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Several tidbits were revealed over these past few days.

>The Sokovia Accords are created by Secretary of State Thaddeus Ross to legislate superhero activity and turn the Avengers into weapons.

>T'Challa is contributing with the Accords because Ultron used Vibranium to nearly destroy the world and his father wants to avoid political tensions between Wakanda and the United Nations over their Vibranium reserves.

>Bucky is framed for a bombing in the United Nations' headquarters.

>Captain America collaborates with the Accords at first to capture Bucky for interrogation, but upon learning the military have been ordered to kill him, Captain America and Falcon help Bucky escape and are then detained by Ross, have their weapons aprehended and are to be prosecuted, which causes them to go rogue.

>Iron Man feels betrayed because Captain America sacrifices their perceived friendship in favor of helping Bucky, a wanted criminal and a dangerous assassin.

>Bucky's mind is still fracture and, although he has regained some of his memories, he has not entirely overcome Hydra's conditioning nor fully regained his original personality.

>Black Panther joins Iron Man's team at first because he wants to capture Bucky, but is neutral on the political conflict between Captain America and Iron Man, coming into conflict with both, in addition to respecting Captain America's conviction to his ideals. His suit is made of a Vibranium mesh.

>Black Widow decides to support the Registration because she believes it's necessary for the Avengers to continue effectively protecting the world. She is Iron Man's second-in-command and, although she agrees with her viewpoints, she is divided between him and Captain America. She also won't be mourning Bruce Banner's departure.

>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far.
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>Baron Zemo is different from the comics. He won't have his trademark uniform, "Baron Zemo" is only one of his many names, and he is in an unexpected position in the movie, and might become a recurring character in Phase 3.

>Everett Ross is a cultural attaché in Wakanda and has a minor role in the movie.

>Spider-Man is a teenage crimefighter operating in New York City who is recruited by the Registration. He enters the narrative halfway through. He starts out with a cheap homemade costume, and is given the classic red and blue uniform by Iron Man.

>Spider-Man and Ant-Man are the occasional comic relief characters because, as newcomers, they are not as emotionally involved in the conflict as the rest of the Avengers.

>Scarlet Witch is a "wildcard" in the conflict due to her tortured mind and expanding powers.

>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love", and his storyline eventually intersects with Scarlet Witch's.

>Falcon supports Bucky due to his friendship with Captain America and attempts to help him regain his memories and prove his innocence.

>The "Splash Page" fight in an airport includes Iron Man VS. Captain America, Black Panther VS. Winter Soldier, Black Widow VS. Ant-Man and Falcon VS. War Machine, among others.

>The movie is centered in Captain America and, although it's have ramifications in future movies, it does not set them up and is a self-contained story.
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>>63443237
PLEASE, TONY! I CAN'T CARRY THIS MOVIE MYSELF!
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>>63443337
>and is given the classic red and blue uniform by Iron Man
WHY
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>>63443720
Iron Man also gives him the speech about great power and great responsibility
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>>63443784
>>63443794
Kill me
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>>63443720
Based Tony.
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>>63443237

These tidbits arouse me
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>>63443887
The speech part is a lie.
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>>63443237
>>63443337
This actually sounds pretty good. I really hope the Russos deliver.
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>Bucky: The Movie

I'm actually hype.
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>Thaddeus Ross
>Everett Ross

Entirely unrelated character with the same name, wonderful job. Capeshit writers needed to go back to Film 101 about a decade ago.
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So who do you think is going to be killed off?

The trailer showed Rhodey as if he were dead, but even as a minor character I doubt they would show his death in the trailer.

My money is on Bucky. He's wanted, one side aims to kill him while the other wants to protect him, and he's the catalyst behind the tension between Tony and Steve. I'm guessing crossbones or whoever the real bad guy is will kill him as the Civil War draws to its climax, causing both sides to see reason and join up again.

I'm hoping they kill steve, not because I dislike him or anything, but because I would love to see Disney have the balls to kill off one of the main characters. This wouldn't matter if there was a resurrection planned for infinity wars though.
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>>63444099
>I must complain about something
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>>63444194
Everyone dies on this movie.

LOOK AT THE BALLS ON DISNEY NOW.
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>>63444194
Bucky won't die. I don't think anyone relevant will. But Cap will be imprisoned and disgraced.
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This plank (who is the worst part of the best MCU movie despite playing the TITLE ROLE) is apparently gonna be responsible for the Avengers breaking up. Marvel thinks his poorly developed friendship with Cap is gonna carry some weight but 99% of casuals are gonna say, "Literally who is that? Where is RDJ?"
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>>63444194
Sebastian Stan has a 16 movie contract with Marvel.

He isn't gonna die anytime soon.
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>>63444243
Imagine if they kill off Spider-Man and make the standalone movie about Miles Morales
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>>63444290
>Not realizing Captain America is the real Winter Soldier

Pleb.
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>>63443237
>She also won't be mourning Bruce Banner's departure.
Dude slut lmao
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AARGH TONY MAKE ME LOOK USEFUL
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>>63444194

>Marvel
>Killing anyone
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>>63444386
This.

Cap is nothing without his shield, given to him by Tony's father.
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>Antman vs Black Widow

Lol for real? How would she even stand a chance?

He could just crawl up her snatch and grow full size again
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I'm just sad there's no OP Gweneth around since IM3

I like me some pepper tbqh famila
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>>63444434
Black Widow actually beats Ant-Man
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>>63444434
Any man would grow full size in that vag.
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this all sounds good until you realize it's gonna be crammed into a 2 hour action movie

the first avengers worked so well because they only had to deal with 4 main characters
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>>63444434
>>63444434
>>63444461

imagine
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>>63444532
Technically, it had seven.

The directors already said Cap, Stark and Bucky are the leads. Everyone ela é is anxiliary.
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>>63443720
Callback to Iron Man acting as a mentor to him in the Ultimate universe? I also remember some of that bleeding into mainstream continuity.
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>>63443337
>Black Widow vs Ant-Man
One sided, Black Widow will win though because muh strong womyn
>Falcon vs War Machine
What the fuck, how is this a fair fight.
Falcon uses fucking uzis that don't even tickle Rhodey's armor.
Rhodey has fucking missiles and a minigun and who knows what else
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>>63444290
show some respect to your new Captain, pleb
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>>63444303
Jesus Christ.
He's going to regret that contract like 5 movies in.
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>>63444532
The first movie didn't work at all you tasteless idiot.
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>>63444194
Cap dies

but it wouldnt be permanent, for fuck sake I just want to see Iron man keeping Cap's warm corpse inside an iron man suit to preserve it and when infinity war comes and all hell breaks loose an iron man suit opens revealing a pre-serum Steve Rogers (the midget) then he wields Mjolnir
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>>63444647
Falcon is faster and more agile, though. Plus he has the Redwing drone.
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>>63443237
>The Sokovia Accords are created by Secretary of State Thaddeus Ross to legislate superhero activity and turn the Avengers into weapons
Literally ripped straight from Watchmen,
Bravo Marvelkek
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>>63444699
It literally doesn't matter that he's faster and more agile, he can't do anything against War Machine.
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>>63444744
All the things you listed about Rhodey is useless, they wont use fire power against Cap's team.. well except for Bucky, theyre really out to kill Bucky, just look at the fight between Iron man, Cap and Bucky, Tony would only aim and use his blasters on fucking Bucky
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>everyone ITT believeing ANYONE except the Ant-Man suit with Hank Pym inside it is a match for the sheer genius that is Tony Stark

Ever seen Iron Man 1? The scene when he goes to Gulmira and the terrorists are holding the natives hostage? He gives A FUCKING VOICE COMMAND and shoots them dead through automated missiles. Didn't even raise his damn hand. This time, he gets his ass beat by Cap, who punches him with his bare hands. Cap can not take a bullet, while Tony's suit deflects rockets in IM1. If this is not bullshit, then I don't know what is.

Scene in question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTqa-NEwUbs
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>>63444795
>moving goalposts
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>>63444728
>He thinks "Watchmen" came up with the government trying to control superheroes
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Do Marvel super heroes even have secret identies anyway? I can't name one who does, besides spider-man.
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>>63444899
It's pretty obvious that the Iron Man suit will be damaged/severaly weakened during the Cap and Bucky vs. Tony fight.
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>>63443237
>>63443337
D R O P P E D
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>>>/co/

Grow up
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>>63444979
THAT damaged? No fucking way.
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>>63444899
But he's not out to kill Cap....
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>>63445317
>what is shooting a super soldier in his shins and arms

He'd even recover fully in a few days
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>>63445015
Why are you on 4chan telling people to grow up if you live the life of a mature adult?
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>>63445390
Why are you falling for bait?
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>>63443237
>black widow won't be mourning bruce banners departure

Are her and him an item or are her and cap an item?

Or is she just at two bit whore who sleeps around with all of them?
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>>63443580
Except Winter Soldier is the best Marvel movie and Evans didn't need Downey
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>>63445341
>What is suit malfunction.
In the trailer we see Bucky wailing on the reactor(power source) and reaching out to pull on it. It looks like Tony isn't fully able to move the joints of the suit, and there are sparks and smoke coming out of the repulsors when he tries firing them. Something obviously isn't working as it should, because if it did he could just fly away.
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>>63445476

I think this anon might be onto something>>63444795
Bucky is upclose and personal in that scene its his best shot of killing him
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>>63445435
She and Banner were sort of an item.
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>>63444319
Or they have all the Spider-Man characters die just as a fuck you to sony.
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>>63444899
How do you know Ant-Man isn't inside of his suit fucking it up in that scene?
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>>63444899
AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A HERO? AFTER TAKING ALL THESE INNOCENT LIVES!?
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>>63443237
You have to be 18 to post on this site.
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>>63444899

>implying we need another genius character.

Scott Langley was a good way to go. Origins-wise the guy is pretty much just a good thief with no real combat experience whatsoever. He's got no superpower besides what the suit allows. He's by far the weakest character with the coolest abilities.

Having hank be a retired antman /mentor to land is easily a more interesting choice than another 'super smart genius builds suit' origins story
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>>63445584
She was a item for everyone

Iron Man 2: Item for Tony Stark
Avengers: Item for Hawkeye
Winter Soldier: Item for Steve Rogers
Age of Ultron: Item for Bruce Bannter

She is a slut.
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>>63445620
Because shit like that takes serious $$ to animate and will result in a scene that will detract the fight from iron man vs cap & bucky to iron man vs ant man, with the two serving as mere fodder.

>>63445476
tbqh the only edge bucky and cap have over tony is their shield and hand. Without those they can not win even in close combat.

>>63445731
I never implied that.
Also, it's Lang, not Langley. Langley is where the CIA HQ is.
Plis Hank Pym would have been much more awesome but they wen with scott because
>muh memes
and they already fired Edgar Wright because his script was "too serious". Same happened with Thor 2. They're gonna fuck up his powerlevel. That's the only way this film's gonna work.
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>>63445584

She's as much of an item as me and Scarjo being an item ....


I miss you Scarlet. Please come to the deadpool premier
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>>63445844
She was hardly one for Tony.
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>>63445968
Ryan pls go
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>>63445844
Can she be an item for anon?
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>>63445731
>>63444647
>>63444647
Why face him to Natasha? If he could not beat Hope... what chance does he has to ScarJo?
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>>63446028
she has tits
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>>63445968
>>63446012
>>63446025
>I will never have ScarJo, dress and make her look like BW and torture her like any female spy...

Why...?
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>>63443237
lol who the fuck cares
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>>63446063
It is a movie, not real life. Evangeline Lily is a D list actress, while Scar Jo is A list. She is going to have Scott raped.
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>>63445844
forgot pic
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>>63443337
>Scarlet Witch is a "wildcard" in the conflict due to her tortured mind and expanding powers.

>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love", and his storyline eventually intersects with Scarlet Witch's.

So what are the odds these "subplots" are like four lines of dialogue totaling about 5 minutes of screen time and feel completely worthless and out of place and are obvious excuses to get more costumes to stand around and sell toys / future movies?
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>>63446133
>it is a movie, not real life
>citing real life facts
>basing your post on them

>goalposts
>moving them
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>>63446152
Vision is gonna wear a suit.

It will be totally superflous, plus they're gonna make him a pacifist.
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>>63445934
>they already fired Edgar Wright because his script was "too serious"

No, they fired him because he dragged his feet with the project for eight years, then threw a fit when they told him to include that Peggy Carter cameo.
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>>63446297
and still used major parts from his draft without credit

also they eventually backed off when the new director came over. That peggy carter part is less than two minutes and most of it is before the title of the film.
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>>63446375
Stop defending that lazy hack, family.
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>>63443337
>Spider-Man and Ant-Man are the occasional comic relief characters because, as newcomers, they are not as emotionally involved in the conflict as the rest of the Avengers.

Literally Reddit 1 and 2: The Characters
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>>63443337
>Falcon VS. War Machine
Uhhh...
>War Machine: "Black Jarvis, lock all missiles onto Falcon."
>Black Jarvis: "Word up, homie. Missiles be lockin'."
>*Missiles fire out of a tiny little missile pod on War Machine's shoulder*
>Falcon: Oh shit, that's right. I have no way of defending myself against missiles or even gunfire. HELP ME, STEVE!
>*Several missiles hit Falcon and explode on impact. The Falcon is dead within seconds.*
>It Ain't Me starts playing through the War Machine suit.
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> people actually thinking anyone will die
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>>63447482
>Black Jarvis
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>>63446025
sure she can
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>>63447675
How do people find such shit jokes funny? Honest question, it's like this board has the sense of humour as a 12 year old.
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>>63445844
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>>63447904
What if the board has a sophisticated sense of humor, and you're tge one with the sense of humor of a 12 years old?
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>>63444647
They won't fight to death moron.
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>>63447904
say that to my face and see what happens bish
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>>63447963
>tfw he looks better than i do
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>>63447904
go be black somewhere else
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>>63443337
>>The Vision is still learning about the complexities of the human mind, particularly the meaning of "love", and his storyline eventually intersects with Scarlet Witch's.
dropped
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>>63447904
It's because it's "le epic racist joke XD".
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>>63446028
The directors have a giantess fetish and want to watch ScarJo stomping on Ant Man
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>>63448454
That's not how the suit works though. It would be the same as stomping on his chest full-sized.

>>63447482
In Winter Soldier they show Falcon evading the flak cannons on the helicarriers without a lot of trouble; he could probably shake some lock-on missiles as well. His suit is incredibly agile, and he has a lot more experience than Rhody because he actually saw live combat on a regular basis. War Machine is mostly for show, Rhody hasn't seen much fighting. He still has the advantage over Falcon, but it's not totally one-sided.
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>>63448729
This. Falcon isn't helpless.
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RIP in peace, Bucky.
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>>63448729
>>63449094

okay so he can dodge a few missiles but how can he even hurt war machine?
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>no thor

DROPPED
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MARVEL HUNGER GAMES
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>>63443237
>This is Marvel Studios' most serious movie so far.
just like AoU, Dark World and IM3?
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What would you autists prefer, Spider-Man getting his incredibly elaborate costume from the billionaire who can afford to produce it, or making it himself somehow at home?

Not to mention Tony giving him the responsibility speech is a good way for Spidey to turn on him later on once he sees Tony's hypocrisy.
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no hawkeye though
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>>63449843

He became a proper hero after hearing it from his murdered uncle. Tony doesn't know jack shit
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>>63449325
thor is overpowered
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I'm happy Zemo will be recurring
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>>63443337
>>Baron Zemo is different from the comics. He won't have his trademark uniform, "Baron Zemo" is only one of his many names, and he is in an unexpected position in the movie, and might become a recurring character in Phase 3.

what is this bullshit
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>>63443337
>>The "Splash Page" fight

my dick
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>>63444681
Not that guy but Avengers Assemble is literally the greatest film of this century.
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>>63449209
With words, Anon. With words.
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>>63450708
You sound like a DCkek.
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>>63444680
Yeah because he's so busy otherwise
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