ITT: movies that you can only appreciate when you've got an above average IQ.
>>63095131
>>63095230
>tfw you finally get it
Bay is truly a genius
>>63095153
>Implying
All you need to do to appreciate that garbage is be a lonely beta autist weebo/chink faggot.
>>63095265
hi r/movies!
>>63095317
>Implying
Hey reddit!
>I'm so much smarter than everyone else
I hate hearing anyone say this and I hear it from most people.
>>63095265
bait?
What was this guys problem?! Why did he single out Tom when he was politely watching people fuck
>>63095265
a lonely beta autist weebo/chink faggot
hey reddit!
>>63095131
>>63095248
It's unironically true with Pain and Gain
>>63095376
Because it's a movie and Tom was the protagonist.
>>63095375
>>63095385
>Actually defending that garbage
Welp, found the redditors.
>>63095131
>i am very smart
>>63095469
lol was gonna say this
News flash people
If you have to declare you're "above average iq" you're likely an idiot
>>63095429
well said bro! you from r/flicks too?
>>63095413
your post has added more to the mystery.
As a character, what was redcloaks problem?
Had he endured a bad day and felt like taking some aggression out on one individual?
Did it sexually arouse him?
>>63095563
It amazes me how plebs dont get how much of a masterpiece this film was. The ultimare satire
>>63095454
YES.
If they get the ending.
I actually compare HM to the Matrix Trilogy.
"Know Thyself"
>>63095406
god damn I love this movie. I'd never in a million years expect /tv/ to hate breaking bad but like pain & gain
>>63095131
You do realize this movie has nothing to do with secret societies, right?
You do get the fact that the setting was a metaphor, right?
You do get the concept of social hierarchy, masks, protocols and sex where symbolic for how fucked and dishonest society is, right?
You do get that the movie was about a man that lost interest in his life and tried to find purpose in the meaningless maze of social competition and primal trials, right?
Only to discover there is nothing at the end of the rainbow after all, right?
And that he finds out that the stability of this normal life had more [self guided] purpose than decadent debauchery and the alienation competition and social order brings, right?
The fact his wife finds the mask and realizes he found his way back, right?
But I guess "OMG CONSPIRACY AND SEX MAGICK!" works too.
![MV5BMTY2NDI2MTc2NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjA2NTQzMw@@._V1_SX640_SY720_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/D4lfrkk.jpg "MV5BMTY2NDI2MTc2NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjA2NTQzMw@@._V1_SX640_SY720_[1].jpg")
>>63096180
then explain why they steal their daughter at the end u kek
>>63096031
The general consensus has also been that Pain and Gain is good
>>63096266
That's not in the movie at all.
The only true hostage in the film is Tom's character, and that's supposed to be symbolic of the way social hierarchies deal with the ambition of others, especially younger individuals.
>>63096199
fucking great
>>63096335
but the daugther literally walks away with two illuminati guys. you have to pay attention.
>>63095265
This is correct. I liked the movie, but it wasn't particularly challenging.
>>63095376
Cause Tom looks newbie as fuck.
>>63096434
That's the shop cleaners daughter, not Tom's characters daughter.
And it's symbolic of how debauched culture is spreading.
Earlier he tells men to leave her alone, but later he's for it.
And there is zero point to claiming they were "illuminati"... in fact the term "illuminati" isn't used once.
There are hundreds of "secret societies" in the world.
But it's all symbolic.
If you actually believe the world is run by the illuminati and the film was a warning, then how do you think the film got made and screened?
....?
The film is a clear metaphor.
>>63095511
He was gay for Tom.
>>63096550
but the freemasons are real and you can find all those symbols I mean you can't deny it. it's all over wikipedia it's not like I'm making this up. and all those references to the rockefellers and brainwashing I mean... imagine if Freud had seen this shit.
>>63096646
1.) Yes, the Freemasons are a real fraternal order that uses religious symbolism to teach their inner members symbolically related truths.
2.) The Freemasons are not the Illuminati, nor controlled by it. The Illuminati were an Atheist Bavarian Society that sought to infiltrate other Fraternal Orders in order to slowly change their thinking, moving it towards Empirical Thinking and Symbolism. It was squashed, and they never achieved any power.
The Freemasons and Illuminati opposed each other.
3.) Rockefellers and the Roth[e]childs were just self-interest rich people. They aren't even in the top 100 richest anymore.
4.) Fraud and Jung were not scientific in any way. They used confabulator cherry picking.
5.) There are secret societies. They just use symbolism to teach common sense to rich stupid people, and make them feel like they're magical and part of an important order.
I would know, I used to run a Fraternal Order.
6.) The APA has this to say on the subject:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_Task_Force_on_Deceptive_and_Indirect_Methods_of_Persuasion_and_Control
But the film uses these orders as metaphors for >Cliques and Social Competition
That's all.
>>63096813
yeah but that's what they want you to think. they operate in plain sight, that's what kubrick was trying to tell us!
>>63095131
Tarkman's Solaris
>>63096883
That's fairly childish, and I'll explain why:
1.) There is no evidence
2.) Burden of Proof
3.) Appeal to Paranoia/Fear
4.) Blame Shifting
5.) Argument From Ignorance
6.) Cherry Picking
7.) Implausible Organization of Humans and Systems due to Human Error
8.) You seem to cycle in circular logic and thought-terminating cliches.
People are too stupid to be controlled.
That's the problem.
It's not that they're too stupid to be free.
You can't control a population of fucks with narcissistic and paranoid personality disorders.
It just doesn't happen.
My Complex Analysis professor enjoys Michael Bay movies. Now tell me there's a correlation between movie taste and IQ.
Eyes Wide Shut discussions are among the stupidest on this board, though. 80% of the reasons people like, discuss, or revere the movie have NOTHING to do with what the movie is actually about. I guarantee whenever anyone on this board beats off over EWS, they're likely to be a huge moron, OP included.
>>63095131
ITT: If you get on board with OP you literally suck eggs in movie theaters and purposefully spill some egg juice on the girls that won't date you when their boyfriend is pissing
All that symbolism..
>>63097225
>complex analysis
>requiring high IQ
He's probably a physicist desu
>>63096335
Watch the ending again, your embarrassing analysis of the film is cringe worthy. It's not illuminati for sure, but it is dealing with the occult. To down right deny it is fucking absolutely retarded, the toy store at the end has magic circle play sets at the end you fucking mong. And yes the daughter get's kidnapped, your analysis is absolutely embarrassing.
>>63097062
>>63097286
I agree with these. Eyes Wide Shut is good but people look at it the wrong way.
>>63097457
Magic Circle is an actual toy, and just because something deals with the occult and has occult symbolism doesn't mean it's trying to be an expose. Next you'll tell me 2001 is a radical statement against technology. The fact of the matter is that the film ends on a character note, and the entire movie is about relationships. Can you dispose of the occult surface-level motifs and still have the same movie? Yes. Can you dispose of the relationship problems and the paranoia it creates and have the same movie? No.
>>63096199
>claims this is an intelligent movie
Tells you what to think about the characters in the title
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>maybe 4 actually intelligent movies posted including the OP
beating your average I see, /tv/
>>63097547
The entire party is literally kabballist tantric orgies, you are fucking retarded, of course the magic circle is a real toy, but it's not there for that purpose, it's there to represent the Sumerian circle.. And yes Bill's daughter get's kidnapped at the end, Alice was in on it and tried to distract it. And no you can't dispose of the occult themes in the movie, because the movie has so many occult props it's ridiculous, to say "it was a metaphor" is completely asinine, it's like saying Full Metal Jacket isn't a movie about individuals being reprogrammed by war, it's about some metaphoric endeavor into the psychosis of male insecurity. Fuck you and people who are even on the same wavelength. You are an embarrassment.
>>63095317
Anyone that'll try to win an argument, respond to a differing opinion by screeching the word "reddit" is a fool and should never have his/her opinion considered. Ever.
>>63097576
>Tells you what to think about the characters in the title
It doesn't. That's only how society viewed him. If you watched it, you'd see Jesse was the coward in reality, not Bob.
>>63095454
Really? Is there a linear, rational comprehensible "guide" to get this movie out there? Because I can only get bits and pieces
Demaine's "Dynamic Connectivity Lower Bound"
>>63097649
>And yes Bill's daughter get's kidnapped at the end, Alice was in on it and tried to distract it.
proof?
>>63095317
>>63095385
>>63095507
kill yourself
Primer
>>63097062
mental disorder =! stupidity
and these paranoid people are controlled just as much, only by different people (alex jones or whoever)
>>63095412
>>63095990
>>63097624
these, rest in this thread are pretty easy to understand/appreciate
>>63095131
I guess it must be Space Odyssey since I just finished watching and I'm confused.
>>63096180
You act like what you state is fact. Truth is filmmakers leave a lot to interpretation. To state that this movie has nothing to do with secret societies is nonsense. There's a detailed article explaining a lot of symbolism these socieities use and probably what Kubrick meant. How can you not see this was about secret societies? Dig a little deeper in Kubrick's life and you'll probably get the hint.
>>63099703
Space Odyssey was just really shitty. Most people who believe only people with at least so or so IQ will appreciate [enter flick here] are actually sub-average in IQ, which is the only reason why they can enjoy it: it makes them feel smart.
t. 164 IQ officially tested.
