Why even live in a world where The Walking Dead gets 20x more viewers than the LITERAL best show on tv right now?
And I'd be totally fine with it except that it seems like most anons here are part of that viewership and won't even touch The Leftovers.
I watched the first episode and it was pretty bad to be honest
>>62906235
Damon Lindelof is the reason and honestly after Prometheus, L O S T and Tomorrowland you can't blame them for being put off by it.
>>62906301
You're exactly right. I was completely offput seeing Lindelof's name when season 1 aired. I watched a couple episodes and dropped it cause I knew exactly what he would do with the show.
I picked it back up a couple weeks later and honestly I respect Lindelof so fucking much now. It's so rare to actually see a writer learn from past "mistakes" and actually evolve. The Leftovers is fucking brilliant and Lindelof has done a complete 180. He has such restraint now.
I was super satisfied with season 1 and somehow season 2 is even more brilliant. Watching this show just makes me so fucking happy.
>it is a Nora being literally perfect episode again
>>62906235
I watched the first 2 or 3 episodes then dropped a few weeks back is it really worth a second chance. Whats so great about it btw?
>>62908903
I really like the characters and how the aftermath of such an event has warped them, I mean if episode 3 with Christopher Eccleston didn't get you invested in seeing how it plays out nothing will, that was the episode that really hooked me and a lot of other people.
>>62906235
yep, that's pretty sad. the current season is literally perfect
>>62906354
I was able to drop my lindelof prejudice while watching the first episode.
Then the words "there years later" popped up on the screen.
I get what the show as going for, but three years is simply far too long for 90% of the shit they're showing, and that length of time was chosen entirely to remove any obligation on the part of lindelof to expand or explain the not-rapture, as the book was only set about a year later.
The first season takes place across the course of another year. Which is a very respectable time frame for the shit shown, as long as you ignore the 2 years of "nothing happened." So the second season starts 4 years after (which lindelof forgets in 205). The problem is the season looks like its only going to happen over the course of two months, if that, and everyone is just going completely batshit crazy out of nowhere for no good reason after four years of kinda sorta keeping it together.
>>62906301
I went into the show during season 1 knowing that I'd probably get burned by some Lindelof bullshit but just needed something to watch while my ambien kicked in. Season 1 was kinda meh, but season 2 has been really good so far, especially with their use of music.
I watched a little bit of an episode and it was some nigger talking about a bird in a box or some shit. It was unequivocally terrible.
>>62909205
I can't wait for them to play "where is my mind" while a character misunderstands an event again.
One of my favorite shows by far. Hopefully it doesn't get the axe.
>>62909225
Thanks for your worthless post.
>>62909243
Hes got a point. Dead birds = wishes was some pretty stupid shit.
>>62909137
>three years is simply far too long for 90% of the shit they're showing,
Bullshit, look how much 'Murrica changed in 3 years after 9/11. 3 years is absolutely enough time for a lot of that shit to happen. What do you think would take longer to occur?
>>62909279
No kidding, the character admits that even, judging the entire show from it? Fuck off
>>62909304
>longer
>>3 years too long
I see reading isn't your strong suit.
>>62909329
The series is filled with little nuggets of shit writing like that, though. And one's enjoyment of the series is dependent entirely upon how they either ignore or excuse the shit writing.
Who /melancholy/ here?
I can take away your pain anons. Who wants a hug?
>>62906235
I was saying this (kind of) about the first season. It was the best thing HBO had going for them since The Sopranos in my opinion. Haven't seen the second season yet. Didn't look as promising as the first. Looking forward to it still.
Also, I don't take TWD too seriously. It's entertainment. I enjoy it, but honestly wouldn't be missing too too much without it.
>its a the black guy smiles creepily while making akward threats episode
The Leftovers has its moments and so does TWD. Zombies have mass appeal. OP needs to get his elitist attitude in check.
>>62906235
>Leftovers
>good
Hi, reddit.
The Leftovers Hottie Power Rankings
1. Nora
2. Jill
3. Aimee(season 1)
4.Christine
5.Lucy(mayor lady)
6.Meg(Liv Tyler)
7.Erika(bird lady)
9000 Mary
90000. Laurie
90001. Patti
>>62909702
>1. Nora
>2. Jill
>>62909519
>it's a Nora and Jill walk around the house without bras episode
>>>62909728
You wil never wake up to see Jill and Nora nipping and wearing skimpy clothing.
>>62909547
the leftover's "zombies" is "hawt gurls maybe gettin nekkid."
>>62909765
>>62909702
>90001. Patti
What the fuck are you talking about? Even death couldn't stop her, so I'd put make her my number 1. Plus, I find her oddly hot when she puffs her smokes and probably laughs at Garvey's little dick every time he takes a piss.
>>62906235
How's this season been? Loved the flawed first season, but I've only seen one episode of this season.
>>62911111
Really good, as usual Christopher Eccleston's episode wasFANTASTIC
>>62909137
The first few years would just be everyone trying to explain wtf happened. Crazy cults pop up but their existence isn't entrenched in American life. The federal government doesn't quite get evil yet. etc. Three years is a good time to get past the immediate "wtf?" and get into the actual, long-term consequences. Which is what the show is about.
>>the quints of unity
>How's this season been?
inb4 flood of posts
>So now, they have almost all killed 20-100 zombies.
>there isn't so much of a hope for an end, as a hope for a treaty.
>I mean, it's simple really. who needs earth, or real life. Just let each of them starve.
>think about it... kill everything, let the undead die, return and repopulate?
INB4 this show is stupid cuz it's longer than 5 seasons
This season is 8-9/10 overall, but 10.000^-1.00322/10 within the shows context. But it's dull without a real endpost. Every zombie dead? every human back alive? only 200 people in any given state/country? Humanity doesn't die, it just adapts.
>>62911111
It's great. Many ways different from the first season like you've probably seen from the first episode and this season has had great character driven episodes. Literally can't wait to see a new episode every week.
The first season is fucking awful.
>>62911230
GOAT finale no matter what you thinkskink
>>62911189
>^
what is this? like greater than or less than signs but on an entirely different dimension?
>>62911230
First season taught an ol' autist like me that some people jus' can't let go of loss.
>>62911176
Homeland security was put into place a year and a month after 9/11, and it took that long because the hysteria couldn't be maintained.
4 million voters vanishing from the US would surely expedite things a great deal, and without any sort of corporeal entity to anger by expedition (read: countries with nukes, maybe), basically every barrier to legislation on the level of homeland security would be gone. So the book taking place about a year after would be a decent timeframe for people to start just start waking up from the mass hysteria and realizing their lives are in complete shambles. Two years doesn't work as well. Three years doesn't work at all.
>>62906235
The LITERAL best show on TV right now is Fargo, not The Leftovers.
>>62911299
>red sun over paradise.jpg
>le best show on TV
nice meme :^)
>>62910803
Now, Jill, please senpai :3
>>62911298
When I mean "fed government doesn't quite get evil yet," that's not "federal government hasn't legislate laws." Like any evil turn in a government, it takes time. I'm sure laws were put into place and cults in the beginning were handled in a democratic way. But S1 showed the government fucking murders people on a regular basis. That takes time before it starts happening.
Your "two/three years" thing is completely arbitrary and seems like an obsessive criticism just to criticize the show. The show is different than the book.
>>62909228
Last episode you can hear it in the background near the start,getting a little tired of that trope myself.
>>62911368
>But S1 showed the government fucking murders people on a regular basis.
That's mostly, if not all, lindelof OC.
Also the number of years has to do with how people process loss. It's three years later and people are just now burning/discarding the possessions of the departed? That's something that happens within a year or doesn't happen ever. There's tons of little niggling things that should have happened within the first 18 months, that's just now happening, for the sake of drama, etc. The entire convention sequence was just ridiculous as well, for being 3 years and some months later. Season 2 has more of this and its even more absurd (four years later I decided to join a cult for a week or two just cuz!).
All in all, everything just comes off as contrived and silly. Forced into place by someone with little to no understanding of how people actually process grief for the sake of removing any obligation to expand upon or address the premise.
>>62911566
Yes, it was Lindelof OC, and it makes sense and works. Again, the show is much better than the shitty book.
What you're saying might happen with death, but this is something worse than death. It's the simple unknown, the lack of finality.
>mfw Lindelof makes "Nora is possessed by Azrael" real and ruin the show
>>62911898
>Yes, it was Lindelof OC, and it makes sense and works.
but none of the book's content works with it.
>>62909702
>1. Nora
>2. Jill
>>62912452
right
it's
1. Nora
power gap
Jill
>>62912901
> adopts a black baby without your say
kek
>>62906296
Cos you're not smart enough to understand it
>>62911898
Point being, lindelof moved the show 2 more years after the not-rapture so as to make the rest of his OC less laughable. This makes everything else, which is a pretty concise representation of how people struggle with loss (and the fallout of their kneejerk reactions to it) a year after, look completely silly for being set 3 years after.
>>62912969
>without
not true
>black baby
hi /pol/
>Previously on The Leftovers
>>62909702
You forgot Gladys.
>>62913127
why is he always so sweaty?
>>62913188
It's his guilty remnant
>>62913188
That's how his giant penis loses bodyheat
>>62911299
>not The Knick
get outta here
>>62913127
RIP magic negro
>>62913255
lindelof seems to have a thing with killing off "magical negros" after revealing they aren't magical.
So is Michael going to bury Kevin in a box under a tree for three days to see if he wakes up?
>leftovers
LITERALLY
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>62913621
>TITLE MAKE ANON ANGRY!
lel
I watched the first season and while the show is pretty good desu senpai, I really dislike that they're not even going to attempt to explain what the fuck happened.
I get that 'in real life you don't always know why something happened' but this is fucking tv, give the viewers some idea ffs.
>>62913745
>I really dislike that they're not even going to attempt to explain what the fuck happened.
just let the mistery be lmao
>>62913745
>I really dislike that they're not even going to attempt to explain what the fuck happened.
if they try to explain it you will just get upset, same with L O S T fags
>>62913776
>>62913783
Well then FUCK THAT SHOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>62913745
When they try to go too deep in explaining, is when we get shit like dead birds and hugging Wayne's baby.
When they don't try to explain, is when we get good stuff like a guy raping his vegetable wife and crazy hobos on towers. Just listen to John, there's no magic in Miracle.
>>62914111
>implying it was rape
i really disliked that the removed the BRRRRRRMMMMMMM opening, but the new one really grew on me.
What's the point of the dead cavewoman?
>>62915913
>her tribe dies
>there is a bird
>her kid gets almost killed by a snake and she gets bitten
>there is a bird
>she eventually dies
>there is a bird
the logical conclusion is the bird is fucking her shit up.
I thought this season would have a lot more explanations for the departure and the opening was to show, its all bullshit because we are just as stupid as that cavewomen. Maybe its still coming.
>>62916290
There is literally never going to be an explanation for the departure. The author who wrote the books has explicitly said it 'will remain a mystery'.
>>62909428
please take it away from me anon.
>>62909137
did you just keep watching so you could shit post about it like the comic book guy from the simpsons?
>>62911566
what are your credentials for judging how everyone processes loss?
desu it would be different for everyone so arguing over something as relative as a span of time is not only pointless but circular.
the premise of the show was never meant to be explaining why or how the departures happened. the creators have stated this.
Everybody's wonderin' what and where
They all came from
Everybody's worryin' 'bout where they're gonna go
When the whole thing's done
>>62919009
But no one knows for certain and so it's all the same to me
I think I'll just let the mystery be
>>62916290
lindelof.
>>62918891
>it would be different for everyone
basically everything related to the human condition operates on a bellcurve, and the series operates as if the whole of humanity is just about in the middle.
Psychologist.
>>62918669
Its lindelof, so its hilariously bad. Last episode was so idiotic that I laughed for a good 20 minutes.
Hey, anon come over here and have a smoke with us!
