I agree that the story was weak but still enjoyed it overall. One of Craig's weaker Bond films but better than 3/4 of Brosnan's.
>>62807899
I agree with you both then.
>>62807899
>brosnan
best bond, shittiest movies.. well except for goldeneye.
>>62808171
>best bond, shittiest movies..
true, unfortunately
Pierce is pretty based, so I'm gonna agree with him even if I didn't watch Spectre.
>>62807899
Not bad for the 24th entry in a franchise. There's only so much you can do with this shit
Of course he's right, have you seen the movie? There's not a single redeeming scene
>craig
>bond
>>62808171
>except for goldeneye
Goldeneye wasn't even good anon, not even as good as Spectre, but it was definetely better than the rest of the Brosnan bond movie
>>62808245
Mission Impossible 5 had a very similar plot but was a much, much better movie with a cool story
“I was looking forward to it enormously,” said Brosnan, who played Bond in four films from 1995 to 2002. “I thought it was too long. The story was kind of weak — it could have been condensed. It kind of went on too long. It really did.”
The Irish actor also acknowledged recent Bond films’ tendency to take some cues from the gritty Jason Bourne franchise — movies that have resided much more in the real world than the invisible car or exploding pens of Brosnan-era 007.
“[‘Spectre’] is neither fish nor fowl. It’s neither Bond nor Bourne. Am I in a Bond movie? Not in a Bond movie?” Brosnan said. “But Daniel, in the fourth go-round, has ownership of it. He had a nice looseness to him.”
Daniel Craig’s predecessor continued with his praise for the current Bond actor: “He’s a mighty warrior, and I think he found a great sense of himself in this one with the one-liners and a nice playfulness there. Just get a tighter story, and he’ll have another classic.”
As for Craig’s much-circulated comment that he’d rather “slash my wrists” than do another Bond movie, Brosnan said, “I think the guy was just fairly banjaxed by playing it. By the time you finish making a Bond movie, you don't want to hear the name, see the name or have anything to do with it because you just want to go to ground.”
Craig did make that comment when speaking to TimeOut London just four days after finishing the eight month-long shoot for “Spectre,” and he’s since clarified: “Maybe I’ll make another one. I don’t know.”
Brosnan has hope we’ll see Craig play the MI6 agent once more: “Give him another year off here, and he'll be ready to rock and roll for sure.”
IT WA SMEE JAMES
>>62808294
>Dr. No, I'm PussyIA
>>62808325
because tom is actually a good action star and this craig dude is shit
>brosnan on shitty bond films
But yeah, Spectre was basically Brosnan tier
>>62808459
SMEE?
My biggest gripe was Waltz's character. He acted it fine as always, but it was poorly written. They spent so much of the movie acting like we hadn't seen his name in the opening, having his face all shadowed. They were pretty heavy handed with the "father, son, other son with face burned out" picture which would be fine if they weren't so damn coy about it. And his motivations, "I've been ruining your life for years because dad liked you better" was pretty weak.
The tie in to the other movies was a nice touch, but that's it. Decent film, could have rivaled Casino Royale if they crafted the villain better
Pretty rich coming from the guy that starred in Die Another Day...
Anyone feel like Spectre the organization was a bit underwhelming in this movie? The idea that they have been controlling and manipulating all these events, and specifically events in Bond's life was a cool idea but felt so anti-climactic. Hell even Captain America TWS did it better with Hydra.
>>62808778
>SO MUCH THIS
Die Another Day has a plot straight out of Disneyland
>>62808825
They built it up well with the scenes in Rome but then immediately rushed through to the anti-climactic ending
>Dat pacing
Brosnan was like a ponce you could forgive for having fun. The situations and characters were wacky, while most of the sets were too minimal (excepting Die Another Day's ice fortress).
https://youtu.be/EAXxhKiXoGk
In contrast, when Craig sizes up a woman or a new vehicle, it's like he's tallying the cost of it all in his mind. Is Craig really more lighthearted in Spectre?
>>62808825
it was just too silly
>all those typists in their steve jobs uniforms turning around on a cue like evil robots
>a fucking drill to the brain
>that silent treatment shit at the table
>some other shit i forgot because the movie was too long
needed more monica belushi
>>62808842
It was more entertaining and more of a Bond movie than these past two.
Agree. The last 3 Bonds were shit. I look forward to Mission Impossible way more nowadays. Charismatic lead, great bitches, etc. Oh so pretty much what I wish Bond would be.
Craig Bonds are shitty 2deep4u grimdark borefests with 0 decent action and charisma. Prove me wrong.
>>62809150
They're getting progressively worse as they become more angst-ridden and dwell more and more on his past.
>>62809150
not Craig's fault at all. He needs a better director than Sam Mendes. Casino Royale and the highlights of Spectre (like, one chase scene and one fight scene with Batista) show he can be awesome in the right mode.
I really like this guy's reviews of the movies, although his videos are truncated or cut from YouTube.
http://haphazardstuff.com/TheBrosnanAgeGoldenEye.html
Judi Dench as M always seemed a bit superficial to me. Dench is apparently there to blench at Bond, kind of how Han Solo is supposed to grimace at everything in Star Wars, or Wolverine is there to scoff at things in X-Men. Yet Dench never seems to smile in spite of herself, so it just creates a roadblock in the midst of the movie.
>>62809150
It depends on number of things. Casino and Skyfall had a certain energy about them which allowed them to work quite well. Quantum and Spectre were just milking what had come before (i.e. QOS tried to be Casino 2.0, Spectre tried to be Skyfall 2.0).
There should be a new director from movie to movie and they shouldn't be so bogged down by what has happened before. Give me a stand alone story.
>>62809596
>Damn it, Bond. I don't trust you. Your 00 status is revoked.
>Damn you, Bond is my agent and I trust him.
She does this every single movie.
>>62809150
The good and the bad with Craig Bond films
Good
>Craig as Bond
>Q
>M (both)
>Cinematography
>Action sequences
Bad
>Too much continuity/relying on narrative themes from previous films
>Needlessly convoluted plots
casino royale is the best bond film. prove me wrong
>>62809730
certainly my favourite
top 3 bond films for me
1. Casino Royale
2. Goldeneye
3. Goldfinger
>>62809725
Add
>Sam Mendes
to bad
>>62809725
>he liked Judi Dench as the evil queen of numbers
May I ask WHY?
>>62809550
>the chase scene
>two cars driving through set pieces completely lacking any interaction
>good
Do you have an odd inclination towards watching commuter traffic?
>>62810032
pierced the buns
