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What was his problem?
He hated his wife and child and was living under a facade of happiness
>>63047258
He was an ancient, mystical spirit brought about by the slaughter of the Native Americans
>>63047258
He couldn't believe the moon landings were fake
>>63047258
Being sober for too long will make you want to kill the fuckers who annoy you. Thats why I drink.
>>63047258
hiv+
>>63047258
No TV and no beer make Homer something something...
>>63047258
So was he a ghost or possessed or what?
If he was a ghost, how did he have a family?
>>63047258
it's a metaphor for Stephan King's heroin problem
>>63047258
Slow Wi-Fi
>>63047258
He knew the public wouldn't understand and appreciate his masterpiece avant garde literature.
>>63047258
Well, this thread went downhill fast, didn't it?
And WHEN do you think MAYBE he should see a doctor?
>>63048408
>Muh hedge animals
>Muh blonde wendy
>Muh surviving blackman
Definitely one of those rare instances where the adapted art form truly and objectively does outweigh the original media in all qualitative matters regarding character and development alteration on the director's part. Kubrick won, King. He made your shit novel into an epic out of his first and only foray into the unknown forces of the supernatural.
he wanted his wife to get BLACKED but there were no bulls around
>>63048954
What about the nigger cook?
>>63048921
Wow! Man, how long have you been holding that grudge? Why don't you go out and buy the latest King novel to read and deconstruct to show how reewy, reewy smart you are? (sucker!)
>>63047258
violent
alcoholic
pedophile
bald
bad writer, and he knows it
ugly ass wife
>>63047500
Right from the beginning it was apparent he absolutely despised his family. Made it less of a shock when he went crazy pin them.
>>63048989
A nigger?
>>63048989
Nigger...cook?
The whole movie was about Kubrick faking the moon landing. according to some hipster psychos
>>63048989
>A nigger kek?
What did he mean by this?
>>63047258
In the movie it's just alcoholism, because Kubrick is a hack who can't into subtlety.
>>63049049
Doctor Sleep adaptation when?
>>63047848
he and the ghost and the house are one in the same like an unholy trinity
>>63049523
The irony being that that's all YOU saw yet you're accusing others of being shallow
>It's a "King spends the whole movie talking about and complaining about his own alcoholism" movie
>>63049692
The hotel had an evil power that energized the dark, flawed, side of the main character. Kubrick was more subtle about it than King.
>>63050730
>He thinks there were actual ghosts
no tv and no beer make homer go crazy
I am a weird edgy drunk and I still don't get it. Doesn't make it bad. That there has been a King/Kubrick crossover is good enough for me.
What are King's ultimate greatest books? The ones you can't not read?
>>63052327
The Long Walk.
>>63052351
Reddit: The steven king novel
>>63052394
What the hell does Reddit have to do with it? Or are you just using Reddit as a generic insult for "I don't like it"?
Either way I look forward to your actual rebuttal and explanation of why it's bad.
>>63052327
The Stand
It
DIfferent Seasons
The Shining
UNPOPULAR OPINION COMING THROUGH: Duma Key
>>63052327
None
>>63052419
It's bad cause you suck dick.
>>63052472
Loved The Stand but I doubt I could read it again. So fucking long and so much of it is just plodding.
>>63047258
Tormented by demons and spirits. Alcoholism. Hated his wife, being married and having a kid.
His wife was a typical "dream killer" American woman.
>>63052472
is the shining "to the point"? I hate when things stretch out for no reason.
>>63053612
It's about a third the length of The Stand, probably 600 some pages. It's fairly to the point and doesn't stretch to bad.
>>63053629
cool might give it a go thanks
>>63053606
Wendy did nothing wrong.
>>63049523
You get that from what King said? He was just butthurt there weren't more ghosts. King believes they are real.
He was an inadequete dude who abused his wife and kid, because he wanted to fulfil his role as a dominant male. In the end he is left frozen in time, literally and figuratively.
Stanley Kuckbert.
>>63053678
King should direct his own movies then.
>>63053984
He did, Nostalgia Critic did an episode on the one King directed film.
>>63054010
>Le youtube funny man
I saw him at a convention recently, he was an insufferable cunt.
>>63053984
I take it you haven't seen Maximum Overdrive.
>>63054193
One of the greatest movies ever
>>63054193
Apparently he was on so much cocaine during the making of maximum overdrive he barely remembers making it. That movie is horrendous. I wonder what he could have done in a clearer state of mind
>mfw reading the plot of the shining sequel book
>>63054332
It's worse than you think. Danny is insufferable, the Mary Sue girl is the most Mary Sue character ever, alcoholism is brought up every other paragraph, and the bad guys are psychic vampires who travel the country in RVs.
I hated all of it.
>>63047258
He was a dull boy after having to work too much and not getting to play.
>>63054498
That gif is retarded
>>63047258
the drudgery of family life destroyed his artistic drive and he couldn't handle it without descending into alcoholism, pedophilia, and murder.
>>63047258
he fucked his son and found out the moon landings were fake.
>>63054332
What is with writers in this decade. Anne Rice is fucked up her awesome Sleeping Beauty trilogy with a sequel that has almost no sex and social justice undertones, and is in danger of wrecking The Vampire Chronicles too.
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED!!!?
>>63054418
>psychic vampires
The guys from Salem's Lot and The Dark Tower novels?
Say what you will but at least King is committed to his lore now. I got a little tingly reading 11/22/63when the protag goes to Derry and meets Beverly and Richie
>>63055078
>The guys from Salem's Lot and The Dark Tower novels?
No. They're just fucking gypsies and "the shining" is a tangible thing that they can absorb to live longer.
And the Derry shit in 11/22/63 was totally unnecessary. Good book, except for the end. Which is just standard King.
>>63055098
>And the Derry shit in 11/22/63 was totally unnecessary.
Absolutely agree. Pure fanservice and I loved it anyway.
Ending was shit, would have liked some exploration of the "ripped" world.
>>63055118
And I know he mostly does horror but would it have killed him to give us a slightly happier ending? Though the ending we got was actually written by his son, I guess the original was even worse.
>>63047258
He suddenly realized that he was actually Jack Nicholson, the hedonistic demigod and savior of men, and went crazy knowing that his infinite charm and irresistible charisma were being wasted on a 2/10 wife and a severely autistic son
>>63055219
He's a shaved monkey.
>>63052472
Different Seasons is my favorite, also 22.11.63
>>63055450
Fuck off britbong with your different numbers.
Also I really didn't think of James Franco as the lead when reading the book. Definitely expected someone more plain and average.
>>63050809
Then who opened the locked door bitchboy?
>>63055472
Agree on that Franco thing. Another one I liked was the one about writing. And Salems Lot, the only horror book that actually frightened me a little
He wasted his life on his bitchy wife and is probably being keked by the nigger.
>>63055503
Well just like Shining they needed a current popular big name actor to sell the show, so Franco was it.
>>63048921
The themes are completely different in King's novel. The film is about a man who as others have said already hates his family simply snapping with irrelevant psychic shit going on the background for spook factor.
The novel is about an otherwise loving but flawed father being taken over by the will of the hotel and having his personality slowly degrade into an entirely different person by the end. The book does well for following along his tortured inner thoughts as he loses more and more of himself while the hotel comes to life thanks to Danny's gift. You really feel sorry for the guy and his family.
Nicholson seems like a scumbag from act 1.
All work and no blay make jack a bull boy.
>>63055898
Kubrick has no nuance. Jack is the bad guy, that's it.
>>63047846
> g-go crazy?
> don't mind if I do!
>>63055483
Danny did.
>>63056632
what, when, how?
>>63056669
Danny blacks out frequently. "Tony" takes control during that time.
Tony is Anthony, his middle name and the name of Jack's father. The cycle keeps going.
>>63056741
We on the first page nigga.
>>63056732
But why wouldnt Jack kill Danny right after he let him out?
>>63048921
I bet you're judging the book off that nostalgia critic review of the cheap adaptation that starred Based Weber. Can't get more pleb than you.
>>63056756
Jack loved Danny. I know it's bringing in book shit but near the end he smashes his own face in with the mallet so that Danny won't think of him anymore and will flee.
The movie really dropped the ball on the deeper themes of the book.
>>63056788
I read the book actually. Liked how Kubrick added some stuff that only book readers would understand, like when Jack was studying that newspaper cutout album. On the other hand, saw the movie first and liked the movie a little more. Maybe I will just reread and judge again
>>63056732
>Danny BLACKS out frequently
Who wouldn't if the only black bull left?
>>63056829
The movie has great imagery but it really lacks the depth of the book. Jack's constant torment of wanting to do a good job and write the book versus his love for Danny is super gripping. Jack is a flawed person with real problems that are simply exacerbated by the hotel, while the movie makes him very one dimensional.
He said it himself. All work and no pay
>>63053716
Compelling interpretation, anon
>>63047957
No that was tommy knockers
>>63056870
I agree on that. also bump
>>63057411
>>63057411
So the best we can say is "The movie is good on it's own but not a good adaptation." Which is not satisfying in any regard.
>>63057430
The thing that bothered me most about the movie was the fact that Nicholson looked insane straight from the beginning. The thing that bothered me about the book the most was probably the translation, plus the animals. Eventually I will re-read the book in english, so I have a better idea.
>>63057469
On the first part I agree. King went to great lengths to establish Jack as a normal well meaning guy who suffered from several problems, the movie discarded this.
I can't comment on translations, I only speak my native English.
>>63057524
Yeah, the translation problem is not a thing to be discussed here really.
>>63057685
Another time and place
>>63057694
Sure
>>63055219
Jack Nicholson isn't exactly a good-looking himself. The man actually looks insane.
>Listening to the audio book of the shining sequel
>Commentary at the end which involves a good 8 minutes of King getting butthurt about the movie and saying it wasn't true to his vision and how Wendy's portrayel was sexist etc
how butthurt do you have to be to still get made after 20 years
>>63058017
Fucking autocorrect
*mad
>>63058017
Wow.
Shawshank redemption is the best Stephen King movie desu
>>63047258
He was abandoned totally. Like the Donner Party before him. Winter was coming the Meager coverings he used to evade detection AKA his wife and son were no longer paramount the coming enveloping snow. He had everything he needed now and the meager trapping fell away, leaving his true self un evaded. There had been moments before but was quickly quelled with drink.
>>63058185
sure, agreed. loved the whole feeling of the movie. Movie- some things better explained, Brooks and other supporting characters, Book- deeper, longer
>>63052327
Dead Zone.
>>63055898
child abuse and it's persistence among generations is a big part of the novel
shit like the wasps nest shows that there is plenty of nastiness lurking within Jack.
But you're right, the hotel does subsume him, showcased by a swell finale where Jack smashes his own face in with a roque mallet to show his identity is completely gone. I like it better than the film ending, which was at least thematically similar; jack's icy petrification showed he was part of the hotel along with all the other ghosts and decorations
>>63047500
Reminds me of Noè's Love
>>63052419
hello reddit
