Did anyone else literally applaud at the end of this episode?
Bravo, Damon. Bravo.
what's this, then?
It's painfully good right now. It's quickly climbing to perhaps my favourite of all time. I can only hope they don't cancel it.
This episode was a masterpiece.
>>63006241
The Leftovers, it's like a combination of the quality of HBO dramas (Sopranos, The Wire, Rome) and religious/philosophical themes brought by Lindelof (Writer on LOST) along with some great directors/cinematographers making what is at the moment one of the best things on TV imo
>>63007936
Read the plot, sounds like Les Revenants
How does it compares ?
It sucks that more people aren't watching this, it's one of the best things on TV right now.
>>63008739
Completely different
>>63005362
Amazing episode for an amazing season. I don't have a fucking idea on where the show is going, hope we'll not have a Lost treatment
>>63006005
This calls meme
>>63008816
>hope we'll not have a Lost treatment
Things won't be 'answered' if that's what you mean, they've already said.
Personally, I'm fine with that.
>>63005362
How they fuck did they manage to go from a pretty good show (season 1) to goddamn amazing (now)
>>63009099
first season was bound to the book's material. Season 2 is all OC.
>>63006241
treason
>>63006241
Fargo
>>63008793
>it's one of the best things on TV right now
It's the best drama in my opinion. This episode was close to perfection, if they cancel it I'll guarantee that it'll develop a cult following.
>lindelof
tell me why i shouldnt laugh my ass off at the thought of watching this
>Neal is such a dedicated alcoholic he's never drunk water in the afterworld even once
L M A O
Anyone else thought this whole episode was like a videogame?
>woke up naked not knowing where he is
>gets to choose his character as in rpg (closet)
>his game character is introduced by first "enemy" (he literally named him Kevin Harvey)
>meets the guide, who explains the quest
is Leftovers like the Matrix? Was the Departure just a glitch?
>>63010833
Because it's the kind of show he always wanted to make; amazing character studies surrounded by a mystery that doesn't need to be answered
This last episode was fantastic, but No Room at the Inn is still my favourite so far.
I love the opening titles. The missing people doing outdoors shit shows how I'm wasting my life being autistic on 4chan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLSH-81yT7s
>>63011243
Episode 6 where Nora interviews the black woman was my favorite. 5, 3 and 8 are all fantastic too
>>63011150
>amazing character studies surrounded by a mystery that doesn't need to be answered
More like contrived bullshit surrounded by a premise he doesn't ever have to touch.
I mean this is the guy who tried to insist LOST was about the characters.
>>63011583
You still mad about the ending of LOST anon?
It's okay to admit you didn't get it.
>>63011787
The only reason anyone watched that was the mysteries. Trying to claim its about the characters when you can't write your way out of the paper bag you built was a shit move. Then being able to build a career out of that move should have everyone mad.
also hi lindelof.
>>63011303
I like it too. I didn't care for the song for the first two episodes but now it's grown on me.
>>63011943
Understanding the characters pasts, interconnections, motivations and how it all related to the island was a part of the mystery of the series. The two are directly related and you should feel bad for thinking they aren't.
what's this show about?
summarize it in 20 words or less
I'm looking for a new TV drama
i literally didn't understand shit of what happened in the episode
yeah he had to go there to kill patti but that's it
What did the first episode about the cavewoman have to do with anything?
>>63011243
>it's a matt stops his car for someone and gets fucked over episode
>>63012246
Millions of people vanish one day and the show focuses on the people left, specifically one family.
Did anyone else make a connection between spraying Windex into Kevin's eyes to make him "see clearly" in a way? They would spray it in his eyes when he was lying, thus allowing him to see clearly that he was smoking to never forget that the Departure happened.
we LOST now
http://youtu.be/P5wuy0pZ7bg
>>63005362
didn't watch it . fuck leftovers .
>>63012245
No one wanted to understand the pasts, interconnections, or motivations of a large group of cardboard cutouts.
And the interconnections were nothing but a desperate pull to make it more about muh caraturs
>>63012246
shit happens, but who cares, character drama!
i feel like a dumbass watching this, lost i could understand and shit but the last episode was just nuts
i remember some people in the general talking about marry being in the hotel i didn't even see that
>>63012438
Only millions? Well I think I'll give it a shot.
>>63012943
its random bullshit, there's nothing to understand.
There is no show I am more excited for each week.
>>63012948
2% of the world population
>>63012245
>interconnections
wtf am i reading
>I don't listen, I talk too much, I'm fat, I'm worthless, I'm ugly
I cried
>>63012993
Seems like hardly a dent really. The black death was worse.
>>63012994
remember in the last season they kept having cameos of the other characters in the jackbacks? THEY'S ALL CUNNECTED
>>63013011
you're comparing a disease were you see the people deteriorating and dying to an event that no one can fathom or explain
you get up to grab another cup of coffee and when you turn back your entire family is gone
>>63012943
The show constantly leaves you with the choice to believe the mysteries have a natural explanation or a supernatural one. The 'afterlife' depicted in this episode could all be Kevin's subconscious, or it could be an actual purgatory.
>>63013011
It's like all the redheads in the world disappearing.
>>63013089
it's pretty obvious that it's supernatural isn't it?
>>63013054
You're comparing 1 in 50 people cleanly vanishing without a trace, leaving minimal devestation in their wake, to a disease that killed most of the human population.
>>63013210
The way the show portrays it you'd think it was 1 in 5.
>>63013089
no i mean
why was patti a little girl?
what the fuck was up with the bird?
this kind of shit i'll never get, are we supposed to just create theories or i'm missing something and it was explained in the episode
I feel weird looking at this cover
>>63013186
I don't know. The strongest case for it being supernatural is the fact that Virgil told Kavin that he died. There is probably no way for Kevin to know that and thus use the information in constructing a mind world.
The knowledge of the well in Jarden can be explained by Kevin sleepwalking when the girls vanished and seeing them fall down the well, or climbing down it. If it's not supernatural I can see another episode being Kevin helping John find the girls and the well after John confront him about his handprint on the car (which was also in the hotel).
Lastly Mary being in the hotel could speak for it being supernatural (as she also is fighting to complete a 'mission' to bring her back to life, or failing and finally dying), but Kevin also knows very well about Mary's situation in real life, so his subconscious could have added her to the hotel.
>>63012943
>remember some people in the general talking about marry being in the hotel i didn't even see that
Remember when Kevin followed the balloon guy? He delivered those to her but it didn't show her face. Then Kevin got jumped
Very cool that Kevin dressed as an assassin and this episode aired November 22nd, the anniversary of JFK.
>>63005362
fuck off damon you hack shill
you may have got me to watch the 8.5 month abortion that was Lost but theres no way in hell i will ever watch your shit again
>>63013054
The black death, at a conservative estimate, killed 1 in 4 Europeans. The horror of the disease itself wasn't really what it did to people, it was how fast it killed them. People died in a few days after being infected, a village could be alive and bustling one week and the next 90% of them are dead or as good as.
2% of the world population is nothing, you wouldn't even notice it unless they were all pulled from a single region.
>>63013210
There's a difference between people dying for a disease that could be cured than a large chunk of people vanishing. That would have great psychological effects on every person on the planet and that's some of what the show explores.
>>63013090
Just kill me now
>>63013409
ok aspie, truly something as bizarre and magical as people vanishing in thin air is less impactful than something earthy, explainable and studied like a disease
This new episode is probably the second or third time they have mentioned Perth, Australia and it having something to do with the supernatural.
When Kevin talked to his dad on the tv, who said he was alive and Kevin was dead, he said he was in Perth.
So the after life or connection to it is in Perth? But how did Kevin Sr know?
>>63013307
>the departure
>lake being divided in two saving kevin coincidentally
if they somehow pull of a convincing scientific explanation for this i'll be their number 1 fan
also the old man >>63013618
>>63013618
To add to this
when Kevin kills Patti there is an earthquake and we hear the screech of a bird (eagle?), just like with prehistoric woman in the season opener. The bird was her clan’s totem, its sacred symbol, with which the clan had a bond. And, birds may represent rebirth, since some birds in Jarden do resurrect. Unless, of course, they’re squashed like a fly by a water-drinking, possible pedophile, who didn’t turn out to very good guide to the after-life. Nevertheless, resurrect is what Kevin does. But, I’m not sure if Kevin is Jesus, Lazarus, or one of Stephen King’s zombies from Pet Sematary.
>>63009099
I can't be the only one who wanted to fuck her right?
>>63013674
The departure I think will never be explained, and I also think it's more likely that the Hotel was an actual place and not just Kevin's subconscious, but I think they will leave it open for you to decide for yourself.
Connections to the show from May 1972 National Geographic:
>"Cairo, Troubled Capital Of The Arab World" - episode 1x8 is called Cairo, Kevin plays in the woods in Cairo, NY, news reports coming from unrest in Cairo in season 1, Patty talks about stealing a chalice from Cairo in 2x7, pic related
>"Living In A Japanese Village" - when Virgil blows his brains out, there is Japanese writing on the wall behind him spelling out Futagami-Jima, the village written about in the issue
>"The Spider That Lives Underwater" - Christine babbles on about a spider that lives underwater when shes delusional with labor/pregnancy pains
>"Have Excavations On The Island Of Thera Solved The Riddle Of The Minoans?" - article investigated the disappearance of a civilization, mirrored in Sudden Departure or season 2 intro with cave-in?
>"Yellowstone's Hundredth Birthday"- nothing yet
>>63013674
it'll be contrived, imagine the departure as the other way around and the people that disappeared are the ones that survived and the people that 'remained' are the ones that died which makes the GR right except they're not a remnant so much as majority
>>63013420
>That would have great psychological effects
At least that's what the show insists.
>>63013987
Nora is messed up from it still. Look at the way she reacted when she thought Kevin disappeared.
>>63013226
The way the show portrays it, you'd think it was a constant, regular, random thing. Read: people jsut vanishing randomly without rhyme or reason for four years.
But that wouldn't work for "THE LINDELOF DRAMA HOUR," as lindelof would eventually have to explain it.
>>63013263
patti is a little girl because they want to contrast the "old ugly cunty" patti with "sweet little girl."
>>63014025
Real nice of her to disappear on him with the baby (that he doesn't give a shit about).
you're fucking faces when the guilty remnant kidnaped the girls
BASED DAMON "SAVIOUR OF TELEVISION" LINDELOF
>>63014364
>your fucking face when the earthquake opened the ground and sucked those girls inside, but it didn't suck Kevin in, because he was tied to a concrete block
those girls and water didn't departure, calling it now
this is the car the girls leave with
12W-MP1
>>63014532
sorry, 12N-MP1
and this is the car kevin was driving
what's going on lads
>>63014468
>Using AV Club as a metric of quality
DROPPED
>>63014532
this is the car the girls left in
>>63012897
Teens care about plot. Adults care about character.
>>63012246
Supernatural event happens. Everyone develops a serious existential crisis over it. Everyone acts crazy because they're depressed and afraid.
>>63014468
>critically acclaimed
>no one is watching
>>63014532
>>63014565
this >>63014479
is happening
>>63014598
Spoken like a teen.
>>63014625
>lindelof
There's your answer.
How can one woman be so fucking based, /tv/ ?
>>63011124
Dude, have you seen Oshii's Avalon? If not, go watch it.
guys guys
guys
GUYS
http://imgur.com/CME2nnl
>>63014989
>Oshii's Avalon
looks terrible
>>63014995
Please explain the significance to someone that doesn't quite understand how Jeopardy works (i.e not an Amerifag)
>>63013420
has anyone else picked up that everyone that departed were, at the time of the departure, being heavy burdens on the leftovers?
no left that was wanted at the time.
>>63015082
I have a theory, that for a limitited time only, everyone in the world could wish for someone else to be gone and that wish would be granted.
>>63015073
watch the part where patti talks about jeopardy
>>63014995
>http://imgur.com/CME2nnl
What the fuck.
>>63015082
Yeah. I think that idea was mentioned in episode 6 this season to Nora about being a "lens", a person who might have caused people around them to disappear.
>>63014995
>tfw that scene was most likely filmed back in June or July
>>63014565
>what's going on lads
The three missing girls fell down the well Kavin pushed Patti in. Now that he's alive again he's going to help John find them to clear his name
>>63014995
Coincidence. Funny enough I knew the real Jeopardy answer during the game but would have said Ukraine to the one from the show.
>>63012246
dude cigarettes lmao
>they actually have kevin do spiritual battle while "dead"
>lindelof
>balls
pick one.
>>63015082
considering there was an entire episode devoted entirely to that... no, no one picked up on that. at all.
they'd rather talk about birds.
>>63011514
"the black woman"
>mother of supposed 2nd departure
>wife of unbeliever who attacks money-grubbing frauds
>daughter(in law?) of man responsible for molesting hubby and "killing" main character
>has emmy-worthy processing scene
>doesnt know her name
>>63013618
Theres a lotta Australia shit in this show.
First episode had tower guy mailing a letter to David Burton in Sydney.
Episode with Laurie and Tommy, there was a blip on the tv about David Burton, proposed dead, emerging from a cave in Australia (before Tommy shut off the TV).
Episode with Matt trying to get back in to Jarden, theres a person in the waiting room reading a magazine with the cover saying "Biblical Rains in Australia"
The bush baby Kevin looks at in Virgil's home is identical in size, stance, and posture as the national geographic magazine prominent in the last season.
Publisher Laurie meets with talks about some "wingnut" in Australia who claims to have gone to the other side and now cant die (ruh roh, sounds familiar)
>>63019070
>all that info I already know
>doesn't tell me her name
I'll keep callin her black woman until then
>>63015082
If that were true a lot more than 2% would depart
>>63019217
I like how it's all happening in the background too.
Definitely builds up the world moreso than you see in most tv shows. The whole explanation could be some isolated incidents causing people to prop up Austrailia into some special place like Jarden too.
>>63019232
theyve said her name in the show multiple times
>>63011943
It's 2015 and people STILL don't understandL O S T. I'm shaking my head to be honest family.
>>63019217
There was also an Australian man at the entrance to Miracle that stopped Kevin and whispered something to him before he got to the well.
>movies getting worse
>tv getting better
Has TV surpassed movies yet?
>>63009099
Pleb. How the fuck could anyone think s2 is better than s1?
>>63011124
I have literally thought it was a glitch the whole fucking series. I also kinda think Kevin is schizophrenic.
>>63011943
You're blaming Lindleoff for ABC executives' decisions. It's pathetic and short-sighted.
>>63012290
She did die where the well was... It'll come around in the finale, mate. Then you can watch s2 over again and laugh at how all the answers are totally upfront in the details.
>>63019888
dude lol 0/10
Someone got a successful disciple.
That is fucking good news.
>>63019410
Nigressa?
>>63012966
100% wrong.
The show is a mystery show. It presents mysteries...
Numbers on the sidewalk.
Glass cases over cracks in the ground.
Birds buried in the woods.
Someone is shooting dogs.
2% of the population vanished.
You literally receive or will receive an answer for EVERY SINGLE MYSTERY the series presents, save for WHERE the departed went.
Because it doesn't matter where they went. If they never come back, who cares where they are? If they do come back, they'll tell us where they went.
The show is a presentation of mysterious circumstances that allow the audience to choose between science and faith.
>>63013011
That is literally a statement made in the pilot
>>63013263
Patti's inner child that learned to accept abuse had to be dealt with first so that adult patti could let go. If you're "never gonna get it" because you have no concept of how humans work, I'm just going to assume you're Sheldon Cooper. Bazinga!
The bird is one of many the die in Erika's box. Showing Mary and the bird establish the reality of where Kevin went. And what no one has mentioned yet is that The Departed aren't there.
>>63020242
>Showing Mary and the bird establish the reality of where Kevin went. And what no one has mentioned yet is that The Departed aren't there.
Good point. That raises the question, did we see anyone in the hotel that died before the departure?
>>63013865
>Nothing yet
Except that Jarden is a national park and the cover of the magazine clearly mentions danger from disobeying park rules.
>>63014479
From the moment I saw Kevin wake up beside a giant crack in the Earth, I knew those girls got sucked in.
He jumped. They jumped in after him. His suicide attempt saved his life and took theirs.
>>63012290
It showed she was experiencing the same thing the leftovers were:
Abrupt loss of family/friends
Struggling with continuing on without them
Clinging to some belief (eagle)
And then it also happened to be Jarden.
>>63015221
The Lens theory is close to the truth. There's nothing special about Nora. She isn't a lens. But she was thinking "i wish they all were gone" and they disappeared.
In the first scene of the pilot, you can really see it on the mom's face... She quiets the baby, turns back toward the steering wheel, the baby starts crying again and she thinks "i just want him gone" and he's gone.
The reason only 2% are gone, why it's not every bad person or everyone who was ever being resented, is that you had to be the target or a resentful feeling or thought at that exact SECOND to depart.
Literally every character that departed was being resented (or no circumstances are given to prove or disprove the theory, like Holy Wayne's son)
Boy in fridge, resented by bullies
Sexy latina, resented by Kevin
Down syndrome charlie resented by mom he was forcing to count pennies one at a time
Fetus resented by a laurie that wanted a divorce
Grocery cart dad resented by son who probably wanted a toy or some shit
Every single person riding that carousel in germany? Resented by the next person in line
Once you know it's resent, it cannot be unseen.
>>63014479
except that they went inside the ground to look for them and didnt find them...
I think its more plausible that the girls ran away
>>63020676
i thought this was common knowledge. i mean, it was obvious as soon as the first episode started because she's tired of the baby crying, and then again when kevin wants to hide his affair.
>>63020690
That's the thing about common knowledge. It's not very common.
And while we're obviously smart enough to see it, within the hour, three different people will tell us we're wrong because they misunderstood crucial momens from the show.
I had to leave the FB group because this show makes me feel smart but "the fans" are mostly so lost (pun?) I don't understand why they even like the show.
I mean, S1 was brutal and painful. I get that will turn off the nearly 50 percent of humans who instinctively avoid pain... (Sorry I'm a therapist)... But for the people who like or find value in the vulnerable feeling of identifying with a Leftovers character, the show is a gold mine like nothing that has ever aired before.
>tfw my dad is a paranoid schizophrenic named fucking Kevin
>tfw he's way to into this fucking show
>mfw he's becoming more and more paranoid lately and thinks that scientologists are out to get him and people are trying to poison him and my mother
>>63020982
My best friend's Dad was schizophrenic. You could really SEE IT when he wasn't himself. It was strange. Like, if you didn't know him, I guess you'd take him at face value and maybe get a weird vibe, but if you knew the real him, it was like... His posture, his eyes, his expressions... Really a totally different person using his body, almost. I hope you get what I mean.
Should I watch this bros?L O S Tis my favorite show of all time and I just never got around to watching this.
>>63021110
If you liked the ending of Lost, yes. If not, no.
>>63021202
Excellent, LOST had one of the most satisfying endings to any tv show for me. I've spent a long time on this board defending it.
Another show filled with SJW Leftist tripe gets raved about by SJW Leftists, watched by nobody
>>63021286
Wrong thread?
>>63021100
It's more concerning when my dad isn't talking and just stewing in his own bullshit.
>>63021286
okay then
>>63021286
>YFW SJW is a term you subscribe to for enemy that doesn't exist
>>63012290
This last episode Patty tells Kevin that "our cave had collapsed" ~ the Departure.
The well links the living and the dead.
One one side, its water ensures life, the other, death. Listen for the eagle.
Kevin is buried and resurrected as the birds were.
HATE the S2 title song. That voice!
Definitely applauded at the end of this last episode. I've tried to spread the deliciousness of this show.
>>63023090
>HATE the S2 title song. That voice!
I was indifferent about it at first, but now I cry every tim. except for when the title sequence plays at the very beginning of the episode like last time. they shouldn't do that.
>>63005362
I remember when everybody was sleeping on this last year
Who here /originalleftovers/?
This is the best thing to hit TV since Friday Night Lights
>there are actually people here who believe kevin went to purgatory and battled a spirit
AHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, trust the mind of a fucking schizophrenic tripping out on some brown liquid a nigger pedophile gave him.
>>63025985
Here's your reply
>>63020134
>Numbers on the sidewalk.
>Glass cases over cracks in the ground.
i think this is just because miracle is a tourist place. people go to watch the shit there and everything becomes a spectacle. you remember first episode where michael goes to sell some water to tourists and they ask him if it's magical or whatever and he tells them it's just a souvenir and they give him this "like i would want to buy that shit" look.