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>it's an every single person Buffy knows is an ungrateful petty cunt episode
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Buffy's an ungrateful petty cunt herself so that didn't bother me too much
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>Buffy Studies exist
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>it's a willow tears buffy out of a paradise dimension episode
did buffy ever specifically call willow out on this?
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>Its a Spike rapes Buffy episode
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>>62819081
>it's a JUST FUCK UP HALF MY SEASON 4 SENPAI episode
>>62819104
Yeah I mean who deserves leniency after saving the world multiple times over? Ayyyyy lmao
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>>62819104
Buffy literally did nothing wrong. Ever.
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>>62819130
What the fuck is wrong with this faggot? What a shitstain.
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>>62819176
Her brain was literally infected by devils
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>>62819130
>"It's your show, Buff."
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>>62819289
You seem irrationally angry about the life choices and consequences of a Buffy cast member. Do you wanna talk about it? What's really bothering you?
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>It's a Dawn is whining again episode
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>it's a faith episode
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>>62819405
The guy is a maniac. If you don't think he's going to end up getting someone killed you're crazy. Hard to rewatch the show knowing he's such a fuck up.
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>>62819149
Nah, Buffy spills the beans in the musical episode. Up until that point Buffy acts like a cunt around Willow. A character might have made an off hand remark about it, can't remember.
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>it's a Tara The Fridge episode
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>>62819149
Well in the musical episode she calls all her friends out on it.

>Still, my friends
>Don't know why I ignore
>The million things or more
>I should be dancing for

>All the joy
>Life sends
>Family
>And friends
>All the twists
>And bends
>Knowing that
>It ends
>Well, that
>Depends

>On if they let you go
>On if they know enough to know
>That when you bow
>You leave the crowd

>There was no pain
>No fear, no doubt
>Till they pulled me out
>Of heaven
>So that's my refrain
>I live in hell
>'cause I've been expelled
>From heaven
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>>62819642
Do you have an actual reason for believing that or are you just jumping to the worst conclusion possible?
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>>62819642
It's even weirder to watch the show knowing Ryan Reynolds auditioned for the role of xander but they gave it to Nicholas Brendon because he had a stutter which they felt made him more like the character. He never stuttered in the show though.
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>>62819155
why did people hate this? he was love sick and they shared something in the past that he was trying to bring back.
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>>62819747
>He never stuttered in the show though.
He probably did lots of times and it was edited out.
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Does Buffy hold up? I haven't seen it or Angel since their original runs and I don't remember that much.
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>>62819747
Reynolds would have worked in that role.
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>>62819732
Anon, he's totally in control. Your unwavering faith in him is really inspiring stuff. He's going to be A-OK.
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>>62819793
still goat television m8
early seasons' cgi is looking silly but who gives a shit
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>>62819793
only the world on her shoulders :(
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>>62819826
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>>62819515
Its a GET OUT episode
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>>62819619
aw yiss
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>>62819787
I wouldn't doubt it. Just thought it was odd he got the role because of his stutter but never added it to Xander's character.

>>62819800
I agree, but would he still have the same career of today.
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>it's a giles the ripper episode
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>>62819809
There's a bit of a grey area between getting someone killed and being perfectly okay you dumbass.
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>it's a everyone betrays Buffy except Spike episode
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>>62819767
It was necessary for his character arc. Most people like Spike and didn't like seeing him as a true bad guy.
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>it's a willow suddenly turns lesbian episode
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>>62819933
best episodes
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>>62819767
>>62819155

Lets be honest here, Buffy liked rough sex. Spike was just doing what came naturally to their relationship.

Also the writers were smoking crack when thy wrote that episode.

>Lets have Buffy get injured in a random scene before Spike shows up so Buffy can act out of character and act all helpess when normally she beats the shit out of Spike.

>pro tip, Marti Noxon, show runner of the show that season based the scene on a experience in her 20's when she tried to force herself on her boyfriend.
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>it's a super big bad episode fight but let's not get Angel and his pals to help episode

fuck that

Flash did that so cool when he had Oliver come over and beat Reverse Flash's ass
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>>62819821

cheers bruv
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>it's a the body episode
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Reminder that Buffy was in a mental institution imagining she was a superhero the whole time
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>>62819894
>it's a demon says he will never talk but when other people look away Giles The Ripper makes him talk in an instant episode

good shit
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>>62819968

I know that Angel and the gang were in Pylea when the Glory fight happened but in other parts they could have helped!!
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>>62819947
but vamp willow was a dyke, that might have been the only foreshadowing i can't remember.
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>>62819968
Most of the time the super big bad confrontation had some sense of urgency to it, generally because someone was kidnapped or the end of the world was literally about to happen.

And when that wasn't the case like in the finale, Angel did show up.
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>>62819968
>>62819994
Didn't they rationalize this on Angel with that destiny bullshit?
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>>62820004
>dyke
she was clearly bisexual
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>>62819932
What the fuck are you even going on about? The dude is an crazy, out of control, abusive drug addict. You can be naive all you want about it. Just stop crying at me.
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>>62819968
>implying they weren't preoccupied most of the time
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>>62820004
>>62819947
She didn't really turn lesbo out of nowhere. If it wasn't for her little crush on Xander in the early seasons people probably would have assumed her to be gay, with all those homoerotic magic practices.
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>it's a Giles gets turned into a fyarl demon episode
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>it's a tara gets shot in the fucking head episode
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>>62820022
>What the fuck is wrong with this faggot? What a shitstain
>better jump to the most conclusions imaginable
>stop crying
K
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>>62819947
>>62820051
Where is the proof she was lesbian?
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>>62820075

but she got shot in the chest senpai
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>>62820099
She banged chicks? At the very least she was bi.
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>>62820051
There was a bit of foreshadowing but the way she turned full lesbian who had no longer any sexual interest in men was just dumb as fuck bullshit.
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>>62820099
Have you ever met a girl who expressed interest in hippie wiccan shit IRL who wasn't a powerdyke?
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>>62819515
>it's a Dawn shaking her sweet ass episode
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>>62820099

>Hello, gay now

Back then Buffy was seen as progressive, in today's otherkin world, Willow would've identified as a non-binary pansexual something-other.

Its no wonder that they turned against Whedon.
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>>62819718
The magic of lesbianism!
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>>62820123
Why? It's not like she turned full lesbo from one day to the next. She met Tara and fell in love with her not becaue of her gender, but because of her personality. Then she was together with her for like 3 years or so and after that she didn't fancy men anymore. I don't see the problem.
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>it's an ALL of this shit is actually in her head episode
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>>62820096
Welcome to life, faggot. Get the fuck over it. Sorry for talking shit on your boyfriend. But he's going to get someone killed if he doesn't seek some real help.
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>it's a buffybot episode
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>>62819767
He was also soulless which led to him seeking redemption and fighting for his soul.

I thought it was sweet, and a complete arc for his character. He was as good as a soulless vampire could be, by human standards what he did was unforgivable...but he's not human.
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>>62820154
It's just weird that they had her specifically say something like "Not into women, just one woman" while at the same time having her actually be full on into women to the extent that not even a love spell could make her consider the dick again.
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>>62820123
There was a thing with her and Xander when they lost their memories but then she ended up being more attracted to Tara by the end of it.
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>>62820207
>while at the same time having her actually be full on into women to the extent that not even a love spell could make her consider the dick again.
It wasn't really at the same time I think.
Also I don't recall this love spell business. Wasn't the only love spell the one Xander used super early in the show?
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>>62820154
Are you a woman? Because you're dumb enough to fit the role. Human sexuality doesn't change like that. It's not a choice or a switch.
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>>62820235
I'm talking about the guy with the jacket that made women love him. It made Buffy try to kill for him, and Dawn try to kill herself for him, but when it hit Willow she went looking for a way to turn him into a woman.

Also, the line where she says "not women, woman, singular", is in S7, the last season of the show.
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>>62820276
>It's not a choice or a switch.
And I described neither?
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>>62819894
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>>62820235

Anon is referring to this episode

>>62820138

When the 26 year old high school student's magic jacket causes Willow to fall in love with him and attempt a spell to turn him into a woman.
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>it's a Xander gets to be the hero of his own story episode
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>>62820297
Also further mucking the issue is that Willow says that line to a woman she is on a date with after Tara's death.

So I guess you could be right in that she was referring to when she first met Tara with that line, and not how she feels now, but it's still a weird thing to emphasis there.
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>>62820313
>3 years with someone
>oh I don't like guys at all anymore

a switch
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>it's an Angel was actually the better show all along episode
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>>62820138
fuck I need to webm this shit
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>>62820369
When something takes 3 years, "switch" doesn't describe it.
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>>62819985
>http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Asylum_Buffy
>Fan theories exploring the implications of the episode and his statement are referred to as the Normal Again alternative, exploring the possibilty that Buffy being the Slayer is simply a 7 year long delusion beginning when she hallucinates first meeting Merrick and ending with the final scene of Chosen which actually represents her regaining her sanity once more.
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>It's a Randy Giles episode
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>Its a Cordelia has one fine ass body episode
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>>62820396
Maybe in Season 5. Or the last few episodes of S2.

Way too much of Angel was soap opera drama, which should have been expected since Angel himself was always the drama queen, and took that with him to his own show.
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>>62820423
best girl

too bad her storyline got raped
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>>62820408
It's a switch, dumbass. That doesn't happen in reality.
I'd understand if she used a spell on herself or something to actually snuff out that part of herself.
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>>62820402
If you do, get one of her hip swaying in the musical episode, and the one from I think "lies my parents told me" while you're at it.
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>>62820422
Why was he wearing that ridiculous suit?
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>>62820448

Buffy Season 4 > Angel Season 1
Buffy Season 5> Angel Season 2
Angel Season 3 > Buffy Season 6
Angel Season 4> Buffy Season 7

But the peak of Buffy (Buffy seasons 2, 3, 5) are better than the peak of Angel (seasons 2,3,5) Angel season 4 would be the GOAT season if not for Cordelia.
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>>62820448
Buffy was more fun but Angel was thematically much stronger and mature than Buffy ever was.
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>>62820539
>GOAT season if not for Cordelia
It was nice seeing chubby cordelia, i just to beat off to it quite a bit
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>>62820533
why is she so cute fim-senpaitachi?
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>>62820491
It's not a fucking switch. You know how you get an instant, drastic change from dark to light when you use a light switch? Does that sound like fitting metaphor for a process that is slow, gradual and takes several fucking years?
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>>62820539
You shut your whore mouth.
Peak Angel was miles better than Buffy.
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>>62820533
SMG can not act laughing well.
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>>62819767
>>62819767
ironic don't you think?
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>>62820573
There's still been no credible evidence presented that Willow was ever a lesbian.
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>>62820161
You're the only one crying like a bitch here. :^)
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>>62820610
how about eating her gf out on national tv?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m496Fp90vps
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>>62820573
It's a switch. You don't fucking change your sexuality like that. One second, 1 week, 3 years. How fucking retarded are you? Are you some genderqueer faggot tumblrkin or something? Seriously.

Realistically she would still be a bisexual, but with a preference for women. Not "ewww ewww dicks, I only want to munch on carpet now!" if she saw a naked attractive guy.
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>>62820579

I agree that Angel S5 is probably the best. But as a whole Buffy's three best seasons are better than Angel's.
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Every single actress on this show posed in FHM or Maxim magazine when this show was on. Much faps were had.
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>>62820343
>be at house party in college
>the conversation is actually about buffy
>mention xander is my favorite character
So the one girl with aposematism hair looks at me and goes, "Oh sure, the relatable white male character."

I'm like bitch, Xander is the heart of the team and gave a fucking eye for the cause.

So many of the people that like buffy for it's girl/lesbian power hate on xander just for being the straight white guy.
It's because they're all Willow, rejected by the first guy so they go dyke.
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>>62820669
>Realistically she would still be a bisexual, but with a preference for women. Not "ewww ewww dicks, I only want to munch on carpet now!" if she saw a naked attractive guy.

Why?
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>>62820689
If anything, Xander was the biggest loser in the group. That's what makes The Zeppo so great.
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>>62820728
Xander is the only one with a proper life as the show goes on.
Has an actual career, his own place, was about to be married. He had it all.
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>>62820711
You're just trolling by now, you dense fuck.

>hurrr people can choose their own sexuality

Just fuck off, moron.
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>>62819176
>tried to kill faith while faith was busy handing herself over to the police
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>>62819933
>>62819953
>its a spike rapes buffy episode
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>>62820765
Nowhere did I imply anything close to that.
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>>62820657
That's one take-away, but it's really only implied and also favoring girls in one instance doesn't make you a lesbian.
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Buffy could be the worst character on her own show sometimes.
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>>62820791
we already did that
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>>62820797
BigBeast! Never thought you'd respond to one of my threads <3

You're totally welcome here, please post away :3
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>>62820794
It's all you have been saying. Now fuck off.
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>>62819943
>Most people like Spike and didn't like seeing him as a true bad guy.
because guys wanna be him and girls wanna get with him
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>>62820826
Lol, I love buffy. I will post in every buffy thread if I see it.
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>>62820828
How about you give me one actual quote from my posts that makes you think that, not just pulling stuff out of your ass like here >>62820765
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>>62820833
>>62819943
>gets his soul back
>falls for a shitty texan
why would anyone want to be him
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>>62820539
I think Angel had both of the extremes but Buffy was better for longer but I'm glad someone else hates season 4 for Cordelia and not just because of Connor. I liked Connor and Jasmine alright but everything with Cordelia was as bad as any soap opera ever was. Gotta hate the writers a bit for making it so bad too.
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>>62820845
yay we have a real 4chan celebrity in a buffy thread! tripfags are awsum xD
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>>62820754
It's true and like a lot of people he didn't think he could do it, but it was inside him all along.
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>It's a Joss ran out of ideas for villains so let's just use le nerdy misogynist stereotype to serve as the antagonists against the strong wimminz
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>>62820861
Probably just a /tv/ celebrity. They might know me on /v/ and /vg/ tho.
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>>62820833
It was good to see him struggle to be good so it was more satisfying to see his redemption arc
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>>62820893
>he disliked the trio

cmon man
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>>62820893
More like the 1, the other two kids were alright just misguided and following 1 asshole.

And for many nerd groups that's how it usually goes, 1 slightly confident nerd who is a huge asshole
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>>62820851
Stop the baiting, shithead. No more replies 4 u, big guy.
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>>62820903
wow tell us more about yourself
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>>62820728
Exactly. He's not good at school. His home life sucked. He's vain, awkward, basically useless against demons. His relationship skills are all but fucked, granted that probably has to do with his parents.

However he constantly talks shit to evil Angel in season 2 when he could get murdered in a second. The episode you already mentioned. He knows he's useless, and he still clocks in on the demon hunting business everyday.

Xander is basically the american dream incarnate, just work really hard and despite your circumstance you'll make it eventually. It's a nice story.
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>>62820893
I think if the internet has proven anything over the past few years, it's that that isn't just a stereotype.
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>>62820970
Lol, no let's just talk Buffy.
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>it's a cleveland buffy episode
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>>62820539
>putting Angel S3 above Buffy Season 6

Whole lotta nope. Buffy Season 6 might just be tied for best season of Buffy

>Buffy S2 and S5 being the peak
I disagree there as well. Especially on S5. Too much focus on Dawn (before she became bearable), and Glory (the worst big bad).
S2 I can see, but I think it still had too much drama with Angel to be the peak.

My peak Buffy would be S3, S4, and S6. Now, I know I'll get shit for putting S4 at the top. Yes the initiative was dumb, and yes the season got off to a bad start with the first couple of college episodes, but I think all the great episodes following that combined, along with the great finale, make up for that. I won't fight anyone too hard for disagreeing with me there though.
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>>62820893
Season 6 is still my favorite season despite those guys. Dark Willow was the shit.
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>>62820539
Season 4 is the worst season, I'm sorry.
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>its a joss gets literally everyone on the show fired because he was "trying to be a nice guy" episode
happy 100th episode everyone, you're fired!
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I'm watching some classic season 2
Spike, Dru, Angelus
Great time right?

>we need to stall for three episodes before the two part finale
>hospital episode
>ghost lovers murder suicide episode
>swim team monster episode
this is true suffering
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>>62820917
My problem is that they take 3 really unknown characters who were barely seen (except Jonathan) then make them le nerdy stereotype and give Warren a shit reason for going after Buffy. The only he hates her is because she is a strong wimmiz
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>>62821181
>ghost lovers murder suicide episode

i liked that ep ( ._.)
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>>62821181
>he doesnt like the hospital episode
>he doesnt like the swim team monster episode
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>>62820893
>that Bond argument

Andrew was totally right, Timothy Dalton was the best
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>>62821181
Welcome to the days when seasons were 20-25 episodes. But thanks for a need for fillers you do get very creative episodes like Hush.
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>>62821202
>implying people like the undodgable rodge didn't exist
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>>62821203
that was shit
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>>62821037
Same. That's why the focus of that season should have just been the transformation of Willow into Dark Willow. The whole magic/drug abuse shit was stupid. They should have taken the drug message shit out and focused on just Willow abusing her powers.
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>It's a some monster is locked up underground for eternity at the end of the episode episode

What ep was this? Was it Angel or Buffy? I havnt seen these shows since they aired but that one stuck with me because it seemed very cruel and effective for that evil monster they couldnt kill
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>>62821226
>Welcome to the days when seasons were 20-25 episodes

They still are
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>>62821277

I remember that ep, it's in Angel S5 when they made the serial killer guy who was haunting the building corporeal
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>>62821226
there is literally nothing wrong with having 20+ episodes per season

when it's less than 10 episodes then it's a fucking problem (fuck you BBC and I'm not talking about nigger dicks)
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>>62821315
the voice actor of Kain, Simon Templeman

... what the fuck has happened to him? what an embarrassing haircut and color
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>>62821230
>implying that Joss didn't do this to appease his loyal fanbase who would never turn against him
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>>62821315

i cant find it. i just kinda wanna watch a video of that scene to see how accurate my memory reflects it.

from memory they have him standing upright in a tomb of sorts thats barely bigger than his body and the camera pans backwards for a while then fade to black
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>>62821372
>implying it wasn't meant to contrast Buffy always whipping the shit out of monsters and coming out ahead by just having some nerd with a gun kill a main cast member
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>>62821420

It's Angel Season 5 episode 4 ''Hell Bound''
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>>62821002
Not posting here anymore as of right now because of recaptcha, but in my final post I wanted to thank BigBeast for contributing awesome messages to 4chan's /tv/.
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>>62821026

S6 - Magic/drug abuse heavy handed parallel and the angst itself got tiring. How is Angle drama a problem but not that? It has stand out episodes, but S2 and S5 have more.

S4 - Come on, son. How is Glory worse than Adam? S5 and 2 have a better finale despite 4's being great.
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>>62821449
ty
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It was pretty weird to get into the band that did the theme song before getting into buffy, then have them show up at the bronze.

any nerf herder fans?
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>>62821434
>Not realizing that could have been done without hurr durr he hates her because she's a strong wimmiz subplot
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>>62821595
Not exactly a fan but I'd heard a few tracks before Buffy.
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>It's a Hilary Clinton guest stars in Angel episode
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>>62821523
Dark Willow is cooler than anything Angel. Maybe even anything Angelus. Her descent into darkness was easily more interesting than his curse.

And I liked Adam. He's no Mayor, but he separated himself from the more annoying initiative plots (he was even the one who ended the initiative, so we can thank him for that) and had his own kinda cool things going on. Like when we found out he was immune to reality changes during the Jonathan episode. And how they fight and beat him was awesome.

The finale of S5 might have been good, but I was too over that plot by then to care as much about Buffy's second death as I might have otherwise.
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>>62821597
Th show was literally about female empowerment dude.
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>It's an Angel gives everyone their last day alive off work, and Spike uses it to read his century old poetry at an open mic episode

Best character, best arc, best episode of either series.
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>>62821677
it's time to stop posting, friendo
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>>62821597
And why is that a problem for you? You sound insecure.
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>>62821710
>not Wes
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>it's a the high school allows a student to teach a class for several weeks episode
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>>62821677
To expand on my S5 comment, it's kind of like the problem Season 7 had. Season 7 jumped into the dark main plot right away and left no room for having any good, fun episodes. Season 5 felt like it had a similar problem in the later half (not nearly as much as S7 did of course).
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>>62821741
Wes was great, especially post-getting his throat cut, but Spike was just more fun.

I always liked his relationship with Joyce as well. Him going to lay flowers for her is one of my favorite moments of the series.
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So what he just such an asshole because he was a failed science fiction writer?
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>>62821828
>"Congratulations to the class of 1999, you all proved more or less adequate"

I loved that fucker.
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>>62821828
based quark
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>It's a Cordelia is in a 50 shades of grey rip off and is fucking hot and I def. jacked off to that footage once or twice
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>>62821788

>Complains about a lack of good, fun episodes
>S6 is his favorite

Wut? Your comment also makes no sense if you actually remember the episodes in the latter half of S5.
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>its an angel has to stop the Liaison from killing Bones episode
literally my favorite
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>>62821866
>based snyder
>based quark
Is there anything Armin Shimerman can't do?
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>>62821885
you forgot the word episode, and yes that was good
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>It's a WOOH SUMMERS YOU DRIVE LIKE A SPAZ episode
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>>62821181
Spike, Dru, Angelus and Darla flashbacks in Angel are GOAT. Wait until you get to them.
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>>62820533
I've been watching 30 Rock and her face looks EXACTLY like Kenneth's when she laughs.
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>>62821902
>and Andrew Ryan, one of the antagonists of BioShock. He played Dr. Potter in the 2011 movie adaptation of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged.
i wonder if he's actually a randroid
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>>62821915
Every time
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>>62821828
>devote your life to scifi
>find out that scifi is still made-up, but fantasy is actually real
I'd have a stale donut stuck up my ass too.
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>>62821885
>It's a Cordelia is on her second magical pregnancy and goddamn girl you need to stop fucking demons episode
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>>62821683
Don't have a problem with female empowerment, I have a problem with shitty plot elements that not only don't make sense but aren't done in a very good way.

>>62821737

>Criticize hamfisted motive for protagonist
>State that the plot for this season could have been better done then just le misogynistic nerd hates strong wimmiz
>Must obviously be insecure, because I think the villain and his reasons were stupid.

pic related
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>>62821997
Please tell us what you would have done for season six then
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>>62821986
i do like that they brought that up though
"well the last time she got pregnant, she came to term in a day... so this isn't all that strange"
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>>62821953
>I wanted waffles
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>>62820669
>Implying she wasn't bisexual
She didn't 'switch' she was just faithful to Tara.
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>>62821997
Most of the villains had shitty reasoning though.

The Master
>POWER

Angel
>PSYCHO FUNTIME REVENGE

The Mayor
>POWER

Adam
>who gives a fucking shit what his motivation was

The First
>POWER

Glory and Dark Willow are the only ones with decent motivations. Saying that Warren just hates women is about par the course, the reason he stands out as shit is because he didn't have the charisma that the other big bads had.
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>Fair? You asked for a soul. I didn't. It almost killed me. I spend a hundred years tryin' to come to terms with infinite remorse. You spent three weeks moaning in a basement, and then you were fine. What's fair about that?
Based Spike, superior to Angel in every way.
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>>62820893
>le nerdy misogynist stereotype
wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
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>>62821285
Yeah but most shows worth a damn all go on AMC or HBO with 12 ep seasons now.

A show like Buffy would end up a 12-16 ep season show and filler episodes like Hush or A New Man wouldn't happen.
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>season 4
>riley
>government knows about the hellmouth/demons
>adam
the only redeeming factor is spike's chip but where it comes from is just so fucking stupid
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>>62822137
Restless is one of the best season finales though.
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>>62822067
But she wasn't bisexual. Not by the end anyway. The show went out of it's way to proof she was 100% anti-penis.
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>>62822153
Not worth the riley and buffy can't stop having sex episode though
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Alright guys, are the Buffy soundtracks the comfiest soundtracks of all time?
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>It's a I was sort of enjoying the comics until they went pants on head retarded episode

The Angel continuation was decent, but I stopped Buffy S8 when they got to Tibet and shit got stupid.
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>>62822164
She was still hung up on Tara by the end of the series.
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>>62822117

Cable/Premium channels like AMC and HBO have always had 12-16 episode seasons.

Buffy was on network tv, where pretty much all shows get 22-24 episode seasons, and always have done.
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>>62822092
the master
>destroy and harvest humanity and let demons loose

angelus
>chaos and torture and the death of humanity

the mayor
>rule the world as a pure demon

adam
>did he even have a motivation?

glory
>demonic god just wanted her key, fuck everything else tbph

dark willow
>my fridge died raaaaagh kill everything

the first
>EVILNESSSSSS
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>>62822207
but that shouldn't make her not wanting to lookat erect dicks though, it's not liek she would act on that dick lust that should still be there but isn't because she "magically" became total lesbo
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>>62822030
see
>>62821275
and to add on my point, instead of the magic/drug addiction do a absolute power corrupts message this way
>Focuses on internal struggle of characters
>Still keeps strong wimmiz message of having Buffy reacting to her resurrection and an insanely powerful Willow slowly becoming evil/corrupted.
>Keeps consistent plot of character drama oriented season.

Face it Joss fucked up this season by pandering to his feminazi fanbase.
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>>62822137
>>62822153
Restless, the episode before Restless, Hush. All the episodes with great Spike moments, like the Thanksgiving episode and such.

>>62822181

Even that episode had Giles playing the guitar and singing. And no episode that has that in it can be THAT bad.
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>>62822213
The Mayor was obviously the top villain of the entire series. Talk about fun. Everything after him was pretty terrible desu.
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>>62822312
>Everything after Principal Quark died was pretty terrible
Fixed that for you.
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>>62822312
He was great. Seems like a nice guy one second and then you see his SICK, TWISTED DARK SIDE and then he laughs it off. And that germophobia.
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So experience changing people aside
Ensouled Angel and Spike aren't their human selves right? I mean the human they were died and a demon just has their memories. The demon doesn't leave when the soul comes in so I guess an important question is,did they get any soul back or their soul or does it not matter?

Is Spike lost his soul again, would he really be that different?
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>>62822341
Who was he again? I'm talking about the fun texas guy who had a giant worm or some shit.
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>SPIKE!
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>>62822368
They contradict themselves several times on that.

Harmony, for example stays almost identical to her human self, but with an evil streak that comes up occasionally. She's capable of controlling herself for long periods though, like the first time she visits Cordelia in LA.

Vampires aren't supposed to be able to love without souls, but because Spike was a soppy romantic as a human, his vampire self is capable of some form of love.

I think it's a mix of vampire/human host's personality, and the presence or lack of a soul can tip control either way.
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>>62822379
>tfw ywn have puppet sex with a werewolf
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S3>S2>S1>S7>S6>S5>S4

I don't know about the last half, after S3.

I hated the villains for the last half though, well except Evil Willow, that was great. The First was kinda interesting but I got bored of Spike and his dilemmas.
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>>62822368
Angel and Spike seem to be quite different on this. Possibly because Spike choose to get his soul and Angelus had it forced upon him. Possibly becuase Angel is a total nut.

Angel has a full on split personality now. Spike would certainly not react the same, and was largely similar after regaining his soul. Losing his soul again would hit him pretty hard for sure, but he would never be as bad as Angel.
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>>62821372
What was the 'hatchet job' he was being accused of in regards to black widow? What did he do in AoU that got the radfems and sjws so damn mad?
Was it the whole can't have kids thing?
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>>62822372
Don't sweat it, Anon. I'm just referring to an actor who had a recurring role in BtVS by way of a reference to his work in other televised nerd culture franchises. I'm doing this because I'm insecure and I need e-validation from my e-friends on 4chan, and because making pop culture reference is an easier way to be "funny" than actually coming up with an original joke.

We're talking about the same shit though. When the Mayor ascends to become a demon, his first official act in that capacity is eating Principal Quark.
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>>62822438
S5 is the best season you pleb, putting it below 7 and 1 is an insult.
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>>62822153

4th best out of 7 isn't saying much despite it being great.
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>it's a Xander is a horrible person episode

>it's a Willow is a judgmental cunt episode

>it's a Faith is so totally gay for Buffy episode
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>>62822463
The finale is certainly great and it has The Body but I hated Glory and the shit with the doctor was boring.
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>>62822312
Mayor should have won. The world would have been better off.
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>>62822438
Mine would look a little different, but I never know where to put S1. It was shorter, and I think maybe the show was still figuring out what it wanted to be.
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>>62822488
1) The Gift
2) Restless
3) Becoming pt 2
4) Graduation Day pt 2
5) Prophecy Girl
6) Grave
7) Chosen
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>>62822463
Lmao wat
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>>62822527
I was going to lump S1 in with S2. I prefer it because I like the episodic nature of the show before it got bogged down in grand stories.
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>>62822527
S1 was so fucking comfy, though.
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>>62819877
literally the least attractive girl on the show

even buffy's mom is hotter
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>>62822432
>>62822446
Well the vampire form of the person is more of what people wish they were. I think Angel is disgusted with what he really wanted and so Angel is so different from Angelus.

Spike was a loser, so even ensouled spike likes cool him. Or at least souled Spike uses the tough guy act for the same reasons the unsouled vampire did, because the alternative is being a pussy.

Harmony might just be so superficial that she was all she wanted to be already and so her vampire is just an evil her.

Makes you wonder if a really self hating bully got turned. They might be some kind of bleeding heart.
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>>62822564
Homo detected
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>>62822453
he was too busy playing hide the pickle
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>>62822586
I regret watching that episode.

Fuck Joss for selling out for that anti-drug money, and then being so incompetent that he didn't even get it.
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>>62822564
S3 Faith was hot as all hell, though.
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>>62821372
Not to get too far off topic here, but why do those people pretend like Scarlet Witch isn't a strong female character in age of ultron? She's arguably the only character with an arc.
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>>62822590
Wat?
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>It's a Buffy is an only child episode
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New Joss show when? Seriously now that he's done with capeshit he can finally get back to his bread and butter. He has the clout now not to get cancelled prematurely or fucked about by the network
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>it's a get out, Get Out, GET OUT! episode
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>>62822564
>even buffy's mom

m8 Joyce was a straight up milf
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>>62822702
I'd still fuck her daughters first
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>it's a fat Willow episode
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>>62822739
She literally only had one daughter though

Where's that webm of Dawn? You know the one.
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>it's a Giles plays Freebies episode
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Favourite moments of season six:
Willow's look of horror when she finds out she tore Buffy from Heaven
Buffy and Spike fuck destroying a house.
Dark Willow torturing
Dawn's hip swaying god damn.
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>>62822778
My favorite season 6 moment is when everyone regains consciousness in Tabula Rasa

>"Made with love...for Randy. RANDY GILES!?"
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>>62822564
excuse me?
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>>62822778
>I'd like to test that theory
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>>62822839
Your waifu is shit.
She has to make up for her worse looks by acting slutty.
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>>62822858
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Why was Joss such a pussy? He could have made Buffy/Faith a legitimate thing, but he pussied out and made a sidelesbian.

Pathetic.
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>>62822908
Faith is into older men who are nice to her, or look at her.
Buffy is into mysterious older men who might or might not be evil.
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