters realize they are living in an alternate history work of fiction
>>63121126
It's less retarded than what you said, that's for sure.
>>63120668
Hello Lindelof
>>63110862
OK,
I get the angry girl
I get the nazi stuff
I get the other girl with the ski mask
I even get the AR hanging up
But what's with the milk?
It's in different sized jars
Why?
>>63121192
he watched too much Steins:Gate.
>they shot Akihito
Those bastards...
Have they explained how Germany invaded the USA?
In Star Trek the time travelling Aliens helped them.
>>63121241
The show didn't really get into it beyond nuking the shit out of Washington.
>>63121241
It's implied America surrendered because the germans developed the A-bomb first and they leveled DC. How? Apparently they invented V3 ICBM rockets at the same time, having the capabilities to nuke any American city.
>>63121241
Alien Jew technology
>>63110169
In the book they conquered the mediterranean and drained it with german tech. Irrelevant for the plot, since they never conquered anything in the new world.
>>63120484
Bullshit
http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/the-man-in-the-high-spotnitz-talks-amazon-season-two-40302/
>>63121241
Germans inventing and deploying the nuke and a subsequent civil war in the USA over whether to fight or surrender.
>>63121241
Nuked washington and amerilards surrendered.
>>63109112
For real, i wish it was appropate for me to dress like this everyday.
>>63109112
Yes.
You are literally /pol/tard
>>63110617
He didnt change anything, for us things are just the same.
>>63110830
This is clearly a meditation thing. As its implyed main girls sister went as well.
>>63121126
Its not just meditation, it self reflection and desire.
What if our reality isn't a parallel universe but a tv netflix show in their universe, the only one there is.
>>63119846
I'm waiting. Where's the proof?
