Which 6 film saga is better overall?
Despite the Hobbit flicks, LotR evens out better, though if we'd be debating the original respective trilogies, I'd pick Star Wars.
Star Wars.
the sheev memes from episode 3 alone cause he prequels to top the hobbit trilogy
star wars
Tolkien>Lucas
Hackson coulda done better with The Hobbit but the first two SW prequels were worse by comparison
Only if you're interested in :The Warriors + The Godfather: in Chinese, of course.
Police Academy
>>62899963
Star Wars. George Lucas couldn't have fucked up The Hobbit more if he tried.
Lord of the Rings based on the strength of the first three movies. I like the original trilogy for Star Wars, but not nearly as much.
>>62899963
Who could seriously answer star wars?
ROTJ was a step down from ESB, whereas ROTK kept the same quality. The prequels are astonishingly bad, we've just become numb to them.
>>62899963
The Saw franchise
>>62900094
>George Lucas couldn't have fucked up The Hobbit more if he tried
And now I want to see what he would have done, desperately
>>62899963
They both kind of suck honestly.
LoTR is just bloated as fuck in general and starwars is an absolute mess.
I still would rather watch star wars and it has a place in my heart due to nostalgia but overall I think both are not as great as some people think.
For all their issues I would rather watch the new Hobbit films than have to watch the Star Wars prequels again so I guess the loTRs series.
>>62899963
Trash trash trash boring boring boring
VERSUS
Trash trash trash Great Great Decent
Star Wars.
But the LotR movies are the best trilogy.
V > ROTK > FOTR > IV > TT > VI > III > I > AUJ > DOS > II > BOFA
Is this a fucking bait?
LOTR movies are fucking flawless, and even with hobbit movies being shit, LOTR movies are miles better than fucking star wars aka most overrated piece of shit ever
The Hobbit - 6/10
The Hobbit 2 - 6,5/10
The Hobbit 3 - 5/10
LOTR 1 - 10/10
LOTR 2 - 10/10
LOTR 3 - 10/10
VS
SW 1 - 2/10
SW 2 - 1,5/10
SW 3 - 4/10
SW 4 - 7/10
SW 5 - 7,5/10
SW 6 - 5/10
Star Wars
>>62902391
Your rankings are shit
Which 6 film saga contains the Fellowship of the Ring?
That's the best one.
>>62902391
those are soem janky rankings mah friend
They're both for manchilds but LOTR at least has some decent acting.
>>62902218
DEFINITIVE
>>62899963
LotR by virtue of follow up trilogy being less shit than Star Wars'
>>62902218
If you switched FotR and RotK I would actually probably agree with that. RotK was my favorite when I was younger but during the last few watched FotR just feels better.
The Lord of The Rings stays consistently good for all 3 movies, whereas Star Wars takes a noticeable drop in quality with ROTJ. Out of all of the "prequels" for both of them, Star Wars Episode III is the only remotely good one.
LOTR wins overall because the original 3 movies were so fucking powerful and masterfully made, and while Star Wars is very entertaining it does quite hit you as strongly,
>>62902574
RotK was a 7/10 movie
>>62899963
LotR alone > the six SW movies
The six SW movies > LotR + Hobbit
The Hobbit was a mistake.
>>62902391
ESB is a much better middle of a trilogy film than TT, it's not even close between them. ESB is a 10/10 and TT is a 7.5
This is not really relevant to the discussion but I have a question. Do you think Star Wars would be as big as it is if it was not for the massive toy campaign that ran during it. Every one I have spoke with that loves the movies remember the toys just as fondly if not more.
>>62900011
>though if we'd be debating the original respective trilogies, I'd pick Star Wars
Most meme post I have ever seen. LotR is a masterpiece of epic proportions. Something that hasnt been before and will never be. The original Star Wars movie arent even remotely close to that.
>>62902391
How do you score movies something/10?
Not arguing; genuinely interested?
Is there some sort of rubric?
Like for example, how can all three LOTRs be "perfect"?
>>62902693
Because FotR and RotK are objectively perfect. Everything is on point. The cast, the costumes, the story, the tension, the CGI, the pace. You can hardly find a flaw even if you try really hard to find one.
Of course one could argue that they are too bloated, too long etc. However, their execution was flawless and the length of the movies still significantly shorter than the books. Something as arbitrary as length shouldnt be taken into account when theres a story to be told. I still feel that the whole 'this movie is too long' bullshit never made any sense. Who says that a story is bloated? Who says that the elements you consider irrelevant arent somewhat important to the development of the characters? To me its hardly even possible for a movie to be too long. With TT its a bit different, though.
>>62902655
>Do you think Star Wars would be as big as it is if it was not for the massive toy campaign that ran during it. Every one I have spoke with that loves the movies remember the toys just as fondly if not more.
Uh, correlation does not equal causation
If everyone you spoke to that loves the movies also loved the toys, they were children when exposed to the movies. Children love toys. Wow, no shit.
The more reasonable connection is childhood nostalgia, they were never able to see star wars with the critical mind of an adult. Of course the only way to know if that makes a difference is to speak with people who were too old for the toys.
>>62899963
>2 amazingly shitty prequel trilogies
>2 very well made trilogies
I don't know I think I hated the Star Wars prequels more so Lord of the Rings
>>62902757
>Because FotR and RotK are objectively perfect. Everything is on point. The cast, the costumes, the story, the tension, the CGI, the pace. You can hardly find a flaw even if you try really hard to find one.
Here's one thing that always stood out the most to me. It's my only "what" moment in all 3 movies.
In ROTK the witch king crushes gandalf's staff with his mind effortlessly, but when some horn calls he leaves gandalf to go fight some other group way less important than the human's resident wizard god.
Also, "DIE" was a really cringe-worthy line when the lady and midget confronted him.
>>62899963
LotR
It isn't even a question.
The Star Wars OT is 1 good film, 1 outstanding film, and 1 okay film.
LotR are all 3 outstanding films.
>>62902834
Well, the thing about Gandalf is that he is an eternal being. Hes more of a guide than an actual soldier of an army. According to lore hes on the level of the uba ultra elves so I am not even sure the WK a) could kill him and b) if he wouldnt get revived immediately afterwards.
Never got into LOTR. I read half way through the trilogy and gave up when the trees started walking. The whole book had characters doing practically nothing but walking, having an episode, then walking again. I can respect their place in the Fantasy canon, or whatever, but it just doesn't engage me as a story.
Star Wars was shoved down my consumerist throat as a kid, so I had the movies on tape, the toys, etc. I loved it (I even liked Jedi the most for some reason), but now I'm passed it's marvel.
So, I think it all depends on where you are in life when exposed to them. Which begs my original question, how does one rate these things outside of personal feeling?
Neither LOTR or SW are any close to "flawless" cinema. I'm not sure I could even come up with an example of something that is, but I guess I should just GTFO of this thread, right?
>>62902834
Jackson made a few mistakes in the extended edition of RoTK, and that was one of them. That scene should have been kept out, along with the escape from the Paths of the Dead. It just feels better to end it on "What say you?" instead of "We fight." In fact, RoTK had the highest highs and lowest lows of the trilogy in general.
As for OP, I'm ranking it Jackson>Lucas, but LOTR>SWOT>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hobbit>>>>Prequels
Original 6 nightmare on elm streets
auj>ep1;dos>ep2;botfa<ep3;fotr>anh;tt<esb;rotk>rotj
>>62902391
The Hobbit - 5/10
The Hobbit 2 - 4/10
The Hobbit 3 - 3/10
LOTR 1 - 9/10
LOTR 2 - 7/10
LOTR 3 - 8/10
VS
SW 1 - 3/10
SW 2 - 1/10
SW 3 - 2/10
SW 4 - 8/10
SW 5 - 9/10
SW 6 - 6/10
>>62901936
Aren't there 7 of those?
>>62903120
>highlight
>right click
>search google
>left click
>being this lazy of a faggot
Also saw 3d is non-canon
Hard choice but I think Star Wars.
I can actually VIEW the prequels and enjoy bits of it. Not so sure about Hobbit II and III
Star Wars because it's not a shitty watered down version of a great book series.
The Fellowship of the Ring is better than all the rest of those movies combined.
The Hobbit 4/10
The Hobbit 2 could not finish
The Hobbit 3 did not even try to watch it
star wars prequels - 4/10 horrible but i like new star wars material
lotr trilogy - fucking masterpiece
star wars trilogy - 7/10 highly overrated
i'm gonna have to go with star wars because the universe has been fleshed out so well outside of the movies and because the hobbit is unforgivable
Damn, very split opinions.
Original LOTR never changes its quality level of being amazing. Star Wars (original) does, but I think it might be better, especially with ESB
I mean... ESB beats ROTK and TT without a doubt. It depends on Fellowship i Guess
The Hobbit stories didn't rape the lore or anything TOO badly, while Star Wars prequels did. But... I think the Star Wars prequels were viewable and enjoyable overall. I don't know if I could sit through the Hobbit again (the first and second one maybe, but never the third.)
Well... episode 1 was pretty shit too.
I think SW wins...
And for those other posts: Fellowship is better than ROTK. Don't be silly.
>>62902679
>epic
XD
LOTR 1: 8/10
LOTR 2: 8/10
LOTR 3: 10/10
Hobbit 1: 3/10
Hobbit 2: 4/10
Hobbit 3: 6/10
Average: 6.5
Star Wars 1: 3/10
Star Wars 2: 2/10
Star Wars 3: 7/10
Star Wars 4: 9/10
Star Wars 5: 10/10
Star Wars 6: 7.5/10
Average 6.4
I saw the 2nd Hobbit movie with my dad, not knowing it was part 2 in a 3 part trilogy, and we enjoyed ourselves.
I haven't even seen the first or last part, but part 2 was good.
>>62903327
>hobbit 3
>6/10
Ban this user, mods.
>>62903327
>hobbit 3
>6/10
Why do you guys hate the Hobbit so much?
Just cause you had such high expectations?
I expected it to be dogshit, and found the flicks pretty enjoyable.
>>62899963
LotR is infinitely better than the kiddie shit that is the Star Wars "Prequels/Originals"
The Hobbit has about the same rating as the original star wars triology, and the third one from each triology being really fucking bad, of course nostalgiafaggots will argue that RotJ is actually a good flick, but so will nostalgiafags in the future do about the five armies
>There is plebs who actually think ANY Star Wars movie was anything but entertainment for small kids around the age 6-9
>mfw Star Wars fans are literally bronies but more widely accepted because they' don't fantasize about fucking horses
Lord of the Rings is a 10/10
I'd say Star Wars, only because the crummy films have decent run times. Hobbit just goes on and on and on.
Lord of the Rings was better produced but I prefer the story line of Star Wars.
LOTR, it's not even close. Fellowship alone is better than the entirety of Star Wars
>>62902391
AUJ: 6/10
DoS: 3/10
BotFA: 1/10
Fellowship: 10/10
Two Towers: 9/10
Return of the King: 8/10
TPM: 2/10
AotC: 1/10
RotS: 5/10
ANH: 8/10
ESB: 10/10
RotJ: 6/10
>>62900037
It's actually Peter Jackson vs. George Lucas considering we aren't comparing the books.
Tolkien > Lucas > Jackson
Jackson loses because he was intentionally bad whereas Lucas is just on the spectrum.
LoTR: 3 great movies+1 decent.
Star Wars: 2 great movies+1 decent.
>>62902679
Bitch, LOTR wouldn't even exist if it weren't for Star Wars.
>>62904487
Yes it's a little known fact that Tolkein was inspired by Lucas' work to write his books
>>62904506
I'm talking about the movies, genius.
Star Wars. The hobbit trilogy really pissed me off
>>62899963
>Lotr:
>Prequels are irredeemable shit, probably some of the worst movies I've actually paid to see, 1/5
>Original trilogy is absolutely fantastic, 5/5
>Total: 6 points
>SW:
>Prequels are mediocre 2/5
>Original trilogy is mostly great 4/5
>Total: 6 points
They are even, however I never plan to rewatch Hobbit, while I'll most certainly rewatch SW: Prequels at some point.
The Hobbit - 5/10
The Hobbit 2 - 4/10
The Hobbit 3 - 3/10
LOTR 1 - 9/10
LOTR 2 - 7/10
LOTR 3 - 8/10
average 5.5
VS
SW 1 - 6/10
SW 2 - 2/10
SW 3 - 4/10
SW 4 - 9/10
SW 5 - 10/10
SW 6 - 8/10
average 6.5
star wars, tbhfam
The true ranking:
FotR > ESB > TTT > SW > RotK > RotJ > AUJ > TDoS >BOTFA > RotS > TPM > AofC
The Hobbit films were bad but they weren't prequel trilogy bad.
>>62904616
>TTT rated higher than RotK
Nah, family.
Once you get over the twist ESB stops being this pillar of cinema that people wax lyrical about. The LOTR trilogy is as close to perfect a fantasy film trilogy is ever going to get.
>>62904628
This, it never got anywhere near monologing-about-sand bad, just standard issue schlock and forced romance
>>62904674
>>62904628
i'd post the legolas webm if i had it. you know the one.
>>62904727
I could post a thousand webms showing how shit the prequel trilogy was.
>>62904727
Yeah, that's just the retarded schlock you'd find in Marvel movies, it's not prequel level bad
>>62904007
best and most fair ratings by far
>>62899963
Jedi is the only movie that could possibly beat out RoTK simply due to how it dragged out the ending way too long. Jedi's major flaw was Han's side story, every other story hits a creative peak.
>>62899963
OT vs OT, LOTR wins for me, and that's all that really matters. I can see people enjoying SW more, but LOTR is just better than SW in terms of quality of movie, there's no question in my mind.
I'll take the prequels over the hobbit though. The prequels were at least fun and memorable even if bad. I watched the first two hobbit movies in theatres and don't remember shit about them. I doubt I'll ever rewatch them, whereas the prequels I will because as bad as they are, they're enjoyable on a certain level. I didn't even watch 5 armies, and I love tolkien shit.
>>62903071
raging faggot!
>>62899963
LOTR
The original trilogy in my opinion is better than the SW OT, but even if we say they are equal. At least the Hobbit has a somewhat coherent plot, unlike the PT.
>>62904801
>simply due to how it dragged out the ending way too long
how are you supposed to make a satisying ending that ties most loose ends in like 5 minutes? the scope of lotr outstrips star wats by a country mile yet you expected it to end like A New Hope where they get their medals and it ends? get the fuck outta here. complaining about rotk's ending is a meme at this point
>>62899963
Star Wars memes
>Sheev
>high ground
>good friend
>point of view
>...
lotr memes
>back on the menu
easy pick
>The Lord of the rings trilogy is a cinematic achievement
>>62899963
The first 2 Star wars films are iconic for so many reasons, and people will hardly remember Lord of the Rings in a decade
>>62899963
>6 flick series
>ever good
yeah I'm gonna pick neither because I'm not from plebbit
You could say both original trilogies are perfect in their own way. SW being full of adventure, mystery and magic, also by being iconic. LotR is the comfiest shit ever but also epic in proportion of story characters.
So imo it depends on the prequels;
Phantom Menace: rapes the lore, literally one enjoyable scene, only a kid could like this
Attack of the Clones: obi wan being cool doesnt justify the atrocious naboo and geonosis scenes, especially the latter
Revenge: pretty to look at, also fucks up the lore big time, only watchable movie because some good sheev moments and pretty imagery
AUJ: based gollum scene, feels like a shitty lotr, so its comfy bit doesnt feel right
dos: based smaug scenes, CGI Is very off at times
Botfa: worst big big budget movie ive ever seen
Still even out imo
>>62904916
>people will hardly remember Lord of the Rings in a decade
Probably because in 10 years it won't be milked to death by Disney Jews who are only interested in Marvel bux and merchandising deals.
>>62899963
Even though the hobbit is complete fucking garbage, lotr still wins. The sw flicks are ok, even the prequels but it's no lotr, lets not kid ourselves.
>>62905001
>lotr
>not a flick
>>62904861
LoTR really does excel in grand fantasy with massive battles and does it well for the most part. I just felt that Jedi had a tighter ending. Return felt like it was trying to setup another sequel. I go back and forth really, but really like Luke and Vader's final duel more than anything in LOTR.
>>62905025
Lord of the Rings is cinema
>>62903071
Let me fix that for you:
The Hobbit - 4/10
The Hobbit 2 - 3/10
The Hobbit 3 - 2/10
LOTR 1 - 9/10
LOTR 2 - 10/10
LOTR 3 - 8/10
VS
SW 1 - 3/10
SW 2 - 2/10
SW 3 - 6/10
SW 4 - 7/10
SW 5 - 8/10
SW 6 - 6/10
>>62905053
>>62904520
you give lucas too much credit
>>62902218
Close, but...
>ROTK > FOTR
>III, II, I > anything in the Middle Earth series
Nope
So:
V > FOTR > ROTK > IV > TT > VI > AUJ > DOS > BOTFA > III > I > II
>>62899963
>had grown up not seeing either
>watch both original trilogies
>lotr has mixed cgi, sometimes its bad sometimes its not, but when it is bad it ruins the scene
>enjoyed the star wars trilogies but 3 was somewhat filler
>LOTR is full of filler scenes
>Lotr >>star wars>>>>> the hobbit >>> prequels
For the fact that lotr is so consistent that fans are unable to reach a conclusion on which film is superior/ inferior. Each film has its own qualities that appeals to different individuals.
Everyone unanimously agrees the power rankings of the original star wars trilogy because the quality in films is transparent, everyone agrees that RotJ is the weakest because it takes a massive hit in quality.
The hobbit films had some great moments that were diluted by all the other shit surrounding it. Smaug was great, bilbo was great, character interaction for the most part was great.
RotK swept the Oscars, that should be evidence enough. LotR is GOAT trilogy. I'd say the first Hobbit movie alone is better than the Star Wars prequels, but DoS and BotFA bring the trilogy down big time. A condensed, 4 hour fan-edited Hobbit film is the best way to go.
>>62902391
>>62902391
LOTR
> Hobbit 1: 5/10
> Hobbit 2: 4/10
> Hobbit 3: 1/10
> Fellowship: 7/10
> Two Towers: 10/10
> Return of the King: 9/10
Star Wars
> Episode 1: 3/10
> Episode 2: 1/10
> Episode 3: 8/10
> Episode 4: 9/10
> Episode 5: 10/10
> Episode 6: 8/10
>>62899963
LOTR has three good ones, SW has two. While none of the Hobbit movies are as entertaining as Ep 3 thanks to based Sheev, none of them are also as dreadful as Ep 2. Therefore LOTR wins.
I will bump this now fám
People who can honestly, unironically say that the original SW trilogy is better than the LOTR trilogy and that the SW prequels are better than the Hobbit trilogy should just honestly, literally kill themselves.
SW may be more iconic, but LOTR are clearly the better movies which will age the best.
SW prequels are shit. Hobbit trilogy is mediocre at the worst, despite all the mouthbreathing autists on this board who keep trying to convince themselves that they're some of the worst crimes ever unleashed upon mankind. They may have many flaws and did not reach expectations, but that doesn't mean they're worse than the atrocities that are the SW prequels.
>>62899963
Does this prove all prequel trilogies are liquid shit?
>>62908242
Stop saying "honestly" and "literally" - it makes you sound like a teenage girl.
>>62904487
>>62904520
This is a complete non-factor. This is like saying Beethoven's symphonies wouldn't exist if some monkey hadn't banged rocks together first. LotR is superior.
>>62908242
Thank you.
LOTR >>>>> Literal Shit >>>> SW 1-3 >>>>>> Hobbit >>>>>>>>> SW 4-6
>>62908242
>SW prequels are better than the Hobbit trilogy
The hobbit is complete garbage though. It's probably on par or worse than the sw prequels.
The Star Wars prequels were shit, but at least they added something to the Star Wars universe.
That's more than I can say for the Hobbit movies.
>>62908690
>The hobbit is complete garbage though
is what dank memester on /tv/ spill all day every day, but it is actually well liked and received. the first two movies are mediocre with some good and some bad scenes that stand out, the third one is obviously kinda trash (and still they nailed the important scenes).
>>62900049
is this actually good
be honest senpai
>>62908708
Prequels damaged the universe by cannibalizing all the ideas (every single bad guy has a red light saber, force is bacteria and so on)
>>62908708
>hey added something to the Star Wars universe
99% of what they added is shit tho
>>62908677
Actually no - it's not literal shit - it's a movie.
>>62908723
>is what dank memester on /tv/ spill all day every day,
No, that's what i say, it's a childish cartoony poorly made pile of crap. It's takes the worst part of the lotr trilogy(legolas-gimli comic relief scenes and legolas "badass" scenes) and turns it into a trilogy. It's tom and jerry tier.
Now that i think about it, i'd say the sw prequels are better.
>>62899963
Lord of the Rings. The original trilogies it still tops Star Wars, and despite how bad the Hobbit movies are they don't sink anywhere as low as the SW prequels.
>>62908690
>It's probably on par or worse than the sw prequels.
People who say this have clearly never seen the SW prequels, let alone when they first came out and all the hype was circulating around it.
Star Wars:
I - 5
II - 4
III - 6
IV - 9
V - 9
VI - 8
Average - 6.8/10
Lord of the Rings
H1 - 5
H2 - 6
H3 - 4
L1 - 10
L2 - 7
L3 - 8
Average - 6.7/10
So it's Star Wars... barely.
>>62899963
The LoTR trilogy might technically be 'greater' than Star Wars, but I have a lot of respect for the original Star Wars trilogy after all the shit Lucas went through to get them made, particularly due to the fact they were 'original' (I'm aware of the many sources he drew on) stories for the screen rather than an adaptation.
The Star Wars prequels may be more incompetently made when it comes to the writing, framing, editing, etc, but the memes more than make up for it. I can watch the prequels with my friends and have a laugh now, whereas the Hobbit movies are a real slog to get through.
>>62909425
Fair ratings.
>>62902391
>LOTR 1 - 10/10
>LOTR 2 - 10/10
>LOTR 3 - 10/10
Calm down, buddy.
>>62908756
Not really. There are plenty of things they added to that universe that weren't shit.
>Clone Troopers and all their vehicles/weapons/etc.
>Planets that are more interesting and alien than any of the planets introduced in the OT
>Double-bladed lightsabers
>Podracers
>A neat origin story for the Emperor
>Battle droids
>A few really cool Jedi like Aayla Secura, Plo Koon, Kit Fisto, etc. Even Mace Windu did some cool stuff.
>A Boba Fett-esque character that actually got to do cool things and have a real fight scene
>>62902391
This
Shills BTFO
>>62899963
LOTR > OT > Prequels > The Hobbit
Star Wars overall.
>starwars fanboys getting BTFO
The Hobbit trilogy beats out the Star Wars prequels simply because of based Lee Pace. Such a queen...
>>62899963
Those fucking hobbit movies were boring as hell. All it was was a bunch of people walking. Three movies of people walking to a fuckin' volcano. Even the fuckin' trees walked in those movies.
