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I have a little company in Italy that makes me earn around €3000 - €4000 per month. It's an eCommerce and it's completely outsource (I can work from my computer, I just need Internet).

I would like to go in place like the one in the pic.
Consider the €100/day before tax (so, if the Income tax in the country is 30% it would be €70/day).

I'm single and I'd like a place with young people.
After selling my house I'll have €340k to €370k (the realtor isn't even sure with the current market)

Please HELP, I got bored of Rome (and Italy in general)
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>>1080663
Literally anywhere in the world except San Francisco.

I personally recommend a hostel in Bora Bora.
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>>1080663
That looks boring as fuck, OP. Where's your ambition? You just want to party with young people and have sex on a beach until your business dies?
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>>1080673
just for 2 or 3 years (and no, my business won't die)
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I want to do what you have done (start an ecommerce website and live off the earnings elsewhere). Give me some tips.
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>>1080677
ok
> 1. Outsource Everything [use even a secretary from India, $5/3hours on Fiverr]
> 2. Just start. You don't have to know everything about business
> 3. Don't choose a kind of business with low taxes but one with low starting and maintenace costs (when you'll earn more you'd think about %tax)
> 4. You DO HAVE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM with a product or service (I highly recomend infomercial industry)
> 5. Go into a field that you're passionated (but only if there's a good equilibrium between demand and offer - you don't need to have a monopolium on something)
> 6. Use other's ideas if you have any - use the steal logic and not the fraud one (use Tai Lopez as a model - he didn’t invented shit but collected infos, he may have a scammy marketing but fuck it, he's enjoying life)
> 7. Free market your business with YouTube and Reddit
> 8. Sell in USD or CAD
> 9. Care less what people think of you and your business. Don't give a shit about what your family and friends think about. 3 years ago I made €50'000 in 4 months selling dicks - huge 30cm dildos on Amazon in Europe with a 34% margin.
> 10. Read more books about business. You can take many tips from them [Start with Ferris' 4 Hour Workweek and DeMarco's Millionaire Fastlane]
> 11. Pay taxes, ALWAYS. Even if your business makes shit the authorities will protect your business; if you don’t you’ll have a huge enemy
> 12. Remember: Until you don’t have at least $10’000’000 liquid don’t even think about going to Caymans/Switzerland/HK to hide money or other shit (you’re nobody for Banks right now and they won’t give you the right attention you need to not be fucked in the ass
> 13. If you have a Business that makes a million per year you can buy a luxury car. If you don't -> walk. Last year I bought a 2007 F430 (worst decision ever, I could open a gym or restaurant with that money to have assets. I lost a lot, and it lasted for 8 months
> Make network with others in your field worldwide
>GL
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>>1080684
Not this guy but I work from home as a software developer.

B2B in a boring industry (think legal compliance) is what I recommend if you want a high effort/time to reward ratio.
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>>1080684

Thanks bro!

I'm thinking about dropshipping and have an area in mind. The only issue I have is finding what to drop ship, finding suppliers, making a really good website (not some default shit on wordpress) and marketing the product. Also, whats better to drop ship, amazon, ebay or shopify?

In terms of suppliers, I'm trying to stay away from chinese suppliers. Dealt with them before and they take so long to send stuff.
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>>1080689
Don't sell other's stuff margins are shit, make your own product
>making a really good website (not some default shit on wordpress)
Don't waste a lot of money on a website. $80-$180 if you want to buy one
I use
>Shopify
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>>1080695

I don't know what you mean by make my own product? Do you mean find a product and tailor it with my own designs and put little bits of extra stuff on? I'm going to have to find a supplier who makes a profitable product and sell that. That guy who sold dicks didn't mold them off his did he.
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>>1080663
Have you considered a Southeast Asian country? A few of them have favorable income tax as well
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>>1080665
>I personally recommend a hostel in Bora Bora.
Hi from San Francisco! Have you visited Bora Bora? Food and booze in French Polynesia are much, much, much, much more expensive than they are here.
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>>1080711
>Have you considered a Southeast Asian country? A few of them have favorable income tax as well
Definitely true that many places in Southeast Asia could be comfortable at that price. If you used the income from selling your home to buy property you can probably also qualify for an investor's visa (don't remember how much you need--I believe the Philippines is cheapest).
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>>1080709
I was the only one in Europe selling those dicks
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>>1080709
>I don't know what you mean by make my own product?
ex. Don't sell Apple's covers but make some with your design
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>>1080716
Cambodia is cheap too. Thailand can be done but the visa bullshit is a pain.
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>>1080753
>Thailand can be done but the visa bullshit is a pain.
Right, but that's why I mentioned the investment visa. If OP can invest THB 10M (just under €250,000) and demonstrate an income from abroad, he can qualify for a year-long, renewable visa. His eCommerce business would need to be aboveboard and legally incorporated, of course. And he'd have to sink thre majority of the proceeds from selling his house in Rome into Thai investments. But a condo (only kind of property foreigners are allowed to own in the Kingdom) would qualify as part of that investment portfolio.
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come ti capisco, io non vedo l'ora muoiano i miei solo per poter fare lo stesso, cioè vendere e muovermi con una barca di soldi da spendere
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>>1080769
wow, devi odiarli proprio
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>>1080766
Oh, I know all the rules, I lived there for 6 years. I will also move back there, I doubt I would ever invest much there though. I owned a house via an Ex's name (no stories about being scammed) we sold it easy enough, but the real estate market is stupid and Thai's drag their stupid animistic belief system into everything. OOooOOo don't own property on a 3 way intersection or own a condo who's door opens in a T intersection. And I don't want a second hand house because of ghosts!
Also, they've cancelled the card once already, I don't have much faith in Prayut to care more about any other foreigners than the Chinese investors they have been going for lately.
sorry for the rant
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>>1080779
No prob w/rant. I spent nearly eight years there myself, although in my case I wound up repatriating instead of marrying my gf. I was always on NI visas I got through jobs. I still get back regularly, but have no near-term plans to move back permanently, barring an exceptional professional opportunity. I find politics over the past fifteen years or so quite depressing. Worst I've ever known it in several key respects, and I've been paying attention for decades.
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I read that you don't pay any taxes for offshore business in Panama. Also some other very favorably tax laws. You might want to check that
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>>1080720
But did you make them?
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>>1080673
Just shut up. You have no idea how bad it is in Italy.
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>>1080769
>>1080777
Non sono lo stesso del messaggio di prima, ma vorrei dire che secondo me non li odia...
...Però bisogna ammettere che in Italia ci sono famiglie che hanno un livello di enmeshment insostenibile... come delle piccole repubbliche socialiste o dittatoriali (a seconda delle personalità).

Si suppone che tu faccia lavori per i tuoi aggratis. Chi ha l'azienda presuppone che il figlio finisca per gestirla. I genitori investono per il figlio, ma sempre col presupposto che il figlio li seguirà fino alla tomba in caso di difficoltà (mentre io sono per l'idea contraria: investi per dare possibilità a tuo figlio, ma non vincolarlo all'obbligo morale di prendersi cura di te per il resto della tua vecchiaia).

Poi ci sono famiglie che, anche in buona fede, ti fanno pesare la lontananza come un affronto personale. Se non chiami ti rompono le palle, poi però loro non ti telefonano, ma esigono che sia tu a metterti in contatto. Però non vogliono stabilire un piano (es. 1 telefonata a settimana) ed esigono sia tutto spontaneo, etc.


Tutta questa serie di problemucci che ho elencato a volte si trovano in famiglie insospettabili (quindi non i soliti figli di mammà etc. anche gente che non diresti mai).

Prima ci si rende conto che questi atteggiamenti hanno rotto i coglioni, prima si smette di sentirsi in colpa e si prende in mano la propria vita.

L'anonimo, sopra, si augura che i suoi crepino.
Li odia? No.
Si è rotto i coglioni? Sì.
Però spera sia la vita / il caso a fare il lavoro sporco per lui. Lui non ha il coraggio di dire "mamma, parto e vaffanculo"... così la notte prima di andare a dormire si immagina che avvenga qualche incidente che lo renda libero (ma non responsabile dell'incidente).

Se hai queste forme di stress è ora di prendere in mano la propria vita e imparare a farsi i cazzi propri.
...e vedrai che appena muovi il culo dove vorresti andare, anche le fantasie di decesso colposo dei genitori spariranno e ti sentirai meno in colpa.
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[ Translation of: >>1081020 ]
Anon said he hopes his parents die so he'll be free to leave.

I maintain anon does not have the guts to take up his life and do what he wants.
So he hopes to be relieved by an accident or some kind of extreme circumstance that will allow him to go free without feeling guilty because he abandoned somebody.

Basically, I'm saying anon expects life to do the job in his stead [= giving him an excuse to leave]. If Anon wants to leave, he shall leave and full stop. Otherwise he'll end up torn apart because of duty towards his family and desire to break free.
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>>1080684
> 2. Just start. You don't have to know everything about business

this is probably the best advice you can give anybody. I grew up second generation immigrant family, my whole life i thought "because i didn't go to university i cannot start a comapny and my best chance is to find a decent job in a trade or office and maybe hit 90k a year in 10-20 years"

I find alot of us second generation kids get this mind set and even those of us that get into university and get an office job we simply don't believe we will hit the numbers our peers will (to put it short, white locals)

Nobody told me to just do it but one day i was like "okay, i am not going to get anywhere if i don't just do it. Alright fuck it"

and i started my own security guard company.
Would it have been easier if i had a degree in some business related field? Sure

Was it necessary ?
Absolutely not, Because like everything if you put the work in to LEARN about what you specifically need to know for your goal then you will aquire the tools you need to start whatever it is you want to start.

So without school i had to spend many many more hours studying and learning and reading but now , at age 23, i am running a fairly successful Security Company , Making a profit and growing it every day. All with only a g.e.d. certificate.

So as OP said.
> 2. Just start. You don't have to know everything about business

ill add onto it
>DO EVERYTHING BY THE BOOK (legally speaking)

YES it will cost more money to get annoying licenses but you will thank yourself later if you get audited, Dont get fucking lazy
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>>1080677
Be tougher than the toughies
Be smarter than the smarties
And make it square
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>>1081026

That's inpsiring to read, hope everything goes well for you bro.

I have no idea what I want to set up in. Actually, scratch that. I have some idea, but have no idea how to set them up. I keep thinking about where to go for suppliers, how much capital I would need, how to market it, what if people wont like it and then I just give up. I tried some shitty ebay business buying some niche products from aliexpress and selling it on Ebay. I've sold a bit but stll have a lot of stock left, and not making a profit on it. Ideally, I would like to start a ecommerce business so I don't have to have the product on me. Its finding what that product is to sell thats the issue. Need to do a lot of research and find suppliers. No point finding an item and not being able to find supplier.
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>>1081017
No. They were produced in USA only. I bought 1000 (the minimum if you want to import and sell outside USA.
At the time I lived with my parents. It was hard to let them understand the situation.
Right now, the market is already saturated with them. There's a lot of competition.
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>>1081100
I can imagine that. I can mentally hear them say "son, could you explain this?" in a disappointed voice while they're standing in a room chock-full with plastic dongs.
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>>1081151
my room was full, half of the garage was full (i had to buy a car, instead my "reserved" spot had dicks) and another part of them were in my best friends garage. Our parents thought we were gay (even if we has girlfriends at the time) But he gived no fucks. since then we help eachother to upgrade financialy. [To mantain our friendship we never started a business togheter - and i suggest you anons to do aswell]
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>>1081171

Wait, so did you buy the product, make your store on shopify and then ship out the products when sold? I thought retaillers can ship out products for you?
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>>1081308
Yes, But I didn't told them to send directly to Amazon. I took them for some days at home.
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