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No wonder Joel was forced to leave the show, his decision making
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No wonder Joel was forced to leave the show, his decision making is fucking awful.
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>>62891086
>forced to leave the show
Is there a story I hadn't heard? I always heard he quit because he didn't want to make MST3k The Movie.
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if they announced mike would come write and old mst3k writers too I would donate
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>>62891591
Joel said that he put out invites for all the old cast to come back for like an episode or two, but he wants the show to not be a reunion.
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>>62892676
That's tough because if it was it would actually make a lot more than it does now.
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Reminder: NONE of the original cast was still on MST3K when the series ended. Only Jim freakin' Mallon and Kevin Murphy lasted all 11 seasons behind the scenes.
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>>62891086
Who is that mysterious shadowy figure?
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>>62893527
Nobody knoooooows but it's Felicia Day
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>>62893497
The behind the scenes stuff is the most important part. Mike was a writer behind the scene for a lot of the early seasons before he became the onscreen lead.

There is no hope for the new show with a bunch of brand new writers trying to capture the feeling of a 20 year old show while also trying to be hip and with it while connecting with today's youthful demographic. It's gonna be pure shit.
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>>62891553
Joel walked in on Mike fucking Joel's wife. Joel was freaking out and standing there with an erection but Mike said he should really just relax.
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>Cinematic Titanic folded after 12 riffs

>Rifftrax is still going strong after 200+ riffs
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did you guys see that now that the kickstarter has made 2mil joel's crying that if they dont get 5.5mil IT MIGHT BE THE END OF MST3K?!!?!?

>the end of MST3K....what's that like?

but yeah, he already tried pulling shit where if they got to X amount within a day people who donated $35 or up would get a surprise additional gift ("perfect time to up your donation" he said) and now he's trying to work the ppl who have already paid him by saying if they dont get to 5.5mil there's going to be no more MST3K after the ~3 eps or whatever.

this is why i hate kickstarter.
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>>62894310
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Do they really need fucking 2 million dollars to make 3 episodes?

It's a fucking silhouette over a cheap movie with a couple of robot puppets they already have made
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>>62895115
Where can I pirate rifftrax?
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>>62893527
furluia dur
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>>62895115
CT tried to push into exclusively live stuff but their stuff just isn't upto snuff compared to rifftrax. They try to act like they are watching the movie for the first time and it feels way too rehearsed.

>>62896078
piratebay duh
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>>62897430
>Darth Bactrianus
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IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE
TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN
SOME GREEDY KIKE NAMED JOEL
WAS BEGGING FOR MORE MONEY
HE HAD ALREADY GOT TWO MILLION BUCKS
FROM A BUNCH OF DUMB KICKSTARTER KEKS
HE DID A GOOD JOB GETTING FREE MONEY
BUT FOR THAT GREEDY KICK NAMED JOEL THAT JUST WAS NOT ENOUGH

HE NEEDS FIVE MILLION DOLLARS
OR MORE, HE WON'T MIND
HE'LL SIT AND CRY AND BEG FOR MORE
AND HE'LL ROB HIS PATRONS BLIND

NOW KEEP IN MIND JOEL CAN'T CONTROL
WHETHER KEKS DONATE OR NOT
SO HE USED NOSTALGIA PANDERING
WITH HE HELP OF THESE ABUSED BOTS

ROBOT ROLL CALL

CAMBOT
GYPSY
TOM SERVO
CROOOOOOOOOW

IF YOU'RE WONDERING HOW HE EATS AND BREATHES
JUST KNOW HE DOES IT WELL
WITH HIS MASSIVE INTAKE OF PETTY CASH
MAKING HIS WALLET SWELL

THANKS TO
MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER
3000
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Can someone give me some essential MST3K or RiffTrax riffs to watch? I just discovered this stuff a few weeks ago.
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>>62897430
>R-rise and shine, Mister Rob-in-son. Rise and... shine. Not that I... wish to imply you have been sleeping on the job. No one is more deserving of a rest, and all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until... well, let's just say your hour has... come again.
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>>62891086
I am pretty excited for Jonah Ray, but everything else about this project still has me un-easy.
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>2 million fucking dollerydoos for 3 episodes

I'm pretty sure the original series had a bit more modest of a budget.
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>>62897907
>I am pretty excited for Jonah Ray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBAZFJnpcV4
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If they don't have the original voice actors, why use the same robots? It can't be hard to make new robots. The old ones were built out of literal garbage.
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>mst3k
>quick witted, pop culture centrics barbs esoteric enough that only "the right people will get it."

>mst3k reboot
>snark 20 somethings sneer at anything not flawlessly pc and shoehorn in whatever hash tag bullshit is trending that week

Yeah, I'm uh...I'm really uh...

Shit.
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>>62898146
This, honestly
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>>62897831
>essential
Note that this is different than best. I've marked episode which you should watch (for callbacks and plot reasons) but that aren't the best with an (E), the rest are the best episodes

>MST3k
The Joel Era
>The Crawling Eye (E)
>Moon Zero Two
>The Sidehackers
>Time of the Apes (The version from season 3, not the KTMA one)
>Fugitive Alien
>Star Force: Fugitive Alien II
>Gamera (If you like this a lot, the rest of the Gamera movies)
>Pod People
>Master Ninja I
>The Castle of Fu Manchu
>Master Ninja II
>Manos: The Hands of Fate
>The Magic Sword
>Operation Double 007
>Mitchell

The Mike Era
>The Brain That Wouldn't Die
>Radar Secret Service
>Escape 2000
>Laserblast
>Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie (This Island Earth)
>Revenge of the Creature (E)
>The Thing That Couldn't Die (E)
>Parts: The Clonus Horror
>The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies
>Jack Frost
>Riding with Death
>Agent for H.A.R.M.
>Prince of Space
>Devil Doll
>Space Mutiny
>Time Chasers
>Overdrawn at the Memory Bank
(Wow, Season 8 was fucking great)
>The Projected Man
>The Pumaman
>Werewolf
>The Deadly Bees
>Hobgoblins
>The Final Sacrifice
>The Screaming Skull
>Quest of the Delta Knights
>Soultaker
>Merlin's Shop of Mystical Wonders
>Final Justice
>Diabolik

>RiffTrax
Star Wars Episodes 1 - 3 (4 - 6 are okay)
X-Men 1 - 3
Harry Potter 1 - 7 (They're currently writing 8)
Terminator 3 & 4
Starship Troopers
The Avengers
The Matrix 1 - 3
The Bourne Identity
The Dark Knight
Heroes episodes 1 & 2 (Yeah, the TV show, the original one, not Reborn)
LoTR trilogy
The Room
Spiderman 1 - 3
All the Star Trek films they did (2, 5, 6, 7 and 2009)
Twilight 1 - 3 (I think, they aren't numbered)
Transformers 1 & 2
Ocean's Eleven (With Richard Cheese)
Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factor (With Neil Patrick Harris)
Jurassic Park (With Weird Al Yankovich)

I haven't seen all the RiffTrax so my list isn't exhaustive, just my favourites.
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>>62898233
damn thanks m8
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>>62897991
>why use the same robots?
because they're the only cast members who didn't outright refuse to be involved with this.
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>>62898233
Add Red Dawn with Joel McHale, probably the funniest rifftrax they've ever made, I've yet to find one that tops it.

And yeah, Mike on Sci Fi was probably the best three years on the show. They really did go out on top.
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>>62898233

You gotta watch the Rifftrax of McBain if you haven't. It's Final Sacrifice, Werewolf, Space Mutiny tier in how funny it is.
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>>62898419
>They really did go out on top.

This is why these new episodes piss me off. The finale was perfect. I wouldn't mind so much if that hack fuck Hodgson wasn't using the same bots but he is. Now I guess they didn't get to live happily ever after with Mike watching bad movies on Earth.
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>>62895825

This. Yahoo did a great job with Other Space (which Joel was in) and I doubt that whole thing cost 3 mil.
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>>62898424
>>62898419
Thanks guys, I'll check those out.
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>>62897430
Emily blunt?
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>>62898486
OH FUCK HERE WE GO
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sorry joel i really like your mst3k episodes but rifftrax is presently superior
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>>62894310
>>62894310
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>>62898486
Milana is my gf irl. She just doesn't know it yet.
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>>62898146

I just know that they're gonna try to hard to pander to the meme-loving, internety, "such a nerd XD" type crowd who watch the big bang theory and marvel movies and listen to the nerdist and it makes me sad

Especially if the Felicia Day rumors are true
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>>62898486
>>62898542
>Milana worked on The Legend of Neil with Felicia Day for her first job in Hollywood
>Joel worked with Milana on Other Space
>Joel casts Felicia as the new Mad
>Felicia and Joel decide to cast Milana
>She plays a fully nude sexbot who gets fucked by a different fan every episode for half an hour of the episode's runtime

There you go, I just saved MST3K.
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>>62898653
lol

More realistically there's no specific reason that Milana couldn't play the dimwitted assistant who Felicia endlessly bullies, is there?

In the tradition of TV's Frank and Brain Guy and Other Guy
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>>62898653

If the perk is I get to be one of the fans I'll seriously donate $500k right now.
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>>62898653
>I just saved MST3K
I think you need new bots to do that. Also the new mad should be cambot, who went insane after being left to slowly burn in the wreckage of the SOL. LIke an Evil Magic Voice, if you will.
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>>62898146
>sneer
This is my biggest fear for it. The original run never showed real contempt for the films, just exasperation at how bad and boring they could be. I just know the new one will be full of snarky dismissals and false sense of superiority for acknowledging that a bad movie is bad
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>>62899006
>The original run never showed real contempt for the films
What was that space movie where they cut in about 20 minutes of footage from another space movie where the astronauts all looked completely different? I remember them getting really aggravated in that scene but I can't recall what episode it was (not Stranded in Space which was the last one I checked)
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Timmy has a knife and gives you 5 seconds to name any MST3k movie and you're going to sit and watch it all with no riffing.

What do you pick?
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>>62899172
Final Sacrifice is an inherently funny movie without the riffs
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>>62894310
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Maybe they need 2 million because they plan on using movies that aren't public domain.

Just a thought.
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>>62899172
Jack Frost. It's such a charming little film which reminds me of the old communist films that came out of my country when I was a kid. Made by the BBC.

Also Natalya Sedykh is the cutest girl who ever lived.
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>>62899172
Godzilla vs. Megalon, nigga
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>>62899172
HOBGOBLINS
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>>62897743
>BUT FOR THAT GREEDY KICK NAMED JOEL THAT JUST WAS NOT ENOUGH
This doesn't really go with the song, everything else is pretty solid.
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>>62899321
this. Godzilla vs megalon is damn comfy
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>>62899172

Final Sacrifice, Werewolf, or Space Mutiny. I own all three unriffed on DVD so it would be easy to do too.
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>>62899172
Prince of Space

I like hard mode.
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>>62899369
That sounds pretty painful anon. I don't know that I could make it through the rake fighting scene, or the phone sex line scenes.
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>>62899172
Call me crazy, but I find both Fugitive Alien episodes fascinating in a 1970s Japanese culture kind of way.
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>>62899542
Please, call me "The Artist".
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>>62899542
>>62899603
I fucking love those jokes

>I'm in space already, damn!
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>>62898486
This show was actually pretty great.

>mfw we will never get a season 2 because of Fembusters
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>>62896078

Please donate after if you have any money, even $5 goes a long way.
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>>62899006
The two things that generated content for MST3k are very tragically dead.

I know "The Room" is an overused example now, but The Room itself is 12 years old, and isn't it basically the last example of a weird, crazy, inept director pouring out all of his earnest heart and soul to make a bizarre movie? It's just not done anymore, and in the 60's and 70's and '80s there were a LOT of movies like this. I don't know what happened to them.

And of course, the shorts are dead. Those wonderfully campy public domain public service "educational" features. Where did they come from in the first place? Where did they go? It is a mystery.
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>>62898233
>"Manos"
>Time Chasers
>Brain that wouldn't die

GOAT Tier
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>>62899669
they go to youtube now , theres a shit load of them
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>>62899669
There are so many undiscovered VHS-era cheesy movies out there. RLM has barely scratched the surface and they've done something like 30 Best of the Worsts by this point.
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>>62899770
If you mean the young, inept and deranged filmmakers, then yes, a lot of them do go to YouTube. It's just not the same. Green screens and lapel mics and Adobe After Effects and 4k smartphone cameras ruined everything. As late as the 90s, Kevin Smith could talk about what a fun and unique form of hell editing your own 16mm film stock was, and it's an effect that can't really be replicated.

And the bizarre public service videos can't exist anymore because that absolute form of kitschy sincerity has been dead... since about 1968?
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>>62899172
Devil Doll.

It actually stands on its own as an atmospheric movie. It's one of the few they've done I actually consider "good."

That or Soul Taker (to see if she ever turns around).
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>>62899872

I've seen the uncensored version, she doesn't.
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>>62899853
In all fairness, psas still exist, they're just usually like 5 to 10 minutes and say shit like "don't do drugs or let someone molest you".

Even still, there's hundreds of shorts going back to the 1930s
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>>62899172
I've grown to enjoy Manos in a bizzare way.
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>Both hosts could be referred to by 4 letter names
>Jonah
This triggers my autisim
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>>62900107
Just call him Joan
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>>62900107
Just call him 'Cunt' then.
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>>62900107
plenty of choice 4 letter words to pick from in the english language
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>>62899964
DROPPED
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>>62899172
OK Connery
That Italian spy film from the last Mike episode
Those Russian fantasy films filmed in sovietvision
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>>62899853
Digital video really killed the no budget film. Not just because it looked like shit in the early 2000s, but the bar to make a film dropped to nothing. Before you needed access to filmmaking equipment and money for film stock, and I think that set a modicum of talent/connections necessary to make a movie. It was a low bar but it was there. Then cheap DV came out and anyone could buy a camera and make a film, quality bombed out to lower depths than before in addition to DV looking nothing like film at the time. I think these kinds of films just died from that
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>>62900429
>digital film dead
>traditional animation dead
>antennae tv dead
>music videos dead

Why couldn't I have just died in the womb, before knowing this hell?
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>>62898653
You do know that everyone on old MST3K (especially Joel) was a jesusfag, right? You think they're gonna let that happen on a good ol' Christian puppet show?
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>>62900503
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I'm sure Josh Weinstein was a christfag, you homo
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>>62900503
They will if they want my donation and seed to be spilled in Milana's womb. Also Felicia will tongue my balls and Milana's vagine as my seed falls from it. So sayeth the Lord.
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>>62900503
Fuck off.
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>>62900533
>there's another Josh Weinstein in the Writers' Guild (the Simpsons guy) so he can't use his real name
>goes by J. Elvis Weinstein so his initials can be J.E.W.
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>>62898472
hopefully they'll just be the extra robots that were lying around after the sol crashed. tom had a bunch of clones.

or the new forrester makes them since its part of the experiment. or the new guy finds schematics.


or it could all just be a reboot.
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>>62898556
I'm the guy she's cheating on you with. you just don't know it yet.
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>>62898882
cambot was saved though I think. thats how we see them watching tv.
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JUST
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>>62900673
>>62898472
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So, do you guys think the Kickstarter is gonna be able to make the extra three million for it's real goal? There's 21 days left and it's still chugging along.
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>>62900821
It'll skyrocket after the FD announcement is finalized, I think they're holding out for the Thanksgiving marathon for maximum impact
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>>62900781
>Grandchild of Pearl Forester

Isn't Felicia Day almost 40?
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>>62900781
then it'll be interesting to see how the bots come back.
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>>62899172
Delta Knights

It's goofy enough on its own and has a coherent, if silly, plot structure.
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>>62900781
>the offspring of Dr. Clayton Forrester and the grandchild of Pearl Forrester

Gross, incest
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>>62899172
Time Chasers. Since it's really charmingly low-budget. You get the feeling that these guys really did make the best movie they could make with their means.
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>>62899172
I don't care.
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>>62900781

No Joel that certainly doesn't put me at ease you monstrous faggot.
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I miss Mike and friends. I guess I'll keep watching Rifftrax and ignore Joel's next abortion.
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>>62899172
The Girl in Lover's Lane. It's more trashy than bad and even though I love the riffing on it I'm always genuinely invested in the movie.
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>>62900876
Mary Jo Pehl is younger than Trace Beaulieu but played his mother.
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>>62900972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atM9ZQK7OSo
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>>62900951
Not like that, anon.
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>>62897743
Mike please go.
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I was so happy they were going to make new MST3K

Then it was announced Jonah Ray was going to be the host. Then I was less excited. The guy isnt that funny. He thinks he is, but hes not. The only reason hes "famous" is because of Hardwick cock.

I dont even want to talk about the rumors of Felicia Day being the new Mad.
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>>62901141
Pretty sure Mike makes more Rifftrax bux than Joel will make "MST3K" bux even if the thing gets fully funded. Mike's selling out shows around the world and getting paid to watch bad movies and joke about them while Joel is begging for money to resurrect the corpse of MST3K because he has nothing else. Joel's a hack and this is all the more proof that Mike, Kevin, Jim etc. were the brains behind MST3K and Joel was just there.
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