>Rey flies the Falcon once and suddenly knows more about it than Han and Chewie do
>Flies it better on her own than any two pilots have ever flown it, despite specifically stating that "it would be easier with a co-pilot"
>Rey can fix a hyperdrive even though she's never left Jakku since she was a child and therefore has never been in a situation involving a hyperdrive malfunction
>Han and Chewie ever allowing the Falcon, their prized possession, to be "stolen," which will never be explained
>Finn has literally no reason to defect if the First Order actually indoctrinates people to the extent that's implied
>Finn and Poe have zero reason to trust each other yet have a buddy cop bromance right off the bat for no reason
>Kylo can freeze blaster bolts in midair yet struggles against a janitor with no Force affinity because muh bowcaster wound
>Meanwhile a random stormtrooper with a stun baton easily defeats the same janitor
>And that same janitor admits he knows nothing about the shields, but somehow knows exactly what the "thermal oscillator" is and its exact location on the Starkiller Base
>Starkiller Base AKA "Not A Death Star"
>they literally fly down a trench to destroy it
>>64068178
>can't fly through stars or supernovas in hyperspace according to ANH, yet shitty Disney/Marvel logic allows Han to fly through the Starkiller's shield in hyperspace by "timing it just right," when Ackbar literally states that their ships can't penetrate the shield one minute before this. Also, the X-Wings can't do this same trick even though they have perfectly good hyperdrives
>the shields are never properly disabled, just turned off by Phasma, which doesn't sound any kind of alarm to Hux or anyone else in the First Order
>Kylo leaves Rey to be guarded by a lone stormtrooper even though he already knows she has the Force and explains this to Snoke right before she uses it to escape by magically teaching herself the Jedi mind trick without even knowing what it is, when ten minutes before this Kylo freezes her in place and mindfucks her
>Rey goes from not even realizing the Force is real to being able to pull Luke's lightsaber away from Kylo in the span of one movie, while no other Force user progresses this quickly without training or in a single movie: Luke took two movies to just barely pull his lightsaber and escape the wampa in ESB, and still isn't powerful enough to actually beat Sheev by the end of RotJ
>>64068189
>Phasma is literally thrown in the trash after getting almost no screen time, just so they can make a shitty OT reference
>Han is basically just there to make OT references and pep talk the new characters
>says "I've got a bad feeling about this" AFTER something bad is already explicitly shown to be happening
>New Republic are a bunch of space pacifists who have apparently disarmed and dismantled their star fleet for no reason, totally invalidating the Alliance's struggle in the OT, and are localized entirely in one system waiting to be destroyed
>Han and Luke just giving up and disappearing for thirty years at the first sign of trouble, also totally invalidating the OT
>R2D2 can go into magical "low power mode" which locks out any access to his databanks, yet couldn't do this in ANH when it would've truly been useful
>When they get back from blowing up the Not A Death Star, Leia completely ignores Chewie, Han's best friend, and instead runs to hug Rey, who she just met like an hour ago, even though Chewie and Leia have been through shit together and have experienced the loss of Han before
[spoilers]This movie was garbage, search your feelings, you know it to be true :^)[/spoilers]
>>64068178
is it explained why Han (who is a legendary war hero) has no money? they could have at least made him like a death stix addict or something
it just doesnt make sense that hes whoring himself out to TWO people on some retarded super dangerous deal. and like hes screwed these people over before? why? why is he broke? what the fuck is going on and why is this not going to be explained?
but no, they needed Han to be good old Han and that involves being in debt and in trouble, its like poetry!
>>64068178
>Finn and Poe have zero reason to trust each other yet have a buddy cop bromance right off the bat for no reason
can you back this up at all?
Poe trusts finn because he has no choice, and Finn CAN trust poe because he knows poe is resistance
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>>64068319
Finn had literally just watched one of his friends die at the hands of Resistance fighters, and suddenly decides to betray the First Order despite supposedly being indoctrinated his whole life
Also, why would Kylo even keep Poe alive after getting the information about BB-8 out of him? He knows Poe is the Resistance's best pilot, and Poe was either A. Telling the truth about the droid and therefore of no further use or B. Lying and of no use at all.
Kylo has no reason at all to keep him alive
>>64068456
>Finn had literally just watched one of his friends die at the hands of Resistance fighters, and suddenly decides to betray the First Order despite supposedly being indoctrinated his whole life
separate issue from them trusting each other, if you want to argue Finn's side switching thats another point irrelevant to Finn and Poe trusting each other
>Also, why would Kylo even keep Poe alive after getting the information about BB-8 out of him? He knows Poe is the Resistance's best pilot, and Poe was either A. Telling the truth about the droid and therefore of no further use or B. Lying and of no use at all.
also irrelevant, but this is a good point, especially because Kylo's method of extraction rules out the possibility that Poe could lie about it, remember he does it by literally going inside of Poe's mind
>>64068515
Finn just seeing one his friends die is relevant because it shouldn't make him like the Resistance more, if anything it should make him more committed to the Order, who he has, again, supposedly been indoctrinated to support for his entire life
It also makes no sense that Finn would know absolutely nothing about TIEs, while Poe knows everything. Maybe Finn shouldn't be an expert pilot, but you'd think he'd at least know how to fly one.
But then we couldn't have Rush Hour in space
>>64068607
when i said it was irrelevant, i meant irrelevant to Finn trusting Poe. After Finn made the decision to defect, he was already in a state of trusting poe. if you want to argue about his decision to defect thats a separate topic.
Finn isnt a pilot, Poe is. What percentage of the current army knows anything about the cockpit of an F16?
and the idea that his friend dying would make him more committed to the order seems wrong too, lots of people had comrades die in vietnam and this made them more jaded about the US military than the vietcong. the reverse happened to (killings making them more jingoistic), but its not as simple as "if x then y" like you say
the film had a lot of shortcomings, the Poe/Finn relationship was not one of them
>>64068969
But how does Finn know Poe won't immediately turn him over to the Resistance, or just kill him after he helps him escape?
After all, Finn has been taught that the Resistance are a bunch of savage space terrorists who aren't to be trusted, why would he seek help from one of them?
