Don't you think they look tired?
Last time >>62750780
>>62764051
No, Ashildr called him out and he admitted he made up the bit about the thing draining him and maybe not having enough energy to be immortal.
>Ashildr: Is he immortal now?
>The Doctor: Do you want him to be?
>Ashildr: I don't think I want anyone to be.
>The Doctor: Well, probably not. Probably the power would have been drained by the whole opening and reversing the portal thingy. There'll be enough power to bring him... back, but not enough power to keep him here. Probably.
>Ashildr: Did you just make all of that up?
>The Doctor: Yeah... But it's hard to keep track of all this... stuff. Keep an eye on him though. He might be around for a while. Or not. Who can say?
>>62764254
No, more like he is but "he's not as smart as you, he's obviously a bit daft, was or will continue to be a thief which will put him under a guillotine someday, so look after him so that doesn't happen"
how do i____the classic series?
>>62764418
Offer to take it out to dinner. Something light, a nice wine perhaps.
>>62764476
lmao
>>62764182
>He might be around for a while. Or not. Who can say?
He might be immortal, he might not.
>>62764030
Shona best companion!
>>62764030
I loved the Van Gogh episode. Is there any other in which they visit a well known celebrity? Like Tesla or Einstein?
>>62766080
They visited Shakespeare in series 3 if you didn't watch that yet
>>62766080
Charles Dickens in the Unquiet dead.
Madame de Pompadour in the Girl in the Fireplace
>>62766120
new season 3 or old season 3? I didn't watch season 3 yet, I only watched season 5 and half season 6.
>>62766080
Agatha Christie in the Unicorn and the Wasp
>>62766080
Robin Hood in Series 8
>>62766273
Nuwho, with Martha
Getting real tired of this guitar playing meme. It makes me cringe every time they make him do it. It's not cool but it's also not adorably lame like the Doctor often is.
>>62767104
>>62767104
>It's not cool but it's also not adorably lame like the Doctor often is.
So, not like a hybrid?
>>62767140
It's just cringeworthy. But it's clearly supposed to look cool.
Matt Smith and the fez was "haha what a goofball." But Capaldi angsting around with his guitar is just awkward.
>>62767277
>Matt Smith and the fez was "haha what a goofball."
That shit was pure unadulterated cringe m8, not "goofball"
>>62764418
please respondseriously though
>>62767277
Fuck off cunt. I'm sure there is facebook groups who will help jerk you off over how shit guitar and glasses are.
/who/ will not die! Do you hear me? I will not let this perish. I will not!
>>62768192
on behalf of the rest of /tv/, 4chan, and the internet... you're shit, this general is shit, and so are all the posters in it. kindly fuck off and die.
>>62768249
>getting so buttmad and edgy you come into a general you hate just to tell them to fuck off
Wow
Mummy on the Orient Express and Flatline are some fantastic episodes.
>>62768390
Too bad Girl Who Died was subpar.
Why Mathieson wasn't given the two-parter slot all to himself is baffling.
>>62768416
This is going to sound so dumb but the main reason I dislike maisie wililams is the fact that her face is so compressed-looking.
>>62768416
Come on m8, it has a gigantic Brian Blessed-esque Odin who appears in the sky like God in Monty Python and drinks testosterone and is actually a lamprey alien. It's brilliant. Also Maisie does a great job with her dual role, even if Woman Who Lives is weak in places.
>Finally get around to Sleeping episode
>It's actually pretty decent the way it plays on cameras/watching etc.
>Oh shit that's a pretty cool ciff hanger, what could they possibly do next?
>Next Time
>It's a 'Clara drags around a black underachiever from school into boring ass fantasy/sci fi' episode
Fuck
>>62767385
Watch them in year order.
>>62768932
>Liking Sleep No More
>>62767137
>forgets the slashes
I think we have found the true Redditor.
There are 3 episodes left and The Doctor hasn't even worn his new red coat yet
>>62769366
>Caring how a random anon punctuates their posts on a Mongolian Doctor Who Hate Forum.
>>62769627
No, If you're linking to boards, the slashes are necessary otherwise it won't work.
>>>/tv/
>>>tv
If you miss them out, you just look like an idiot, even if you're linking to something that isn't a board here, such as reddit.
>>62769627
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>>62769741
Thankyou wise one. Can you explain to be more things about your great website?
Just one spoiler.
The almost people.
Time's moving. Time's moohving!
How can this board take itself seriously when it has a Doctor Who general? Not even baiting, I don't get how the same board that will go apeshit with reddit/tumblr McCarthyism allows a tumblr show general.
I know many people will disagree with this, but I think the show has lacked a proper zany, fun, colourful runaround since at least Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, possibly even Stolen Earth.
Episodes these days seem to be very desaturated and dark and while I love that look I'm not sure it's working for a family show like Doctor Who, especially when it's not being broken up by anything more colourful and fun.
There also seems to be a lot more standing around these days. Not just since Peter Capaldi took over, but the Matt Smith stories generally seemed to be lengthy conversations in single (fairly dark) rooms.
I miss the days of (particularly) fun, wacky series openers that just served as a reminder of how much FUN the show could be.
I know it's incredibly superficial, but RTD's episodes would break up the talky bits with a bit of running about through colourful sets. It just felt more... eventful and, well, FUN.
We just seem to have week after week of "the Doctor arrives. He talks to the villain for half an hour without moving anywhere. The episode ends."
I MISS all the running around! The show just feels a little joyless at the moment. Possibly also because the supporting characters just seem to be there as victims. Their lives are saved by the Doctor, but they're no longer enhanced by having met him.
Anyway, I'll sit back and let people call me "hater" now.
>>62769878
I totally agree. The show's becoming less entertaining and more edgy shit for teens. Also: No more comfy.
>>62769788
I suggest you lurk fucking more m8
>>62768932
Gatiss has a sequel planned, glad I'm not the only one who thinks it'll be good.
>>62769791
are you saying the gangers are coming back?
>>62769878
You hit the nail on the head. Fuck series 9 and Moffat.
>>62769986
What else do you suggest senpai?
>>62770150
Stop posting
>>62769878
To me the show just doesn't flow the way they used to,episodes feel like a disjointed collection of vaguely connected moment. Some of the moments are good, some a proper shit and a few are utterly retarded but they just don't gel together for me.
>>62770164
I don't even know if I can finish this episode.....
Fuck found footage.
>>62770216
It's not even good found footage.
It keeps switching cameras making sure everyone is always in perfect frameand then it uses things that aren't cameras.eyes
>>62769878
Robot Of Sherwood was a fun runaround. There hasn't been one in series 9 though, I agree.
>>62769878
I think you're trying to make two separate arguments here:
One, that you think that the episodes in Moffat's era have been too dark. I can understand why you would make that claim about Capaldi's seasons (and even then, wasn't "Robot of Sherwood" fun enough?), but not about Smith's.
Two, that RTD was better than Moffat at making the episodes move at a steady pace. And I sort of agree with that. RTD was really great at keeping things pacy. Look at "Partners in Crime": the first half or so of the episode is mostly just Donna and the Doctor investigating and trying to figure things out, but RTD makes it extremely lively by cross-cutting and juxtaposing the Doctor's scenes with Donna's.
The first time I watched "Human Nature", it stroke me as being a slow-paced episode, but it was only slow-paced in comparison with the rest of the season surrounding it. It would feel just right in Series 9.
>>62770240
ayy lmao the dust is watching us
>>62770216
that effect when he rubbed his eye at the end was neat....
Why does it always have to be a nigger though ffs
ayyyyy bby r u sci-fi cos i'd pardon yu
>>62770309
Gatiss needs to write more like Robot of Sherwood. I get that he's a fan of horror and everything, but he can't really write it very well. Campy romps, on the other hand, he's good at.
>>62770735
stupidest line ever
>>62770801
Blasphemy.
My grandmother doesn't understand the new Doctor Who eoisode. I don't think I do either. What should I tell her? I don't get the ending.
>>62771006
The guy died and was rebuilt from dust.
The electronic signal used in the morpheus is done on purpose to fuck people up, the electronic signal is implanted in the episode to fuck up the viewer and turn them into dust.
I think
>>62771029
>the electronic signal is implanted in the episode to fuck up the viewer and turn them into dust
I got THAT at least. Even with the rest of your post I feel like I'm not getting something. Maybe it was just poor writing.
>>62771048
http://www.forbes.com/sites/reehines/2015/11/14/doctor-who-recap-season-9-episode-9-sleep-no-more-mr-sandman-bring-me-a-scream/
try giving that a read
>>62771006
Everything we saw was part of a scripted sequence of events planned by Rasmussen, the doctor just happened to land on the set and become part of the action.
All we know is that there's some kind of entity that infects, consumes and takes over it's host where upon it gains shape shifting abilities. Just like The Thing really.
Whether the monsters are eye boogers or the morpheus machine created them is up for debate. I don't think they were/are though it's a misdirection on Rasmussen's part to stop people figuring out what they really are.
Sleep No More got the lowest AI in a while, a 78
>>62771689
I'm not surprised, it's weird as shit and has an unhappy ending. The fucking casual ass pelbies they use for the AI ratings don't like that kind of unconventional stuff
>>62771796
Problem is, the episode was still shit despite that
>>62771843
It's not though.
That episode was the worst episode since pavement blowjobs. It was like a low-budget advert for a free-to-play Crystal Maze mobile game.
>>62771862
It was nothing more than a generic horror episode that failed miserably to scare or mind-fuck anyone with the final twist.
![Richard-Obrien[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/hPPrY0i.gif "Richard-Obrien[1].gif")
>>62771899
>Crystal Maze anything
As long as Richard O'Brien is involved you can sign me up
>>62771990
I DEMAND TO KNOW WHY HE HASN'T HAD A ROLE IN DOCTOR WHO YET?
Bring back RTD.
>>62772034
He would be too good for the show's standards
>>62769878
>copying posts from GB
>>62770319
>RTD was really great at keeping things pacy.
Literally nothing happens in RTD stories.
>>62771949
You mean it failed to scare you, seeing as you're not everyone.
>>62766080
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Celebrity_Historical
This isn't all of them, the wiki doesn't have all episodes yet.
Apparently this episode has lowest AI since L&M.
Gattiss on suicide watch.
>>62772301
Have the critics shat on it too?
>>62771113
As some detractor put it, if you are going to make an episode where not making sense is part of dastardly plan, you shouldn't have show that didn't make sense for several past years.
>There's an engrossing mystery at the heart of Sleep No More that kept us on the edge of our seats to the end of the episode and beyond. The dark heart of this enigma: how in God's name does Mark Gatiss keep getting invited back to write Doctor Who?
Based Androzani reviews
>>62772176
>he actually thought it was 3spoopy5him
>>62772657
all of them are plotless
>>62772770
yes
>>62772788
yes m8
>>62772806
no m80
>>62773138
At least he knows not everyone liked it so he can improve the sequel.
474 is my gruntfu.
>>62773138
them ass licking fanboys in his comments though
>>62772301
Oh... damn. Still he'll be back next year with a funny romp. I guess Moffat's going to want to scrap Sleep No More's sequel. But thank you, Gatiss! You just torpedoed your chances to be the next showrunner.
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/new-doctor-who-spinoff-the-gallifrey-chronicles-announced-41537.htm
>>62773615
nice try m8
>mfw the after all the shit with the grunt dying to save him, the one soldier just walks into a dark room, screams and is now dead.
>>62773138
add this to the list of times doctor who was ruined forever
>>62773778
>implying anyone edits the wiki anymore
>>62773789
fine I'll do it.
>>62773138
>criticism
>vile
Fucking luvvie.
>>62772301
>That episode was the worst episode since pavement blowjobs.
Quoting myself. It seems the general public agrees with me.
>>62773836
>Quoting myself
?The??!?!? IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII EAT YOUR OREOS
Some Classic Who serials are up on Netflix. Should I just watch what they have in order or does /who/ have a recommendation?
>>62773877
I don't understand what you meme.
>>62773879
What serials do they have?
>>62773879
They don't have a very big selection. But if you're gonna watch something watch from there Curse Of Fenric.
>>62773879
Start with Tom Baker then jump around.
>Sleep No More sequel
>Takes place on the desolate remains of Triton after the Sandmen had absorbed 99% of the population
>The doctor must help the view survivors escape this apocalypse
How hype would you be?
>>62773952
>view
reading campaign
it's a bit dense isn't it
>>62773879
>>62773952
Why wasn't it just a two-parter?
>>62774107
because face the raven is going to be better and goat
Just woke up, had a pretty GOAT dream where Jack was supposed to be executed by some guys with guns, but in true Jack fashion he put on his own blindfold and apologized to the people supposed to shoot him saying it's all muscle memory at this point.
When a dude tries to shoot him in the head, Jack goes action hero, attacks the guy by grabbing at his gun arm, breaks the arm, takes the gun, proceeds to shoot all the other guys before they can even react, Jack then walks away taking the blindfold off
>>62773952
Literally zero hype, as I am for every episode.
and for the survivors, it'd be good if they were some of the "rejects" of society or comprised of at least some people with problems. People who are blind, people who have ADHD, people with short attention spans in general, drug users who wouldn't have access to the video or care to watch. Along with people in general who don't like watching those kinds of videos that have death for one reason or another.
And so the Doctor has a much less than ideal group of people he has to lead and get to do stuff
>>62774120
>because face the raven is going to be better and goat
Oh my fucking sides. Please take a trip for the live thread, and just for the live thread.
>>62774210
insomniacs m8
>>62774228
what?
>>62774310
Take a trip for the live thread so I can get some schadenfreude.
>>62774349
Anyone that stricks around /who/ for live threads is more of a masochist than a sadist.
>>62773836
>quoting yourself
is this reddit? are you euphoric?
>>62774278
insomniacs still microsleep, they usually just don't notice, they'd still be fucked
>>62774453
Sleep alone doesn't create the sandmen, it was the signal sent from the Morpheus machines and later the video. Without it the sleep dust is just dust.
why aren't there pictures of Clara in this thread?
why turn dr who in to a general if you're not even going to post Clara?
>>62774923
because clara is worst companion?
It feels weird to be currently viewing the worst NuWho series. Is this how people felt during Series 2? This bleak emptyness, this crushing disappointment? This fucking sucks. I just want it to be over and done with.
>>62775028
>>62775054
season 9 is probably one of/if not the worst Newho series
even 8 was better
>>62775028
Series 2 was smug, cheesy, puerile soap opera shite. What we've got now is so bland and forgettable its hard for me to get worked up over.
>>62775054
>opening two parter is massively disappointing
>under the lake good but is ruined by the clusterfuck that is before the flood
>both Maisie eps just massively dog shit tier
>zygon episodes are alright, inversion is pretty great
>gatiss episode is a love and Monsters tier disaster, receive lowest critical ratings in a long time
The next three episodes would have to be absolutely GOAT to salvage this shit fest. Even series 2 had GitF and the Satan two parter. Series 9 has no GOATs so far, ranging from disappointingly mediocre to downright shit.
>>62771113
>Whether the monsters are eye boogers or the morpheus machine created them is up for debate
No, the monsters are eye boogers AND made by the Morpheus machine.
Please stop trying to justify the episode by saying none of it was real. All of it was real, exactly as laid out. The ONLY THING that didn't make sense to the Doctor was the idea of spores.
There were two things he didn't figure out:
1. Rasmussen is a Sandman
2. The video was the real plan all along
If the Doctor had figured out those two things he would have made sense of everything.
>>62775028
>series 2
>series 3
>series 4
>series 6
>series 7
are all worse than 9
>>62775028
I have fond memories of series 2. Though I didn't watch it live.
But I feel that series 9 is not fun at all.
>>62775143
its not b8 if its true
>>62775198
>Even series 2 had GitF and the Satan two parter.
those were shit though
Afternoon /who/! Now that the dust has settled what did /who/ think of sleep no more by mark gatiss? I have yet to see it.
I hope /who/ is making their amazon wish lists! I can't hardly wait to the 25th. It's going to be hard not to run through my budget that day. So exciting!
Rewatched 'End of Time' and talked about it with a friend recently, especially how good Wilf was as a character.
In response to >>62769878, I do concur somewhat, and we agreed Wilf represents non-meme-clever-clogs shit that Moffat loved, but instead just a lovely human character.
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>>62775238
it was meh
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>>62775203
>>62772176
The ending would have been spooky if it had been more subtle. Making it like 10 minutes of the Sandman standing in front of the camera and falling apart while repeating himself over and over and going "RAAAAR BE SPOOKED!" ruined the effect of what they were going for. They did what Doctor Who always does these days: They spent 3 times as long as necessary on a scene that overexplained everything twice as much as anyone needed. If they'd tightened up the scene and left out some of the repetitive exposition it would have been FAR more effective.
>>62769878
I disagree. We had plenty of fun in series 8.
>>62775228
>>62775238
when will /who/ secret santa start? /toy/ sign up finished last week.
>>62773669
He was pulled into a Morpheus pod. If there's a sequel I bet he'll be in it. But yeah, it was anticlimactic as fuck.
>>62775238
I'm in the minority but I thought it was great, I loved the twist ending. Always nice to see a story where the Doctor doesn't win in the end
>>62775319
Wait until the on season plebs leave. The people that stick around when the season isn't airing are the /who/ regulars
>>62775256
I miss RTD for his characters. He was really good at making a varied cast of characters that felt real and who interacted in interesting ways. Moffat's characters are all the fucking same and just act as plot devices.
>>62771899
>>62773836
>pavement blowjobs
Oh god I've just realised
>>62775272
Fair enough, though I suppose no one really had high expectations.
>>62775319
I think anon suggested we start novemeber 25 and continue to 31 december. I'm not sure if ever a consensus was made. We should probably do a poll or something.
>>62775331
That kinda piques my interest a bit. the doctor not winning.
>>62775369
Well that would hardly be a secret santa/giftmas thing if we wait...McGann chin? I suppose id rather a /who/ regular than a casual gifts. Though there's a nagging in my head that says it doesnt really matter.
>>62775415
only wilf and jack were good though
>>62773836
What is wrong with you? Is it autism?
>>62775469
I'd rather Mickey over I literally can't even remember his name that's how forgettable a character he is you know the one clala's boyfriend who dies and is a soldier or some shit
>>62775507
Danny Pink was indeed shit.
>>62775507
I'd rather Mickey over Danny, but Rory > Mickey.
>>62775256
This is because Wilf was played by THE Bernard Cribbins, not by some shitty half rate comedian. RTD knew how to write for The Cribbins
>>62775238
Well, I hated it the first time round and the second made me go "Hmm, I may have been too hasty there." It reminds me a bit of Ghost Light, weird as hell but there's ideas in there somewhere.
>>62775435
We can do it on the 25th.
I'm already working on another christmas card for this year. Should I post it now or save it for later?
>>62775565
>RTD knew how to write for The Cribbins
Completely right - I noticed RTD wrote Wilf's military history to be LITERALLY THE SAME as Cribbins in my rewatch
Secret Santa Poll
http://strawpoll.me/6022643
>>62775435
I just think secret Santa would be ruined if a bunch of on season casuals threw their wish lists in the mix hoping to get some free stuff without giving back
>>62775469
What about Harriet Jones? RTD knew Moffat wouldn't do justice to his characters so that's why he killed them off or made them disappear in S4
>>62775617
>RTD wrote Wilf's military history to be LITERALLY THE SAME as Cribbins in my rewatch
wha?
>>62775538
Mickey had enough self-respect to abandon his bitchy girlfriend and dedicate himself to greater cause.
Rory is an annoying faggot who submits his life to abuse, entitled bitch.
>>62775653
In The Writer's Tale and commentaries, RTD talks about how he asked Cribbins what his war history was, and wrote that into Wilfs character to make it genuine
>>62775648
harriet jones got kicked out of office
>>62775686
This.
Him putting up with Amy's shit was the worst.
When I think about it, Amy was the worst companion.
>>62775648
I do enjoy the throwbacks to Harriet Jones - "yes we know who you are." I held the belief for sometime that she didn't actually die in S4 finale because based Jones.
>>62775653
Wilf's military history is outlined in The End of Time:
>never killed a guy
>1948 Paras service in Palestine (he says this on the Ventrossi [sic] ship)
This is Cribbins war record.
>>62775565
>not by some shitty half rate comedian.
Who?
>>62775727
amy was bad after s5 but rose is worse desu
>>62775748
I expect he's referring to Catherine Tate.
>>62775748
Ingrid Oliver
>>62775813
Oh I see.
>>62775604
It doesn't matter to me when. I've just got "money" burning a hole in my "pocket" and im trying to stay festive even though we probably wont decorate this year as we don't know if we'll be in the same place for the holiday. I'm not the right person to ask about the photoshop. I'm the kind of person that would open all my gifts early given the chance, depsite knowing how wrong it is. Your season shops are like a gift in a way, so of course id want it now.
>>62775645
That concerns me too. I know there was a lot of stuff purchased last year, and only a handful of people remain or at least claim to have received a gift last year.
I'd send every /who/ poster a christmas card if I could despite how prolific a poster they may or may not be.
>>62775202
>>62775202
How do you know that m8? I thought it was ambiguous seeing as Rasmussen said the whole thing was staged to keep people watching his video
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-who/interviews/a774209/jenna-coleman-opens-up-about-quitting-doctor-who-and-clara-surprising-exit/
I hate to be that guy, but does anyone know where I can find a torrent of the last couple of Jago and Litefoot releases?
I would have bought them but I've put off purchasing anything from big finish until they stop delaying the shit I've already given them money for.
>>62775835
i didn't make a list last year because i thought it was a joke. I didn't actually think people on 4chan would buy things for a random stranger. I shitposted at it and called it sad and pathetic. It was actually really nice. I'm sorry.
Think we'll ever get another historical companion on tv?
This secret santa stuff is only limited to doctor who stuff right? is it only on amazon? Can we put Big Finish stuff on there?
Don't you feel Moffat is cannibalizing RTD at his point. Over the last two series, we got concerned boyfriend of companion who doesn't like sharing his gf with Doctor and mopey Jack Harkness.
>>62776244i thought ashildr was interesting
>>62776292
I don't feel exploring what would happen if something that never happens happen was interesting. She wasn't all bad, but she was basically doing what Harkness was doing except with more Alzheimer.
>>62776292
you did what what now
>>62776108
I don't know much about the series, but it looks like audiobook bay has series 8 and 9, not sure if those are the latest but it's something.
>>62776331
>if something that never happens happen
what?
>>62776371
Thanks, I was really looking for 10 and the new one with Strax though.
That's what I get for not buying them I guess.
>>62775835
not gonna post it but heres a teaser
be gentle
>>62776420
Nobody's immortal, so it's really just empty fantasies about what would happen.
>>62776425
Don't worry, they will probably be up in a few weeks.
>>62776544
Doctor Who is a show of empty fantasies about what would happen
>>62776544
Isn't that kind of a weird thing to say about a time travel show?
>>62776117
Oh i hated you, you made me physically angry a couple of times and made my poor old dog do work. shame on you anon.it's ok i still <3 you
>>62776132
It would be great to see capaldi with another scot wouldnt it? IIRC at one point Clara was going to be the victorian splinter version who got picked up and traveled with the doctor as opposed to the modern day version. I'd like to see it again. The wonder and awe at the "future/modern day" confusion over colloquialisms etc.
>>62776156
Our amazon wish list isn't just doctor who stuff, but we didn't always share our list exclusively with /who/.Belle would camwhore occasionally for shits and grins.An anon last year requested a dvd bootleg copy of fear her, surely a joke but who nose. As for big finish, you could request but im not sure as to the logistics or how that would work.
>>62776244
Why not? He's been cannibalizing his own work for years. He went to the girl meeting the doctor young, growing up idolizing and schlicking to him etc.
>>62776440
The pert makes me hurt.
>>62776589
Time travel here is an excuse for having fun and Maisie's character (God help me I can't spell her name) just isn't fun. Jack was dying like Kenny and didn't give a fuck, having a blast, he was fun.
>>62768512
Oh I totally agree. Girl looks like a child with down's.
>>62776625
I don't really get what you mean. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
>"I'm Clara Oswald, and I save people. Run. Run you clever boy, and remember me."
>>62769878
>I miss the days of (particularly) fun, wacky series openers that just served as a reminder of how much FUN the show could be.
I think it's just a Capaldi thing. Matt Smith had ton of wacky openers even as late as Clara. Remember the motorcycle?
>>62776685
nah
>>62776652
What I initially meant is that question "What if a person was immortal" is not terribly interesting by itself. And pushing it to forefront seemed dull.
>>62776687
None of them were as funny as RTD's openers. I just hope Moffat takes our criticism into account and makes a fun series next year.
>>62776717
>our
that was cppied from GB though
>>62776717
>I just hope Moffat takes our criticism into account and makes a fun series next year.
To endure even longer sequence of riding a tank playing guitar? No, sir, thank you.
I'll still never forgive Moffat for depriving us of a "Last" Doctor. The idea of a Doctor who was now on his last regeneration had so much story potential. Does he begin to have fears of risking himself? Because if he dies trying to save just one person, that's it. Game over.
They'd be able to market it so much, even if they did have a plan to keep the show going. But no. Moffat had to be greedy and take the story for himself because he knew he'd likely be gone by the time that happened.
Like, why waste it there? Everyone knew Matt Smith wasn't the last Doctor, it was retarded to pull the "Oh here's two other regenerations that totally counted now Matt Smith is the last doctor but we aren't gonna reveal that until his final episode where you know he's gonna become Peter Capaldi anyway!".
From a business standpoint I fully understand finding a loophole to make the series go forever. I just don't understand why'd you waste it at such a pointless time where the audience doesn't care, and for many don't even realise that Capaldi is meant to be the "first" Doctor.
>The Doctor has a deep green, crushed velvet coat with blue interior lining in Series 10
>There is a new, smaller console room
>The Doctor is more cynical and introverted than his previous two series, and now has a catchphrase.
>A new sonic screwdriver will debut in the 2015 Christmas special
>The new companion is currently a major character in a popular British soap opera
>>62776839
are you joking?
>>62776772
No. I genuinely dislike series 9 overall.
>>62776785
That wasn't funny. I don't want that ever again.
>>62776875
you copied that post from GB. why are you lying?
>>62776875
But that's what Moffat's idea of Doctor Who comedy currently is.
>>62776893
I'm not OP if that's what you're talking about.
>>62776905
Yes. That's why I said I hope he takes our criticism into account and changes everything to go back to Series 4/5 fun adventures.
>>62776717
funny doesn't equal a good episode though
RTD openers may have had some funny moments but as episodes they weren't very good or interesting.
>the narrator explained his entire plan to the camera
>it still feels confusing as hell
Why?
>>62776839
>don't even realise that Capaldi is meant to be the "first" Doctor.
wat
>>62776950
i apologize then. the original OP was a GB post.
>>62776998
As far as i'm aware, and i'm not baiting here, the script was dramatically changed mid-way through shoot at the request of Peter Capaldi who refused to film until it was "fixed". That's why the ending feels rushed and out of place.
>>62776425
I'd recommend checking that site every once in a while, they are usually pretty good at getting newer Big Finish stuff up, although it sometimes takes a few weeks. Definitely the best place to get individual releases, not that great if you are looking for older stuff or a collection.
>>62769878
> I think the show has lacked a proper zany, fun, colourful runaround since at least Dinosaurs on a Spaceship
Season 7A was full of episodes like that. And they were shit. Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and A Town Call Mercy were camp in the worst way, and unoriginal about it.
>>62776998
Because the episode is so boring it's hard to concentrate.
Also, his explaination basically summarized that episode doesn't make sense because dastardly plan.
>>62777067
7B as well. Which was also shit.
>>62776954
Well of course it doesn't mean it will be good but coming from Moffat I expect something good. And looking back, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, The Unicorn and the Wasp (though the writer will never write for the show ever again) and others were funny romps in the middle of an arc. And they were miles better than Fear Her or Love and Monsters which weren't funny.
The fun episodes didn't have to make much sense, just show that once in a while the Doctor and Clara have fun adventures with happy endings. We don't get that anymore. It just looks like they come into a situation, somehow make it worse and make it end on a bad note.
Also, I'd take a light hearted fun episode with a weak plot than a dark episode with a weak plot. At least it'd be funny.
>>62777046
There is an unconfirmed twitter post about him leaving the set on one day and saying those words which could have been about any part of the production most likely a technical problem.
I just read a chapter where Ian and Barbara are reimagined as incestuous siblings who discover crucified men in the Tardis, so Barbara jerks them off and then they fuck while she stares at them.
And to think, BBC Books turned this one down?
>>62777111
I think it's because the dark and "scary" episodes are more marketable to the Hot Topic/tumblr fangirls who are buying a grip of merch.
>>62777030
Capaldi is the first Doctor of a brand new regeneration cycle.
So for all intents and purposes he's the First Doctor again. Obviously I'm not saying he's supposed to be the William Hartnell Doctor, but he's not the "12th" Doctor.
>>62776860
What did I say that was wrong? Moffat denied the audience an actual final regeneration, because he needed to try and force some sense of drama into Matt Smiths final episode, which was retarded because we all knew he wasn't the last Doctor.
>>62776839
Sounds tedious and boring. I'm glad he skipped it.
>>62777194
The BBC would never create the illusion of the show ending. A new doctor would have been cast well ahead of any story about the final regeneration for simple marketing reasons.
>>62774848
Insomniacs wouldn't not have a reason to look or watch the video, in fact if anything insomniacs since they have nothing better to do would watch the video.
They'd probably even be amongst the top people to use the Morpheus anyway
>>62777264
I'm more annoyed about the story potential that was squandered.
Obviously we'd know the show would continue somehow, but the suspense would be in how it'd be pulled off. Matt Smith suddenly going "Oh btw I'm the last Doctor lol" in the middle of his final episode added nothing to the story.
>>62777218
- not person you just replied to btw
I agree with you only because Moffat hammered the 'doctor will die' into the ground. I do think that the Doctor on his last incarnation would've been a good idea though.
Would he want to revisit old friends?
Deal with old enemies one last time?
How would he get a new set?
The sort of thing I'm thinking of is a mature version the character, sort like the things 7 got up to.
>>62777148
No, those are Alan and Ida Mortimer from the Sixties novella "Doctor Who and the Invasion from Space".
A bit of knowledge about the Expanded Universe and rejected ideas for the TV show from the Sixties helps when reading Campaign.
>>62777328
Eh I've had enough stories about the Doctors own personal melodrama and struggling with his identity.
>>62776859
Source? Or just b8?
>>62775836
The staged portions were him waiting in the sleep pod like he had been hiding from the Sandmen, and him revealing his fake plan of spreading "spores" on Triton. And obviously the video that he had already begun making, which the Doctor believed was his alibi but was actually the way he intended to spread the Morpheus signal to make more people turn into Sandmen. Did you even watch the episode? It was all very plainly laid out.
>>62777305
Of course that makes sense, but the person I replied to said the be fucked for microsleeping even if they don't notice it. That's not how the sandmen work. It's not all sleep, just sleep induced by the Morpheus signals.
>>62776859
>A new Sonic screwdriver
Good. Sonic Glasses are retareded.
>>62777401
its b8
>>62777431
why?
>>62777487
Because the practicality of using sunglasses to activate/deactivate/analysis things is very limited.
>>62777424
But wouldn't you need sleep anyway considering you're only getting the signal? I figured you'd still need to sleep for the thing to get triggered.
Not like the signal through the video puts you into a 5 minute or whatever sleep like the Morpheus thing does.
>>62776839
I absolutely agree with you.
I just hope that the show will get to do that plot one day. After all, we don't know how many regenerations he has left now.
So how's the season going? Good? Bad? Shit?
Can we take a moment to reflect on how shit "Sleep No More" is as an episode title?
I would've called it either "Bring Me A Dream", "The Corner of Your Eye", "Mr Sandman" or simply "Morpheus".
>>62777399
Not that anon, but what he's describing isn't melodrama or struggling with identity, it's facing mortality. Like when you're a kid and you do all kinds of stupid shit that might get you hurt or killed, but you don't care because you're not thinking that far ahead. Then you get older and start recognizing your mortality and start saying, "I'm not going to do that, it might get me hurt or killed!" Imagine if the Doctor had to deal with that -- the idea that the next death would be final. I think what lets the Doctor be so haphazard all the time is that he knows if he dies he'll just come back, but if he didn't have that to fall back on he might react to situations differently. Suddenly the survival instincts kick in and he has to actually be afraid sometimes like a human because if he dies that's it.
>>62777621
Better than 7 and 8, but this show never has a consistently good season.
"Sleep No More" had quite a bit of potential, so it's a shame at just how poorly it appeared to be handled.
Many of the elements, such as the 'Found Footage', curing sleep and Alien Isolation type investigation all could work well.
Then they just sorta fucked it.
>>62777564
The signal is what induces sleep.
>"The pod sends out a coded electronic signal that acts on certain parts of the brain. Changes the fundamental chemistry."
It's the altering of the brain chemistry that mimics the benefits of a months worth of sleep, I would imagine a process like that would put one to sleep.
Regardless, it's still sleep following the signal that causes the sandmen, not all sleep as that one anon seemingly suggested.
>>62777564
The 5 minutes of sleep is just what happens while Morpheus fucks with your brain. They say many times that what it's actually doing is altering brain chemistry. Rasmussen figured out a way to make the same alterations with video signals. But since he couldn't have people watching the video be sleeping, he couldn't just do it for 5 minutes straight or people would turn it off. So he staggered the signals throughout a longer video with an engrossing narrative to insure people would watch all of it and get every signal into their brains to complete the alteration process.
