>Spectre
>Why would M wait until she was dead to make sure Bond got the message to seek out Sciarra, a Spectre operative in Mexico City, especially if Sciarra had plans to commit acts of terrorism? Did no one else have a file on Sciarra? Did she know she was going to die?
Smee time?
>Bond goes to Sciarra’s funeral for no reason, and puts himself at risk of being identified by people who may have known Sciarra. He then fucks Sciarra’s wife after saving her from being killed. She had no reason to be saved, and he had no reason to see her. She tells him about the existence of Spectre, the shadow organization that James Bond and others already knew existed.
>>62753939
I thought Lea was cuter in the movie than in that preview
But Q was best girl
>Spectre is shown to be a powerful organization where politicians and businessmen govern from the shadows to further their interests. Positions are held by rich and powerful men and women who fear the wrath of Franz Oberhauser. When a position is to be filled, it isn’t done so with skill and intrigue. Instead, a pro-wrestler jabs a man’s eyes out and deems himself suitable for the position. No one opposes this.
>If Spectre wanted Mr. White dead, why would they put radiation or whatever in his phone? Why let him stay alive long enough to divulge information about the whereabouts of his daughter? We’ve seen previously that Spectre kills suspected leaks without mercy.
Laziest written movie of 2015.
It was the first time in a bond movie that I immediately realized that bond is an assassin and not a spy. the first scene is this guy killing a man. can you just investigate him for a little while?
>Mr. White tells James Bond to find L’American, but doesn’t tell him that it is a hotel. There is no reason not to tell him it’s a hotel. Spectre already knows that this hotel exists because Mr. White worked for them through Quantum, so why not cover their tracks? They’re totally willing to destroy their bases to over their tracks, so why not a small hotel? James Bond has to wait until he saves Madeline to find out about the hotel.
>Nitpicking, but relevant: A close analysis of Sciarra’s ring shows a “DNA Match” connecting Le Chiffre, Green, and Silva to Franz Oberhauser. Did anyone else notice this when Q was analyzing the ring?
>>62754002
yea but she told him where they were meeting didn't she
>>62754096
I figured Blofeld always wanted James to find him so he left breadcrumbs
>L’American has a secret room that cannot be entered unless the flimsy wall is broken down. The wall was built to keep the information inside from being found. Why not destroy the information if you didn’t plan on entering the room ever again? Why build a wall if you intended to get back to the info?
>all the autists in this thread nitpicking when skyfall had just as many gaping plot holes, and the inclusion of the most annoying Q and moneypenny ever
spectre was good BECAUSE it didn't take itself seriously. that's what bond has always been about.
>>62754150
For that matter, how did White just build a wall in front of a room? Did the hotel staff just forget it was there? Did the hotel change ownership and they just couldn't account for the missing space?
Did he just smuggle paint and plaster and boards into his room and hammer in the dead of night?
>There is no reason for the pro-wrestler to attack Bond on the train to the desert. Oberhauser was expecting him to turn up at the crater anyway, that's why he sent the car to pick them up. Couldn't they just have the guy at the base, and had an action sequence when Bond and Swann were escaping?
>>62754182
OP here, Skyfall was shit writing as well, I'll even post thoughts on that one afterward
>>62754182
Relax, it's only one guy posting this
>Franz Oberhauser is evil because he has daddy issues. He thinks James Bond supplanted him as son. This is the best writers could do to connect the two characters instead of saying that they were both recruited for the 00 Agent program and Oberhauser chose to use his skills for evil or something else. Too bad they used that idea in Skyfall!
did they change anything from that script that leaked ages ago
>Madeline Swann chooses to leave the safety of Bond and friends because she cannot tolerate a life of espionage, knowing full-well that she is still being hunted by the shadow organization she is fighting. She is captured immediately afterward, like, literally seconds afterward.
>Blofeld, who has absolutely no reason to be in London, personally oversees the arming and detonation of a building to kill James Bond. The head of a huge shadow organization decides to do this personally, putting himself at risk of getting caught by authorities. He is ultimately caught by these authorities.
>A fully-fueled boat is docked at the MI-6 headquarters which is armed for demolition. There is literally no reason for this boat to be there if the building has been rigged for demolition. This allows Bond to chase down a helicopter and disable it with a single bullet, which is ridiculous because only an hour prior we witnessed a chase sequence with a mostly-destroyed airplane surviving impossible obstacles and disabling two SUVs. The start of the film shows a helicopter doing all kinds of loops and tricks without any trouble.
>Bond, who has a license to kill and no reason to let Blofeld live, lets Blofeld live. There is no reason to show mercy to a man who is so powerful and well-connected he will escape the authorities and continue to run Spectre. After all, Silva wasn’t in custody for long, was he?
Highlights of /tv/ from when Skyfall was out:
Bond pretended to be dead rather than fall into the hands of the only people who could help him.
Then for some reason hackers hack mI6, somehow causing an explosion and the deaths of several people.
Having retired!?! Bond, despite suffering the biggest wounds in the entire history of the Bond series
Immediately unretires and returns to London. Although he fails every possible test to be reinstated, M decides the only agent who can stop the guy who they failed to stop in the beginning is Bond.
Then we go to China, who Fdso gah frrlmpr blaa huygggni asdf so Bond can RTDYTFYTF YUUYFUF FYUFUYF RFR^&U&^R Komodo Dragon.
Bond is captured on the main villains island, which contains approximately 3 guards.
Bond then counter-captures the Joker I mean hacker and put him in a computer-controlled prison, Then, despite having been hacked before They plug his laptop in to their network and turn it on.
The Joker (I mean hacker) then escapes to everyone's...suprise...
BUT THEN
At the final battle, everyone had the same goal: Kill M. Due to this overwhelming consensus, Bond convinces M that
the smartest thing to do is ditch the entire country's security apparatus in favor of driving up to Scotland with basically no weapons, no backup and deliberately leaving a trail for the bad guy to follow.
At the end, Bond defeated himself by not saving the person he was trying to save (The entire point of the film)
Not protecting M even though he should, and obliging the villain to be entirely successful.
>>62753957
After the bombing in Skyfall, she probably took some precautions
>>62754630
"probably"
you're reaching as far as the writers did
>>62754344
this actually throws in some unnecessary ambiguity as well. it makes you think she's turned on them or something and betrayed bond, giving their plan away to blofield.
>>62754429
helicopters can be brought down with small arms fire, especially if it hits the right place and is a commercial touring helicopter instead of military
>>62754707
its exactly what I thought
the whole time I just assumed she was playing Bond for a fool
she wasn't close with her estranged shadow organization father, so why would she have any attachment to him when he died?
>>62754124
by 'a close analysis' you mean looking at the only thing on the screen? giant words and pictures of their faces?
>>62754732
but planes can survive crashing through trees and SUVs and barns leaving the pilot with the most minor of injuries
you can't do a 180 on the 'rules' of the movie in the last scenes.
The point is, Blofeld never should have been there. And if he had been there at all, why wouldn't he have overseen the explosion of the Mi6 building from the new security building right across the river?
Why did he need to be there in a helicopter?
Did he think he could see James Bond getting crushed by rubble from outside?
Was he a secret asshole?
>>62754808
we know that Spectre sponsored the building and the program it served, so Blofeld could easily have just watched from there
>>62754199
>sends him to kill bond
>expects him to report back that bond is dead
>since his hentchman is dead and doesn't report back he resorts to his back up plan
>>62754787
how does dna connect any of those characters. my friend and I looked at each other like "uhhh what"
>>62754873
Because they all wore the ring at some point. It's not difficult.
>>62754851
>sends him to kill bond
>who he has failed to kill twice already
>gets killed
>bond arrives willingly, proceeds to get tortured, which was the back up plan?
>there was no reason for bond to go there
>at all
>>62754893
Why would different members of Spectre wear one ring collectively? Did they share the ring?
>>62754893
how could they all go to secret meetings together?
only one could make it past the guards
because there's only one ring apparently
Has anyone a video for the opening credits?
>>62755024
OP here
The opening credits were 10/10
Fucking loved it
>>62755042
opening credits were fucking awful, most faggoty bond theme ever.
Why was bond immune to brain drills. It was such a fascinating idea that could have been followed up but they just forgot about it.
it was better than i was exspectering
Was this better than Skyfall, at least?
Does Lea Seydoux have enough of the screen time?
>>62756060
It's a mixed bag. The action scenes and "bond moments" were way better, but the story felt a bit weak.
Worth watching if you like bond at all.
>craig
>bond
>>62755787
had a pretty sweet melody tho
>>62755042
Same, I listen to it every day.
>>62754707
>>62754745
I thought this too, and I even liked the movie.
>>62756060
Skyfall was fucking fantastic.
imo
Casino > Skyfall > Spectre > Solace
>>62756585
correct
>>62756585
>>62756623
>assblasted samefag
>>62756697
>>62754471
Bond had been following Blofeld's script the entire way, and being killed would have been a satisfying "ending" for him. Just look at how much he tried to goad Bond into shooting him. So instead he lets him be captured and locked away forever.
>>62753939
lea seydoux is pretty cute t.b.h. f.a.m.s.
>>62756697
>>62756756
>forever
Do you really think he's not just gonna get out in the next movie?
After Craig's era is over I believe that this film will be regarded more favorably. Now people wanted Skyfall 2.0 and were disappointed.
this movie was shit and lea seydoux doesnt even really get naked.
and why the fuck do to they fall in love? nothing even really happened but she suddenly says she loves him when hes getting tortured (and apparently the torture doesnt affect him since he's a perfect shot right afterwards and rapes everyone easily)
>>62754096
He tells him to find L'Americain because it tells him where to go next. Why didn't he just skip a step and tell him where to go next? Why did he tell Bond where to find his daughter knowing that he was undoubtedly going to fuck her and that her odds for survival as a Bond girl weren't great?
Best James Bond is Sean Connery
>>62757182
that's a strange way of spelling George Lazenby
I watched casino royale again an hour ago
its fucking miles better than spectre. Story is a mess, much more noticably than other films, and much of the good stuff was wasted like blofield
CS > Skyfall > Quantum > Spectre
Spectre is one of the best bond films imo. It reminded me of classic bond
>>62757453
>Quantum > Spectre
Jesus, trying to be a step ahead of the contrarian curb here.
Blofeld was so wasted in this movie.
>>62759085
Fuck off, Quantum was boring whole Spectre was bad. I rather watch a boring movie than a movie where the plot was pulled out of someone's ass a week before shooting
>>62759237
I'd rather watch a movie that at least entertains me in its ludicrousness and well executed action scenes than sit through a snore fest about some oil magnate stealing water with scenes that trigger epilepsy.
>>62759278
this
>>62759278
>implying
How much are you getting to shill for Spectre? It's better to have next to no potential then fail, than to have so much fucking potential, with Walton and Bautista and hot Latino girl and being the last Craig Bond film, then turn out to be garbage. Fuck you, this is the last Craig bond film and they sent it off with a fart
I can't stand these new bond films. With the exception of Eva Green's on screen time heh. But that was short lived.
The action sequences are simultaneously over the top and utterly boring. And those are the heart of the movies. The writing is terrible, as if done by a committee - soulless and stupid, Bond is a wooden himbo with no charisma whatsoever... They are just terrible. It's disappointing.
Wait wait wait. They're brothers?
Are you telling me we've come full circle and James Bond is now pretty much Austin Powers?
Did CinemaSins already do a Spectre video?
>>62761456
>watches cinemasins
>>62761235
as stated by (you) and many others many times before. Why play the role of autist and act like you never noticed this or never saw this pointed out on here?
Why not just say its stupid
>>62761456
>did cinemasins do a video on a film that is still in theaters?
You dumb?
Also
>cinemasins
>>62761683
Heres a (you)
>>62754002
God maybe that's why that entire sequence bothered me so much. It felt completely unnecessary.
why do people not like quantum?
the scene at the opera is better than anything in Spectre or Skyfall, and Mathieu Almaric is perfect bond villain casting.
>>62760576
How much are you getting to shill Quantum?
>>62753939
>"IT WAS ME ALL ALONG JAMES"
It was me, James. The author of all ya pain.
The tentacle sex at the beginning got me hard desu
>>62754035
I thought batista was already in the crew, and that he was just taking the job to kill that blonde chick from that guy
