What did you guys think of episode 2?
Episode 1 consensus:
>much better than expected
>syfy stepping up
>CGI and prosthetics impressive for a miniseries budget
>good acting
>Colm Meaney and Charles Dance absolutely brilliant
>faithful to the novel
Protip: today is Arthur Clarke's birthday, he would have been 95
Still not on par with BSG though
>it's a chief o'brien did literally nothing wrong episode
>>63702275
I recognised the girl from Orange is the new Black and squeed like a dying pig. She is my absolute favourite and I love the amount of screen time she got, such a beautiful voice.
The scene with the pregnant woman touching the portal thing was confusing.
What bothered me was how quickly the humans in attendance at the party turned on the alien. If an Alien Species helped out the human race that much, I would gladly let them slaughter/eat/rape low double digit of the population without batting an eye. All he said was some cryptic thing about an end of an era or a change coming. They all looked like he farted directly into their mouths. They will play up the 'the aliens were evil all along, they betrayed us' angle way too hard in Episode 3.
My only concern with the show so far is how quickly everyone unites. You really need to suspend belief to allow for such a sudden radical change in ideas in just 15 years. I think a unified militaristic resistance would have formed very early on, and attempted to sneak nuclear weapons on board the space ships or create massive instability through false attacks designed to look like alien sabotage.
I'd like to think that when offered everything on a silver platter, humanity on the back of thousands of years of critical thinking and barbaric instinct of self-preservation, would closely investigate any catch-22's.
>>63702275
just started part one and it's literally
>SHHHH NO TEARS, JUST DREAMS NOW
top kek
>>63702624
>I'd like to think that when offered everything on a silver platter, humanity on the back of thousands of years of critical thinking and barbaric instinct of self-preservation, would closely investigate any catch-22's.
Aye. We are inherently suspicious.
>>63702275
Ep.2 seemed like a whole lot of nothing, frankly. Too much talking, not enough showing. Granted, cgi paradise would be expensive, it's more of a barely nothing happens kinda way. A lot of the plot progression seems cryptic just for the sake of it, under-explained or at odds with what is a reasonably realistic approach, moreso than the 1st one, I thought.
Stuff I found iffy:
- A brazilian woman that speaks perfect english and falls back on spanish for some reason instead of portuguese. Also, she's called beretta for some reason.
- No reason for scientific progress being halted offered. Someone doing something positive being met with acceptance is valid like say, "Hey, I'll stop crime" you go "Sure", not "Why?". Ceasing something positive like research shouldn't be and you're not really told why.
- A lot of what Karellan/The overlords accomplish seem to be cloak & dagger for no reason. Why not ask for a couple of humans and then stuff all the probes wherever inside your ship rather than out in the open? God knows they'd earned the right to ask.
- Speaking of god, Beretta seemed to have missed the mark entirely. Why would you be so quick to turn on someone, even the devil, for something that didn't affect you at all? Why aren't her suspicions ever given voice other than through slight allusion? Why doesn't she share her doubts with anyone?
- The reaction to Karellan at the party seemed off. If someone told you essentially that your time is up, wouldn't you ask some questions? Ditto for the "you were heading for technology you had no hope of controlling" thing.
- Also, how contrived is it that a vial cures everything except "that one disease" which there's only one vial's worth of cure? And that doesn't raise any questions either??
I'm liking it but it's raising a ton of questions and issues I'm afraid won't be tackled satisfactorily because reasons. (Mainly, it's not a book) Hoping ep.3 is great because any less will feel horrible.
>>63706295
Also, Charles Dance can rule my planet any day. No homo.
This show gave me depression. Is it all really pointless?
>>63706982
Yep. Sorry bud, it only gets worse
>>63707033
How do I fight it? Should I just end it?
>>63707063
Take things day by day. Go to therapy, go to meetings. Focus on getting as much pleasure and company as possible, it's what makes life bearable.
im dissapointed by how they made kerellen look, he looks silly as fuck
when does the last part airs?
>>63707574
Ditto. They should have done something more like this.
>>63707574
Wut? Why? He looked exactly like the Satan archetype we have.
Granted, the book mentioned he was clad in black armour, but the impact here was terrific.
>>63707640
Tonight.
>>63707804
That would have taken money.
It's weird that this is the third time i've seen an excerpt from that book on aliens this week.
>you deceived us
>no! you have deceived yourselves
Powerful stuff
>>63708185
Oh wow this just rips off madoka doesn't it?
Stormgren ?
I am Secret Service.
>>63708636
>>63708667
uh, you don't get to bring that
Just one abductee gets to stay in my SUV.
>>63708667
lazy fucking writing when that woman just appeared a few feet away unnoticed
The fuck? They made Childhood's end into a tv show? Why did I never hear about this?
Did they fuck it up? Is it a pure recreation of the book, or is it an alternate story?
I love Clark's stuff, it would be a shame if they butchered his story
It is a pretty short book, so I guess it's couple-of-episodes material
What's the deal with the Ouji board thing the pregnant girl was using?
>>63702275
have not seen ep 2. so far I like the book more,since it has views that contradict mine but book was comfy. I did like the satan make up
>>63708810
It's pretty good and a faithful adaptation.
It's three parts, last one airs tonight.
>>63708824
Tywin wanted to see how far along the psychic evolution of the next generation has advanced. They will probably elaborate on it next episode.
>>63702624
>They will play up the 'the aliens were evil all along, they betrayed us' angle way too hard in Episode 3.
they changed things for the show?
>>63708810
Not only is good, it has even fucking CIA on it. It doesn`t get any better than that.
what was that faggotry with them pouring oil in water glasses?I get the symbolism but thats the kind of action that would get a fucker cut
>>63706295
>Ceasing something positive like research shouldn't be and you're not really told why.
its only space research. also people don't really have a choice
>>63708936
A lot of people assume the ending will be different sinceit's not exactly a happy ending for humanityand such movies or tv-shows are never made. I wouldn't be surprised if they shoe-horn some evil side to the demons in the last episode, or even yet change the ending completely.
I hope I'll be delightfully surprised.
>>63706982
yes but you can go out in a comfy montage or in wild sex parties, its all up to you.
>>63708976
One of the screenwriters is an edgy teen?
>>63709030
I do hope the ending is the same as in the novel.
>>63707806
there's a ton of different satan archetypes, I just wish they would have gone a bit further so he doesnt look ust like a tall man with a devil costume
>>63709030
I think it's going to stay faithful based on the very first scene in the first episode.Earth is already done for and the nigger was talking to Tywin's robot
>>63707574
he looks perfect,literally the public image the devil made flash.
>>63707804
that only looks midly satanic
>>63709070
his look is the most popular
>>63708433
all stories about cosmic entropy are the same
>>63708667
give me the space dildo
>>63708810
Im not getting the same feeling I got from the book. some things have been changed to streamline things and conect them to each other
For book readersHow come Karellen's race couldn't be absorbed by the Overmind?
>>63709030
well its not happy in the book either. its bittersweet,true humanity dies out and then feral mutant kids ascend to heaven by destroying earth
>>63708636
shit
>trusting a devil looking thing
Humanity, not even once. If this shit happened in real life, no one would trust that fucker after he revealed himself, no matter what good he has done by that point.
People would rek his shit immediately.
>>63709200
I read the book a lot of years ago but I think only a handful of races were able to ascend, it was a pretty elitist club and kerellens race were space plebs
>>63709200
They're an evolutionary dead end
>that evangelion ending in the book
>>63709200
>>63709285
iirc all could ascend except space Tywin's race
>>63709200Their race doesn't have latent psychic powers like humanity apparently does.
>>63709030
nvm, did not read your post right.
>>63709063
>One of the screenwriters is an edgy teen?
I was really trying to recall if that was in the book.the book did not go into the details of how world got fixed but here it seemed like a libtards wet dream with everyone instantly stopping their age old conflicts and the entire Us navy being converted into food carrier to africa. maybe I recall it wrong but in the book even when people could no longer fight with guns they still wanted to fight and it took years for that to die down. I know they have to speed things up but it all just came out looking retarded
>>63709279
>trusting a devil looking thing
But according to Christian mythology, angels were on the side of Good and people obviously trusted them if they appeared to somebody.
>>63709295
They're only an evolutionary dead end becusethe Overmind seized hold of their fate. That's why they study the Overmind so that they may one day be free again.
>>63709228
>>63709351
Yeah, and try to use the spoiler function for the people who hasn't read the book nor watched the show. Let's not ruin the awesomeness that is Childhoods End for them.
>>63709279
>f this shit happened in real life, no one would trust that fucker after he revealed himself,
Satanist here, I would trust him.
>>63709200they are the devil.story acts all saintific but is quite religous.also they lack the capacity to get psychic powers thus they can't open the gates of heaven
>>63709279
Everybody likes Krampus and he's a devil looking thing
>>63709354
Angels are shapeshifting motherfuckers, any "devil" imagery is Satan intentionally deciding to horrify people, like at the end of the world when he literally turns into fucking King Ghidirah
>>63709443
I will try. also lets be honest if you read that description it would make you want to pick it up
>>63709279
I would. also in universe social change made him more acceptable (like homosexuality) new gen kids don't have the same hang ups
>>63709351
No, it didn't take years in the book. When war against the white population broke out in Africa and when the Spaniards staged a bullfight the demons forced everyone responsible to share the misery they created turned up to 11, and thus everyone stopped at once.
People were however dissident and that took years to die off, but people couldn't use violence in a large scale without suffering themself.
>>63709315
are you baiting m8?
>>63709295
meh, I would want that kind of dead end.I don't want transcendence
dude that christian girl was annoying as fuck, she ruined the episode
you think they're gonna go with the city nuclear bomb suicide?
>>63709488
That's true. The reason why I picked it up in the first place was because someone spoiled the ending for me and it made me want to read the book.
>>63709476
Angels are essentially eldritch beings who have far more abstract outlandish forms the more powerful they are.
>>63709569
well at least they were not hugging each other and crying from joy that war was over.
I want Ridley to direct a big budget 2 part rendezvous with Rama movie
Would be dope
hopefuly he still is working on that Forever War adaptation...
>>63709655
Can you imagine the budget you need to make Lord of Light?
>>63709354
>But according to Christian mythology, angels were on the side of Good
What does that have to do with anything? Angels and devils are two different things.
>>63708185
so kerellen has no cock huh?
>>63709612
we aint seen new athens yet
>>63709655
cant imagine movies for rama books, would be boring as fuck desu
>>63709708
I'm aware but most people think angels look the same as popular media dictates--which is not true.
>>63709717
his tail is his cock senpai
>>63709808
lmao at space whitebois with spaggheti pencil dicks
>>63709575
You wouldn't even be getting transcendence. Your kids would be. You would either kill yourself or end your days doing violently extreme sports.
>>63709913
fuck transcendesce, commie wet dream
>>63709655
Morgan Freeman has been trying to get a Rama movie off the ground for years
>>63709575
>>63709913
lol at the fags with supreme technology that want to ascend, lose their individuality and be forever in some homosex energy state with billions of others
Karelen confirmed idiot
>>63709913
so immortality is better, it at least gives me time to change my mind
>>63709974
I would not mind that as a suicide option but only a fool would make it his goal and be sad when he can't do it
>>63709974
>>63710035
Agreed.
Although an immortal being that has experienced everything and is bored would view it differently I'd guess. Especially, if there is an option ofeternal bliss as part of the galactic Overmind.
>>63709030
>a Space Marine Battle Barge drops into orbit
>a Grey Knight Chaplain punches Kerellen so hard that his face explodes into a shower of bone chips and gore
>"Not this time, Tzeentch"
>>63702624
>I recognised the girl from Orange is the new Black and squeed like a dying pig.
>squeed like a dying pig.
>squeed
Well now I have every reason to believe that this show is favored by SJWs and homosexuals. Only SJWs and homosexuals talk like this online. Dropped
>That feel when we're entering a new golden age of sci-fi
>>63710378
>mfw
>>63710378
Thank you based karelen
>>63710378
I can only dream that one day in the far future, we receive a Revelation Space miniseries.
>>63710378
>tfw
"The Stars My Destination" Adapataion please.
>>63710512
anon plz, I can take only so much good sci-fi at once
>>63710757
A lot of the short stories and novellas would make great hour-long episodes too, something like out of Outer Limits.
>Satanist here, I would trust him.
>>63711054
Mmmm it would be a godsend, but too dark and spooky for mainstream series I think.
>mfw imagining Diamond Dogs or The Last Log of the Lachrimosa as episodes of a show
>>63711196
Diamond Dogs would be fantastic to see produced.
Even stuff like Weather or A Spy in Europa could be done well in a short time.
since all the srsscififags are out today, what are you hopes for Nolans foundation TV series on HBO?
>>63711352
>Nolans foundation TV series on HBO
Mildly optimistic. It has all the ingredients to be the best show ever, but I learned my lesson and won't judge until first images or clips come out.
can you just straight up tell me if you're shilling please so I can skip adding it to sonarr
>>63711440
It's a legit good show, not everything is shilling or trolling.
>>63711486
Ok tripfag i'm counting on you
>>63711542
Good man, come tell us how you like it after episode 1.
>>63710156
that goes into a whole theological debate eternal bliss and heaven.How everything is hell if it goes on for long enough or how if you ability to feel different things is taken from you then you stop being you,etc.people often wonder why they should give a fuck about their soul if the soul has no mind or memory(individuality)
>>63710378
its an abstract kind of feel. I could not get into the expanse
>>63709228
Sounds like a familiar plot.
>>63712027
Yeah.
I for one would not go for any form of "ascension", if it means losing your individuality. It defeats the purpose of a continuous existence.
>>63712060
Did you watch all 4 episodes?
>>63712126
yeah, pretty much evangelion.
>>63710378
>New
>sci-fi
>muh devil
>not fantasy
>>63710378
i hope they do more series/mini series from various books, but i hope they do original works too
>>63712276
>that low level bait
why even try?
>>63712276
>Doesn't know what sci fi is.
>>63710378
No we're just entering an age where old books and stories are mined for hollywood dollars.
Why bother?
>>63712533
>scfy
>hollywood dollars
Good one
>>63712533
Everything is a rehash in some form.
>>63712597
Canadian dollars, Hollywood dollars. Same shit with a different name. His argument still stands, autismo.
>>63712628
>Even originality is a rehash in some form.
u dumb
>>63712126
Anno did like childhood's end.
>>63712663
No hes trying to imply modern scfy is know for big budget shows
>>63708636
>lusion? Why doesn't she share her doubts with anyone?
haha, noticed that too
>>63712681
There are no original stories. Writers take ideas and add to them, that's a rehash
Anyone ever read Earthlight?
Short but excellent sci fi novel about espionage on the moon
Would make a great movie desu
>>63713513
>Earthlight
Um... a long time ago. Was it the one where two factions fought on the Moon, but it was their first space battle, so neither was prepared for it? One faction had a spaceship and the other had a tower with a very strong shield on the surface?
There was this guy with a suitcase that brought a secret weapon to the tower... some kind of beam?
If it's that one, it was pretty good.
>>63713733
Yep, that's the one
Remember the molten rock laser beam thingy?
I oughta go re read it. Old paperbacks like that are cheap these days
>>63713979
>Remember the molten rock laser beam thingy?
Hell yeah, that beam is the most vivid recollection I have from that story. How the shield held, but the rock beneath the tower started melting from the heat.
It's probably been 15+ years since I read it, but I often think about it, it really imprinted on me. Maybe, because it was one of my first sci-fi stories and it left a lasting impression.
I wish they adapt Way Station, I really enjoyed that novel when I was a kid.
>>63702275
I am so afraid to watch this...
>>63710378
There is no reason this shouldn't be a tv-movie or mini-series with Benedict Cumberbatch as The Narrator.
>>63714494
> At the end of the novel it is reported that the computer ceased to communicate, which might mean it went on to explore higher intellectual levels, or that it failed to do so and became autistic in the process.
>autistic
Figures you'd like that
>>63714494
The fact it needs a narrator is a pretty decent reason to not adapt it to a visual medium.
>>63714675
kek
Totally forgot about that, nice
>>63714494
So this is our make-a-scifi wishlist now?
so the overlords are cucked by the great galactic hivemind and are pushing other races into it right?
>>63714494
>>63714943
Lem sucks, gtfo
>>63715351
The greatness of the story is that the end is not easily qualified as good or bad. Really depends on the viewer's subjective reasoning.
Is thehivemind good or bad? Is it forcefully including all biological species in it ala Mass Effect or is it just helping (through the Overlords) a natural process?
>>63715376
lol
>>63706295
Tbh senpai, this is only the show.
The book explains everything you pointed a lot better, you should read.
>>63702275
I watched it until the "hero", turned out to be a straight white male *rolls eyes*
>>63702624
>My only concern with the show so far is how quickly everyone unites. You really need to suspend belief to allow for such a sudden radical change in ideas in just 15 years.
Well, considering what's happening withthe childrenand what's going to happen in the future, it's not that unprecedented. They apply totalitarian rule with an iron grasp,so that the humans can integrate with the Overmind. The cosmic consciousness that the Overlords server, but can never join.
>>63717319
??
>>63706295
Christfag is loli sadfu from Knowing
>>63702624
If it's any consolation, in the book it's 50 years before Karellen reveals himself to humanity, not 15.
>>63706982
>Is it all really pointless
What, the SJW crusade? Yes.
>>63708810
J U S T
FUCK MY CHILDHOOD UP
>>63708952
>It doesn`t get any better than that
FOR YOU
>>63710378
Thank you based Karelen
>>63702624
>ISIS vs space lizards
Let's do this shit
Miniseries have better budgets than long running shows. Not just syfy, look at hbo.
>>63708636
>>63708667
>>63708704
>>63712154
how to watch that on vlcplayer?
btw i really like it.
4 episodes?
>>63719898
the 4 episodes comment was about the expanse numbnuts
just download it from pirate bay and watch it with whatever the fuck you want
>>63720096
>the 4 episodes comment was about the expanse numbnuts
so its 3 episodes right?
>just download it from pirate bay and watch it with whatever the fuck you want
no. i only stream
>>63720188
>so its 3 episodes right?
yes
>no. i only stream
why? it's literally two clicks to get everything torrented in HD and it's completely safe
>>63720188
>no. i only stream
So you're an idiot then, alright.
this mini-series continues a general idea in television.
make satan and demons out to have honor and we should respect them, etc. etc.
it desensitizes you to how ugly and foul they really are and mark my words, one day they will walk the earth again and because of this type of conditioning, many people will be cool with it.
This stuff is literally subversive low level demon positive indoctrination for the normies and all the edgy kids out there that have an axe to grind with their Creator so they will say really non-aware stuff like this was "refreshing" and a "unique" perspective on the whole morality debate.
Playing with poison and unfortunately for those who are a generation or two disconnected spiritually, they do not even realize what is happening to them.
>>63720257
why? you can noting do wrong with streaming...
with downloading you can...
and torrenting is the worst of all.
>>63720487
>why? you can noting do wrong with streaming...
So you admit you're actually to dumb to torrent; an idiot.
>>63720392
Is this bait? I think Poe's Law is in effect here.
>>63720543
will you shut your whoremouth now?
>>63720628
Go watch a stream or something.
>>63720600
A warning
>>63720392
That's beyond trolling into full on retardation. Your attempt at bait is just utter failure.
>>63720686
is your mother streaming nao?
>>63718268
Shes a big girl now ;___;
>>63720732
I wouldn't know, streams are for idiots.
>>63718862
KARELLEN 2016
MAKE SCI-FI GREAT AGAIN
> Episode 2
> Religion getting BTFO
I don't remember the book being that full-on. Wasn't the fact "all religion ended" only like a few lines or something?
>>63720774
what makes you think that?
i have very fast internet so streaming is no problem...
>>63720867
>torrenting
>HD quality always
>every single movie and tv series easily accessible
>safe
>store the movies/series on your HDD for later viewing, never dl them again
>streaming
>almost no HD,
>limited number of movies and series,
>less safe,
>have to stream every time since you don't have it on your HDD)
>depends on internet connection,
>only retarded pre-teens that don't understand technology use it
I can go on
>>63720867
All insults aside, streaming has several problems. It's usually low res (though you may find pages that has HD shows) but the biggest problem is that you depend on it, and you're limited on your shows or films. Say you want to watch a foreign film that isn't on Netflix or on that page you stream. Torrents are easy to use, you stick to the popular pages, like thepiratebay or kat.cr, and you'll never be bother with virus or fakes. Just try to learn how to torrent, it's not that fucking hard. I'm giving you a break because I know you're not american and I'm not either.
>>63721084
>I'm giving you a break because I know you're not american and I'm not either.
not low energy person
>>63721084
I bet he is american, they are the dumb ones that fear torrenting
>>63702275
>main character is a straight white male
ugh *rolls eyes* turned that shit off straight away
wow thread still alive, nice
>>63720848
Theres a couple of paragraphs about how the time portal thing the overlords give humanity basically wipes out religion overnight but other than that there's not much outside of a passing mention every now and again
>>63721335
>straight away
>straight
CHECK YOUR CIS SCUM SHITLOOOOOORD
looking forward to the third one tonight, really liked the first two episodes, good shit syfy you fucking faggots
I was amazed SyFy didn't back out on all the atheist stuff. It was actually rather well done considering all that dialogue was never in the book.
>expecting them to not go into the artistic decay at all in the series, or give New Athens its full due
>One guy at the party mentions an LGBT author and his works being inspired by the homophobia he grew up around
>Someone actually ask the question, "If he was living in this utopia, what would he write about?"
Small detail, but at least they are hinting at what eventually causes New Athens to break down andnuke itself
>>63710378
g-guys is it possible we might be entering syfy golden age of television?
