>As part of a scathing takedown of the debt-purchasing industry, late night comedian John Oliver forgave nearly $15 million of medical debt with a tap of a giant red button on Sunday night.
I guess he's not such a bad guy after all
>>70524270
How exactly did he do this?
>>70525997
he bought 15 millions worth of debt for 60,000 with a company they created for the sole purpose of doing just that.
The entire segment was on how easy it is to buy and sell debt and to what lengths debt buyers will go to to make a profit (stuff like calling their bosses at home and so on). It's also non astute debt meaning that you can't force a person to go to court over it but you sure as hell can harass them and their families until it's paid.
>>70525997
The debt itself was worth $60,000. It's actually not the "debt" itself, but the information of those who are responsible for the debt. The piece was about debt collectors who do this for profit.
The "debt" he bought was past the statue of limitations for collection anyways. The idea is that the collectors bully and push the debtors into paying it up, even though they don't legally have to anymore. All he really did was remove a few thousand people from a pool of possible targets for those professional collectors. Kind of a cool thing that proves a point, but nowhere near the kind of amazing thing reddit is making it out to be.
>>70526556
from my understanding, the people didn't have to pay the debt anyway.
>>70526661
they don't, but they can be harassed for it which is what these companies do. plus it still really hurts their credit and borrowing abilities.There is still some incentive to pay it back even though for most people it would be better to just live with it.
Which is why it was being sold for so little. Most people won't pay it back, a few will, and from those few they will make a huge profit.
>>70524270
based
>>70526661
not all of them, but the majority were lawfully collectable. Only a small percentage were past the statute of limitations. they're just all bundled together so the people buying don't know what is legitimate and what isn't
>you will never be rich enough to remove other people debt just for the fuck of it
/biz/ told me i would be rich if i bought ETH REEEEE
He used HBO money, not his own money.
He's a faggot and deserve to be called out.
>>70528806
>Still being this mad about the Trump and border wall episodes
Kill yourself /pol/
>>70528806
>Literally says WE not him
>you are now aware that there is a huge segment of the population that gets its political views from this 60 Minutes Lite with C- jokes mixed in show
>and is proud of it
>>70529034
People enjoy watching people that agree with them or that they can relate to on the media
Is why decent human beings enjoy his show and also why you watched garbage like Jackass
Democrats can absolve $15M in debt for only $60K.
Republicans want to build a $500B wall.
It's 2016 folks. Make the right choice this November.
>>70529034
I got my political views from Penn & Teller: Bullshit. So I am a huge autist.
>>70528961
That's no reason to be ass blasted about it.
If nothing else it was a very nice gesture since, speaking as someone who's worked with them, debt collectors are basically the scum of the earth, and anything that undermines them is a good thing.
>>70528806
>h-he made fun of Donny!
fuck this globalist cuck, I can't stand his smug idiot face.
His "jokes" are all awful though. Even the audience has to awkwardly force a chuckle most of the time.
>>70529034
>you have never been self-aware to understand you're getting political standpoints from fat neckbeards from /pol/ and act proud of it
I could understand if you were talking about maybe literally anything else. LITERALLY anything else but I've never understood the 4chan holier-than-thou attitude.
JOHN OLIVER DOES IT AGAIN
HOW IS HE SO BASED
>>70524270
15 millions is nothing, this is pure PR, HBO has already made more than 15 mills with that shit
those who donate on good intentions don't say shit
The first half of his show was unwatchable last night, just Trump attack after Trump attack for 15 minutes. The audience, who I am sure also hate Trump, even seemed to get sick of it, they just stopped laughing. It was honestly pathetic.
>>70526584
>All he really did was remove a few thousand people from a pool of possible targets for those professional collectors. Kind of a cool thing that proves a point, but nowhere near the kind of amazing thing reddit is making it out to be.
Yep. The $15 million figure is only the theoretical limit of how much money would've been earned IF they could've convinced all the people they bought information on to pay.
Either way, still a nice act to remove them from government-sanctioned harassment lists.
>>70534025
It's not like we used to love current year man and THAT was when we decided to hate him.
What if people just didn't take out loans they couldn't pay back?
>>70529034
>you are now aware there is a segment of the population that gets its political views from 4chan
>>70529219
The wall will be profitable.
>>70538037
>Medical debt
Learn to read you mong
>>70538037
That's racist
>>70529219
I'l give you four guesses who's paying for that wall.
>>70538096
And?
It's thier own fault for stuffing thier faces with garbage every day.
/pol/tards will attack him for it too
>>70538037
what if lenders weren't predatory?
>>70538241
>Predatory
What does this even mean?
>>70528344
There are laws against harassment.
>it still really hurts their credit and borrowing abilities.
As not paying money you owe should.
>>70529219
>Democrats can absolve $15M in debt for only $60K.
So why haven't they already absolved everyone of their debts then? Democrats are some of the richest people in the world.
>John Oliver forgave nearly $15 million of medical debt
And it's still not even a fraction of the amount that people like Warren Buffet and Donald Trump give to charity.
>>70529219
>Republicans want to build a $500B wall.
Not even close to that much.
And even if it WAS 500 billion dollars, it would STILL pay for itself in 5 years, considering than illegal immigration and the ills it brings costs our nation more than 100 billion dollars every year.
>>70532103
Pay your debts Jamal.
>>70534025
actually, I hate him because he implied that the displacement of native Europeans for people from africa and the middle east was not only a good thing, but absolutely necessary
>>70538448
Can you imagine if Trump had pulled a stunt like this?
>"Yeah, nice media stunt Trump, you're still a racist though."
>"We want to see a list, Donald! Show us the names of the people that got their med bills absolved!"
>"Here's how Donald Trump is lying when he says he took care of 15 million of debt"
>>70524270
>debt he bought for 60 grand
he really broke the bank there
>>70538037
Democrats declared that "racist" in the mid-90's.
Now look at the mess we're in.
>>70538443
Then debt collecting companies wouldn't get to do business. It would also show people that they can just do whatever the hell they want with regards to borrowing money or spending too much and not have to worry since someone else would make it disappear. Some people, at least, already fear the debt they would get into and try to do anything else before going for the debt option. But that would change if their debts would get bought up all the time and ignored.
>>70529034
better than people who get their political views from /pol/
>>70538497
>the wall will end all illegal immigration
I find that a bit hard to believe, it'll make it harder it wont end it.
>>70538712
So what the fuck was your point about voting democrats because they absolved 15 million in depts when you yourself admit that it's just a dumb little media stunt without any real merit to it?
>people ITT actually defending Jon "you're a racist if you don't think Europeans should have their taxes used to built mosques in their home countries" Oliver
When did /tv/ get filled with kool-aid drinking cucks?
>>70538722
pol is less retarded than current year man.
>>70538774
So long as it comes close. It worked fine in Hungary and Israel.
>>70538783
Did he actually paid for mosque?
>>70538722
Nobody expects /pol/ to be taken seriously at any place, ever.
>>70538783
a mosque is just another piece of infrastructure that can facilitate the local economy.
>>70538722
Depends. If you get your political views from mspaint "jews did it!" infographs, then yes, that's slightly worse. But most of /pol/ just links to legitimate news articles from various sources that you can always check yourself for legitimacy. It's just a hub of worldwide news stories basically.
Meanwhile John Oliver's audience believes his every word without doing any research themselves and they tend to forget that he's just a liberal talking head comedian.
>>70538037
>Be me
>Cat accident where someone else was at fault
>trip to emergency room with arm in a sling, no lasting physical damage
>hospital charges my insurance 30,000 for basically sitting in a chair to have a doctor see me for two minutes
>insurance only covers 15k
>>>hospital bills for shit I didn't do
(Dude was uninsured, he's in jail, but that doesn't help me any)
>>70539162
"Cat accident"
I hope your cat is okay
Damn, where can I buy this debt? I have no soul and it sounds like easy money if you sell it to people as you'll settle their debt for less than it is
>>70529219
the wall will need to be manned and maintained, it literally pays for itself and generates jobs
>>70538037
>loans
More ways to get in debt without taking out loans senpai.
>>70539018
mosques don't generate any income for the state you moron.
>>70538171
Yep that is the cause of every single hospital visit
>>70539239
My cat was totaled :(
>>70537909
donation was a secondary concern, his primary goal was to point out how fucking retarded the debt system in America is, that literally anyone can buy up debt and do with it what they will
>>70528806
>muh opposing political opinions which prevent me from enjoying him
T. Underage
>>70539278
Yeah, I thought the same thing.
You're telling me I can just sue hundreds of people and win each case by default and garnish ALL their wages? That sounds like the sweetest passive income ever.
>>70529219
But consider this, by building the wall and holding back illegal immigration, it will actually Benefit black communities.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-2qHRMW7284
>>70524270
but but free Health care???
>>70538722
/pol/ in the grand scheme of things are a pack of fanatics like SJWs.
Pay them no mind.
Even though I hate him and his show I can respect him for touching on this subject. The massive debt most Americans hold never gets addressed on the media. I respect him a little more I guess.
>>70539428
>be American
>get fat
>>70538497
>walls work
The fact that Americans believe this bullshit is the most mind-boggling thing to me. Mexican drug cartels literally hire professional engineers to construct tunnels across the border, which have a secondary use by human smugglers to get illegal immigrants across. Drug cartels also regularly smuggle literal tons of drugs into America AND smuggle thousands of American guns back into Mexico, what makes you think illegals don't just fucking drive in and stay here?
A wall is a waste of money that does nothing but create a few temporary jobs with no real infrastructure value, create just a minor dent in the immigration problem, and further create problems with the stagnating service industry America is facing.
>>70539424
BUT DATS RACITST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>70539351
It's like an episode of It's Always Sunny.
>>70539511
People criticize and make fun of current year man and you immediately assume they are from /po/.
>>70539593
>stagnating service industry America is facing.
robots fagot.
>>70538359
Not everyone has the choice of going into crippling debt for healthcare reasons.
>>70538722
you're the kind of nigga who walks into a prison shower with his anus pre-lubed and then slams the soap on the floor.
>>70539699
bankruptcy
How does he keep doing it?
Absolutely based.
Drumpfcucks on suicide watch
>>70539018
Mosques generate no income and pay no taxes, retard.
They work pretty well as Sharia promotion-centers, though.
>>70538651
The MSM and John Fagot Oliver needs to be ignored.
>>70539593
It seems to work well enough for Mexico. Why is Mexico allowed to have a southern wall to prevent illegal immigrants from central america to enter their country illegally, but America isn't?
>>70539350
He's dishonest and insufferable no matter your political stance, though. He bends the truth to appeal to liberals and appear greater and more virtuous than he really is.
>>70539772
>People are aware of overpopulation and are trying to slow it down
>Supporting the poor population who cannot even support their large families, which is an outdated model of thinking from rural farming
>>70539795
>stein
>>70539754
That sounds so appealing.
>>70539593
>The fact that Americans believe this bullshit is the most mind-boggling thing to me.
Why are you angry at facts?
>>70539772
lol you Dumb Nigger there are white people having babies and no the answer is not more shitskins.
>>70539823
BECAUSE MEXICANS ARE POC'S, SHITLORD. THEY CAN'T BE RACIST.
>>70539424
Or you could, you know, put that money into actual programs for communities.
>>70539910
Hungary is small as shit senpai
>>70539593
>inb4 that's a fence ;^))))))))
>>70539948
Mo money fo dem programs: the post
>>70539948
MO MONEY FER DEM PROGRAMS
Because that has worked so well so far, right?
>>70539665
>angry britain harrassing ireland
my sides
>>70539948
Did you seriously just say "We needs mo money fo dem programs!" as if that would be an actual solution to anything?
I think you mean "HBO subscribers just forgave $15M worth of debt". I really doubt he did this with his own money.
>>70538597
This post made me think about why I hate Oliver, and I think you gave me the correct words.
>not only a good thing, but absolutely necessary
I never could say exactly why 'It's the current year!' bothered me, but now I can. It's not that I disagree with him about everything (we actually share some views, or at least relatively close), or the dumb stunts he pulls like this debt thing.
It's the insistence that his way is not only the good way, but the only way. It's how he decries anyone who disagrees with his view (usually in his one-sided rants each week, which name specific people, often call for letter-writing campaigns and other tactics to put pressure on them, then he promptly moves on to the next and forgets that issue and those people entirely). It's that he cannot wrap his head around why people would come to a different conclusion that him about anything, so they must either be dangerously incompetent, or dangerously malicious.
It's that he is just as hateful and bigoted as anyone he targets, that whatever he says is absolutely necessary for the Earth to keep spinning.
>>70538497
>the loses that illegal immigration bring must be rectified immediately!!
>not the relatively larger losses from gross income inequality!!
>not the relatively larger losses from lingering institutional racism and sexism!!
>not the relatively larger losses from political rent seeking, excess lobbying and coporate influence of policy!!
>not the relatively larger losses from dishonest and illegal tax operations of big business, endorsed by the right through extremely lax financial regulations!!
>No, first we must outlay a massive expenditure on a fucking wall! Why? Because illegal immigrants are costing us money for some reason! What do you mean improved low-income support, education and social security would be immeasurably more beneficial in the long run? No YOU shut-up!
>>70540202
>not the relatively larger losses from gross income inequality!!
>not the relatively larger losses from lingering institutional racism and sexism!!
Care to quantify either of those?
>>70540202
>not the relatively larger losses from gross income inequality!!
Stopped reading right there.
"Income inequality" is just SJW speak for "I'm angry a CEO with 40 years of experience makes more money than a fry-cook".
>>70540202
>not the relatively larger losses from lingering institutional racism and sexism!!
Wow, and you wanted us to take your opinions on this shit seriously?
>>70540202
>hey guys, let's take care of all these made up fictional problems instead of taking care of this one very real problem.
>>70540202
"Low-income support" has been around since the fucking 40's.
It has YET to do more good than harm.
>>70540279
>>70540300
>>70540344
>>70540346
>I have absolutely no training in economics
Cool story dumbfucks, I'll bother arguing when you guys get published too.
>>70540202
>Instead of addressing a real problem, let's address these imaginary SJW issues I insist are more important.
>>70540202
1.The only solution to "income inequality" would bankrupt the nation.
2.Institutional racism and sexism DO NOT EXIST any longer, they are literally in violation of the goddamn constitution now.
3.Outsider money in politics is a valid complaint, but doesn't excuse the thread posed by illegal immigration. Because one problem is worse doesn't mean another isn't bad and the two have NOTHING to do with each other.
4.Muh one percent, I'd like to hear this argument expounded, it really sounds like you don't understand the issue.
>>70540412
Link to your paper.
AlsoI actually was published in an economic journal
>>70540154
>>70540069
>>70540045
Programs is a vague term dipshits. The best thing you can do IS put money into education where competent teachers can have reasonable authority over students conjucted with afterschool programs to occupy time. Throwing money at something doesn't solve issues but a lot of issues need money to be solved. It's about understanding school structure and haveing competent staffing. You also have to pull away from standardize testing and highlight critical thinking rather than memorization.
>>70540412
>SJW libshit
>accusing anyone else of "not understanding economics"
That's pretty fucking hilarious.
How many Bernie stickers do you have on your car right now?
>>70540188
This is probably the best description of why John Oliver is shitty. Bravo
>>70540482
Throwing money at schools isn't going to prevent the harm of thousands of thousands of illegal immigrants jumping the border causes.
It's a null argument.
>>70538597
>he implied that the displacement of native Europeans for people from africa and the middle east was not only a good thing, but absolutely necessary
>>70540540
This.
"Let's not solve THAT problem because there is THIS problem" is not an argument.
>>70540580
What we really need is more background checks to look at images of guns on the internet
>>70540540
That sign is shopped. I can tell by the pixels, and the fact that it would make me really sad if it was real so I want it to be shopped.
i just remember him from mock the week when he was talking about who would win in a fight between a tiger and an owl, and he said the owl because it has the high ground. so i can't take him seriously.
>>70538497
ignoring the shit where you believe a wall can actually stop illegal immigration (protip: theres already plenty of wall)....
>even if it WAS 500 billion dollars, it would STILL pay for itself in 5 years
how exactly is the wall (or preventing immigration) producing 100 billion dollars in newly taxable income each year?
>>70540540
I was responding to the argument that building a wall would benifit other communities hurr.
>>70539699
Nearly every medium to major hospital has a cost deferral system, similar to AHA, already in place. You just have to look into it.
>>70539870
>overpopulation
>Americucks
you're not even close to china population levels yet, you need to shut the fuck up with that dumb antiquated, repeatedly disproven by history, shit
>>70539593
bruv the wall will be constantly manned
and its certainly better than now where cartels just control open desert in US states
>>70540482
The US system doesn't have a money problem. It has an allocation problem as well as a students-dont-give-a-shit problem.
Look into the cost architecture of your local schools. You'll find that the administration of the school (your principal, superintendent, etc) is where all the money goes.
>>70540887
So are you deliberately ignoring the part where he was talking about Europe so your shitposting could include an America slam, or are you just not aware of the global population as a thing.
>>70540975
>overpopulation
>Eurocucks
you're not even close to china population levels yet, you need to shut the fuck up with that dumb antiquated, repeatedly disproven by history, shit
>>70540916
Students don't give a shit becuase it's a shitty school system were interest in subjects is highly dependant on the teacher you have making the best of a shitty situation.
Allocation is a huge issue as well. Bottom line is where money is needed is incredibly scarce.
>>70524270
He forgave 15 million in debt that has already destroyed credit scores and was uncollectable
It was just chauvinistic gesture with no real purpose
>>70540887
Overpopulation is a problem that must be dealt with BEFORE it's an issue. Unless you favor mass death, which is the only solution.
>>70524270
How was this stunt a takedown? How did it change anything?
>>70524270
I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE
>>70541030
it at the very least prevented potential harassment and exploitation.
I'm now a #cruzmissile
I enjoy watching his show despite disagreeing with a lot of things he says and thinking some of his comments about stuff are in poor taste because his team and him illuminate a lot of shitty systems in America, even if he doesn't have answers for what should be done, he at least reveals that something should be done.
>>70541022
Ah, the old "teacher can't teach, student can't learn' argument that's been disproved by other countries where they spend less per student yet get higher scores.
>>70540427
>income inequality, corporate influence on politics, dishonest tax practices, etc. are imaginary
Shit man your world must be dope as fuck. Shame this one is nothing like that.
>>70541086
Not really, the debt was absolutely worthless to anyone. Also the point of debt is to be harassed or held liable until it's paid back.
It's like saying you threw away arrest warrants concerning theft. Why yes it does prevent harassment however they are absolutely necessary for the system to work appropriately.
If confidentiality is the problem then pay back your debt in a timely manner or petition your state to regulate debt buying. That is all and it is pretty worthless as almost all fields in your daily life weather it's medical claims, bank cards, payments, etc actually contain all of your personal information. Everyday you transmit that data having audited health insurance claims I can guarentee you millions of people have unrestriced access due to their occupation and can view your information. Absolutely no different than debt buyers
>>70541046
first you're going to have to prove overpopulation is a real thing, and you're going to have to do a super good job of it because it's been a proposed thing for hundreds of years and used as a reason to let people die in famines. good luck.
>>70541294
>It's like saying you threw away arrest warrants concerning theft.
no it's like saying the government sold arrest warrants they didnt really care about instead of canceling them and they were passed around by bounty hunters until it landed with some mega douche like DOG and he fucked up some peoples lives for no good reason.
>>70540202
Get a load of this nigga
Oh fun fact, income and wealth for skilled labor are increasing every year.
But every year we get a million new retard immigrants that can only do a job that most of the population can do, i.e. unskilled labor
>>70541417
>For no good reason
debt collection is not a good reason? Let me tell my unforgivable student loan lender that. BRB with the results
Also are you hating on bounty hunters now?
>>70540887
overpopulation isn't a country by country problem, famalama-ding-dong. With the global economy the way it is, the entire world shares the same resources.
We're not worried about running out of land, but running out of food and water from overfishing, overfarming, and aquifer depletion.
>>70541318
The existence of famines is proof of overpopulation. When the local area cannot sustain the population = overpopulation.
Unless you're talking about GLOBAL overpopulation, which is a different discussion.
>>70541417
War Machine pls go
>>70540202
go back to the Huffington Post
>>70541507
>The existence of famines is proof of overpopulation.
there has not been a single famine ever caused by overpopulation.
>>70541507
>The existence of famines is proof of overpopulation.
what the fuck
>>70541552
You can not possibly be this sheltered
>>70541144
They spend less becuase their system isn't based off of grinding information, that and teaching is more respected in genral. "X money per student" doesnt mean anything if students are periodically taught by someone who doesn't give a shit and dont have access to counslers to give them 3rd party feedback.
>>70540482
I feel we still need standardized testing, here in Texas we had something called TAKS, in high school you had to pass them to even graduate. The amount of shit you had to know wasn't much, but still people are fucking retarded and fail, critical thinking wouldn't have helped them, the shit was basic as fuck, hell the math portion wasn't hard, basic shit covering the curriculum, thats as much critical thinking that can be needed to show you are not a retard and people in my high school still didn't pass
>>70541599
show me a single famine caused by overpopulation and i'll give you enough money to buy $15 million of medical debt.
>>70539162
>Get medical bills
>Don't pay them
I do it all the time, nobody cares
>>70541652
Ah, so the problem is not with the one teacher, it's that they don't have 3 or 4 of them!
And throwing money at it as you're suggesting doesn't fix the problem you want to address. You still have teachers grinding information.
I agree to a degree, though. Education is too focuses on getting some score at the end of the year than actual constructive thought, critical thinking and problem solving. Students are taught what to think, not how to.
But money isn't going to fix that problem, either.
>>70541659
I was thinking of unhabitable conditions, I concede that you're right, statistically poblational density concentrates where it can and the means allow
>>70541440
THANK YOU BASED WENTZ
>>70541655
We have that in cali too, i believe it's called the cashee? Critical thinking should be about mastering basics and doing excercises that encourages the use of basic critical thinking. I cant tell you the amount of students i sat next to as a senior in high school(in an ap class) who didnt understand why 5 paragraph essays were a thing and simply used that format just becuase they were told to. It's not about writing a specific format, it's about composing an argument for the sake of communicating an idea.
>>70541659
>there is no correlation between the number of famines in countries with huge populations and ones with comparatively small ones
Famines result from a population existing in an area that can't support them. This happens when the infrastructure of transporting goods is damaged (from war or disaster) and they're cut off from an area that has a surplus.
You'll claim it was governmental policy, but the fact remains all that policy did was stop shipment. If the local environment could support the population, that wouldn't be an issue.
>>70541789
It's not about having 4 teachers at once, it's about making sure you arent being glossed over on the most basic shit and put into the next classroom. If you're struggling in middle school in 7th grade math and are endagered of taking a remedial version in 8th grade, putting yourself back a year on math for the rest of your school career, you should be sat the fuck down and schools need to figure whats the issue.
This addresses another issue where Kids are CONSTANTLY being passed into next classes unprepared for the sake of a school completing stats they needed for funding.
>>70542057
Didn't read the rest of the thread or any context but why are you making posts like this in /tv/?
>>70524270
He's self-massaging his ego so later he can act arrogantly about it.
>>70542119
Politics are everywhere whenever election time comes up.
>>70541792
the important thing to take away from the "overpopulation" meme is that immigration is a form of self-regulating distribution of resources, it's the invisible hand of the market for people and nations. no nation or location has ever done worse in the long term from immigration influxes.
>>70542035
>Famines result from a population existing in an area that can't support them.
except that historically doesnt bare out at all. famines are triggered by sudden unpredictable events like natural disasters and crop die outs in a place with poor food security (places with huge populations never have poor food security because they would have a famine every week) which really means that famines are the result of poor distribution and are not related to the population count. right now we're nowhere near out population ceiling, we could make everyone as fat as americans if we wanted to.
>If the local environment could support the population, that wouldn't be an issue.
show me where the food is farmed in your city.
>>70541417
>>70541482
Alright back. They said no the debt was loaned with expected payback so therefore it has value.
I don't get these fancy words but I assume it means that the action requires payment and therefore the action has value
I don't agree with lots of the things he thinks, and I notice a lot of cherry picking and intentional fallacies he builds his argumentations from, but his govt surveillance piece is GOAT
>>70528806
>it's a /pol/ gets triggered episode
Reverse-tumblr pls go.
>>70542057
>schools need to figure whats the issue
The parents need to figure out what the issue is. It would be a school issue if it were a class-wide problem.
But like I said, just like the overall tax issue, the money is there, it's just spent in all the wrong places. Throwing MORE money at it, just like the tax issue, is just going to be more money spent in the wrong places.
>>70538443
>Democrats are some of the richest people in the world.
Wait, I thought they were supposed to be evil welfare theives.
If the debtor is in difficulty, grant him time till it is easy for him to repay. But, if ye remit it by way of charity, that is best for you if ye only knew.
—Qur'an 2:280
IT ALL MAKES SENSE!
>>70541868
yea, I don't even know how people fail the english stuff, you really read and answer questions based on the passage, i never studied and always missed two questions at most, science though, i understand that does require memorizing but I feel the the questions, I had to tutor some other people because I always did well, I would asked them the most basic shit, like why do plants do photosynthesis and they would look at me with blank stares
>>70538651
It's easy to imagine because Trump has donated to charities and was praised for it.
Nice try victim-complexing in imaginary senarios. GG
>>70539077
They link almost exclusively to Breitbart, Dailymail, The Sun and other tabloids.
They don't do shit.
>>70542524
That doesn't make sense, knew what?
>>70539823
Because Mexico isn't as desirable as the US.
>>70542548
>Trump has donated to charities
http://newsexaminer.net/politics/donald-trump-the-least-charitable-billionaire/
literally scrooge mcduck in flesh form
>>70542458
yea, when you look at shit rich vs poor, the main different is the involvement of parents, when you look at the the poor people, the parents still play a big roll on who graduates or goes to college
>>70542326
>poor food distribution
>not population count
Did you actually read what I wrote? Food doesn't need to be distributed if population was in balance with local availability. Like I said, and what you said to repeat, is that it's the distribution being cut off.
What we're disagreeing on what the problem is.
Example: For some reason, say the source feeding water to SoCal is contaminated. Millions will die from lack of water. What is the cause of their deaths, the manmade channels being disrupted or millions of people (overpopulation) living in a fucking desert where they shouldn't be? I say the latter, you say the former. We're arguing the cause.
Guy eats bad food, doesn't exercise all his life, dies of a heart attack at 45. What killed him, the heart attack or being a fat slob?
>>70542589
it's implying that bankers go to hell, the bible says the same.
>>70542646
yea I'm mexican, if they get stopped in Mexico, it's only because they are on the way to the US
>american healthcare
it does worry me that anyone with .004 cents on the dollar can buy up my debt to get my social security number. Seems like that would be a huge source of stolen identities.
>>70541125
This. The issues are good not the solutions.
>>70542458
The problem with that is that generational poverty is a bitch. Schools rely on neighborhood tax properties for funding and guess which schools end up being the shittiest? You cant rely on parents in poor neighborhoods becuase theyre ignorant. Ignorant parents raise ignorant kids and the cycle continues. Schools are really the only intervention to have a chance at properly raising a child.
I'm not saying that throwing money is the solution, i'm saying that the money being thrown doesnt get to the appropriate place so theres not point in saying "but we spend x amount on kids!" Becuase its null from the getgo. Who cares if schools have great computers if kids cant even tell the difference between a mac and pc?
>>70542694
>Did you actually read what I wrote? Food doesn't need to be distributed if population was in balance with local availability.
Did you actually read what I wrote? famine triggers can happen anywhere and if there isn't a solid distribution chain providing food security then a famine will occur.
it happens even more when some retards are in government who think overpopulation is a real thing and thus logically best addressed by allowing populations to die off and so prevent distribution... then they can point at all the people dying and say "look im right" like you are right now. but it's not right, it's murder.
>>70538301
It means they force you to take the money
>>70542800
who would want to steal your broke ass indebted identity?
he seems like a decent guy
>>70538037
t. Teenager
>>70543018
His show is comfy as fuck
>>70541539
IF they were all in the same train car, would that be called a box car?
>>70541507
is this like troll physics or something?
It's literally nothing. That debt couldn't be legally collected anyway.
>people shouldn't have to repay loans
So the alternative to loans is...free money?
I thought lefties were against bailouts?
>>70543210
It was still a nice gesture, and a television record as well.
>>70543287
That's not what is being said, try again
>>70543302
It's a fucking stupid gesture.
It's like taking a selfie of yourself tossing a quarter in a crack addicts coffee cup.
>>70543390
Too much cynicism for me desu
>>70538651
Can you imagine if the current President had pulled a stunt like this?
>This still doesn't fix the economy thoug
>Let's see those medical bills, AND we STILL want to see your birth certificate Mr. Hussein Obama
>Here's how Obama is wasting money instead of fixing the REAL debt
the point I'm making is that you could find some way to parrot the naysayers and the haters of anyone
>>70543370
What's being said?
>People take out loan
>People refuse to pay back loan
>People should not be able to seek for the loan to be repaid
What an idiotic view of the world. It's like something a 5 year old would come up with.
For the people who say the wall will pay for itself can you please explain?
>>70543302
A nice gesture would be this tombstone toothed faggot necking himself.
>>70543210
>That debt couldn't be legally collected anyway.
if it couldn't be legally collected why was it being sold to debt collectors? did you even watch the show?
>>70543477
>he is okay with third party businesses buying his personal info for pennies
>he is okay with said third parties harassing him for debts neither him nor the bank give a fuck about anymore
>all of this because fuck le current year man
>>70529110
spike jonze helped make jackass so you're a jackass
>>70543652
Basically once a collection agency has your debt, it can't be legally collected. But theres nothing stopping them from acting like you have to pay.
>>70543575
i asked earlier >>70540755 i dont think theres anyone on the other end able to respond.
the way Trumpo intends to get Mexico to pay is pretty interesting though. his idea is to threaten to make money transfers that leave the country require proof of citizenship, preventing illegal immigrants sending money out of the country. he thinks this will be enough leverage to convince the mexico government to pay a substantial amount towards the wall.
of course if they just don't and he makes good on his threat then it likely means he will spur on even more illegal immigration since there would no longer be any benefit to the families being separated.
>>70539727
Except this isn't /pol/, retard.
>>70540755
>how exactly is the wall (or preventing immigration) producing 100 billion dollars in newly taxable income each year?
It prevents a cost of 100 billion a year which we are paying now.
Instead it could go to, I don't know, schools and other programs?
>>70540887
>overpopulation isn't real
These are the kind of brain-dead dumbshits that support illegal immigration.
Fuck.
>>70544202
>It prevents a cost of 100 billion a year which we are paying now.
what costs would that be? i know it's not illegal immigrants since as non-citizens they don't get the benefits of most government programs while also paying into sales taxes and payroll taxes if they can get a good job.
>>70542668
and a good one
>>70541289
>income inequality
A bullshit made-up issue that translates to "I don't get paid enough to flip burgers".
>corporate influence on politics
Has always existed and will always exist.
>dishonest tax practices
Americans already pay some of the most excessive taxes in the Western hemisphere, and cucks like Bernie want to make them higher.
All three of these are less pressing and less easy to resolve than stopping illegal immigration.
Why do Libcucks keep deflecting when it comes to solving illegal immigration?
Oh wait, I know that answer. It's because they don't WANT to solve it and enjoy selling-out the white middle-class and the tax-payer in exchange for both ensured future votes to stay in power, and their bizarre lust to get "revenge" on whitey to assuage their White Guilt.
>>70542668
Yes, that's why people like Elon Musk donate, because they are shady as fuck and want a positive image in return. Read up on the weird shit they are funding :^)
Trump is a smart businessman but if you really base your opinions on someones charity work then I feel bad for you son because this is literally the plot of all business/sci-fi movies
>>70539886
stein literally means "stone" in German.
Just because someone is named Rosen or Stein doesn't make them jewish you moron
>>70524270
if I thought he did it because it was a nice thing to do and not to get publicity and get more exposure for his show so he could make more money I'd agree. Probably wasn't even his money but HBO's
>>70544418
>Call-in/collect white folks who are causing harm and/or breaking guidelines set by Black leadership
hmmmmmmmmm
>>70542486
Never been to Hollywood, huh?
>>70538359
Laws that aren't really enforced and debt buyers balk in the face of. At over 260,000 complaints to the gov't about debt buyers' harassment, there really isn't much being done about it.
>>70529219
Few hundred dollars and a good bankruptcy lawyer would have absolved all of that debt too
>>70544471
Last Week Tonight does stunts pretty much every episode, it's part of what makes it so fun to watch.
You don't hate fun do you?
>>70524270
I don't get it
>>70543575
Illegal immigration costs America more than 100 billion dollars each year.
Culling illegal immigration means more than 100 billion each year that can be spent on other things.
>>70544325
>State Cost Studies. The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013)
>Illegal immigration costs federal and local taxpayers $113 billion a year. That is an average cost to native-headed households of $1,117 a year.
http://www.fairus.org/issues/publications/state-cost-studies
Do some research. It isn't hard.
>>70544325
>what costs would that be?
The free medical services they often provide. Police having to respond to the crimes they commit. The list goes on.
>>70538651
Comparing politicians and late night tv hosts is literally retarded
>>70544604
John Oliver (most likely HBO) formed a company to buy resold personal debt.
Because the debt has been resold multiple times it was basically pennies on the dollar.
Spends $60,000 for $15,000,000 worth of debt.
Forgives the debt aka not going after the purchase debtors for their debt payments.
Claims that spending $60,000 is the biggest TV give away ever which is a lie.
>>70544669
>linking studies that aren't even smart enough to not include biased language in their conclusions
and i dont see where they show the income generated, they're only looking at costs, that's absolutely useless.
>>70545066
>biased language
Is another piece of SJW newspeak? Does it basically mean "stating facts"?
>>70545103
>The other choice would repeat the unfortunate decision made in 1986 to adopt an amnesty that invited continued illegal migration.
that is unquestionably bias, in a normal scientific study you try to at least do a good job of hiding that.
>>70540188
So what? It's his show you are free to disagree though.
>>70540578
he said the declining birth rates among Brits was a good reason to bring in immigrants
>banks rather sell off debts than collect it themselves
>debt collectors despite their annoyance have limited legal recourse if you fight back
well shit, time to ngaf
>>70545195
I mean, why would you be pro illegal immigration?
>>70545612
Yeah the Brits love it!
I love shit like this is never decided in a democratic position where citizens vote
why don't people just buy their own debt
>>70545766
economic benefits of new participants in the economy, economic benefits of citizenship process being done inside the country, moral/political benefit of not leaving people outside the gates in potentially hazardous situations.
>>70545983
>benefits
But per capita GDP and efficiency goes down
It literally worsens the country
And lmao at the last >muh feels shit
>>70539281
>maintenance
>paying for it to be manned
those cost more money dipbrain
>>70545674
It still hurts your credit score and will kill you in the long run if you ever want to buy property with anything besides cash
>>70545983
>moral/political benefit of not leaving people outside the gates in potentially hazardous situations
being nice is nice, but what about when being nice starts to hurt you? a lifeguard is trained not to let a drowning person drag them down.
>>70526556
Same thing Rolling Jubilee/Debt Strike has been doing for like a few years now.
>>70546074
>per capita GDP and efficiency goes down
It literally doesn't you retard because illegal immigrants aren't counted towards these statistics.
>>70546242
Except it objectively doesn't hurt you according to all peer reviewed studies. Every time a state implements stricter regulations that make it impossible for illegal immigrants to work it notes a drop in its gdp.
>>70538141
not me! have fun paying for your symbol of why the world doesn't like us, wageslaves! ahahahaha!
>>70542486
Democrats are rich.
People that vote for Democrats are poor and stupid.
>>70546074
immigration is well known to be a net benefit to economies, immigration is the best investment next to education. it's the reason why big cities are economic hubs.
if you're proposing that "illegal" immigration has these negative effects youre claiming, first i would like to see the source, second just make them legal and all of that is rectified.
>>70546242
yeah ok except it's nothing like that and politically we absolutely shit all over countries that refuse refugees and use that as leverage against them. losing the moral high ground in international politics is no way to get what you want.
>>70546429
Yeah, that's why Mississippi votes democrat, oh wait...
>>70542425
>>70539350
>>70534025
>>70528884
These posts were by me.
yes it was tongue-in-cheek. literally the joke was to surpass oprah with the biggest single giveaway in television history
>>70539823
What are you talking about?
>>70544014
what stops you from just mailing it?
>>70546553
also why is this thread reaching bump limit but this is the only post that mentions oprah?
holy fucking kek are you idiots seriously discussing solutions to educating poor people in the US(in other words niggers)? how fucking naive can you be. you might as well try to teach math to my neighbors cat, has about the same chance of success.
you can throw all the money you want to try to educate man-apes but it will never do any good. black science man is the smartest nigger we are ever gonna get most likely, and he's only half black, and an anomaly. 99 percent of black people have always been, and always will be barely functioning retards. the only solution is to keep them away from the rest of us(or you know, go the hitler route but the SJW's wouldnt let that happen)
>>70538301
It means you're trapped in a corner and they take advantage even though it makes no difference to them whether they give you a fair rate or gouge the fuck out of you except they'll be collecting money the rest of your life that amounts to a drop in the bucket for them.
