>Comes off as a hippy dippy new age slighty nutty mild eccentric type
>All of his films are incredibly dark and often extremely bleak and cynical
Is there a bigger wolf in sheep's clothing in cinema?
>>62902123
Watched Inland Empire last night.
Pretty great but one question I have is why do quite a few of his films have themes of lesbianism in them?
lynch is the poor mans cronenberg
lynch is the poor man's filmmaker
Fuck his movies, let's talk about his music.
https://youtu.be/zoyNlJw1jIc
>>62903277
pretty mediocre, but you can't blame him
Do you think he's on the autism spectrum?
>>62903246
>>62903272
>>62903220
Why not?
You have the creative power to have two attractive women kiss and simulate sex
Why wouldn't you make them?
>>62903246
>lynch is the poor mans cronenberg
I kind of agree with this.
Doesn't mean that Lynch isn't good though. He's sorta like the Pepsi to Cronenberg's Coke.
>>62903246
lol
>>62903578
Yes. He's puts-panties-in-mouth-on-camera tier.
>>62903578
directors kind of have to be
>>62902123
I don't know the first thing about "Sunset Boulevard" I want to check it out since it's apparently one of Lynch's great, great favorites, and I dig his style.
Anything about that movie?
Living in Philadelphia is what made films incredibly dark.
>>62903926
Can confirm. Philly is hell.
>>62903725
Do you mean Mulholland Drive? Sunset Boulevard is Wilder's movie.
alls I know is the man has the best hair ever put on the head of a human
>>62904026
I wish I had grey hair, it looks so distinguished, ive always liked it.
>>62902123
>he will die within your lifetime, maybe withing five years
>>62903220
Why not? In Twin Peaks he writes himself in just to kiss the shows best girl.
>>62902123
I feel like over the years he's started to detach himself from reality, in another 5 years I'll predict he'll be in a sort of Smug Pepe stage.
>>62905149
He's already there anon.
>>62902123
I don't see how that makes him a wolf in sheep's clothing, actually.
![utena-wallpaper[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Wo6S4kn.jpg "utena-wallpaper[1].jpg")
>>62903220
Lynch is the Ikuhara of film.
>>62903603
he's way more fun than Cronenberg
>>62905149
>>62905168
What's Mulholland Drive about?
>"A love story in the city of LA"
What's Inland Empire about
>"A woman in trouble"
Care to explain further?
>his face
It must be frustrating for a horror director knowing he or she will never make something as scary as that fucking mud man in Muholland Drive or Bob crawling towards Maddie in Twin Peaks.
can someone explain why Eraserhead is so fucking dark?
I get it fits a theme, but I could hardly see shit for 90% of the time viewing
I got a headache from squinting so much
>>62905290
that fuckin scene with mud man almost killed my grandmaa ..never expected that to happen....fuck that shit
>>62905290
>that fucking mud man in Muholland Drive
Don't fucking trigger me mang, I've seen Mulholland Drive at least six times, and shit my pants every time during that scene, everything about it is perfect, from the tension buildup in the diner, to his face, to the jumpscare.
>>62905290
>implying any other person on the face of this earth can actually reach that.
>>62905312
Because your monitor is shit.
>>62905350
I watched it on a 32" LED TV, m8
>>62905355
Well, you had the brightness too low or something. I watched it and I didn't have that problem.
>>62903926
It's what made Eraserhead incredibly dark. Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire (especially the latter two) are obviously inspired by Hollywood and his own experience in the movie industry.
>>62905290
I'm sure this is a 4chan meme. Me and everyone (like 12) people I've shown it to never thought that part remotely scary or unnerving at all, I laughed when I saw it thinking it was just Lynch's sense of humour.
>>62903220
Because it sells. Not just in a box office sense, but in a critical sense as well. Compare Lost Highway to Inland Empire and Mulholland Drive. The films are all incredibly similar, but Lost Highway is the most maligned. That's because it focuses on the frustration of male sexuality, whereas the other two are more about self-love (or the lack thereof) using lesbianism as a metaphor (although there is literal lesbianism in MD).
lynch is the poor man's christopher nolan
>>62905290
The build-up is what made the scene so tense. Lynch was going for a jumpscare when he filmed that, and considering MD is not labelled as horror audiences are not going to expect such artifice. The mud monster however is not scary itself
>>62903977
He meant Lynch's favourite movie.
>>62905290
funny story that homeless person/mud man is played by a woman
>>62903246
>"lynch is the poor mans"
>which classic surrealist is he going
>"cronenberg"
Watch Scanners and sit in awe as you are enveloped by it's aura ;)
>>62905149
David Lynch used to smoke 5 packs of cigarettes a day and consume 30 cups of coffee a day. It's no wonder he's pretty detached from reality.
>>62909256
He must have shit a lot.
>>62909440
Not if he didnt eat.
I hope everyone here is paying their dues and expanding their creativity through Transcendental Meditation™
>>62902123
Sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw21aEIa8ZA
>>62908374
>Watch Scanners and sit in awe as you are enveloped by it's aura ;)
>>62902123
What does this guy come across like in interviews? I've heard he seems down to Earth /humble.
I thought he'd be pretentious so I haven't seen or heard an interview on that basis.
Post your top 3 Lynch films.
>Lost Highway
>Blue Velvet
>Eraserhead
>>62909743
>I thought he'd be pretentious so I haven't seen or heard an interview on that basis.
He's not pretentious at all, it's his hardcore fans that are. He was just a painter who liked the idea of moving paintings, so he ended up making some films and the rest is history.
>>62909832
That might be why I came to that conclusion, I shouldn't assume things, I keep telling myself that.
In all honesty I don't really watch interviews with Directors or Actors, I just want to see what they make.
Might be because I want to be immersed in the film rather than thinking about background processes and how actors are in real life.
>>62909663
Its all available for free and worth a look.
Lynch should do a pure horror film, that would be a creepy thing to behold surely.
I remember Twin Peaks growing up and if a drama can be that spooky then imagine what he could do with a pure scary film.
I believe the Alphabet short film is creepy, never got around to watching it.
I've seen the one with the rabbits.
Passing interest for me rather than avid fan.
>>62909776
Eraserhead
Blue Velvet
The first half of Lost Highway
and the second half of Inland Empire
>>62903246
"I need as much traditional storytelling as possible in order to be adequately spoonfed ideologies." the post
reality: corn-enberg is a poor man's lynch
>>62910138
Why can't they both be talented? I'm not being a hippy when I say that.
Lynch is disjointed garbled experimental art.
Lets call it an acquired taste.
I don't get why you'd mock David Cronenberg.
I'm not the guy you responded to btw.
>>62910408
>disjointed and garbled
Kek
>>62909895
Background information with David really helps if you're really confused what's going on in his films, so I'd say it's vital if his films leave you thinking that they're meaningless. A lot of his emotions and situations that are happening around the time of their writing really fuels what they're about.
Plus, David is really just such an interesting guy to listen to. He could talk about anything and the way he tells it makes it fascinating.
>>62910138
>I need as much traditional storytelling as possible
Your the guy who thinks he's better than other people for watching shitty experimental films
>>62910489
If he had commentaries on his films, I'd like to hear that.
I understood or should I say comprehended Mulholland Drive.
When Twin Peaks aired I got it. Eraserhead I do get it.
I don't even want to sound like I'm disrespecting him.
~When I say understood, I got the jist and filled in the blanks on my own which is cool to do sometimes with films.
Naomi Watts audition scene in MD was so great, I can't ut it into words fully.
It's a mixed bag of emotions, my attitude towards David Lynch, On the one hand I like experimental and multi layered things on the other hand I like some structure.
A comparison would be music, I like a certain set of rules.
>>62905315
>>62902123
>mild eccentric
>mild
He protested the Academy Awards with a sign saying "without cows there wouldn't have been an inland empire"
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>>62902123
>Is there a bigger wolf in sheep's clothing in cinema?
There is one in TV at least
>>62910647
>If he had commentaries on his films, I'd like to hear that.
As far as I know he has a very negative opinion on commentary tracks. I think he considers it kind of disrespectful to talk over a movie. He's generally not big on explaining his intentions and I can respect him for that. If you just state your own intention you take away peoples opportunity to come to their own conclussions, robbing them of a possibly meaningful experience.
I think he put it that way "You make thinks smaller by talking about them, unless you're a poet."
>>62903246
>>62903603
He's the poor man's Buñuel you illiterates
Is every Lynch movie a copy of Ingmar Bergman's Vargtimmens? It certainly feels like it.
>>62905290
>or she
>>62903220
Female sexuality is the pathway to god
>>62902123
Do these two fucks look alike or what?
>>62912599
Definitely feels like it had an influence on Lynch's style but I think he stated Carnival of Souls is what his biggest inspiration was.
>>62905499
watch out guys there's a real life tough guy in this thread with us.
I am not an elephant. I am not an animal. I am a human being... A man
>>62912599
At least there are undeniable similarities between Mulholland Drive and Persona. I'd even argue the former is a spiritual remake of Bergman's movie.
>>62909776
Blue Velvet
Eraserhead
Blue Velvet
pretty common I know but I liked Lost Highway for what it is. that scene with the meme man and the phone was pretty awesome.
>>62903246
They're both good, but different.
>>62912939
>blue velvet twice
meant to put mulholland drive on the list
>>62910408
This comparison is simply a mistake.
Lynch HAS done populist work (see Elephant Man and Dune). They are better than the entire Cronenberg's catalog and they are also widely regarded as his lesser works.
I'm not trying to diminish Cronenberg who is a great director, but Lynch is in another cinematic sphere, in a pantheon of filmmaking Gods, there is no way...no way. A better fit comparison would be German and Lynch. Not Cronenberg, despite being a very good director.
>>62912791
Not really.
>>62909776
Blue Velvet
Eraserhead
The Elephant Man
I wish Lynch would do a body horror type film, that would be cool, I can see him doing a great adaptation of Charles Burn's Black Hole with a little assistance from either Cronenburg or John Carpenter.
>>62913155
>I wish Lynch would do a body horror type film, that would be cool, I can see him doing a great adaptation of Charles Burn's Black Hole with a little assistance from either Cronenburg or John Carpenter.
Drooling out the mouth rn
>>62913155
Cronenberg only does pretentious drama now. He would add nothing.
>>62903578
>>62903687
>directors kind of have to be
you almost literally need the autistic spectrum trait of chronic insomnia to be ABLE to function as a direction.
He's a lolbertarian
>>62905194
Pretty sure Ikuhara was heavily inspired my David Lynch.
>>62903725
Just watch it. It's a good one. Aging, crazy, obscenely wealthy movie star hires a screenwriter to live in her mansion and write her crazy, ambitious vanity project, her "big comeback." Things go downhill from there.
Billy Wilder is a great director, his films have aged very well, most of his work is still watchable and entertaining for modern audiences
>>62913478
>Cronenberg only does pretentious drama now.
He's made more masterpieces in the last 15 years than Lynch has in his entire lareer.
>>62913478
I haven't been too thrilled with his screenplay choices, but he seems to be better with actors and camera work/craftsmanship than ever. If you gave him an old-school body horror script, he'd probably make the best one of his career
>>62903246
Lynch is 10 better than Cronenberg though.
>>62912365
Literally every surrealist film director is poor man's Buñuel, that's without saying. Did you discover Buñuel yesterday and started to name drop him or something?
>Elder God tier:
Elephant Man, Twin Peaks, Mulholland Dr.
>Great tier:
Lost Highway, Eraserhead, Blue Velvet
>Good tier:
Inland Empire,FWWM, Most of his shorts and commercials
>Okay tier:
The Straight Story,Dune
>Shit tier:
Wild at Heart
>>62905194
>/tv/ has constant EVA/EoE threads
>no threads for the superior 3deep5u anime and it's respective film.
Why, /tv/? Why?
>>62914704
>Okay tier
>Dune
You have to be memeing, Lynch's name is even removed in some versions
>>62914793
It's better than Wild at Heart. Some of the set designs and visual effects are well made if a little dated. It's just okay. I have yet to watch the extended version. Worse or better?
>>62914736
Right? I haven't even met an anime fan irl that's watched Utena. It's an absurdist masterpiece.
where should i start as a guy who never watched any of his movies exceptthe rabbits
>>62914890
Chronological order of course.
>>62914890
Probably Blue Velvet or maybe Eraserhead if you want something weirder.
>I make 2deep4you flicks and you're too dumb to understand what I'm trying to accomplish
>It makes me a good director
yeah nah.
Also Rabbits is the best
>>62914832
>It's better than Wild at Heart.
Absolutely not.
I never saw the extended version, after I saw the original I swore I'd touch anything Dune related again.
>>62914980
His films aren't "2deep4you" at all, they're simply surrealistic, so yeah you don't understand what he is trying to accomplish at all.
>>62914890
Eraserhead, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive and Inland Empire.
>>62914832
Wild At Heart has Bobby Peru in it, which is better than ANYTHING in Dune.
>>62914890
The first one I watched was "Lost Highway," and it got me hooked. One or two of the main actors are pretty bad, and it's kind of dated in a cheesy '90s way. But to me, it's still the best example of his unsettling, nightmare atmosphere and cerebral, inner-mind storytelling
>>62915090
Feyd Rautha and the Baron>Bobby Peru
Willem Dafoe is the only redeeming quality about it. But no surprise since he is a great actor.
>>62915090
Wild at Heart is definitely a "fans-only" movie, though. I like it personally, but I've showed or recommended it to a few friends or family members over the years, and the response I get it usually somewhere along the lines of "That was the worst movie I've ever seen, why the fuck would you like that?" And I kind of get it. The tone is all over the place, the plot is all over the place, every actor seems like they're playing in a completely different movie. And there's an almost John Waters-ish "bad taste" energy to the whole thing.
I wouldn't say it's his "worst" movie, but definitely the least accessible. I've found that even Inland Empire gets a better response from people. Lots of people get bored with it, but nobody has outright HATED it like Wild at Heart.
>>62915368
>Willem Dafoe is the only redeeming quality about it.
Um, no. You have Jack Nance, Grace Zabriskie, Isabella Rossellini, Sherilyn Fenn, and Diane Ladd who are all great in the film.
Laura Dern and Nicholas Cage are very iffy in the film, but it's honestly not their faults. David, for whatever reason, wanted them to be that way. I mean, we all know Laura Dern can act. And Nicholas Cage is great when he has a director that knows how to work with him.
>>62915588
The only other performance that excels is Diane Ladd's but it's not enough to save the movie. Nic and Laura are great actors but not in this movie, so it's kind of hard to feel anything for them when they're bad and the script and tone is all over the place. All of the other actors you mentioned had better performances from them in other David Lynch movies.
>>62909776
>Mulholland Dr.
>Lost Highway
>Blue Velvet or Eraserhead, can't choose
Haven't seen IE or FWWM so it could change
>>62902123
He's also a republican.
>>62909776
1. Eraserhead
2. Lost Highway/FWWM (tie)
3. Inland Empire
>>62915791
>All of the other actors you mentioned had better performances from them in other David Lynch movies.
I don't see how that means that their performances are bad in this movie. Willem Dafoe has done better performances than in this movie, but that doesn't make his performance in this movie bad.
>>62915868
Nah, democrat, but leaning towards libertarianism. He does love Reagan, but then again, almost everyone did at the time.
>>62915950
>He does love Reagan, but then again, almost everyone did at the time
yeah, he was the trump of their time making everyone feel secure and shit
>>62915950
I think more actors should be President. Just put a bunch of smart people in his cabinet to tell him what to say and do, and let him go off to be charismatic, good-looking and likable at press functions and meetings with international leaders & dignitaries. I honestly think that's the most important part of the job. If everybody likes the President it makes things go a lot smoother, he doesn't have to make the important decisions all by himself
>>62902123
Lynch seeks to balance the darkness with light.
One must pass through the Black lodge on the way to perfection
>>62903220
Wasn't much lesbianism in Inland empire was there? I mean the only one that sticks out to me is Mulholland Drive.
>>62905596
>whereas the other two are more about self-love (or the lack thereof) using lesbianism as a metaphor
I like this interpretation
>>62916131
I kind of agree. A president needs to improve morale first and foremost, and as a diplomat they need to get along with others one way or another while defending their countries' interests. Actors are good with following directions and as such, having a team of actual politicians writing the script and adequate time, they'd be far more effective than career politicians at making people at ease inside their nations and outside.
>>62903246
That's funny because Lynch's output is way more consistent in terms of quality than Cronenberg's.
>inb4 "consistently shit"
>>62912925
Agree. Also feels like Lost Highway borrows a bit from The Last Wave, but Lynch did it better.
>>62914888
lol what are you, 30?
get off 4chans old man
>>62916551
In matters of age and intellectual ability, it is safe to say that 20 year olds are about as valuable as newborn babies. Every year past 20 is finally a year of real knowledge.
Not even 30 is old enough.....
>>62916261
Especially if it was someone with real international star quality and box-office draw, it'd do wonders for foreign relations. China and Japan would literally bow down to Marvel's President Chris Evans. And for some inexplicable reason, Vladimir Putin has a close personal friendship with Steven Seagal, so there's your veep, I guess
>>62916671
I can't blame him, I'd love to be friends with Steven Seagal too.
>>62913617
>2015
>hates freedom.
Karl Pilkington's favourite film is The Elephant Man.
>Karl fucking Pilkington is more patrician than most of /tv/
>>62914211
I've only watched the seven year itch and didn't really like it. How indicative is that film of his style?
>>62916671
Dennis Rodman is one of Kim Yong Un's homies so there's a connection there too. World peace could become a reality.
>>62916961
Not very. That one seemed like kind of an experiment for him, an attempt at something more commercial. He's usually sharper and a bit more cynical. Kind of along the lines of Sidney Lumet at his best, though I personally like Wilder better. Ace in the Hole, Sunset Boulevard, The Apartment, and Stalag 17 are my favorites.
Also very good: Some Like it Hot, Double Indemnity, The Lost Weekend, Sabrina, Witness for the Prosecution
>>62917080
It's funny how some people criticize sports and movies and whatnot for distracting us from larger problems when those are some of the few things that bring a large array of people together.
>>62914888
had a gf that loved utena, and we watched it together completely. its awesome, its very very good. im not even an "anime fan".
>>62917915
Utena is an outright masterpiece in the anime genre. One of the few shows I revisit at least once a year.
>>62902123
He sublimates his dark side through his films, or at least he used to when he still made films.
What are some actually good surrealist directors?
>>62919089
>watches Un Chien Andalou once
>>62919146
I didn't like that movie. I liked Mulholland Drive but Lynch's other stuff sucks. I love El Topo and The Holy Mountian though.
>>62915526
>nicolas cage dancing to metal
>laura dern mostly naked
I enjoyed it
>>62904525
that bastard i hate him
>almost done with no fap november
>watch Inland Empire and Blue Velvet again
>wet dreams over Laura Dern
>skeet all over new sheets and boxers
>>62919358
don't forget
>nicolas cage singing elvis
U nuggets ever watch The Grandmother?
You can clearly see the path to Eraserhead
>>62912194
>>62919501
AFI had such a massive fucking hardon for lynch, it's a shame film schools aren't really like that anymore
>>62920323
I really don't understand how Lynch's career happened. He had major studio funding & releasing/advertising power for his weird-ass visions. By today's standards, all of his movies would be COMPLETELY unmarketable
>>62920428
Eraserhead was a huge hit on the underground cult + midnight movie circuit. Whenever it screened it was massively popular and its weirdness spread like folklore.
Mel Brooks also helped him get the Elephant Man gig because he knew about the midnight movie screenings and loved Eraserhead.
>>62920634
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2008/jul/27/42
>The first day of shooting with David was in October 1979 and a bit chilly. And he'd arrived without a coat. So I bought him a nice blue overcoat that he wore every day, and he moaned about not having Bob's Big Boys burgers. He's very obsessive-compulsive that way, but, you know, he did find a burger joint in London and he ate there every day, too.
>>62905290
I found Mystery Man to be more spoopy
