What will be the next big movie after TFA to fail to beat Avatar at the box office?
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Avatar 2
It has a real chance to beat Avatar domestically, it has a projected 225 millon OW which is completely ridiculous for December, if it's good it can do it
>>62920061
>domestic
>relevant
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>>62920118
Avatar didn't do that well in China.
I'm already planning on seeing this movie twice. Once with my buds and second time with my pa since he hates crowded theaters.
So, how many times will you see it?
>>62920176
It made $2.1b, 75% of its gross, overseas.
>>62920240
No shit.
Every single one of these threads about box office gross acts as if the entire international profit is entirely dependant on China to actually make money.
>delusional star wars fanboys legitimately believe a $2b overseas gross is surmountable by a star wars movie of all things
Kek. How retarded can you be? Star wars is weak worldwide. The prequels barely made 50% of their gross overseas. This movie will be lucky to hit $2b at all.
>>62920379
>This movie will be lucky to hit $2b at all.
And that's worldwide I mean.
>>62920379
How is not?
The highest box office earners this year were Avengers, Jurassic World and Furious 7.
Star Wars is far more popular than all three of those franchises.
The film is opening to 4000 theatres and will be the only thing playing in IMAX theatres in North America for a month.
Disney are really fucking vying for this movie to be the most successful movie this year.
>>62920586
Who cares about NA, it's completely irrelevant. It can't possibly come close to a $2b overseas gross and that's all that matters.
>>62920636
>NA is irrelevant.
You really have fuck all idea about what you're talking about.
>>62920697
It is irrelevant. If it has any chance at all of beating Avatar then it has to have an extremely strong overseas showing. Domestically it will top off at $900m max if everything goes right. That still leaves another $2b to make overseas in the best case scenario in NA.
Give that star wars movies make fuck all overseas, this is impossible and you are delusional if you believe otherwise.
Will it look sad if I watch this 3 times in 2 days after it opens? I am going with my brother for the midnight release. But if it is actually good, I will watch it twice the day after by myself.
>>62920379
YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY MARKETING!
>>62921481
You're pathetic.
>>62921481
There's literally nothing wrong with doing things you enjoy.
>>62921622
Good to know
>>62919967
>>62920012
kek, nope
>>62919940
Anyone who thinks SW7 will beat Avatar is a delusional reddit kek.
These bastards are talking about 3billion but no one but Jim has gotten 2 billion.
These shits are still trying to beat the 1998 record of 1.8billion. Why are they even talking about adding another billion that.
So many "big" films have fallen so short, why the fuck will star wars do it now?
>>62920586
>Star Wars is far more popular than all three of those franchises
Was. Before the dark times. Before the Prequels.
>>62920586
Revenge of the Sith made 800 million $. And 50% of that was domestic.
It's not even close as big as you think.
>>62921481
Depends how much time you're allotted outside of your kuck shed
>>62922236
It won't even beat Avengers or Jurassic World.
>highest grossing film
>nobody fucking cares about it, nobody wants to discuss it except to remember how boring and shitty it is, nobody wants to see more of it
Fucking garbage.
How can such a shitty movie make so much money? How does Jim do it?
>>62922262
Who are we kidding? We all know its just made it more popular, but now witha generation of edgy fucks who like the third one because it's "dark".
The prequels and spin offs have kept the franchise fresh, its more popular than ever tbqh.
>>62922426
3D marketing.
>>62922426
By being a competently made movie that panders to everyone.
>>62922476
yeah it was all 3D, they need to discount it so the true king of the box office is bumped from #2 to #1
>>62922447
>its more popular than ever
You are either blind or completely fucking retarded.
SW when adjusted by inflation is the #2 highest grossing movie of all time. Above Titanic and Avatar.
Prequels were fucking garbage that almost killed SW.
>>62922512
Steven Spielberg effect.
>>62922303
>highest grossing film of 2005
>beat Harry Potter
>was the 3rd movie in a series following 2 movies that everyone shat on
>still 800million
That is a fucking good job done.
>>62922521
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm
>Avatar
>#14
>>62922549
No it's not dumbshit. SW made 2.3 billion $ with inflation.
That's almost 3 times more.
>>62922555
>i-if I move the goalpost its not #1
it's #1 and will be 2 months from now and Titanic will still be #2
>>62920379
Especially with that nigger as the star
>>62922523
Actually the original star wars is behind both Avatar and Titanic, even when adjusted for inflation.
>>62921560
Yeah, people somehow forget Star Wars is owned by Disney now, if there's one thing they can do is market the shit out of their franchises
>>62922555
>domestic only
kek
>>62922595
>adjusting for inflation
Literally the worst method for measuring success.
>>62922644
It's not because there is no accurate list for adjusted worldwide box office.
The ones that exist are just bullcrap made by bloggers.
>>62920231
5 times. I need all 4 of AMCs posters.
Avatar only hit 2 billion because it was in theaters for like a year. Star Wars will smash it.
>>62922690
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films#Highest-grossing_films_adjusted_for_inflation
>Guinness world records
>all other sources confirm
>>62922703
They also released an extended cut. Everyone who cared saw that movie at least twice.
>>62922703
A film doesn't just end up in theatres for a year by accident, you dumb pleb.
>the prequals were garbage flicks
>>62922703
They sldo had no competition. Now there's way more family movies at XMas time
Plus Michael Bay has a Benghazi movie coming in January
>>62922836
>Star Was was ever good
>>62922703
>avatar only sold so well because it was in theatres so long
How can one man be so dumb?
>>62922884
>not watching it for the Sheev story arc
>>62921481
It's your life nigga do whatever you want.
That being said I'll probably do that too.
Say what you will about the prequels but Lucas did a good job keeping SW relevant.
I never watched avatar, was too busy playing video games when it came out and after it never seemed interesting enough to bother to watch it.
makes me feel like a virgin, should I watch it?
>>62923116
I thought the universe was better established tbqh
>interesting politics
>visiting more than 3 or 4 planets
>shitton more alien species
>learn about people's entertainment (podracing, etc)
>>62923116
wouldve been nice if some decent movies were made though too
>>62923317
to me that was one of its biggest mistakes. it tried to be too big and everything was done lifelessly and it was generally too crammed losing focus more than once
>>62923297
No it's full of boring clichés and tropes with a predictable and preachy plot that's all CGI so it might as well be a video game you can't play. It has more green screen than Attack of the Clones. Forgettable characters, plot, soundtrack, everything was bland and tired and disinteresting shlock.
>>62923317
it was excellent worldbuilding. And the story wasn't horrible. Just [spoilers] NERDS [/spoiler] nitpicking stuff mostly. But production was horrible. the 98% CGI was Lucas being a lazy cunt.
>>62922426
I remember it was like the first 3D movie in theaters, people just wanted to try the 3D cinema didn't give a shit about the movie itself
>>62923297
it's not very good. it's pretty much inter-species pocahontas in space.
>>62920136
congrats.
>>62923392
so "oh, cool, 3D!"- the movie is the best grossing movie ever? wow
>>62922703
Avatar hit 2 billions because
>muh 3D revolution you must see with your own eyes
>>62923392
I don't see what that image is trying to convey, it's not like Interstellar is a good movie.
>>62923467
It's sad, yeah. The only people that defend cameron are the people that like rooting for the highest grossing movie because it gives them a sense of personal superiority.
>>62923400
The story was dumb, there was literally no reason for TPM to exist at all
>>62923467
>>62923502
>>62923718
Titanic didn't have 3D and is STILL the highest-grossing movie of all time bar Jim's next creation.
>>62923718
lel, Titanic is #2
>>62923794
>not wanting to know about Obi-Wan and him becoming Anakin's master
avengers age of ultron part 2
>>62923297
Its not a bad movie, just unoriginal and little overrated (>>62923392
). Visuals are great, worldbuilding nice, story cliché, characters rather boring.
Generally, Cameron is the genius and master of lowest common denominator, mechs and battles (or chases on sinking ships) for boys, romance for girls, great visual effect and story simple enough to follow for everybody.
>>62921622
>literally nothing wrong
Gone with the Wind grossed more
>>62923831
>>62923835
This is about how avatar doesn't deserve its place as number 1. stop moving the goalpost.
>>62922745
>Actually the original star wars is behind both Avatar and Titanic, even when adjusted for inflation.
>links source proving himself wrong.
It's ranked 3rd, ahead of titanic. Behind Gonw With the Wind and Avatar
>>62924214
Dumb kek. Are you so retarded that you didn't read the footnote which says that the Titanic rerelease added an additional $300m to the total, putting it ahead of Star Wars?
star wars will get kicked out as fast as Josie and the pussycats
>>62922689
its a reasonably close proxy for total ticket sales, which is a good method for measuring success.
>>62920231
Once when the rip comes out
>>62922703
avatar made mad dosh because of those juicy 3d ticket sales.
star wars has a lot of hype behind it nothing behind it's production is a guarantee of quailty. if i had to put money on it i'd say it'll be some barely above average, inoffensive, "progressive" movie trying too hard to be different to the original trilogy while still making corny throwbacks and ending on a cliffhanger. man, given that luke is yet to be seen on the trailers i'm feeling the very last scene will be the big bad hoodie wearing sith lord unveiling himself to be leia's brother.
U saw avatar twice. I absolutely will not see the second avatar. I will see the new star wars though.
I think the only big variable here is China.. China has grown since the first avatar and they love that awful movie for some reason.
So basically avatar 2 will be the biggest movie ever because somehow Chinese plebs are worse than western plebs
>>62920061
>which is completely ridiculous for December
how is it ridiculous?
more people go to the cinema in winter than in the summer, Titanic and Avatar were both December releases
>>62923402
This, before Avatar all 3D movies were gimmicky shit like fucking Spy Kids that still used the Blue-Red 3D glasses that only had like 1 minute of scenes worth the 3D.
All of the imagery in Avatar, however, was done so it would pop out all the time and with the environment the movie had, it worked amazingly, not only that but its a story people would easily like so thats why it did so well.
>>62924693
December releases don't usually have big opening weeks because often people are busy doing other shit, and spending time with their family, plus the weather can be an issue. People do watch movies in December, just not right when they open. Avatar had a pretty small OW at 77 million, I don't remember Titanic but I don't think it had a huge OW either.
>>62924580
>if i had to put money on it i'd say it'll be some barely above average, inoffensive, "progressive" movie
So like Avatar then
>>62925387
now what does this tell us? OW doesn't mean shit for the eventual box office record
>>62924580
>Luke being the big bad
If that is the case, I am done with Star Wars. Luke is the epitome of light side. His dad killed his mentor, tried to kill him and his sister, blew up a planet and Luke still resisted the Dark side and seen the Light within his father enough to convince him to turn on Sideous.
>>62925476
Wasn't avatar in the theaters for some ridiculous amount of time? It almost seemed unfair. I swear that shit was out into the spring where I lived.
>>62925574
>unfair
The only reason it was in theatres for so long is because it was making consistent money week after week.
>>62925476
>now what does this tell us?
It tells us it will make a serious run at Avatar's domestic record.
>OW doesn't mean shit for the eventual box office record
Crowd pleasing movies with good OW=huge box office
If you don't get a good OW then unless you have a gimmick like Avatar you're not gonna see big numbers.
>>62925642
>If you don't get a good OW then unless you have a gimmick like Avatar you're not gonna see big numbers.
Titanic
>>62920176
The chinese box office grew by 500% from 2009 to 2015
>>62925695
Things were different back then, nowadays movies are incredibly frontloaded. Plus the song was fucking everywhere.
>>62925642
Avatar doesn't even have the highest domestic record. Accounting for inflation titantic beats it by about 300m.
Mate, it's fucking Star Wars, your grandma will watch it.
My dream job is marketing at Star Wars. Sit down, write the title, win.
>tfw got free tickets
I work at my local cineplex.
>>62926592
Thanks for sharing
