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Told you it'd get pruned edition

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>>62734672
reminder that Paris
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so was that guy just trolling about finding the image?
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What's the worst New Series episode that isn't Kill The Moon, In The Forest of the Night, Love & Monsters, Sleep No More or Fear Her?
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>>62734710
Partners In Crime
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>>62734738
>no backlink

Nah m8
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>>62734710
Aliens of London/World War Three
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>>62734710

most of last season
Hungry Earth/ Cold Blood
Girl In The Fireplace
anything with the Cybermen
Idiots lantern
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episode rate
http://strawpoll.me/6006508/
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>>62734899
>Girl In The Fireplace
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>>62736732
get over it.
plenty of people hate the Eps I and I don't care
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Don't read this thread.
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>>62734672
Last thread
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>>62738840
Some of you guys are cool.
Don't come to Gallifrey yesterday.
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Well, they got one chance at found footage and this is what they wasted it at. For shame.
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I dunno, I kinda liked it.
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>>62739055

The opening of the episode gave me really high hopes for what it would be like. The way the guy said he'd "try" to get most of the footage in the right order and how some of it might be missing. I was expecting some nonlinear storytelling and gaps between scenes you'd have to fill in with information from other scenes. It didn't live up to any of that.
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>>62739080
It wasn't all bad. Was geniunely surprised by twist in the end, although I should've seen it coming.
But it was pretty boring. Monster explaination was just plain stupid. Design was uninspired. And monsters born of accelerate sleep deserves more.

Doctor Who, no matter how soft, is science fiction. It should not dip into just-so stories aethetics.
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So what's the best Gatiss story?

http://strawpoll.me/6010423
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I need to get off 4chan and go watch First Doctor serials.
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>>62739376
yes this. have you watched them before
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>>62739409
>tolerable
>because of the Paternoster Gang
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>>62739465
I don't usually agree with le trashman anon but there's a first time for everything I suppose.
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>>62734710
Dalek Asylum.
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>>62734710
Power of Three
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>>62739311
The Crimson Horror was tolerable because of the Paternoster Gang, but all those episodes are shit. They are the evidence that Gaypiss is consistently a bad writer.
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Why did I even get deluded, it's a Gatiss story
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>>62734710
Voyage of the Damned
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>>62739409
>>62739558
we got an echo in here
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>>62739580
I didn't know it posted. I got an error page before.
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>>62739455
I am about to watch Doctor Who - S01E05 (005) - The Keys of Marinus (4) - The Snows of Terror. I skipped the "reconstruction" of Marco Polo.
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Imagine being Capaldi right now. Having given up the opportunity to star in any top drama and work on feature films he took his dream job. And this is what he gets the most bland forgettable stories possible and the casual audience slowly creeping away from this tired old show.
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>>62734710
Before the Flood
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I think my only problem with Sleep No More is that it doesn't feel like Found Footage. Too many cameras. If that would be feed from only one soldier would be better.
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>>62739617
cool beans. are you enjoying the serials
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pros:
>great use of the mr sandman song especially when that one dude had to sing it

cons:
>literally everything else
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>>62739625
A great actor and bad scripts, like a HYBRID.
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>tfw osgood turned into a pretty good character, after a rough start
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>yfw you realize Sleep No More is the new Ghost Light
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>>62739692
Yeah, they're not 21st century movie paced like nuWho, but they're interesting. It's weird how Ian and Susan are the main characters more often than the Doctor. The Doctor doesn't seem to know much or he doesn't want to share. He's not the guy who always has a trick up his sleeve yet. I love how unpretentious it is.
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>>62739778

He's still young.
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what's /who/'s opinion on the latest episode?
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>>62739773
How so?
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God, this show turned to shit. It's so sad.
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>>62739794
It's a Gatiss episode, what do you think?
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>>62739794
It's about eye boogers. What do you think?
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>>62739625
Hearing the word Morpheus repeatedly uttered while staring at his face made me angry we aren't getting him in a Sandman adaptation.
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>>62739797
atmospheric intriguing incoherent
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>>62739817
hivemind
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Next time the Doctor goes up against bellybutton lint. It will be a horror that takes place in a future human base and written by Mark Gatiss.
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>>62739794
Literal trash. Makes it into my top 5 shittest episodes of NuWho list.
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Toe jam? That will be a Thirteenth Doctor adventure.
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>>62739778
thats how I felt, I would love to see some of the 1st Doctors traits trickle into Nuwho. I was lucky engough to watch from Pertwee to McCoy through the 80's so I was used to the pace, and I have never really adjusted to Nu Who.

How come you skipped Marco Polo?
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>>62739927
It's a reconstruction so I decided to watch it later.
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I wasn't really feeling the first season, I watched The unearthly child and the dalek story I think. At what point in classic who does it become somewhat like Nuwho?
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Oily hair/skin? stuff under your nails? Stuff around your teeth and in the corners of your mouth in the morning? Sweat?

I'm thinking we can make a whole arc out of this
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>>62740023

McCoy's last season.
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lol it doesn't even look like snow.

I wish Terry Nation was still alive and writing for Doctor Who.
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>>62740062

If you want every Dalek story to be a retread of the Dalek Invasion of Earth then why not listen to some Dalek stories by Nicholas Briggs?
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>>62740028
dingleberries
smegma
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>>62739992
fair enough.
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Back in the day, you could learn things from Doctor Who that actually weren't bullshit.
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I enjoyed Sleep No More.
I liked the use of the narrator, the atmosphere and the way the Doctor had to leave without figuring out what happened.
It wasn't great, but then neither were any of the other stories ij this season. I only hope that we can get at least one GOAT before it ends.
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>>62740156
Next episode will be pointless crap with a big dramatic ending. 11 will be the best episode of the series with a great plot, writing and an amazing cliffhanger. 12 will shit the bed in massive way and leave us all feeling cheated.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p037vvn2

Reece Shearsmith's impression of the Borad from Timelash.
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>>62740218
>part of a Moffat finale
>great plot, writing and an amazing cliffhanger
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>>62740251

The Pandorica Opens and Dark Water were good.

Like RTD, Moffat has the habit of shitting the bed when it comes to writing a conclusion.
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>>62740251
sounds like Pandorica Opens and Dark Water to me
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>>62739748
>dat pic
Lemme give you some advice, okay. Don't fuck with me.
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>>62740251
Yeah the first half is always good leaving everyone hyped for the finale, then he pisses away all the goodwill with a huge dumb anticlimax.
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>>62740290
YOU WANT CHANGE? YOU WANT CHARACTERS TO GROW OR SOME SHIT LIKE THAT? NAH SENPAI I GOT WATCHU NEED: SHITTY "POWER OF FRIENDSHIP" DEUS EX MACHINA AND SOAP OPERA GRADE CRYING
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>May the Gods look favorably upon you
Gatiss doesn't know anything about Japan does he
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>>62740270
Pandorica Opens and Dark Water were shit.

The Doctor's enemies all combine for the first time in the show and all they can do is a box to trap him in that as it later turn out can be easily opened by a sonic screwdriver anyway. And that's all they do besides luring him there.

Dark Water has dark water exist for no other reason than for "spooky" reveal, Unit is retarded again as apparently even though there's inspections being done by some government office, they later didn't know that 3W was bigger. And tries to make you care about Danny, who's a shit, and her relationship with Clara, that's forced.
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So let me get this straight because it's 3 AM and I have no fucking idea what's going on

The scientist guy isn't actually the scientist, but one of the Sandmen that takes his form. Sand-scientists creates a video that can send impulses to activate your eye-boogers to turn them into more Sandmen and uses the Doctor, Clara, and the rescue team as characters in the video to captivate you into watching the entire thing. So that means that nothing in the video actually happened, correct?

But how did the Sandmen know about 12 and Clara? How did they know about the psychic paper, sonic sunglasses, and TARDIS?
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>>62740320
Shinduism?
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>>62734691
What image
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>>62740373
Did they brought Doctor and Clara or are they just in the right place at the right time? Scientist guy brought the backup soldiers to create a viral video with subconsious impulses to create more sandmen. Everything happen.
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>>62740320
If it's far enough in the future for Japan and India to get fused together, it's far enough for the religion to change.
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>>62740373
It probably happened but science guy delivered unreliable exposition.
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>>62740400
Shintoism is more of a culturally ingrained set of traditions than an actively practised religion.
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>>62740446
Is that how merging works, I mean French Canadians and English-speaking Canadians are still culturally and socially and linguistically distinct and so are English and Scots and Irish and Welsh and so were the populations of the Austro Hungarian Empire, frankly living together doesn't necessarily mean your cultures just entirely meld into reach other.
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The trashbag knights will never get past this paper mache horsehead covered with plastic wrap.
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I watch Doctor Who for the plot.
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anyone else feel like the eye booger thing was gatiss' way of imitating the weeping angel don't blink thing?

what other retarded monsters based on body functions are we going to get.

don't yawn or your jaw dislocates and you become a snake monster?
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I forgot to pay attention. Did they say hybrid again?
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>>62740608
queefs
burps
earwax
spitting
gleeking
cavities

The human body is a Gatiss goldmine.
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That episode sucked. This series has been great but come on. 3/10 for uninspired monster design, lazy storytelling, meaningless sequences. Ambiance and direction were on point, as was Chopra's acting, but this script and monster design couldn't be saved.
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>>62740554
They don't need to have merged (although that may be what Gatiss was trying to imply). Anything could happen to their cultures in two millenia.
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>>62740373
if the video was enough why did he need to kill anyone and go through all the shit.
Just send out the video through space.
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I just think Gatiss is just unnecessarily romanticizing sleep. It's literally a biochemical process. Keeping yourself awake with coffee is one thing, but if there was a machine that could replicate all the functions of sleep in a shorter period of time there wouldn't be anything inherently wrong with that.
You might as well say that people who take vitamin supplements have created an "abomination" because they didn't get their vitamins from food which is just as romanticizable as sleep.
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>>62740633
the guns were hybrid glowsticks and clubs
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It felt really Moffat-y, though, didn't it?
Taking something innocent and harmless, something from our everyday life and try to turn it into something scary.
What's next Gattiss?
A monster made out of piss and cum?
Like a hybrid.
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>>62740740
I think its a decent concept desu family, if you make the monsters something like coming from a dream universe that can come through when you stop sleeping. The monsters we got were retarded and ruined it.
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So, just asking for confirmation...
Everything actually happened, some events were manipulated by Rassmussen to captivate the viewers' attention(like turning off the gravity shields or something), right?
So, this was only the first part of the invasion of the Sandmen?
Rassmussen had everything planned out, I have only one question.
How was the found-footage explained in the episode?
I didn't get that part, I understood the Sandmen were blind, but how did that fit in with the others' viewpoints?
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>it's The Doctor, stupid! He's not Dr. Who!
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>>62740740
i would think that speeding up the process of the sleep cycle could effectivley burn the body out. maybe the body could degrade as well.
I guess it all depends with the explaination on how the machine and it's processes work
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For anyone who didn't fully understood what happened(copy-pasted, credits to some guy)
Okay, so a lot of people seem very confused by the plot to this one. Perhaps it's the found footage material that's throwing people off? It's actually fairly straightforward when laid out linearly, but you're only given enough information to solve it towards the end. Anyway, I hope people will give this a squiz and stop getting confused over the plot of the thing.

To whit: The Neptunian scientists were doing some mad science and accidentally sped up the rate of biological development while trying to upgrade their sleep machine. This sped-evolved a race of carnivorous monsters that were made up of human waste -- shed skin and mucous, mostly. The monsters were transmitted by visual devices, represented by a kind of visual glitch.

The monsters killed everyone, and then they kept evolving.

A rescue mission is sent out to the space station, but they've walked into a trap. Some of the dust has taken on the form of Rassmunssen, the lead scientist and the most likely object of the retrieval team. Its aim is to propagate its species.

The Rassmunssen copy is implied to have a psychic connection with the rest of the dust, and an ability to control and shape it. Some of it he uses to record the rescue team, and the rest he uses to terrify and kill them. (The dust seems to be made of whatever was left of the crew, so I'm going to wildly conjecture that the "dust mote cameras" are made up of whatever was left of their eyes.) He does all this in order to create a video that he hopes will go viral -- a "last will and testament" of the crew type of thing that has the hidden activation signal for the dust hidden inside it. Anyone who watches the video while also having been in the sleep machine will become a monster.
(1/2)
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>>62740825
>oh Dear Lord
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>>62740864
He then runs off to compile all this data into a believable form -- but part way through the recording he's interrupted. He confesses to what he's done, partly, and then Commander Nagata of the rescue team shoots him. As he's actually a dust monster this has no effect on him, so he instead pretends to be dead, and then gets up and finishes the recording after they've left. The Rassmunssen gestalt creature dissolves into nothing when the gravity shield fade but manages to send out his message just in time. The end.
(2/2)
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Watching the next episode. I wonder what Dr. Who has been up to.
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My dad thinks this series' recurring theme is clara sleeping in pods

thoughts?
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is that the graffiti dude in the next episode?
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>>62740864
>>62740881
We get it. Its still shit.

>Human waste evolves into sentient life
>Transmitted by visual devices
Stupid.
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>>62740969
yes.

>>62740966
Your dad has more common sense than the entirety of /who/
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So would it be okay to count that episode as being non-canon filler?

I mean it was pretty nonsensical. Even Metal Gear Rising had more plausibly sciency stuff than this.

Sapient eye boogers? Come on man?
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>>62741009

Sleep no more is NON CANON because the opening titles didn't play and it doesn't reference any previous episodes so therefore does not become canon under the two way canoning clause

Just to repeat, Sleep No More is NOT CANON
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>>62740969
No just the same actor with the same character name acting the exact same
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>>62734710
The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe.
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>>62741044
my recording cut off most of the preview for next week
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>>62741044

Can't wait for flatline to become canon
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I'm glad we got a standalone episode in a very serialised season.
I'm actually considering introducing someone to Doctor Who with this ep.
It's exactly what it is, scary, silly, mostly forgettable characters, lots of action without most of it actually making sense.
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Great job gatiss, now whenever I rub the sleep out of my eyes I'll be reminded of how shit this episode was

who /foreman/ hype? Certainly will be better than the show
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>>62740966
...well fuck
>Clara inside dalek
>Doctor inside stasis chamber
>Clara inside zygon pod
>Clara inside morpheus pod
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Who was best girl lads?
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What image leaked m80s
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>>62740990
KtM and Forest at least had coherent, if stupid, plots.
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>>62741093

holy shit he might actually be onto something
I told him about hybrids but he's not convinced yet, and I'm trying to avoid letting him know jenna's leaving so I haven't mentioned all of the clara death foreshadowing (in SMN 12 had that 'nor you clara, to die, to die' line which was a little more drawn out than it needed to be were she not going to die/leave)
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>>62741102
are there any parameters?
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>>62741108
I'm still wondering.
Besides the cover of the boxset for Series 9 Part 2, I can't find anything related to what the guy on Twitter leaked on Amazon.
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>>62741102

clala is best girl
donna is best woman
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>>62741122
I just tell everyone I watch it with. If i'm not surprised they can be not surprised with me
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>>62741132
nor rly
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>>62741153
>If i'm not surprised they can be not surprised with me

But where's the fun in that? If I can't be surprised, I'd still like to watch other people be surprised
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4.0 million watched this week's Doctor Who.
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>>62741162
You make a good point anon. I feel kinda bad now. Fuck you mate.
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>>62741165

>there are now 4 million sandman monsters on earth

fug
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>>62741165
Capaldi has killed dr who
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>>62741158
k then
i have to say that i have over 10 favourites from the classic series who I deem better than any from NuWho, So I will say this

Classic- Romana II
NuWho - Donna
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474 gave me feels.
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>>62741256
are you also slow and nobody treats you like a real human being?
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>>62741165
FUCKING BBC LISTEN TO ME NOW, PUT DW BACK TO ITS SPRING SLOT AT 6.30 PM AND STOP FUCKING AROUND
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>>62741256

Waste of a character.
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>>62741256

Are you also an overweight tranny who's been typecast as a mentally deficient abomination?
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>>62741266
No, I just got feels. Maybe I like Promethean the Created too much.
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>>62741281
see>>62741285
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>>62741281
>overweight tranny who's been typecast as a mentally deficient abomination

How did they get away with this? How has tumblr responded to her(?) character?

I could tell she was the tranny because of the nose piercing before anything else
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So how would you change Sleep No More to make it actually scary?
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>>62741256
The act of the heroism was the best part of the episode.
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>>62741226
Classic - Ace, both Romanas, Leela and Sarah Jane(in that order)
Nu - Donna, Amy and Rory, Clara(in that order)
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I was pretty spooked when Rasmussen started turning to dust to be honest family
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>>62741334
fuck I can't type
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>>62741332

Ditch all of the gimmicks to explain how there can be cameras, just play it straight with security cameras and camera helmets

If the sleep machines have to stay a thing, just make the machines convert people into some kind of undead zombie thing instead (no crazy scifi gimmick, just lifeless and aggressive with some kind of super strength to overpower people with)

that's it really. Maybe a scene about airlocks failing so someone dies by being sucked out into the vacuum of space
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>>62741337
Yeah, how many kids do you reckon actually watch this episdode?
How many of them are shitposting on /who/ about it?
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>>62741437
Someone post that one where all the classic doctors are super muscular
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hm... hm what?
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>>62741335
Fantastic list

Fav male Companion is Jamie, no question.

Full Top 10 will be:

Romana II
Ace
Tegan
Jamie
Sarah Jane
Leela
Steven
Victoria
Romana I
Zoe

and to make up a full 10 Female add Tegan and Peri and the end
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>>62741625
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>>62741607

What do you think brings someone to draw a thing like this?
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>>62741102
Classic:
Down to either Zoe or Romana (also best girls by a landslide)
and Jamie
NuWho:
Donna
Rory
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So, er... I thought that Sleep No More was really good and that it was the best Gatiss episode so far by quite a bit...

please don't hurt me
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>>62741709

>it was the best Gatiss episode so far by quite a bit
You're not necessarily wrong on that part
It's just KTM tier science fantasy that's a little difficult to swallow
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>Sleep No More
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>no more
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Why does /who/ have a serious hate-on for Kill the Moon? FotN was worse
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>>62741795
>FotN

Flight of the Navigator..?
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>>62741843
Forest of the Night
or have you forgotten it already it was so bad?
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>>62741856
couldn't think of the title to fit your letters that's all
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>>62741150
>Series 9 Part 2
Where is that cover?
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hey guys i started watching this week's episode but i fell asleep at the end, what happened
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Back then he was Harvey Who, Attorney At Law.
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>>62741899
Eye boogers are monsters.
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>>62741899
>what happened
horrible sand monsters, and you shouldn't bother asking because everyone who posts here is massive contrarian.
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>>62741328
>>62741281
With her voice artificially deepened.

BRAVO GATISS
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>>62741709
>>62741761
Baby don't hurt me... no more
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>>62741281
>tranny
They employ women in the army all the time you pleb
>"But m-muh demifluid transqueer tumblr boogeyman."
No, and also, shut up.
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>>62741964

That was artifically deepend? It sounded natural for a male trying to sound like a woman
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>>62741881
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>>62742002
>that Capaldick bulge
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>>62742002
Thanks. Those covers are bit boring, I hope they will design something more fun for the Complete Series.
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>>62741995
The actor(ess?) is a tranny. Not sure in which direction.
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>>62742002

Terrible cover.
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>>62742002
You want to watch series 9 again? Are you a masochist?
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>>62742033
well then, that proves I know nothing about anything.
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>>62742033
>The actor(ess?) is a tranny. Not sure in which direction.
So she was a man and now a woman or what
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>>62742030
Yes, I think the 'Part 1' and 'Part 2' are created for the more casual viewers who just want to catch up.
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>>62741102
>Who was best girl lads?
Classic: Vicki, Polly, Mel
Audio: Klein, Evelyn
New: Donna, Clara
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>>62742111
I have problem with those multiple editions. Sometimes the christmas specials are in Complete Boxsets, sometimes they don't. This is a mess.
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>>62742109
I don't even know any more, man, all this "I'm not X gender, I'm Y gender but I identify as Z gender." stuff gives me a headache.
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LET ME BE BRAVE, LET ME BE BRAVE.
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>>62742146
Stop this, some of us actually like Clara.
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>>62742127
>Mel Good
>Lucie Miller not GOAT in audio
>Clara not Billie Piper shit tier
Are you fucking retarted?
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>>62742145
It's very straightforward. Gender describes your biological equipment to reproduce. It's not about some sort of social conformity.

People who feel they must mutilate their own genitals to fit in or be accepted are unwell and should be helped.
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>>62742176
That's actually sex.
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>>62742180
Gender and Sex are the same thing
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>>62742109

MtF is most likely, the person has a relatively feminine appearance and voice despite the genetically masculine features they can't change
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>>62742166
Personal stuff. Calm down m8.
Mel's entertaining and lightherted and i love her silly scream antics.
Lucie's ok but nothing special.
Clara certainly not a Rose-tier. And Billie Piper was good as Moment, not her fault Rose was clingy bitch.
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>>62742217

Not in modern terms they aren't
Sex is biological, gender is societal and you get to choose whether you identify as a male or female regardless of what your genitals are

It's bullshit since really biological sex is the only thing that matters, but what can you do
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>>62742145
A faggot who believes he is a woman, is not a woman. An intersexed person on the other hand does have a more complicated gender such as a male with an inactivated Y chromosome or people with multiple copies of chromosomes.
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>>62742270
You're just wrong. Objectively wrong.
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Where's granddaughter when you need someone go give a lecture on social justice culture?
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>>62742304
Hm? What? Hm. Yes, yes hm. Quite so, young man.
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>>62742295
>You're just wrong. Objectively wrong.
When things go down to likes and dislikes there's no such thing as objectivity.
There are people who like C'Rizz and "Underword", so what?
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When was the last time /who/ hugged another boy?
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>>62742344
I've never hugged a boy. I've never hugged a girl. I've never hugged anyone ... ;_;
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>>62742360

hugging boys is fun anon
there's no sexual feelings behind it
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>>62742389
Well I'm gay m8...
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>>62742407

it's just hugging, you're not grabbing his willy or anything
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>>62742389
Depends on which side you hug them from.
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>>62742432

the front side is the straight side right?
it's not gay if you don't press your crotches together
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>>62742127
>No Perri

You homo senpai?
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>>62742466
The back side is the best side because everybody has a back side.
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My fuck nigger Sleep No More was a fucking shit episode
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>>62742519

I remember the day that anon did that coloring
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>>62742494
>You homo senpai?
She's better in audio
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>>62742538
I liked it.

My opinion means fuckall btw
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>>62742538

it's okay, we know
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>>62742538
I liked it.
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>>62742538
>How about this script? It's about boogers.
>Perfect! Make it episode 9.
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you are all infected with the booger monster of no sleep
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Sleep No More would have been so much better with a "Freddy Krueger" style plot
People dying in their sleep and The Doctor goes into someones dream to stop whatever is killing everyone while they sleep
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>>62742640

Would've been too similar to last christmas

The main things it needed to do differently was ditch the whole 'sleep dust is cameras' thing and just play the recovered footage thing straight, and make the twist something more logical than 'the static in this video will mutate the sleep in your eyes'
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https://twitter.com/Markgatiss/status/665829834942193664

Kid probably watched Sleep No More.
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Rewatched sleep no more and decided it is objectively the worst new who episode to date. Not to mention the title is fucking shit and sounds like somebodies doctor who figure adventure series.
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>>62742796

Let's not say things we can't take back.
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Oh shut the fuck up. Fear Her is nowhere near as good as Sleep No More. What the fuck did you expect anyway? It's fucking Gatiss.
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>>62741102
Clara's qtest waifu.
Amy's hottest slutfu
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>>62742494
Perri was as shit as Mel. This board is full of whoplebs.
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>>62742812
this desu
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>>62742820
>Perri
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>>62742871
yeah didn't look right when i copied it. Should never have trusted an anon with such pleb taste to have checked his spelling.
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>>62742667
Oh shit I completely forgot about Last Christmas
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>>62742917
Not unusual for Doctor Who.
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Yeaaaaah

I really really really really really really like you
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There's 12 versions of 12 running around in the castle.
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>>62743163
Is one of them the valeyard?
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>>62739558
Goddamn both Jennies are so cute.

I support a 12 + Jenny + Jenny crew after Clalek dies.
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>>62743190
Each one is actually acting like a past Doctor.
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>'I love you, Doctor.'
>'Clara...'

>She steps through the portal to Gallifrey, closing behind her forever
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>ywn fuck Claudia hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUkqo5McjY
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>>62743163
How do you know this?
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I currently have the music that is playing during Clara's departure.
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>>62743254
I've seen Face the Raven and the next time trailer. The Doctor says "12 versions of me running around this place. Question: why?" he then says (I doubt it's 12 but probably the Veil who is maybe played by Peter?) "Gallifrey is waiting. Gallifrey is waiting."
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>>62743255

fuck did marcelo come through for us?
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>>62743232
>>62743255
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
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>>62743255
Take This Job and Shove It?
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>>62743163
This isn't true. Stop with the fake spoilers.
This is what really happens:
Heaven Sent takes place in a castle called the Genesis Orbit, which is the promised land/garden from Series 8. It's a Gallifreyan space vessel. Because of time distortions, there are three twelfth Doctor's present. One in his velvet, one in his hoodie costume, and one in his series 8 costume. Gallifrey is found at the end of episode 11, and the Time Lords intend to sentence the Doctor to the chronolock chamber, which is the death sentence on Gallifrey, a device capable of erasing the accused from existence. He gets out of the punishment by revealing what the hybrid is, and it was him who created it when he was trying to break the regeneration cycle on Trenzalore. The "no sir, all 13" scene is also in episode 12. Clara does die in Episode 10, but she's in Ep12 as one of the doctors hallucinations, pretending she's still there. Ep12 ends with Gallifrey being restored, and the doctor being made president. But he runs away again. The final shot is the doctor in the tardis remembering Clara as he hears her voice. She says "run you clever boy, and remember" in relation to The Doctor running from Gallifrey once more. He smiles to himself tearfully before saying "oh, Clara, my Clara. How could I possibly forget?". The credits play with Clara's theme over them
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Oh boy, is it "make up fake spoilers" time again?
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