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Texans of /trv/, I'm relocating to your state next year!

What are your thoughts on Austin vs Dallas vs San Antonio vs Houston regarding livability?

I'm leaning towards Austin based on what I've gathered so far.
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>>1128064
grew up in dallas, live in austin now, been to all 4 multiple times

austin is the best out of the 4. Houston might offer better jobs
>oil
>logistics

but austin has way cooler scenes IMO than the other.

SA can be cool, but it's big, vacant and pretty stupid.

HOU is massive and fucked and smoggy

DAL has a very pretentious DT, but has really cool arts districts and bars (they all do, but i spent a lot of my youth here)

AUS has kind of mixes of all of them, including the totally fucked traffic. you can see a lot of things changing - for better and worse. Most liberal for sure.

>either way you are moving to texas, home of bigot fucking redneck idiots, but there are some really cool places in those cities.
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>>1128064
San Antonio is shit Houston is Sweet. Austin is good too
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>>1128064
I live in Austin.

Ask me questions.
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Austin
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>>1128064
Austin... until you realize that you just moved to a Texas college football town that is full of a bunch of racist frat boys.
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I visited Austin a few times from Houston and I gotta say Austin is way cooler, despite having less money in it for art and music.

After finally leaving Houston in a week after living here for 2 years, I am unashamed to admit that I'm glad I'm escaping. It's too big and spread out, the drivers are all fucking morons, and if you work outside like I do, the summer is an unbelievably hot and sweaty death trap. Not even Afghanistan was as horrible as Houston in terms of the weather.

I advise Austin.
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>>1128663
Are you implying Austin isn't just as hot as Houston? Because it is, although it's probably slightly less humid based on the average rainfall data. But it's still in the 90's and 100's every day during the summer.
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>>1128783
humididty makes the heat way worse, also, austin is full of pretentious assholes, but is nice none the less
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>>1128783
>But it's still in the 90's and 100's every day during the summer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling
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>>1128886
Sure, about 90 degrees your liquid oxygen will start to boil, but what of it?
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>>1128908
Your climate sucks, that's what of it faggot.
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>>1128919
:(
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I honestly keep forgetting that San Antonio even exists.
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>>1128783
Houston heat is far different than any other kind of heat. The only comparable thing I can think of would be a rainforest. One of my co-workers who was in vietnam says that it's almost as bad in Houston as it was in the jungles he was in.
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>>1129052
Houston is steamy. That is the worst kind of hot. People who have never experienced both just don't understand. 100 in a desert is more comfortable than 85 in a humid climate.
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>>1129064
not steamy, humid, your body can't sweat because of the moisture, makes you feel way hotter
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>>1128543
>being so much of a limp-wristed cuck that even Austin isn't leftist enough for you
You have to go back
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Dallas is the most bland city in the United States. Live there if you have absolutely no taste
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Different anon here considering relocating to Austin. Are there very many outdoor activities like hiking, fishing, ect to do near the city?
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>>1129231
lots of nice hiking trails
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>>1128064
Austin is more expensive to live in and Jobs are harder to get there unless you have a 4 year degree or higher in an applicable field. San Antonio has lower Rent.

>>1128300
>either way you are moving to texas, home of bigot fucking redneck idiots

every state has bigoted rednecks and contrary to popular belief Texas is actually very very tolerable to others. Unless youre a muslim that tries to commit jihad we will destroy you be cause we have guns
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>>1129199
>im le enlightened alt-right contrarian sperglord
>everything i say is true because muh peelitical incurryctness makes everything true >:D>:D
>therefore frats aren't real and niether are racists

Ok bud. You are obviously a truly independent thinker. So glad to see you could share your shitpost with us. I'll just share a little something though.

http://www.kvue.com/news/local/sae-students-and-ut-respond-to-racist-allegations_20160425093128368/152585371
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/2016/03/29/ut-students-in-racially-motivated-assault-appeal-university-disciplinary-process
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>>1129199
Pathetic, reduced to a 5yo
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>>1129249
Oh no, you mean to say that frat boys did something stupid? Perhaps even criminal and racist? Do tell.
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>>1128064
just go to San Antonio all the other places are filled with niggers
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Live out in West Texas and be all no country for old men OP. I have some relatives not far from Terlingua, and it's a starkly beautiful part of the country.
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Floridian here visiting Texas for the first time, here are some impressions-

>San Antonio
Kinda shabby and run down looking, everyone seemed kinda poor or in the military. Not an awful city, I'm sure theres some cool stuff there since its a sizable city but you probably have to know where to find it. People were friendly though, lots of nice working class whites and Mexicans. Riverwalk was cool as a tourist but I can see it definitely getting old if you lived there.

>Pedernales State Park
Awbsolutely gorgeous, hill country is amazing. The river current in the swimming area is fast as FUCK and full of big ass rocks that were fun to climb on, I wonder how many kids and drunken idiots drown there a year, probably alot. The falls were beautiful and I had a blast wandering around them down in the river bed. You're not allowed to swim there but it was hot as fuck so I was able to just hop in real quick to soak myself then get out real quick, I saw several others do the same. It was great finding the cool spring water flowing out of this one rock on the side of the river, it was so refreshing to splash my face with since the river water was hot as hell.

Just got to Austin now, gonna go to see some music tonight. Going to Houston tommorow, gonna see an Astros game and do some other stuff with family there.

Also, your expressways are great except for the FUCKING MERGING, holy shit, there's NO warning your lane is ending and the merge lanes are short as fuck. Your rural roads are unsafe as hell, the speed limit is way too high. 70 mph limit on an unseperated two lane highway going up steep hills and around sharp corners with entrances to buisenesses and side roads on them, wtf?! And yall need way more guardrails, youll be driving around a steep corner on a 60 mph road around a 100 foot dropoff and there's no guardrail! And the stupid passing sections on two lane roads where your lane ends with no warning and some jerk in an F150 came up beind me at 100 mph
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>>1129313
lol you are a racist
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>>1128064
>relocating to Texas

>on PURPOSE!
kek
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>>1130181
Be nice - maybe he lost a bet
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All the tourists go to San Antonio. All the liberals go to Austin. Austin traffic is a nightmare and I'm not sure that's going to change anytime soon.

Houston has jobs and a lively arts scene if you're into that sort of thing. If you have the money, live inside the Loop. Otherwise, hello suburban sprawl. You're also an hour from Galveston, but that's not saying much unless you're into history.

Dallas is pretty much is a soulless city.
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>>1128064
Austin and Dallas are great. Houston and San Antonio are terrible.
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>>1128300
> either way you are moving to texas, home of bigot fucking redneck idiots, but there are some really cool places in those cities
I don't get this meme, I've met way more bigots in the north and Midwest than in Texas. No one gives a fuck here where you came from.

That being said, I would recommend Dallas or Austin. Houston is a hell hole, the humidity makes it one of the most uncomfortable places in the world. Between Austin and Dallas, Austin has a better scene for young people, but Dallas I think has a much better long term outlook. The I grew up in the DFW metroplex, and though it's pretty damn boring, I can appreciate the stability of the region. I can't speak for San Antonio, haven't been there in a long time.
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>>1130731
Also live in Dallas, I think Dallas is starting to be an intersting city, but far from it. Maybe in 15 years or so
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Best beaches in our gulf? I'm looking at going to port aransas this coming week and want to confirm its one of the cleaner beaches. Been to Galveston and corpus and their beaches are god awful
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>>1130761
Texas beaches are shit.

What you will find is long stretches of cigarette butt covered sand/mud mix with dead jellyfishes everywhere
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>>1130773
Yeah I know but which is less shit? I don't have an option to leave the state right now
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>>1129242
Of course those "patriots" came to an NOI mosque in South Dallas and got run off.
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>>1130852
Galveston? Maybe?

Just avoid South Padre at all costs.
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>>1130953
Galveston smells like shit
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Just drove on I-10 from Houston back home to Florida.

GOOD GOD, what a fucking SHITHOLE the entirety of the oil refinery/chemical production corridor along the Gulf Coast from East Houston until the Florida Border is, particularly Louisiana. I'm not some hypocrital hippy who thinks we should ban all oil production, but they really should either relocate all the poor hood rats, white trash, and Mexicans who are unfortunate enough to live within a block of a refinery or move the refineries themselves as far away from populated areas as possible. Nobody deserves for their whole family to die of cancer and be afflicted with every illness under the sun caused by the pollution. Anyone with an ounce of empathy should be pissed off that these people have to or are allowed to live so close to the refineries when it's 100% proven that it's literally killing them and all the oil companies have to do is budget for the government fines they have to pay every year for spewing out tons and tons of toxic chemicals.

What I saw along I-10 and up around Opelousas in Louisiana looked like a goddamn third world country. I've spent lots of time in Lowcountry South Carolina and while that region is dirt poor, at least the nature is pretty and the farms and waterways aren't polluted to shit like in Louisiana. What the fuck is this state doing with all the tax revenue for big oil? Is it a Brazil-tier Catholic/plantation culture of government corruption? Because the people of Louisiana sure as hell aren't getting any infrastructure or opportunity in return for having their natural environment ruined. Don't even get me started on the roads. The disregard for human life there and in Port Arthur, TX is China tier, why the fuck did they build refineries literally right next to downtown Baton Rouge and Lake Charles?

I'm not usually a big environmentalist, but seeing that shit made me angry and feel lucky that I grew up in Florida and not inhaling fumes from a BP refinery since birth.
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>>1131194
All the resturaunts and gas stations in Louisiana were ghetto as shit too, everything felt dirty, overgrown, outdated, and dilapidated. I felt like nobody knew what an actual clean parking lot, bathroom, or dining area looked like and just half assed all the cleaning.

The whole state was depressing, muh cajun culture doesn't make up for how third world it was. Everything seemed to be victimizing the common man, from the smoke filled Casinos at every gas staion to the alcoholism culture to the poisinious chemicals in the air. Stuffing your face with crawfish and partying a few times a year for LSU games and mardi gras isn't a replacement for infrastructure, education, and economic opportunity outside of working on a rig or in a refinery.

The whole Texas-Louisiana-Mississippi Gulf region is already shitty as fuck and will turn into an apocalyptic hellhole if oil prices totally crash. Houston will be Detroit South.
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>>1130731
>Houston is a hell hole

Damn straight. It is a city of 3 million so of course it has plenty of shit to do but nothing that couldnt be found in any other big city. Seems like everyone who moved there did it becuase of a great job offer, nobody moves to Houston because they love Houston and want to live there. It's flatter than Orlando, had no trees outside of the outer subdivisions, and no nature whatsoever. Everyone there seems to be into golf, shopping at upscale malls literally every weekend, and going to places like Dave and Busters. Now I'm not too that I don't enjoy those things occasionally, but I'd fucking shoot myself if my leisure activities were limited to generic trendy indoor big box type activities which seemed typical for Houstonians. Is there ANY cool outdoor shit near Houston? I looked on google maps and saw nothing interesting, George Bush Park looks like a big ass flat grass field with a common pine forest in paet of in.
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>>1131204
Nobody in Houston is going anywhere outside these days. The near decade long drought is over and the 100% humidity has returned. I feel sorry for those who moved to Houston in the past 10 years for work. They probably found the summers to be hot but could tough out a hot relatively dry day. Now that the normal daily rain storms have returned, it is a steam cooker.
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Houston here, it is fucking humid as hell makes 90 degree whether feel the the triple digits. Born and raised here though so I don't mind, I enjoy the heat.
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>>1131463
Agree, but people not native to Houston are about to lose their damn minds from the heat and humidity.
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>>1131461
I mean I live in Florida so I'm used to the humidity, but here you're never that far from a nice beach, spring, or river to visit almost every weekend at during the Summer. Not much of that near Houston, I've heard Galveston Beach is kinda gross and all the bodies of water in that area seem toxic and polluted.
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>>1131204
Have had a good time in Houston as a visitor, but the sprawl is just insane, and the drivers seem to delight in cutting you off or not letting you merge. Odd outside of their cars Houstoners were friendly enough.
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Texan here:
6 years in kingsville
10 years in Dallas
7 years in San Antonio
Currently in Austin (2 years)

Don't live in Houston. Houston is bad. maybe not the worst to visit if you get the cochinit at ninfa's...

I really miss living in northwest San Antonio. Zero percent glamour and you have to drive 20 minutes to get anywhere but such a humble, "we-are-what-we-are" community. Everything is incredible affordable. Breakfast tacos that cost 1.25 here cost 3.00 in Austin. And even though they're an hour apart you can't find Mexican food like this in Austin. It's crazy. Did I mention cheap food? Also cheap living? Even stuff at grocery stores is all a dollar cheaper than Austin. But there is something kind of blah about San Antonio if you feel like a person about town. youll feel out of place wearing stylish and trendy things, in most places.

Dallas is where I'm from, Lakewood, specifically, which has a really nice vibe itself. But really the city is kind of caught up in its cosmopolitan-ness, strangers are colder than Austin or San Antonio (San Antonio the friendliest). Plenty of things to do.

Austin---eventism! All your favorite bands and nowhere to park. Expensive everything. If you're not in the thick of downtown you're kind of fucked. The Mexicans don't know how to make Mexican food here, San Antonio must have kicked them out. Also the white people make all types of ethnic food they really shouldn't, with their white spin on it. Doesn't always work. Lots of hobos and also people that are in crazy shape to make you feel bad. Traffic is dumb--rush hour starts at 2:30 and ends at 7:30pm. The lack of highways make no sense. But it's a cool hip place to be--if you've got the CASH
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>>1129313
This is pretty accurate. South Dallas is a carbon copy of Detroit complete with rampant crime. The divide of buildings, progress, and safety between North and South Dallas is obvious. Same with Houston sadly.

DFW is best described a business and family town. A decent place (well parts of it) to purchase a home in the burbs and raise a family. It has some interesting parts in Dallas and Fort Worth, and won't get boring. There is one major downside, the area is very flat with little variety in outdoors activities. Quite a few state parks on the outsides and a few lakes, but they're all the same. If you have an inclination towards outdoors activities, especially canoeing, mountain biking, or climbing/hiking then I would consider elsewhere. Fort Worth though has some great museums and parks.

Houston geographically is great, the Gulf to the South and the Piney Woods to the North. It is easily the biggest and grittiest city in Texas, it is very industrial and blue collar oriented but with many hipster parts. More crime than Dallas though and the weather is muggy, hot, and prone to storms.

Austin is...it's not Austin anymore. The Austin I knew back in the 90's growing up has changed completely, the "keep Austin Weird" campaign turned into "turn Austin into Portland 2.0". It has plenty of good restaurants and the Hill Country surrounding makes for great hiking but apart from that it's just overcrowded with hipters who have no Texan in them. Easily the most expensive city in Texas as well.

Haven't been to SA in forever but it has become an almost Mexican majority city, albeit it retains it's old world charm.
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>>1128064
Any of those places can be great or terrible depending on what you want. Why are you hell bent on moving here anyway? For work? Fun? I say go where you get the best job offer, don't live an hour drive from your job, and make your fun wherever you end up. I lived in Houston 5 years and loved it. It's fucking huge though so do some research, you don't simply LOL move to Houston, or Texas for that matter. This ain't fucking Portland.
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>>1128064
I live in Spring renting a house, it's nice but the traffic in houston is awful
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>>1128300
>either way you are moving to texas, home of bigot fucking redneck idiots

Californian detected. The people of Texas are not bigots or racists, it only seems that way because al the Californians who move to Austin and ruin it with hippie nonsense are so uptight about everything.
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>>1131743
Hell check out the Goofy cartoon "Motormania".
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San Antonio is cheap as hell, but god damn it's a hostile city. Forget that shit about Texans smiling and saying howdy all the time. If you're so much as just walking on the sidewalk you WILL be screamed at and threatened from passing cars, literally, every single time you go outside some redneck is going to screech at you from his pickup truck. People don't know how to drive, the dating pool is stupid, the river walk is artificial and lame as hell, definitely only a tourist trap at the best.

But the food is amazing. All of it. The Mexican, the Whataburger, even the HEB deli.

Good luck in Texas man, I'd reccomend Austin over the rest.
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>>1128064
Come to the Plano/Frisco area. Best part of Texas to live in
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In Austin.

What's Irving like?
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I think Dallas is a great city. As someone else said, it's just starting to become really interesting. It's going to grow massively in the next decade or so, which should bring some neat developments. It's already the best-planned city in Texas.
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