So, I just rewatched pic related for the first time since it came out in 2006, and I'm pretty sure it's the greatest Bond film. The action scenes were big, but not to the point of other Bond films, where it's just way too over the top. The plot actually kind of made sense too, and the poker scenes were awesome. There was real chemistry between Bond and Vesper, unlike with the women in Quantum, or Skyfall, or Spectre. Plus, Mads Mikkelsen was great but he was underutilised imo.
Thoughts?
>>62773199
it would have been good if it weren't for the ludicrous action scenes
yeah my housemates and I recently rewatched this and Quantum after seeing Spectre (which we really disliked).
Casino Royale still holds up as the best Craig film, and I'd say it's better than most of the other Bond movies (except Dr. No, Goldfinger, and From Russia with Love). [I've heard good things about OHMSS but I haven't seen it yet.] Bond is a brute, but still engages in a little bit of espionage; his relationship with M is engaging, and more genuine than Dench-Brosnan; Le Chiffre and Mr White are competent villains who don't have to rely on a hackneyed superweapon to intimidate Bond.
Quantum is probably the best-shot of the Craig films (Siena car chase is frenetic and doesn't end in a car explosion, tense opera scene, boat chase). It's literally a part II of Casino Royale, so it's best to watch it soon after the first. Bond engages in ACTUAL espionage (albeit in the least sneaky way possible) when he infiltrates the Quantum/Spectre meeting at the opera, which is way more than I can say for Skyfall or Spectre. Dominic Greene isn't particularly threatening, but he is charismatic enough to carry his scenes in the film. The airplane scene is ridiculous, and copied almost exactly for Spectre's helicopter scene. The final scene in the hotel is pretty stupid, but aesthetically pleasing.
>>62773199
It's one of, if not the best bond movie. Only contrarians disagree.
Starting with one of, if not the GOAT intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1AMUmkj-ck
>>62773199
Nah, all of Craig's Bond are mostly terrible. I admitedly have not seen Spectre yet but Skyfall was the only decent one of the bunch and kinda fucked it up with the exile on the "bond state".
Craig is just a lousy Bond. The november man was a best Bond film than any of Craigs but that's because of Brosnan's charm. Not saying Brosnan is the best Bond but he has charm... Bond needs that mojo shit, without it is just Bourne 2.0.
Heck Craig Bond even made the girls look bad. Quantum of Solace has the same lead girl that The november man and on the former the girl looks like shit. Please tell me they did not ruin Belluci, i mean... it would be hard to do so but the whole Craig's Bond could pull that off.
I hope Cavill is the next Bond and i hope he goes against Brosnan. That's the Bond movie we need.
>>62774327
Well, without giving too much away, Belluci doesn't have a big role at all. She is only in it for a couple of minutes.
>>62774327
>I hope Cavill is the next Bond and i hope he goes against Brosnan. That's the Bond movie we need.
if only anon, if only.
next bond's gonna be that black dude that people don't shut up about
>>62774452
oh, you mean this guy? if you want a Bond with charm, then Idris Elba is a pretty good choice familios
>>62774452
>>62775251
FUG OVV
>>62775251
Likely not gonna happen. But based Idris would be a goat bond. Check out Luther if you doubt the man.
>>62775470
>>62775251
I'm glad he'l never be bond because if he did all that would happen is they'd be the blandest weakest entries in the franchise and I won't have to hear "DAT NUGGAH RUINED JAMES BOND!!"
>>62775251
Just powered through every season of Luther and goddamn, is this man good. If he isn't going to be Bond, then make him some other 00-agent in the sequal.
I always feel absolutley giddy when I see people like >>62773357 who intelligently praise Quantum of Solace.
I feel like it is the least liked Bond film for all the wrong reasons. I fucking love it, and it is a very experimental and bold direction with being a direct sequel and necessary "final act" of Casino Royale.
The action is great, the script lends some great depth to Bond and it gave us the very rich airplane scene where Bond is up drinking.
>Would you like a sleeping pill?
>no.
>Pain pill?
>Heh. no.
>I have pills for everything...some make you taller...some make you forget.
It's a film about closure, and it's a necessary movie that does it's title justice just as the short story it was derived from
Also the Bond girl, Camille, has the most to work with out of any Bond girl, as not a sex object but a vessel for Bond's freedom, all coming to a head with that beautiful shot of Vesper's necklace left in the snow with the fade to black.
>>62775470
>>62775529
Yeah, Luther is great. BBC just confirmed a couple days ago that Luther is going to be back soon.
https://twitter.com/BBCOne/status/664841451382153216
>>62775693
the action is great? the fuck are you talking about. it has the worst editing of any single bond movie. theres 2 fucking cuts a second in every action scene. the only recent movie i can think of that is worse is taken 3
I just re-watched it yesterday after I saw Spectre. Definitely the best craigBond! movie, and a top tier Bond movie in general. I can't help but feel for James at the end when Vesper dies.
Also,
Casino > Skyfall > Spectre > Quantum
Prove me wrong.
>>62775693
People would have adored QoS if every Craig Bond hadn't had the exact same plot
Spectre is the QoS to Skyfall's CR anyways
>>62776096
>Casino > Skyfall > Spectre > Quantum
You pretty much hit the nail on the head, though some will say Quantum > Spectre because hating new stuff is cool.
>>62776171
>because hating new stuff is cool.
Yes, not because Quantum is a good movie and Spectre was extremely mediocre.
>>62776229
Quantum was extremely mediocre as well due to poor editing, Spectre had pacing issues out the ass. Both are deeply flawed.
>>62776229
Quantum is worse. That said I like all of the Craig movies. Like that other guy said Quantum is the necessary closure to Casino Royale.
It's pretty staggering how Skyfall and Casino Royale are GOAT while Quantum and Spectre turned out to be fucking shit. It's as if Craig's Bond films are following a Star Trek-esque pattern of inconsistency.
>>62776258
Nobody is saying Quantum is perfect but it has more going for it than Spectre in my opinion and it's completely possible to sincerely prefer it for reasons other than a knee jerk "hate new things" reaction.
It had a villian with a decent plan for one, instead of "IT WAS ME ALL ALONG JAMES, I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS MOVIE, BUT EVERYTHING YOU SAW IN THOSE OTHER BETTER MOVIES WAS ACTUALLY ME, YOUR BROTHER." The laziest writing cop out imaginable.
>>62776313
Casino Royale > Quantum > Skyfall
2bh
>>62776096
I want to cum in Eva Green's armpit.
>>62776385
what do you mean by that?
>>62776377
kill yourself Senpai
>>62773199
It was on tv a couple of days back and I saw if for the first time because I was bored. What a piece of shit. I couldn't stop laughing when his love interest dies at the end, cheesy, over the top and stupid as fuck. I mean, damn bitch, if you didn't go full harakiri there he could've saved you 12 seconds later.
>>62776313
I agree with this. Skyfall and Royale were amazing bond movies
>>62776450
There is absolutely no way you can argue that Quantum is more "meme" than Skyfall. Quantum didn't give a fuck about pleasing audiences. Skyfall was a pandering shitfest for the reddit nolan crowd. Skyfall had better cinematography but that's it's ONLY saving grace. You'd never have seen redditor Q prepped for tumblr consumption in Quantum of solace. Skyfall is when it became capeshit.
>>62773357
>Quantum is probably the best-shot of the Craig films (Siena car chase is frenetic and doesn't end in a car explosion, tense opera scene, boat chase)
Really? All that frenetic cutting and shaky cam, especially during the car chase, is fucking headache inducing.
If Casino Royale had the cinematography of Skyfall it'd be near perfect.
>>62776553
>especially during the car chase, is fucking headache inducing.
Yes, so's fighting for your life, senpai. Obviously you've never been in a life or death situation. It captures the adreneline frenzy perfectly. It's not fucking skyfall where every frame is some over designed painting, you're there getting punched in the face.
>>62776632
>implying you've been in a life or death situation
>implying you've ever left your mum's basement
>>62773199
I fucking Craig as bond, way up there for me as best bond besides Dalton. Having the cold grittiness, suave and charm that making Craig carry Bond so damn well due to his performance. From that amazing opening sequence simply set the tone of film. A realistic portrayal, making him completely believable as a killer. Casino Royale is too good.
>>62778201
I fucking love*
>>62778201
Eva is also probably the best Bond girl yet, certainly in acting ability and character and possibly in looks.
>>62778201
I fuck him too
>>62776537
> Skyfall is when it became capeshit
YES FUCKING EXACTLY. The only, and I mean only good scene in Skyfall was Shanghai. And that's because it felt the most like Casino and Quantum
>>62773199
D R O P P E D
>>62778912
bye
>>62778912
Fuckin hell
Hope she converts
>>62778912
I would be willing to drop it all to be her goy toy, even if it means cursing our children to be kikes.
>>62778994
You realize being Jewish is primarily a genetic and unchangeable aspect of your person right? Even if she left Judaism she'd still be Jewish.
>>62773199
I like QoS better. the chick was hotter in Qos than CR too
>>62779229
olga > eva in my opinion to be honest family
>>62776632
>scenes need to be displayed as confusing and incomprehensible just to beat the audience over the head about the fact that that is how the characters are feeling
Top idiot. You're the exact reason why pleb directors make the stupid decisions they do
>>62773199
>There was real chemistry between Bond and Vesper, unlike with the women in Quantum, or Skyfall
Was there any implied chemistry in those movies? He beds the agent in Quantum real quick but it's clearly just for fun, she's nothing but a minor character. The other girl isn't even a romantic interest. They just share like one kiss right?
And in Skyfall there's only Moneypenny and that other throwaway girl who's on screen for like 5 minutes. M is more of the Bond girl in that movie.
Honestly the Craig films did a good job with how Bond deals with girls after Vesper. The girl in Spectre is the first time there's been a proper Bond girl since Vesper (a major character as well as a real love interest) and once again he completely falls for her. Hoping they go OHMSS and have her die after they get married in the PTS and have the rest of the film be about revenge. Maybe then Christoph Waltz will be properly utilized and give Craig's Bond a proper final film.
>>62779791
Having them go the OHMSS route would be too much of a retread. Quantum of Solace was basically a whole movie about Bond getting even after the whole Vesper situation, and how he more or less resolved to not let anything like that happen again. It would seem odd for them to do the same thing over again
>>62779884
>how he more or less resolved to not let anything like that happen again.
Yeah but look what just happened at the end of Spectre. He's pretty much fallen in love with Madeline just like he did with Vesper. It's even implied Bond has quit (or at the very least taken leave from) MI6. Which is exactly what he did in Casino Royale before Vesper died.
Also a big reason Quantum falls flat is because it doesn't focus much on Vesper and what happened to her. The villain and his plot in that movie are dull and uninteresting. The stuff that works is Mr. White and Quantum itself which relate more directly to Casino Royale.
So if they make the next movie focus on Madeline getting killed and Bond going after Blofeld it would have the potential to work. Not to mention finally giving us the type of film we SHOULD have gotten after OHMSS (not Diamonds are Forever)
>People complain that Casino Royale is too gritty, no fun and doesn't feel enough like a Bond movie
>Spectre comes out, has actual humor, eccentric baddies, an actual Q scene, over-the-top action sequences, etc.
>People shit on it now and praise CR again
Come on /tv/ you can't have it both ways
>>62780606
>No one here praised CR until after Spectre
Nice meme, newbie.
>>62780647
>again
Try reading into details a bit more
So, does anyone else like Quantum of Solace? I thought it was decent.
>>62780781
No one ever stopped praising Casino Royale. It went down as one of the best movies among everybody but Brosnon nostalgia /v/edditors wanting "muh campy fun".
I love Casino Royale because they put audience pandering aside and just made a legitimately good film. Everything starting with Skyfall has just been marvel universe level "DUDE RECOGNIZE THIS" audience pandering. Talent goes into these movies, they get good actors and shoot them beautifully, but at the end of the day the Mendes films are Bond memes. Not films. They are like JJ abrams star trek.
>>62780830
>I thought it was decent.
Yup, it was decent. Passable. Really only works when watching it right after CR though.
>>62780904
>Everything starting with Skyfall has just been marvel universe level "DUDE RECOGNIZE THIS"
What? Skyfall only did that at the very tail end. Along with CR Skyfall is one of the LEAST stereotypical Bond films out there. Spectre was like a complete 180 though.
>>62781197
agreed,
but Skyfall is overrated
>>62781197
Yeah, I guess it doesn't stand alone too well. I love CR and QoS as a two-parter, but I'm sad neither Skyfall nor Spectre feel like good continuations afterwards.
>>62781267
Initially I thought Skyfall was great, but upon repeated viewings I find it both incredibly dry and dull as well as having some of the weakest action sequences of any Bond movies. I don't know what it is, perhaps Mendes' direction?
>>62781568
mendes created some nice visual flourishes though - the fight in the glass skyscraper and the underwater scene spring to mind
>>62773409
probably one of the most underrated bond themes, but really great. like the whole movie, it captures that vintage bond feeling, while giving it a modern twist.
>>62782476
>probably one of the most underrated bond themes
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>62782494
maybe that's just among my friends then.
>>62782524
>my friends
>>62782494
It's a pretty strong song save perhaps the verse. The chorus and main melody is strong and David Arnold utilized it well. Easily his best Bond score and proved he really was worthy of carrying the torch after Barry bowed out from the series.
Shame these last two movies have awful scores by Thomas Newman. With Mendes gone hopefully Arnold will come back, or at least someone new who can do more than just generic action movie bullshit.
>>62783345
what I mean is I find it hard to believe anyone thinks it's underrated, it's one of the most memorable songs and openings in the franchise.
>The action scenes were big, but not to the point of other Bond films, where it's just way too over the top.
But that's literally what Bond films are all about. Spectacular action, gadgets, and the women. How can you claim this is even a true Bond film when it deviates so much from its predecessors? I can understand, and welcome, the idea of breathing new life into an old franchise, but they didn't do it any justice.
>The plot actually kind of made sense too
Golly, you should hope so right?!
>and the poker scenes were awesome
This is actually the only reason today's kids liked this movie so much. The clichéd and drawn-out poker scenes which are about as entertaining to watch as paint dry are really the only thing anyone ever remembers from this mediocre film.
>>62773199
Are you French, by any chance, OP ?
Casino Royale was on tv yesterday.
Great James Bond, his love story is so sad
>>62774327
You got awful tastes, anon.
I haven't seen this in a while. I remember I enjoyed it but can't say it's the best Bond film until I watch Goldeneye.
1. Casino Royale
2. Skyfall
3. Spectre
4. Quantum of Solace
to disagree with this is to admit to faggotry.
>>62773199
it's my favorite bond movie yet.
>>62776385
>2015
>attracted to kikes
fuck outta here
>>62775693
Don't worry anon, you and I both understand QoS.
>>62776553
the cutting was annoying as fuck
it had some of my favourite individual scenes though
that whole thing with the cargo plane was so bond it hurt
>>62778566
eva is the best bond girl in terms of role
but she isn't even the hottest craig bond girl
>>62788131
I'm a hopeless goy toy, maybe that's the issue. I'm glad she's been able to do other shit, much more than other Bond Girls, because she is a better actress then most. Olga Kurlyenko tops off on the patrician list, though, because she worked with Malick.
Casino Royale is the best Bond film, next to From Russia With Love. Everything about is perfect.
>intro
>GOAT theme
>parkour chase
>2 COUNT EM 2 SEXY ASTON MARTINS
>eva green
>le chiffre
>david arnold's GOAT soundtrack
>>62785561
I really
really didnt like skyfall
although the skyscraper tussle with the other assassin was gorgeous from start to finish, that's almost literally all that I liked in that movie
Javiere Bardem was p. cool too, the speech he gave while walking from the elevator was probably one of the neatest deliveries of a villain's speech in the franchise.
Also CR has the best semen demon in all of bond, and they gave her one line.Perfect
>>62788387
You're a traitor to your country
>>62782476
Quantum's theme really does something for me, not sure why I love it so much
the video that goes with it was my favourite of any of the craig credit sequences, followed closely by Spectre's.
Spectre's actual theme did nothing for me, though. Sounded vaguely bondish, but had absolutely no hook.
Anyways, pretty much everyone agrees Casino Royale was one of the greats
Why the fuck do they refuse to bring Martin Campbell back as director?
Casino Royale also has the best Bond one-liner
>Yes, considerably
How fucking good of a way to introduce a new bond is that?
>>62788482
He's exclusively an adventure director, besides the unavoidable capeshit, maybe they thought Quantum was too dark and serious for him.
Casino was GOAT
Quantum was pretty good I thought. Kept the tone of Casino for the most part.
Then there was Skyfall which did a 180 and tended strongly towards Brosnan era which I did not like at all.
Haven't seen Spectre but as I understand it, it's more of the same. Mendes needs to get away from Bond. His action directing is some of the most bland and uninspired stuff.
Casino = Spectre > Skyfall > QoS
but thats just me
of the bond movies only the new casino royale was actually a good movie. the rest are complete shit and nonsense bores that are only watchable due to the locales
This is Great
Only issue is some of the Acting and editing
>>62779329
you are retarded mate
>pretentious, pseudo-intellectual libtards think Skyfall is the best of the Craig era
>actual Bond fans in universal agreement that Casino Royale is the best
Casino Royale >>> Skyfall >>>>>> Spectre > QoS
>>62788856
I can't believe anyone can think skyfall was any good at all, it's a generic action movie, if you didn't know the name of the protagonist was bond it wouldn't even be a james bond movie.
>>62788848
eva has an ugly face. she's just a pair of talking tits
olga is a 10/10
>>62788761
although I wouldn't say I enjoyed it as much as CR, it's nice to see someone else who thinks Spectre was one of the stronger entries in the series
Some of the exposition was clumsy, but in terms of being a good by-the-numbers bond I think it easily outdid Skyfall
Lets talk about how good Dalton is and how Goldeneye would be even better with him
>>62788962
>eva has an ugly face.
>>62775251
I have no issue with a black bond, but this dude is roger moore levels of old at this point.
and, for that matter, so is daniel craig.
>>62775693
yes quantum is great.
opera scene is the best sequence in any craig bond.
>>62780830
mathieu almaric is the best of all craig's villains.
mads is great too. bardem is a hammy joker retread, and waltz is flat-out terrible.
>>62788962
I agree with you that olga is 10/10, but there's no way I could say eva's ugly
shit's ludicrous, fem
>>62789584
agreed
although I don't think waltz played poorly
I just think making him literally say "IT WAS ME ALL ALONG" was an absurdly cruel thing for a screenwriter/director to do
>>62789038
please explain?
>>62773357
Thankyou mate, finally someone else understands QS
Who was the best Blofield
>>62789656
nah she ugly. would not bang
>>62778912
I wish I could make lil jew babies with her.
>>62789876
Telly. Donald Pleasence is who Dr. Evil is based on tho
Casino>QOS>Spectre>Skyfall
Skyfall quickly became the most overrated film just because of the pseudo Joker Dark Knight villain, it was based in London, and the fact that it made the most money.
Whoever called Skyfall a capeshit was on the money.
Haven't seen spectre yet but I will... really didn't like skyfall.
I thought it was a solid 3/5. Something about the last act was also a drastic drop in quality.
>>62790062
Skyfall was overrated because of the simplified setting and personal villain. Those are not what normies expect from James Bond, so they quickly lapped up the "ITS ART" guff.
>>62790171
The bad guy did nothing in skyfall. He was garbage-tier.
>I wanted to get caught all along
was the meme of the late 2000s, especially capeshit. GARBAGIO
>craig
>bond
>>62776349
This, how is no one pissed by this? So his adopted brother just silently becomes the criminal mastermind of the entire world and James doesn't notice cause they only see each other on thanksgiving?
>>62790189
>I wanted to get caught all along
seriously
people shit on QoS's villain for wanting to control a nations water supply
that's a legit villain scheme
what the fuck was captain "GETTING CAPTURED WAS PART OF MY PLAN" even doing
>>62790349
dumbest villain backstory of the craig bonds, easily
but taken as a whole, the movie itself still worked better for me than QoS did
>>62790441
Ehh I'm not so sure.
The beginning in Mexico was top notch, but it went downhill from there, with terrible "twist" in Franz being Blofeld and being bond's adopting brother who killed his daddy because jealous.
Also, why does this Q suddenly like making explodey gadgets and up-arming cars when we were introduced to him saying he's above that because he's a script kiddie?
What was the point of nanomachines/cyber blood when Q just had to lie in the phone when MI5 asks where bond is?
And Why try to kill bond on the train when he's just going to strand himself in the desert?
CR is the only good Craig movie, QoS, Sky, and spectre are all the same level of bad, for their own reasons.
James Bump
>>62790171
Do you know what I like?
Le Chiffre gets under bond's skin and his ego despite being a relative nobody
They write Silva as an ex MI6 agent and Blofeld as a half sibling but these just come off as forced relationships that don't really go anywhere.
>>62792662
>and Blofeld as a half sibling
rofl
kinda like in goldmember
>>62773357
didn't like Quantum but you make a great case for why it's good (very visually striking film), may have to watch it again soon.
>>62773199
It's easily the best Bond film and one of, if not THE, best action films of all time.
Anyone who says otherwise is objectively a retarded mongrel dog who was punted head-first into a heavy mining apparatus at birth and has literal shit in place of a brain.
>poker scenes were awesome
>nut flush vs. eights full vs. aces full vs. straight flush
pokerstars pls go
>>62793734
only real problem with it is iirc its against many tournaments rules to not bet the nuts. ie bond shouldnt have been able to check his nutflush after the river and let all the idiots swing into it.
how that rule is enforced, idk. slowbetting is for retards anyway.
It only occurred to me recently how much Bond loses in Casino.
>Fucks up in Africa, caught on camera getting bad PR for Britain.
>Gets girl killed because he slept with her.
>Loses the game, has to be bankrolled by Felix.
>Wrongly accuses the French guy of betraying him.
>Doesn't get Le Chiffre into custody for interrogation.
>Doesn't realise he's been conned by Vesper.
>Doesn't save Vesper.
Is a Bond who loses the key to a gret Bond movie?
Rewatched QoS lately and realize why I don't like that movie. Plot makes absolutly no sense at all and is poorly written. Mathis' dead is a joke, he dies because Bond uses him as a shield, then they get sentimental and he ends throwing him to a dumpster and not closing the door, what was the point? there are two other corpses on the floor.
Olga dirves him to the hotel, he find M and she tells olga just left. Two minutes later she picks him again right in front of the hotel.
At the very end, when the other hotel is on fire, Bond almost execute her before blowing a wall to get out. It just don't work, makes you think "motherfucker, you almost put a bullet in her head and two seconds later you are safe".
It's really bad written, but after watching Skyfall twice, turns out is more fun than that 2 and a half hours of nothing followed by a Home Alone sequel.
I didn't watched Spectre yet.
recently rewatched the new bonds and i was pleasantly surprised by casino, i remembered it less fondly but i had good fun... which cannot be said for quantum and skyfall, those are just tryhard wtf movies with zero coherence
>>62795622
QoS has the writer's strike as an excuse. And you gotta admit, with the director and Craig having to write the damn thing while filming, it's a miracle it's any good at all.
Skyfall and Spectre have no excuse. Every awkward turn in Skyfall got magnified in Spectre. I don't know what to call Mendes... Hack would be the usual term, but the franchise has had nothing but hacks and done better than this.
>>62795730
Didn't know about the strike. Why did they hired Mendes again? I thought that after the first few days, everyone understood Skyfall wasn't that good. I have heard that Spectre is a collection of Bond movies cliche, like an homage, and that's worries me, because that's how I felt watching Skyfall. Why can't all those pretentious directors make just a good movie by itself, why it always have to be the ultimate deconstruction of the character?
I hope Bellucci screen time makes it worth it. Eva, Olga and, in a less significant way, Berenice were absolutely incredible in every movie. Fuck that french dyke and her ayylmao face, Bellucci is the Bond girl I want to see.
From Russia With Love is the best Bond movie, and it's not even close. On Her Majesty's Secret Service, License to Kill, Dr. No andSkyfallare all better than Casino Royale too.
CR is good, though. Vesper is probably my pick for best Bond girl.
>>62795843
>I thought that after the first few days, everyone understood Skyfall wasn't that good.
Skyfall was extremely well received by critics and audiences and it grossed over $1 billion.
>>62778912
>Eva Green returns and sells Idrs Elba into slavery
>>62773199
Agreed. Greatest Bond film.
>Best Film with the character of Bond in it
Casino Royale
>Best Bond Film
From Russia with Love
>Best Bond Song
Live and Let Die
>Best Actor to Play Bond
Craig
>Best Bond
Connery
>Best Gun Barrel Sequence
Brosnan
>Best Bond Girl
Sophie Marceau
>Best Bond Villain
Joseph Wiseman
>Personal favourite
Licence to Kill
1. Casino Royale
2. From Russia with Love
3. Dr. No
4. Licence to Kill
5. GoldenEye
6. Goldfinger
7. The World Is Not Enough
8. Skyfall
9. The Living Daylights
10. The Man with the Golden Gun
11. Live and Let Die
12. A View to a Kill
13. Quantum of Solace
14. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
15. Octopussy
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. Diamonds Are Forever
18. The Spy Who Loved Me
19. Spectre
20. For Your Eyes Only
21. Die Another Day
22. Moonraker
23. Thunderball
24. You Only Live Twice
10/10 -
9/10 -
Casino Royale
8/10 -
Dr. No, From Russia with Love, License to Kill
7/10 -
Goldfinger, Live and Let Die, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Living Daylights, Goldeneye, The World Is Not Enough, Skyfall
6/10 -
On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Diamonds are Forever, A View to a Kill, The Spy Who Loved Me, Octopussy, Tomorrow Never Dies, Quantum of Solace
5/10 -
Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, Die Another Day, Spectre
4/10 -
3/10 -
2/10 -
1/10 -
0/10 -
Best Theme Music:
10. All Time High - Rita Coolidge - Octopussy
9. Die Another Day - Madonna - Die Another Day
8. Nobody Does it Better - Carly Simon - The Spy Who Loved Me
7. Another Way to Die - Alicia Keys & Jack White - Quantum of Solace
6. A View to a Kill - Duran Duran - A View to a Kill
5. Skyfall - Adele - Skyfall
4. You Know My Name - Chris Cornell - Casino Royale
3. Goldfinger - Shirley Bassey - Goldfinger
2. The World is Not Enough - Garbage - The World Is Not Enough
1. Live and Let Die - Paul McCartney & Wings - Live and Let Die
>>62795904
compared to CR and QoS?
somebody said a few days after release "we thought it was good because it's better than QoS, but it's not THAT good". I just felt like he raped my mind.
>>62795843
You're just setting yourself up for disappointment fixating on Bellucci.
I was okay with the homages in Skyfall, it was the 50th anniversary after all. Spectre shows that it's basically all Mendes knows how to do, and in a very cold inorganic way. CR has homages peppered throughout but the movie never stops to focus on them.
Serious consideration has to be given to Deakins role now. This isn't the first time I've seen a director wet the bed with a movie after he left. I'm convinced he's doing more behind the scenes than just lighting.
>>62795869
I don't remember a single scene from Russia and never watchd Majesty, but
>DRNo
>License
>Skyfall
>Better than Casino
>>62783976
>as entertaining to watch as paint dry
>still one of the most remembered scenes
and how would that make sense you faggot?
>>62789584
>mathieu almaric
that bugeyed ugly motherfucker is shit
>>62795930
>Best Bond Film
>From Russia with Love
I don't get it. It's not a Bond film to start with. Goldfinger is the first Bond movie, before that it's just a movie woth a character named Bond.
>Best Bond Song
>Live and Let Die
memes aside, Skyfall is a perfect Bond song
>Best Bond Girl
>Sophie Marceau
Eva is too fucking beautifull in CR. Not even close
>>62795622
>>62795730
no QoS has the excuse the rights to Spectre and Blofeld were took right under them and they had to rewrote the script which is why its shit
thats why White is even in Spectre
thats why Qos and Sp are so similar
>>62795951
>CR has homages peppered throughout but the movie never stops to focus on them.
true. Compare the Aston Martin presentation in CR and in Skyfall.
>>62795951
>You're just setting yourself up for disappointment fixating on Bellucci.
fuck this planet
>>62796011
>the rights to Spectre and Blofeld were took right under them
how's that?
>>62795998
>From Russia with Love is not a Bond film
What, to you, defines a Bond film? FRwL had his briefcase with all the gadgets inside it. It's got a great Bond song, it's got one of the best Bond girls, the villain has the poison dagger in her shoe.
It's totally Bond.
I agree with your other two points.
>>62773409
>only intro without bizare shit and naked women
>it's the best
who would have thought
>>62796061
As I said in other post, can't remember Russia for shit. But is like a consensus that Bond movies started with Goldfinger. I have to rewatch it, I guess
>>62794474
this is complete bullshit. the rule you're talking about in live tournaments only applies if you are the last to act on the river, are holding the absolute nuts, and your last play would close the action (either check or call).
there is nothing against slowplaying. the whole point of the rule is to stop collusion, i.e. minimizing losses for you and your partner.
>slowbetting is for retards anyway.
when you finally get that chance of moving up from 2NL you'd realize that slowplaying does play an important role in poker. it's all situational though.
not defending the retarded poker scene in CR, just pointing out that you have absolutely no idea about what you're talking about.
Fuck Craig Bond movies.
>there are people who don't like the cheesy shit or goofy gadgets.
Get the fuck out of my theater.
>>62796125
You must've creamed so much during Die Another Day
>>62775251
seriously im racist as fuck and i still think this guy is the best candidate
>>62775251
It's not that idris elba isn't a great actor and would play a good bond, but bond IS NOT black ffs. Not even going to start spewing racist shit or anything, it's just how it is. Bond isn't black, asian, arab or whatever, he's a supposed to be a thorough white british man who went to oxford.
Skyfall was outright bad and javier bardem was a total miscast (wtf were they thinking casting him tbqh?) and spectre was meh because waltz sucked ass. Why did spectre have to try and surpass all the other films in terms of who is the baddest villain? In quantum it's established there's a shadow super organization behind most things in the world, but the spectre comes and tries to be the super organization that is behind quantum and silva in skyfall. It's just eh really.
>>62797602
The sooner you completely stop replying to posts like that, the sooner they will die down
>>62797602
>he's a supposed to be a thorough white british man who went to oxford.
I'm not sure if this denegrates your point, but couldn't a black man go to oxford and be thoroughly british?
>>62790861
>What was the point of nanomachines/cyber blood when Q just had to lie in the phone when MI5 asks where bond is?
speaking of cyber blood
the machine was exactly the same as what was used in Casino Royale, and served the exact same purpose too
yet... no acknowledgement whatsoever of this by bond?
>>62792662
this movie/tv-show thing where everybody has to have some weird link to the protagonist's past is the most annoying thing ever
>>62773199
>complete lack of Q
>best bond movie
"no"
>>62797602
>>62798133
>Be British
>Be mixed race (tfw you'll never trace your heritage back to the Normans)
>Better spoken than many white people I meet
>Pretensions of class
Race isn't considered to be a denominator of class any longer; in the way that one could be certain that a blackman in the 60s was both an immigrant and working class (who, mind you, came from colonies of the Empire).
Many of the coloured people in Britain are now second or third generation (British enough to shit the Queen) and some have made their way to the upper-middle class; there's a considerable number of Indian people at public schools.
In short, Bond is inextricably British but there are British people who are black and Asian and Arab.
A black Bond (I'm a firm supporter of Elba but an Asian Bond would be equally interesting - take, for instance, Amir Khan the boxer, in terms of looks) would be like a recognition of these people as equally British.
Also, Bond attended uni in Geneva but didn't do much more than climb mountains. :^)
>>62798703
Uhh a black bond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoAAXT3NUWc
Name 5 black action heroes. That shit just doesn't sell like those Finn action figures littering toy shelves. Like Kingsman the Secret Service was a big hit in South Korea because of the upper class whiteness of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badgLd0Sjz8
I quite liked Spectre desu
Prefer Casino though as the goat
>It was Smee, James!
>>62799255
was Mamen involved at all?
Or was he just a redherring?
>>62799318
It's "a redder ring."
>>62798917
Take a look at Channel 4's Complicit with Oyelowo for a black spy. It's entirely different in tone from Bond, mind you, grounded in realism, but an interesting watch.
I'm not claiming by any means that a black Bond would gross as well internationally. Cinema-goers in developing countries prefer white protagonists for God knows what reason. Perhaps it's because they associate whites and the west with affluence, or live in societies that are still very homogeneous and prejudiced, or the ubiquity of white standards of beauty, or a quarter millennium of cultural (and actual) imperialism. South Korean tailoring is so excellent for, perhaps, the same reason so it's not all bad.
Those things, however, won't change until the films do.
>muh cultural marxism
>>62773357
This guy is right on the money about Casino Royale.
I haven't seen Quantum since the theatres though and it was a bit of a disappointment at that time. Might give it a rewatch.
I think the problem they're having as they go on through the series is that they've made Bond 'too' physically capable such that we can't see any villain being able to actually best Bond physically. I haven't seen Spectre but in the first two movies they've made 'intellectual' villains, and the third villain though ruthless we could definitely see Bond be able to dispatch easily in a 1 on 1 brawl. The first one worked because it was the first one that introduced us to Bond's brawn, so it was more impressive. But it'd be interesting to see a villain that Bond couldn't physically overpower in a fair fight.
>>62799255why exactly did he kill his father? I found it hard to work out what this guy was trying to do and his motives and shit. especially that torture scene with the drilling. also how did that place blow up?
>>62799429
The place blew up because James shot a gas main and there were a lot of gas tanks in the area as well as general electronics shit
He killed his father because he was autistic and some vague psychopathic reasoning because his dad liked James which pissed him off. I don't really get what he was trying to do either, his master plan just seemed to be getting in James' way and fucking with him as much as possible.
>>62799512
yeah I thought it had something to do with the gas tank he blew up
it was just weird though, he shot that tank then much later the rest of the place just seems to blows up at once.
Just watched Spectre
That one take (?) opening scene is great
But the villain was really not good or threatening at all
The plot was kinda meh or whatever.
Some set pieces like the crater reminded me of Moonraker.Is this a prequel to Thunderball?
If so are we getting a reboot or something with more blofield?
>>62789422
>>62796220
>bastardizing James Bond because ITS CURRENT YEAR
>a good thing
You can't be serious?
>>62799690
I'm betting all my money on a return for Blofeld, as this whole movie was more or less buildup to justify him as Bond's new endgame(IT WAS ME JAMES was ridiculous, but it put him in a certain position as übervillain, so they have to use his character somehow again)
Bond can't be black just like Shaft or Axel Foley can't be white.
End of story.
Fassbender is the best Bond candidate.
>>62800372
Shaft's race is an integral part of his character.
Bond's race is not.
If white Bond: Hardy.
>>62800372
>>62800972
Solid choices. Bale would also work.
>>62800972
Bond's race is an integral part of his character just like Shaft's race is an integral part of his character.
>>62774327
Literally the most boring guy. Henry Cavill, seriously?
>>62801403
James Bond is a suave, handsome spy that works for MI6. He has refined tastes, travels around the world, beds beautiful women. Throughout the years, the actor that plays him has changed as well as the era of the film. A character that could be played by a man of any race.
Shaft is a genre-defining Blaxploitation film. Titular clue. Produced during a time of racial tension in a country where race was and still is a tremendous issue, following the conventions of a genre that features black protagonists and black characters for a black audience. Race being so important that were the race of a character changed, it would be absurd.
https://youtu.be/ULdm2NLrN4E?t=142
>>62798133
>>62797602
>>62797676
>>62798703
>>62775251
>a spy to move through any crowd on earth unrecognized
>black dude
yeah cause its not like hed stick out like a sore thumb or anything
>>62804839
why did you quote my post in >>62797676 you twit, my post isn't defending elba being cast as Bond, it's literally calling out the shitheads that keep posting it as ignorant trolls.
>>62802942
>named James Bond
Because he's Scot, and because culture still means something.
>handsome and beds beautiful women
In other words, he can't be black. Idris "Black"
Elba agrees.
The actor that played Shaft has changed too over the years, btw. Unless you didn't realize because all black guys look alike to you.
>>62802942
I agree with you. Next thing that should be done is a Fat Albert movie with Jonah Hill.
>>62804895
>named James Bond because he's Scot
Fleming added Bond's Scottish ancestry to the character after Connery's casting. I've been reading the books: Five deep and there's no mention of the Scotch apart from Bond's maid in From Russia with Love.
Bond takes his name from the author of an ornithological text which Fleming chose because it was English and innocuous.
>and because his culture still means something
Race and culture are not the same thing. A white man raised in Japan is Japanese. A black man raised in England is English.
>The actor that played Shaft has changed too over the years, btw
Not really, mate. Shaft's been played by two actors. Roundtree in the 70's; 27 years later, Samuel L. Jackson.
A black actor playing Bond doesn't mean a change in the character's culture, merely a change in the colour of his skin.
there are no coloured people in the British peerage?
>The prospective son of the heir to the Marquis of Bath will have a half-Nigerian mother.
>tinyurl com p7z6gju
>>62775366
Looks the part but Cavill is dull and wooden. God willing, The Man from UNCLE proved to everyone concerned in the decision what an awful choice he'd be.
>>62804839
>Implying a white man wouldn't appear out of place in any continent other than Europe, North America, parts of South America, Oceania and South Africa.
In addition to appearing inconspicuous in these, he would fit in in Africa, India and parts of the Arab world.
>Implying historically does much swilling about in crowds
In Craig films, Bond's only interaction in a crowd environment is running through them - doing which one would be apparent regardless.
