Happy Thanksgiving Edition
Post your work, pitch your ideas, and pretend any of us are gonna make it.Dedicated To: The Glassblowing Guy
>>63054715
My idea is to suck as much Jew cock as possible.
Will I make it?
>>63054735
More than likely, but you gotta suck the RIGHT jew cock.
It's not about how many dicks go into your mouth, it's who's dick goes in.
Idea: A movie that doesn't follow dramatic structure
>>63054777
Trips confirm fucking groundbreaking
Guy is on the verge of losing his penis. Tries to hook up with as many girls as he can, they all reject him/treat him like a leper. Eventually settles for prostitute, it falls off while she's blowing him. I don't know how dark/bittersweet I want it to end though. I was thinking of having him say something along the lines of "I'm free" aftet it falls off
>>63054763
Harvey Weinstein.
Although i do not blow glass, i am glassblower guy. looking for some critique on a gig i had for a local client that just released today.
Im majoring in Digital Cinematography and I'm using a Sony Nex-fs700
heres the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkDVR-qizxQ
pic related
Its the Fall Flame Off
>>63054892
I also made a trailer for it if interested
>>63054763
confirmed for picking the right one is key
*_*
>>63054904
Definitely get the Trailer in. Most people don't have particularly long attention spans, so catch their interest with a short thing first.
>>63054926
got you
>>63054892
>>63054904
>>63054920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3awuB3F5IdA
bump
>>63054777
Its not super original. But make sure you know conventional dramatic structure before you decide you dont want to use it. You can break rules if you do not know the rules.
>>63054715
Just did a small editing job to get the rent pay. Still working on the docu-series pilot. And we got a budget assigned to the music video im working on.
some older stuff.
https://vimeo.com/116869358
https://vimeo.com/97541594
>talk to friends about wanting to film
>they all say they're on board but literally nothing ever comes of it
>nobody ever commits and is always all talk
who know this torturous feel here
>>63056042
im a one man team on all my endeavors buddy. i know the pain
>>63056042
Been there. The worst thing you can do is work with friends. The dynamic is based on friendship and not around working.
Look for art clubs, strangers, students.
>>63056042
The point isn't to just talk about it once. Have 4+ hourlong conversations about film shit or just whatever. The folks that stay engaged the longest are the ones that you can build something with. In order to get people on board with a monumental task like a film, you have to be personally invested.
>>63056066
it's crazy. i've been writing for like ten years and have done nothing but write for the past two or three and i just can't seem to get something together.
>>63056096
do shit yourself. it gets done. that glassblowing video was all me no help
>>63056115
what'd you do for sound? lavs?
>>63056125
im also a musician(prior to the cinematography degree) so I make a lot myself
>>63056096
>>63055986
Did you ever share your work? You cant write in a vacuum. You need to feedback with people or else you wont have any reference points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMZHo4ARiHo
finished doing this couple days ago
>>63056288
yeah plenty of times on
and generally always got overwhelmingly good feedback despite everyone there being a massive faggot.
>>63056323
damn that's stylized as fuck tbphwymfi/tv/(to be perfectly honest with you, my friend in /tv/)
>>63056331
No not internet. Im talking actual feedback. Where you sit down with someone. Textual is very strick A to B communication, its not engaging enough and its not challenging. You need to use words.
>>63056358
is that good or bad
>>63056323
I thought that was nifty. I always liked that song. Tell us more about this "13th Frames Film Festival."
>>63056405
good.
>>63056373
i have nobody to do this with IRL.
>>63056429
its just some random nothing festival that i got accepted to, nothing big or important, but still nice i guess
>>63056436
You have no one in your life? And you write about the human experience? weird.
Well anyways get atleast someone on skype. Textual feedbacking is complete shit. Feedbacking is dynamic.
>>63056323
I agree very stylish, abit empty but it seems to be a short exercise.
>>63056502
Well, the song itself i think is a short exercise...
>>63056502
no, i mean i don't have anybody to give me feedback on writing. i don't know any writers.
>>63056634
If you are still here i would definitely be willing to discuss writing techniques with you if you have a skype. I could give any feedback you need.
>>63056634
Theres a skype group you could join if you dropped your contact.
>>63056699
You could join aswell.>>63056708
You guys aren't going to make it what's the point? Just stop and go back to playing vidya
>>63056736
Sure.
My skype name is rapewich feel free to add me.
>>63056768
as i matured vidya didnt mature with me, its really fucking boring now. with movies its different, there are always smart and good movies released every year. As for filmmaking itself, well, i'd rather do it now with full force, than later be regretful about it on my deathbed. Even if i fail, i atleast tried.
Guys I have one or two ideas I think are pretty good but one day one anon posted this in one of these threads and said it's almost required to follow it. I mean I understand you need structure but doesn't it also kind of limit your creativity?
>>63056849
nothing is required anything
do it, if its good people will like it, if not not.
So these two guys who do movie marketing and have worked with a listers (De Niro was specifically mentioned) are giving a lecture next week about screenwriting, finding actors, cameras and also marketing related subjects. They're having a Q&A after.
They're also giving two internships next year. How do I impress them so my chances improve slightly?
>>63056849
the part about this that gets me is the return, i just don't get it. i understand changing, but why returning? same goes for harmon's story embryos.
>>63056882
Attend the lecture like this. No, seriously. Do it.
>>63056882
they probably served sandwiches to deniro and now are making a career out of this by impressing young fuck like you. ask them whats their favorite haneke film.
>>63056849
can someone give an example for this please
>>63056911
http://www.adweek.com/galleycat/breaking-bad-mapped-as-dan-harmon-story-circle/79471
>>63056929
Thanks
>>63056042
>friends
I don't even have anyone to pretend to be interested
>30 years old
>Never made a short film
>No contacts or equipment
I studied and worked in film in the past but that was almost 10 years ago. Is it too late to start over? If no, where do I begin?
>>63057122
Get cheap equipment and just start making shit, I guess. That's what I'm doing.
>>63057204
How's that going?
>>63057204
glassblower bro here
pic related
its what I'm working with
>>63057241
As you'd expect it to. When you don't have anyone else interested in doing it, it's hard. I just tell myself it's all practice right now and I'm building up my skills. I'm getting pretty decent at editing as time goes on.
>>63057254
>>63057122
>>63057204
Rent equipment. Per project the price stays really low. Its never to late altho to be honest you might have missed your momentum.
>>63057275
>Its never to late altho to be honest you might have missed your momentum.
How do you mean missed your momentum? Like missed the time where I'm young, optimistic and enthusiastic?
>>63057254
>>63057267
Did you buy all that? How much did it cost?
>>63057275
Definitely rent until you're sure you want to actually stick to it. I bought my wifes son a bunch of expensive equipment. He used it to make one half assed video of 11 minutes then never touched it again. Now it's collecting dust in my study. If anyone happens to be interested in a dolly tripod, a boom mic or a JVC GY-HM200E for a reasonable price let me know
>>63057312
came with my tuition.
was also mac rapped by the college
for media its useful though
>>63057324
The thing I'm apprehensive about renting is being able to get enough time to get familiar with and confident using the equipment.
>>63057312
>>63057122
you need a dslr - 300-500 $
audio recorder - i use zoom h6 that was 400£ brand new
a tripod - anywhere from 50 to 500$
and couple of lights
thats it,with all of this you can make perfectly decent little short film that will win you awards at the festivals if its good.
>>63057340
always rent the same shit camera wise watch tutorial videos on that model
>>63057329
What school/program?
>>63057301
Dude, pic related. Please don't get discouraged. The way I look at it is, if there are more of us out there making indie movies, even if they aren't great, that's one less bullshit >flick I have to sit through. Everybody has the means now, I want to watch KINO made by us.
>>63057324
>dolly tripod
How smooth is it and how does it even roll? Wheels or track? I've never worked with a dolly.
>tfw you realize you're not gonna make it
How make cheap dolly track myself
>>63057353
Full sail university. Digital Cinematography. Right as I got my camera and all my shit, my father came close to his death bed so i had to take a leave of absence as a junior. even though it sucks having to be on leave so close to the finish its given me time to play with my camera and get used to it and pick up a couple local gigs before going back
>>63057392
indy mogul on youtube
>>63057407
based fucking anon
>>63054816
brilliant
>>63057393
>>63057353
also this is roughly the same type of camera you would see being used during live interviews for the news. it sets you up to be able to do anything from commercials to the news to short and feature length films
>>63057392
put anythng on the end of a tripod legs will slide on any surface and push
>>63057444
also them trips
>>63054816
holy shit 10/10
>>63057345
How about an Iphone 6s, tripod and a rented XLR sound recorder with mic and a 3 point lighting kit?
>>63057392
PVC pipes cut into sections, make wheels from old/cheap skateboard wheels in a way that they sit either side of the pipes in a claw-like shape. Make sure to find wheels with good bearings.
This is the first image I found with a google search which is sort of what I mean.
If you can make reliable wheel attachments, what people usually do is carry those with them, so if they shoot on someone elses sets etc, they just have to go to the local store to pickup a base and pipes.
>>63057476
with color correction my iPhone 6s plus is shooting beautiful pics and vids
pic related
>>63057476
i guess it could work, Tangerine was shot on iphone and a lot of people love it so why not.. but i think they used some special lenses or filming apps. (i dont know or care anything about iphones sorry you gonna have to google this shit)
>>63057492
>>63057492
Forgot pic my bad
>>63057492
>no image
>>63057497
there is nothing beautiful about this image desu senpai. but yes it is possible to get good images from iphone camera as few filmmakers proved in the past
>>63057519
>>63057521
>>63057531
SINCE WHEN T.B.H F.A.M IS AUTOMATICALLY FIXED TO DESU SENPAI SHIT? FUCKING WEABOOS FUCK OFF
>>63057521
I have no idea what I'm looking at here.
>>63057531
Yeah that movie Tangerine that came out recently was shot entirely on an iPhone and looked great. There really is no excuse anymore.
>>63057532
Second one wasn't me, I dunno what the fuck that is, but he at least posted pipes with joints.
>>63057531
>desu sendai
guess thats just an opinion of whats beautiful to you. sorry bro just most recent, only got my iPhone a few days ago
>>63057553
What do you mean you have no idea I explained here >>63057492
>>63057572
>Pretending to be me
Literally why?
still glass blower guy(not a glass blower read through the thread though)
heres another video i did for my client
walkthrough commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKcq3e3vHRI
>>63057476
There's no point in shooting in Ipod. If i were you id wait and buy a decent camera equipment.
>>63057553
and even if it doesn't look at that great, as long as you have a paying client who likes the work. who cares what others think. other then from a technical standpoint
>Video class
>Okay class form groups
>We're supposed to write a script for a charity of our choosing, mail it to them, then film it
>In group with my mates
>They're gathering the worst ideas you'll ever hear, literally looking up videos on Youtube to see what they can copy from others instead of trying to be creative
Help me how do I tell them to get their shit together without sounding too pretentious
>>63057587
>>63057572
>lying on the internet
>>63057600
I don't want to wait forever. I honestly think a good story >>> pretty story. It can be the best looking film in the world but if it's boring or has no story no one will give a fuck. If it's a great story with strong characters people will forgive it for being shot on a phone, provided the sound is decent.
I have a couple scripts I think could work, but I don't have the equipment and I don't have money to spend at the moment. With debt, rent, bills and my other shit I won't be able to make big purchases until April at the earliest. Too long. I've put things off all my life. Can't keep doing it.
>>63057636
You don't group with friends
Never work with your friends
>>63057636
be alpha and take lead. tell them you arnt copying and whats the point. why not further yourselves
>>63057647
then you need to build a crew with equipment.
you in ohigho by chance?
>Want to sell my script
>Too poor to get it copyrighted
Would this work?
>Print it
>Mail it to myself
>Keep it locked away, never open it
>If someone tries to kike me I have proof I wrote it in the unopened box I mailed to myself with the script that has the date on it
>>63057636
>Help me how do I tell them to get their shit together without sounding too pretentious
You can't save everyone. University and higher education can teach you the basics but they can't teach creativity or talent.
>>63057647
Just remember that you didn't give a fuck what camera a movie was shot on until you started thinking about making them yourself. Gear is a fucking meme. As long as your sound and image aren't distractingly bad and convey whatever you're trying to get across in your narrative, then quite literally...
N O B O D Y C A R E S
>>63057680
Ohio? Nope. Australia.
>then you need to build a crew with equipment.
Thinking skeleton crew. Two of the short ideas I have require only two actors and one location for each film. Myself on camera and setting up lighting, friend or some willing person with the boom mic and the actors.
>>63057636
there was a class or two i fucked around on due to personal issues ect. as i skimmed by and went on to the next class, i realized how it all flowed together and how much i fucked up by not putting in my full effort.
a team of one is better then a team of jackasses even if you have to be the bread winner
Im gonna make abstract films of my city and its scapes with guitar work and pained screaming over it.
>>63057699
Yeah, that's essentially what I was saying.
>>63057727
hit up Facebook for film maker groups in your area. I'm in murica brother but if we were close id fuck with ya just to get experience. hit up craigslist for actors or similar style classified ad sites in your country
>/fmg/
Finally! So where and how can you learn the techincal and mechanical elements of film making?
Whats a good tip for writers?
>>63057727
What state m8
I'm unemployed right now and waiting 8 months for my final Uni class.
>>63057753
I've returned to university recently and was thinking about taking some film courses as electives. I'd be paying to cover shit I'm already familiar with but thought it might be a good way to meet willing people, get contacts and get some access to equipment.
>>63057727
i wrote a script for a class
>be girl
>be poor
>two bratty unattended to kids
>bills be piling up
>phonecall.gif
>lawyer tells her mother dies
>leaves note and 2 million dollars
>note says i know money can't buy happiness but hope it will help you forget those things that happened to you i ignored
>can finally give kids proper life
>>63057772
Victoria
You guys are film makers, with all your insider knowledge and stuff who is going to win in marvel civil war???? Iron man or captain america?? whose good cuz i dont get it hyped af for it though it looks awesome
I can't play guitar but im going to make a violent, minimalistic soundtrack. Cant even hold the thing properly
Mostly night shots, open roads and woody environments
City lights the start the film, and to end it
A loner who is rejected by society sets off to find his meaning on the road
Film ends on a low point, featuring a robbery, depressed chase, surrender and death by cop
Too many of my film ideas feature slow story progressing, a loner, a car and structural shots
>>63057794
>Single mother receives note that her mother has left her $2 million
I reckon the story needs a bit more.
>>63057779
it would, but in reality you would succeed much better with a uni geared towards film making and not just an elective. thats like my psychology class. it doesn't do shit for my film degree(other than understanding how the psychology of play helps creativity) if i want psychology id go to a school for that
catch my drift?
>>63057815
Neit It will be a stalemate. They have to rejoin forces to battle Thanos in the final Avengers™ films.
>>63057830
i got an a+ on it, haven't looked at in months. theres much more detail in the script, just giving the short version. in the script i leave it up to the viewer on whether she was raped as a kid ect but in the end..... you know she was
>>63057838
It's reputedly got a strong film program. They have RED cameras but I think only 3rd year film students get access to those. I would be only doing 1st year level courses.
>>63057818
write what you know brother
rule number 1
that way your writing is genuine
>>63057796
Same here.
I don't use facebook, but Steam and Skype might work maybe.
I'd be willing to help out if you end up doing anything.
>>63057862
see thats what i love about my uni. its not just rent the camera out from the school. they give you the tools to succeed after school is over. the way you make it sound is once your out of school there goes your connect for a camera
>>63057838
>film degree
>psychology class
>>63057886
start using Facebook then. as much as you hate it, it will benefit you in finding connections. I hate social media if it weren't for my business endeavors i wouldn't even use them. but i have no choice because of the connects i can make that way
>>63057902
>psychology class
yup it is pretty standard to take a psychology class in universities.
>>63057850
Thanks senpai kinda disapoint tho i wanted iron man to kick ass
>>63057918
I used it for the university groups and read the film groups every now and then, but university groups are pretentious twats who won't stop asking for help on projects I'd rather not have my name associated with.
I mainly read forums about screenwriting and post-production now.
>>63057901
I wouldn't have a clue. As I said, I've just returned to uni and this is my first year at this university. Their support for graduates might be extremely strong. I wouldn't know. All I know is attending there and studying a film course will give me access to other aspiring film makers and equipment.
>>63057950
>I mainly read forums about screenwriting and post-production now
links pls
>>63057902
you seem to miss the part in parentheses. Psychology of play, how play effects the creative process(which is being implemented in major business work play constantly now a days). I didn't say i took 9 weeks of psychology.
>>63057950
don't look for university groups, look for city groups of regular people in your areas.
>>63057974
it will be so helpful in the end if they set you up right. check into it regardless it never hurts to gain the experience
https://youtu.be/ICpU8-foA0E
Made this a couple days ago
I wish these threads were more active and more regular
>>63058208
watching now
>>63058228
Didn't know about them. Glassblowing Bro will be back on a regular
>>63058233
>>63058208
anti muslim or pro? only 2 minutes in. initial take is pro muslim
>>63058228
The most active filmmaking and screenwriting threads are always around like 3AM.
>tfw we're all up late dreaming n' memeing
>>63058208
need to level out your background music so it doesn't over power the actual dialog from the clips
>>63058208
>>63058233
>>63058269
>>63058383
6/10
would like to see the background musics toned down a bit.
would like to see maybe you(or brought in actor) to narrate how you want the story to go.
Im still not fully clear on whether it is pro or anti mutism/islam and feel that a strong narrative would give more background to your opinion on the matter.
all and all (regardless of which side you fall on) keep up the good work. only forward from here. How do you think it effects the world that 1 and 4 people refuse to answer whether or not they support isis?
>>63057354
exactly I had that in mind. Its just that people tend to ride on momentum. And usually people who make it later on (no matter what industry) need to pick up on a new momentum.
>>63057301
Just a momentum. Being young, passionate and slightly naive works. But people who flourish later on can ride on a different momentum. A midlife crisis is one of them.
>>63058208
Disagree with these other anons, background music is fine. The powerful score is what makes these dull clips life and tone. If you can get the dialogue to cut through a little better with timing that would be ideal but the powerful score and imagery is much more important than the dialogue in this kind of video.
>>63058269
Anti Islam as a doctrine and those who actually follow it not necessarily anti-people-who-happen-to-born-Muslim (with little real option) if you get what I mean
>>63058383
>>63058491
>>63058648
Yeah the music overpowers at times, unfortunately some of the source dialogue was quiet as fuck so mixing was a little challenging
>>63058491
The idea with this one was to kind of let the images let the audience draw their own conclusions so it didnt overtly feel like hate mongering but i get what you mean
I think its a genuine concern that people are trying to reconcile islam and western society when they're clearly mutually exclusive as societal systems
>>63058700
them dubs
and good job all around. little polishing on the edges but nice. real good documentary feel to it. i think that the narrative woulda set it off though. that way you can push the viewer in the direction you want them to go. I found myself stopping to read the quotes a lot. so maybe a tad bit longer on the quote screens
also if I'm coming off dickish at any point i don't mean to be. just giving constructive criticism. I hear I suck at being gentle
>>63058740
Nah man I agree with you fully, nothing dickish about honest criticism
I'm working on a pilot at the moment and was needing to edit something to test out some flows and techniques with sound transitions and the current events seemed to swing me into putting that together
thanks for the critique man
>>63058722
with the narrative you could push them right up to that edge with still letting them make their own decision while still leading the story. I think islam from what i know about it is trying to cover up the real roots of it in attempts to make a one world islam nation. slaying any disbelievers along the way.
do i believe there are muslims who don't believe in hurting people, sure. but with a religion who is (currently) known for spilling blood to make a point is not the way society should be going. but then again i don't believe we should base our societal instincts on religion regardless
>>63058780
yea i don't like to bite my tongue, it hurts. a lot of my peers have a problem with this. they take it as me being egotistical when in reality, id rather be brutally honest in my opinions to help further the creativity. some people just can't handle that so I've been working on trying to not come off as harsh but still not biting my tongue. we all have our down falls
>>63058780
see >>63054953
local paying gig I've picked up
>>63058791
Yeah the religion itself and the majority who practice it are welcome to do whatever they want in their countries where its clearly a failed social structure but when people try to justify that islam is malleable to western culture its honestly asinine. Every aspect of Islamic culture is more or less opposed to the liberties expressed in most democracies so its quite strange to see the media portrayal of it as the religion of peace and science when that couldnt be further from the truth
>>63058844
nice work dude, i do videography shit for nightclubs so i occasionally get some cool footage of some decent tier artists which is pretty fun
>>63058845
its 2015 were words are the most offensive things in nature. everyones a crybaby now. i totally understand that christianity/Catholicism was a very dark violent religion but thats not how its practiced in todays society. and it goes on and on just add whatever religion you want. with islam it seems like its all about violence and hiding that fact that you support that, which in return ruins societies in my opinion
>>63058866
Im trying to integrate my cinematography within my music endeavors to force people to give me what i want on the music end. Digital Cinematography is my back up plan for when/if i quit trying to be a rockstar which could be rather soon or not, who knows
>>63058917
worst case scenario, i get a job working for media machine. which Ive always been fine with blood money
>>63058888
thats the thing, at least catholicism acknowledges the interpretive nature of the bible, the amendments made in the new testament and the regulatory stipulations made by papal infallibility that brought catholicism to a more contextual relevance (e.g. Vatican II etc.)
In Islam the Qu'ran is the immutable word of Allah through his prophet Muhammed which means that any and all barbarism from those days is regulated as law to these days unfortunately
glassblower bro out. ill be on the look out for these threads in the future.
to my fellow filmmakers may your lens capture all you want it to see
>>63054715
What are some good cameras? I'm very interested in recording my own stuff.I'm very serious about it. I'm not talking about some cheap HD cameras to record shit for YouTube for vlogs or something. I want serious answers.
>>63060060
i'm going for an a7s but mostly because they're cheap atm and something i'm working on will be primarily low light
>>63060060
Upstream Color was shot on a GH2 and won awards. Don't get memed into spending thousands of dollars.
>>63056042
All my friends love talking about film, we do it regularly, but none of us ever actually do anything.
Save for like one or two people, and one of them's become a real film-school pretentious asshole.
OP here.
So refreshing to see an /fmg/ not overrun by retards telling us "what's the point? You'll never make it anyway".
Good job.
>>63056042
Maybe your just not taking initiative
>https://youtu.be/PQPo4s2OOzg
Here's the latest short I made
>>63057122
Never too late, I'm 37, went back to school 2 years ago to study film production. Got real lucky and got a job in post, granted I'm not editing at this job, more support but at least the subject matter is never dull. I do a few jobs on the side to fuel creativity.
Digital has really democratized film making, so if you really want to make your own short films there's no stopping you if you want it bad enough.
If you don't have gear, make friends with those that do, or purchase your own.
And there's no one path to get into the film industry, you just have to want it bad enough to do what it takes to get into it.
>>63061682
That because its euro time and mister bitter didnt show up.
>>63062632
Can you explain me the ending?
>>63063671
The one sleepwalking wasn't really him
