Why hasn't anyone killed this fat fuck yet? Every day I go to work having to endure book spoilers because this fat fuck decided to sell out to the HBO jews. It's the most despicable act by a writer I've ever seen, basically selling out your book readers like whores at a market to the highest bidder. I hope the fat fuck gets clogged arteries and suffers a stroke already. Piece of fucking shit.
http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/george-r-r-martin-the-rolling-stone-interview-20140423?page=4
>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
>The war that Tolkien wrote about was a war for the fate of civilization and the future of humanity, and that’s become the template. I’m not sure that it’s a good template, though. The Tolkien model led generations of fantasy writers to produce these endless series of dark lords and their evil minions who are all very ugly and wear black clothes. But the vast majority of wars throughout history are not like that.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3110466/Game-Thrones-creator-defends-rape-scenes-Author-says-dishonest-boring-leave-sexual-violence.html
>'But if you’re going to write about war, and you just want to include all the cool battles and heroes killing a lot of orcs and things like that and you don’t portray [sexual violence], then there’s something fundamentally dishonest about that.
how could one man be so based?
>>70050002
Does the fatty have any understanding of what escapism means? This whole "everything is either gritty and realistic or shit" is partly why American culture is going down the shitter.
Soon bro, soon he's going to uncuck us and infinity cuck showfags. Litterally the book will be out early next year. Mark my words.
some men have higher ideals than others
the darkness and the light do no perceive each other
>>70050184
That makes no difference since the last book is still going to take another five years, basically guaranteeing the fanfic HBO version will reach the finish line first.
>>70050242
delete this now
he's going to write really fast and cuck HBO and their jewish writere.
>>70050242
>5 years
are you literally a retard, more like 11.
>>70050002
>then there’s something fundamentally dishonest about that
Yeah, because literal, actual dragons are totally honest as far as history is concerned. Fucking idiot.
>>70050347
Not necessarily. If he stop being a faggot he might finish it in two-three years. If not then it could literally never be made.
>mfw bookfags are NEVER EVER getting The Winds of Winter
>getting a 20 year book series spoiled by a TV adaptation
this will never not be funny. Will he even live to release the next two books?
>>70049959
because murder is illegal, and everyone is eagerly awaiting his books
now kill yourself
No one's killed him yet because he's a fat fuck who is going to die in a year or two anyway. His heart has got to be on its last few thousand pumps. And he only made the show so he didn't have to finish the books. My guess is everyone correctly guessed all his little twists and surprises he had been setting up since they had half a fucking decade to speculate and now he's all but hurt about it and either A. Lost all interest in finishing the books because he's a butthurt faggot or B. Is trying to come up with different ways he can go about with his twists that no one has thought of yet.
>>70050744
I'm convinced that he's just waiting it out now, dodging fan questions and just living in his own bubble of fame and disgustingly fat food. The books are too massive for someone his age and ambition to tackle.
>>70050242
>implying he's going to live that long
>>70050002
This is just a giant load of bullshit.
He thinks he is some kind of genius and a pioneer of gritty fantasy genre? Sapkowski did it better. Howard did it much earlier. Naturalists were there first.
GRRM literally did nothing special, apart from being American and mediocore.
>>70051418
then why didn't HBO pick up their shitty work?
>>70050002
If the Others turn out to be genetic weapons gone rogue like in the show he's a fucking hypocrite
>>70051418
Witcher series is absolute trash. Please stop.
>>70050002
I CAN'T WRITE GOOD PROSE SO I'LL SHIT ON BETTER AUTHORS BECAUSE THEY DON'T MENTION TAXES AND CHILD MOLESTATION.
Bravo GURM. Nobody wants you alive.
>>70049959
I know that feel bro
>>70051811
>prose is the only thing that matters
yawn
>>70051531
HBO love tits and dicks and cum.
>>70051846
DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUN
DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
GURMcucks will defend this.
Autists are just mad he is the modern Tolkein.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhGqWcJGY
haha. there are still people that think he's going to actually release the rest of the books.
>>70050002
>What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine?
Because it's boring and irrelevant? Wow, GRRM is a idiot.
Also, unlike GRRM, Tolkien actually fought in a war. There is nothing "dishonest" about not writing about limbs being hacked off and women being brutally raped. GRRM is completely caught up in the physicality. Most of Tolkien's battle scenes deal with the thoughts of the soldiers, the mental toll the battle and the war had on them. That's the shit that stuck with Tolkien, and that's what he wrote about. GRRM has no idea what he's talking about. Why is trying to take the moral high-ground here? Fuck off.
>>70051944
can you retarded memeing fucks explain why that writing is bad?
>>70050002
What's worse is that GoT cucks will defend him to the death
>>70052128
DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN
oooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo
t. Modern Tolkein
>>70050184
>implying he has any pages
>>70050002
Professor Tolkien held 2 chairs at Oxford in Anglo-Saxon, English Literature and English Language he was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and was made Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II. He was an officer in the British army and fought at the Battle of the Somme in the Great War. His two most famous works are considered classics in the fields of Childrens and 20th Century fiction. He also worked in the fields of Academic research translating works from Middle English and contributing to the Oxford English Dictionary.
George R R Martin was briefly an instructor at Clarke College in Idaho and wrote pulp sci-fi and fantasy that was nominated for the less than prestigious and now disgraced HUGO awards for genre fiction as well as being a writer for US TV series such as Beauty and the Beast for broadcaster CBS.
He fought the flab in the Great Social Justice Internet Wars of the mid 2010's. The flab won. His only notable literary work will never be finished.
>>70052127
To be fair, GRRM admires Tolkien and has stated so numerous times. The article comes out rough but in truth, it's more that he hates how Tolkien fantasy has become de facto standard for the genre while also respecting what Tolkien did. And he's right about that. Tolkien never intended his books to be the fucking template of fantasy literature.
>>70052127
If you think Mordor sounds terrible remember Tolkien was in the real version when it was called the battle of the Psalm
>>70052297
Shame he never actually read Tolkien's work then.
>orc babies
>>70052297
>it's more that he hates how Tolkien fantasy has become de facto standard
You're totally right, I'm just extremely butthurt when people (not necessarily GRRM, more the fans of ASOIAF) bring this shit up. As if "historical accuracy" means he is a better writer.
>>70051740
This
The video games have far better writing than the actual books
>>70051889
Not that anon but what does that post have to do with his prose?
Does he use onomatopoeia in his books?
>>70049959
>>70049959
When you think about the only thing decent about his book was how he unexpectedly killed off characters.
It was more on shock value for the casuals.
Bascically people are now just tuning in to see who dies next.
>>70052465
Yes, especially in the first book. It's pretty cringeworthy.
>>70050063
second post best post
>>70052272
w/e, Tolkein is boring af as was this post
>>70049959
He will die before the book series is finished. This is obvious. There's a reason you don't see many fat people with grey hair.
>>70052465
>>70052487
>When you think about the only thing decent about his book was how he unexpectedly killed off characters.
This is the show. The books are much more than that. They're living worlds and characters. The books don't rely on shock factor as much as the show does. The books have a more melancholic touch.
Do people really complain about the rape?
What about the murder, torture, emasculation, etc?
Anybody complain about that?
>>70052487
I like how he does plots and schemes as well. His writing style is just so ugly, it's hard to immerse myself in it completely.
>>70052127
>it's a people read a GRRM quote out of context and get triggered by it
Gurm idolises Tolkein, now fuck off white knights
>>70052652
In fiction, women aren't allowed to be hurt. It's bullshit but in CURRENT YEAR, it's what it is.
>grrm is aware of all of his aurustic following
>he will 'change his mind' about fan fiction and will tell them to "finish the story themselves'
>book readers owned
>>70052128
have you read a book in your life?
>>70052690
>orc babies
He's pretending to praise Tolkien otherwise he'd get murdered in his sleep.
He doesn't give a fuck. He'd rather eat cheese-stuffed meatloaf whilst watching football.
>>70052622
>Haroooooooooooooo
>da-DA da-DA da-DAAAAAAA
>da-DAAA da-DAAA da-DA da-DA da-DAAAAAA
What did he mean by this?
>>70052737
He's being facetious to make his point, you turbo autist
>>70049959
he probly accidentally deleted all of winds of winter on his piece of shit 20 year old DOS computer while trying to clean the cheeto dust from his keyboard
thats my theory but it will literally NEVER come out
>>70052775
He's making shit up to sound smart.
>>70052622
holy shit
I love how worked up you people get get over the opinions of others.
Tolkien is the master. He did it the best and he will never be topped, ever. Only stupid people argue this.
GRRM was 6 when LotR was released. He grew up reading it, and obviously envisioned a different kind of fantasy story. It's not like he called Tolkien a hack in that interview.
tldr - you stupid fucks need to stop arguing and just enjoy both series for what they are.
>>70052622
Harooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>70052828
This.
But autists have to turn it into /v/ tier console wars bullshit. GRRM has never once claimed Tolkein was shit or that he's a better writer, yet people need to be OUTRAGED and can't possibly enjoy both
HEY LOOK HOW SMART I AM GUYS, I THINK GRRM SUCKS
>>70052828
>enjoying a series when its fanfic equivalent is being watched by every human being on the planet and that will actively spoil shit to you to brag about how cool they are for watching it.
I think that's the whole point of this thread.
Is Martin's other work as shit as Ice and Fire? Has he honestly ever written a good thing?
>>70052784
kek
>>70052712
>/got/ pools together and finish the books
>Aegon is suddenly the real Targ
>Dies valiantly saving the world from the Others
>Stannis sits the Iron Throne
>tears of joy had all around
>not one soul mourns the fat fuck who cucked them out of their ending for years
>>70052890
If you unironicly enjoy Martin's work there might be something wrong with your brain just sayin
>>70052987
Funny how /lit/ was all over ASOIAF before it became popular.
>>70052272
>He fought the flab in the Great Social Justice Internet Wars of the mid 2010's.
What's this?
>>70052946
His other works are basically shitty sci-fi B-movies in book form.
That's why nobody has every heard of them or gives a fuck about them.
>>70052726
Yeah, he was describing diarrhea
what's so bad about that?
>>70053049
Sounds better than GoT 2bh
>>70053038
Where the absolute fuck did you hear that?
Let me guess, it was here.
>>70053038
You mean the braindead part of /lit/? Oh wait, there isn't one. Nobody liked that shit and you know it
>>70053086
Not really. He recycles all his characters, including their names, and Ice and Fire basically reuses all his old ideas, but swaps sci-fi explanations with fantasy ones.
This fat fuck is LITERALLY a hack. As in he fits the real definition of the word, not /tv/'s meme definition.
>>70053178
Fuck off Preston, you're chatting shit.
Just because he named a character Lyanna in a different book doesn't mean they're the same
>>70052297
The overuse of "lol, C'thulhu" in popular culture in regards to Lovecraft is in the same ballpark as what happened with Tolkien's work. Not the same thing, but in the same ballpark.
You always have a fucking army of unimaginative nerds and their derivative works in newer fantasy novels, games, etc. Not to mention that most Tolkien fags by definition and conditioned behavior are xenophobic as fuck, as well as conditioned against anything that goes against the grain of the template Tolkien established.
Then you have the army of unimaginative nerds "added to the C'thulhu mythos" (named such by nerdbeards and other lazy "scholars" of Lovecraft's catalogue of works, not Lovecraft himself) by doing nothing but creating half-assed works centered around a being who wasn't even a fraction of interesting and powerful when put next to most other mythos beings. it's all just "lol muh cute cuttlefush dragon in sleepy weepy city XD XD"
I guess what I'm trying to say ischeck this 5
>>70052299
>Psalm
Confuses a book of the Old Testament with a battlefield.
It's Somme, you fucking retard.
>>70053225
Checked
>>70053225
checked
>>70053213
Preston loves his shitty sci-fi stories though.
>It's just like Plato guys, c'mon. G-guys?
I'm glad the time travel reveal finally broke Preston. He understands that GURM doesn't care about interesting realistic explanations behind prophecy and magic. It's just DUDE TIME TRAVEL LMAO.
Preston will lose his mind. He started talking about dragonglass being fucking computer chips. He won't recover from this.
>>70053321
Fucking savage.
>>70053329
>wants realistic explanations behind prophesy and magic
>has a problem with time travel
Literally what the fuck is wrong with you people?
>>70053460
I guess they think its too easy of a cop-put.
Time travel and 'it's magic' is always what should be expected of hacks like GRRM.
If we get Sansatits in the show, then GURM is unironically my hero.
If not, then he's a lazy hack fraud.
>>70049959
Holy shit, someone who feels exactly the way I do.
This fucking hack betrayed his loyal readers to appease to edgey teenagers who just want to see tits, gore, and cocks.
Fucking pisses the shit out of me if I think about it too much.
>>70053581
he has nothing to do with the show
>>70053637
I know, I know.
But he created the books, which created the show, which cast Sansa, which might result in sansatits.
He would be the originator of sansatits.
I've been saying for fucking YEARS now that GRRM is a disgusting fat piece of shit hack and obnoxious horsehit beard libfag nigger whose piece of shit books somehow became uber popular, and only a hndful of people listened to me. I'm glad more people are realizing what a greasy, fat and devious talentless individual he is. And yet he dares to trash-talk Tolkien. I wouldn't piss on GRRM if he was on fire.
Friendly reminder that he's been fucking people over for years. The ultimate troll.
>>70053908
Oh shit, the autist duo just released their damage control video for time travel.
https://youtu.be/hjvBiJa12sg
IT'S TRUEALL OF IT
>>70053963
link
>>70053963
>autist duo
Elio and his pet Hagraven?
>>70053954
Reminder that some people ACTUALLY BELIEVE we will ever get A Dream of Spring.
>>70049959
murder is illegal dude jbr
>>70054019
>tfw Linda will never rape you
>break during University class
>everyone talks about latest GoT episode
>"anon, don't you watch GoT?"
>Tell them I'm waiting for the next book
>conversation dies as they don't want to spoil it for me, awkward glances for the remainder of the break
thanks Fatty R.R Martin. Thanks for basically making it impossible for a book reader with an Internet connection or any activities whatsoever to avoid spoilers. Truly you are the Tolkien of our times, bending over to HBO gold and twisting half truths about the state of the book to calm your fanbase.
>>70053998
>>70052272
>Muh awards
>Muh honors
>Muh positions
>Muh research
Just because Tolkien had more medals and certificates does not automatically make him a better writer. Even if he was a professir of English literature, he didn't really deviate from archetypes of fantasy like Martin has.
>>70054016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjACPnwrK8&feature=youtu.be&a
52 fucking minutes...
>>70054264
That was kind of them.
You should have just put earphones in or something.
>>70054459
>52 minutes
Have the others not sucked GRRM's literary dick enough lately?
>>70054486
We were eating so I couldn't just leave the table. I felt autistic as fuck just breaking the conversation like that. Even told them that I didn't mind spoilers.
Feels like just yesterday I had to hold my tongue not to spoil Ned dying to showfags. Oh how the times have changed.
>>70054692
>never spoil anything for showfags at work and school
>GRRM has years, he'll get the book finished I'm sure
>the show inches closer
>Random deaths start happening 2 seasons early
I never wanted it to end up like this.
>A Dream of Spring's final chapter is a suicide note from GRRM
>he kills himself instead of finishing the series for one final death twist
>D&D do the same on the final episode of GoT to remain true to the books
>>70054459
>that introduction FFS get your words out have a coherent thought before interrupting each other god it's like rereading woiaf
>>70054414
>Tolkien didn't deviate from the archetypes that he established
GoT cucks please die
>>70052622
>ser
Um, GRRM, that's a typo. It's "sir".
>>70054932
the only ending i would accept
>>70054932
>D&D
>staying true to the books
U wot?
>>70054692
>Feels like just yesterday I had to hold my tongue not to spoil Ned dying to showfags
aww, poor baby
it's not like you had to go out of your way not to talk about the books. they're old news and nobody wanted to talk to you about them.
bookfags can fuck right off back to /lit/
>>70054414
>archetypes
yeah mind explaining where those archetypes of fantasy originated from?
>>70053790
What's your book series called, so we can see if it's better or not?
>>70050063
t. Drizzt_Do'Urden_666
>>70053731
In the books, Sweet Robinplays and tries to suck on Sansa's tits.
>>70050002
How could he say this when his books make even less sense.
Westeros should never ever have any conflict on the scale the books depict. He's a fucking retard if he thinks his stuff is more closer to real life.
Also, he'd have a better argument if his writing wasn't utter shit.
The fuck are you talking about anon? The entire literary industry is just used as an entryway to the film industry these days and dominated by failed teen books by the dozens.
>>70053225
>>70049959
I'm still pissed that Neil Gaiman (who's also a shitty writer, Sandman is only noteworthy because of the art and all of his fantasy work is basically him turning and winking like he's oh-so-clever) chewed out the fans and said "GRRM is not your bitch," when they complained about the outrageous snail's pace that GRRM writes with. I'm not even that invested in the fucking series, just all the smugness. Here I'll link it so you anons can share my anger.
http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2009/05/entitlement-issues.html
P.S. THERE'S THAT FUCKING WORD AGAIN
"ENTITLEMENT"
>>70058116
Oh jeez, authors are cunts who will defend eachother's shitty work ethic?
IMAGINE THAT
I'm never picking up and incomplete series again. I hope if GRRM dies before he finishes he's in agony for days.
>>70050002
>>70049959
You know, I'll never stop liking the world he's created in A Song of Ice & Fire, but holy shit this thread has made me hate him as a person.
Thanks for making me realize what douche he is. Also, who else fucking hates what the writers did to the fucking Dornish part of the story? I mean they had it with Oberyn, that shit certainty did the book Oberyn justice however they completely fucked the Myrcella Baratheon story. I know the show doesn't have to be EXACTLY like the book but they completely fucked that part up. Don't even get me started on how they fucked over Stannis.
>>70054414
>he didn't really deviate from archetypes of fantasy like Martin has.
This is the most amazingly stupid post I've seen today.
>>70052127
He's drinking the same koolaid as fucking Lucas.
>>70059059
They had to throw feminists a bone, so I guess they figured "hey we already fucked up Dorne as it is, let's turn it into the Tumblr power fantasy portion of the show"
>>70052297
>Admires Tolkien
>Has never read a single Tolkien book
Anon are you pretending to be retarded?
>>70052828
>Grew up reading it
>Orc babies
>Orcs raping woman
He never read LotR
>>70058116
>Gaiman is shit
>Sandman is his only good work
Well memed
>>70051740
English translation maybe, but the Hussite trilogy is flawless
>>70056091
>he doesn't write books
>therefore
>he's not allowed to say anything about it
Go shit in your mother's mouth, autist.
If i was George i would write the last books AFTER the series ended. Why?
Because the money is coming right now due to the TV show, there's no reason to work my fatass if i'm getting paid to do nothing. I'll release book 6 and 7 after the show ends so the hungry bookreading faggots can buy them.
>>70060319
This is why I haven't paid for any books or merch since ADWD came out.
>>70053954
>at least 8 years worth of writing
>the book is still shit going nowhere
>no loose ends cut off
>>70060083
literal plagiarism
>>70050063
So every form of fantasy entertainment should follow Tolkiens fantasy formula should it? Because thats what he's going after. The 'gritty' aesthetic you don't like is the fault of the TV show creators.
>>70060547
>implying Jirásek
>>70051740
The games are masterpieces, they accomplish with much more tact what Martin has spent decades trying to do.
>>70060184
Samefag much?
>>70050361
God your retarded
>>70050002
I wouldn't really take this as a serious criticism of Tolkien. It's more of an explanation of what the ASoIaF world works
>>70051531
what the same network that adapted true blood into a tv series?
Was ASOIAF really that popular before HBO picking it up?
>>70059781
It's literally canon that orcs raped Elrond's wife.
Maybe some of you autists should actually read the articles in the OP to see what he has to say, if you're capable of reading lots of words, that is...
>>70061272
By far the most popular modern fantasy book series.
>>70061738
fun fact, the second post doesn't show up by default until you expand the thread, so anyone posting from the board side is going to see an OP that's just whiny bullshit.
Thread formatting isn't that hard
>>70061791
30 here.
I honestly never heard of it until the show came out.
I read the Wheel of Time series, and a ton of old Dragonlance crap too.
>>70061936
Why autists speak as though they are conversing with themselves?
Can you run that by me again in English, and not autistic-nigger dribble?
>>70061791
>By far the most popular modern fantasy book series.
i didnt know the thread was about harry potter
also the fact that harry potter takes that award should make you realize it doesnt necessarily say anything about the quality of the books
>>70061974
Same. The pre-show threads here were the only reason I picked up the book series.
>>70049959
Well, you know OP...da books are da books, and da show is da show
>>70062407
no one should have kept liking the Series after Book 5 anyway
it was a piece of shit.
>>70049959
>Barf: I know we need the money, but...
>George RR Martin: Listen! We're not just >doing this for money!
>Barf: [Barf looks at him, raises his ears]
>George RR Martin: We're doing it for a SHIT LOAD of money!
>>70052595
Underrated post
>>70049959
the series is ruined beyond repair
>>70050002
>The war that Tolkien wrote about was a war for the fate of civilization and the future of humanity, and that’s become the template. I’m not sure that it’s a good template, though. The Tolkien model led generations of fantasy writers to produce these endless series of dark lords and their evil minions who are all very ugly and wear black clothes. But the vast majority of wars throughout history are not like that.
Says the guy whose series of books is all about a bunch of ice dark lords and their evil ice minions about to unleash a war for the fate of civilization.
Sounds like someone's butthurt that he didn't essentially create/redefine an entire genre of fiction.
>>70062868
As a whole it was the worst book but it had some shining moments. And I've read the rest might as well read the last too.
>>70063686
>>70050063
No its why fantasy as a whole its going down the shitter.
I mean you have people like sanderson that think magic is some sort of scify shit with "hard" and "soft".
http://brandonsanderson.com/sandersons-first-law/.
>>70064023
Isnt hard fantasy just alternate historical fantasy?
>>70063620
Not to mention you can just look at a House's sigil or motto to tell who is a bad guy
>>70051612
It's already confirmed that Hodor means the same thing in the books so I wouldn't have much hope.
>>70050184
>TWOW will be out before Season 6, look forward to it! -GRRM, late 2015
>Well it turns out I missed 50 deadlines I set for myself between then and now and there's still a lot of writing left to do. Expect TWOW to be out before Season 7! -GRRM Mid 2016
We'll be lucky if he's doing 'final revisions' by 2020.
You people need to find better hobbies.
>>70066154
Everything is fine until that time of year where the show comes out.
Every year there's the reminder that it's bee 5 years since the last book and the show has surpassed it.
Every year with empty promises and rumors.
I wish I'd never read them at all.
>>70066276
Why are you reading shitty books?
>>70049959
Kill him over a shit book wow. Get a life or end yours.
>>70050670
You didn't get a single good season?
>muh anyone can die in the game of thrones
Except cersei, danny and tyrion >:^)
>>70060751
you are now aware that every single witcher game has come out while waiting for one mediocre GRRM book
>>70066276
>writes books with over 1000 named characters, all having intricate family ties, political ambitions, and other complex motivations
>waits 7 years between releases so you are forced to re-read these 1000 page books in order to keep track of half the shit he's talking about
>>70053225
Admired
>>70052272
>the less than prestigious and now disgraced HUGO awards
wew lad
>>70049959
But then how will we get erotic descriptions of food they'll be eating?
>>70050184
He stated a few days ago that he writes exactly one and one-half chapters for every novel that Stephen King releases. So just count the release history of Stephen King since 2011 and cipher it against the number of chapters in your average GURM book and you'll have your target completion date.
>>70053225
It makes me said rhat we will never have great Lovecraftian films made in the 21st century. Colour out of space is fucking perfect and would look beautiful with the technology we have (not just cg, I'm talking actually blasting lights through the house and the well and shit).
Checked though. I never understood why Call is regarded as his greatest and most central work. There's so much better shit he's written.
