How far down the Furry Hole have you gone, /trash/? I'm just going to assume everyone's already into furry stuff and has fapped to furry porn.
[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
>>851758
Do you have a black cat?
>>851734
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
No.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
N/A
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
No.
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
No.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
No.
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
N/A
I just like the art. But on that note, I REALLY like the art. I'm not sure if I like it just because it's furry, or if there just happens to be a lot of really talented furry artists out there, but regardless, I like it.
I just fap to the porn, can't check any of those things off.
I did use to roleplay though, but I think that makes me a different kind of fucked up than your list is implying.
>>851848
Just for test do you remember this face?
>>851734
Yes to the first (it's a coyote), no to everything else
>>851875
Ooh good
>>851928
Hmm maybe. I remember this person talking about sexing their cat on /r9k/ last year.. Was just curious if that was you
>>851927
Pure fucking boredom. Entirely honest answer.
>>851971
an addendum, also for ego stroking during ehh... other, stroking. Same reason people imagine themselves fucking girls in porn.
>>852034
I don't quite get that part, honestly. Wouldn't it be easy enough to self-insert as the guy already there? Or yourself?
>>852089
In furry porn though? I don't know, sometimes I guess. It's mostly just a character for fun. I'm NOT my fursona and I know it so I'm not that crazy.
>>852030
I..think so! Now I must kill you!
>>852226
Im sorry it has to be this way cat anon..I dont even know what Im in this thread either desu
>>852420
Listen, I'm a furfag, but don't blow your cat. Keep that shit in fantasy
>>852420
Most - in fact, almost all cats - live happily without ever getting blown.
What you're really doing is keeping him from getting a nice catwife and having some kittens.
>>851734
Only #3. I have commissioned pictures, but they weren't specifically furry.
So who here has met people into beastiality? Does anyone find this fucking disgusting and destructive to the fandom as a whole because it makes people relate furfags to beastialityfags?
>>852548
I had a friend who's wife demanded they have a great dane. She worked from home, he worked 4 cities away. I guarantee it was so the dog could fuck her. Their relationship was, strained to say the least.
>>852588
That's depressing. It's actually kinda frustrating because, of course you know? To the eye of the outsider yeah it looks like you fuck animals, you have no concept of the difference between anthro and real animals, so if you jack off to something with animal features you must fuck your dog. But it's doubly frustrating when people go WELL I SAW THIS AND THIS AND THESE GUYS SAID THEY WERE FURRIES, and they fuck their dogs.
It's like shit man, one step forward, two steps back.
>>852612
Either or, I've met like 3 "furries" that were into animal fucking, ended the contact with em immediately. I dunno, just not into using animals as sex toys.
>>852636
That's pretty sad mate.
>>851849
Dude, you read ass castle too? I remember reading that in high school and thinking it was unique funny for the time.
I just like the name a lot to be honest.
>>852677
You're using animals as sex toys. Why not use a baby since you're using creatures that don't know any better?
It's rather disgusting.
>>852618
I'd never really fuck an animal. Just... no.
I love animals for what they are, cute and all that and pets are good friends sometimes, but they aren't for fucking.
>>852680
Lamezone is a fucking goldmine. I'd also recommend you listen to her music, if you're into plunderphonics.
>>851849
Hahaha! I like the comic
>>852706
Besides the fact it can damage the animal?
Ever wonder why animals don't fuck out of species?
>>852733
I haven't read that, but I"ll check it.
Who did ass castle? I can't remember. Was it Mondegreen? She used to have a friend who did these amazing psychodelic MS paintings. But she closed her accoutn or removed her paintings or something. It was like 6-7 years ago, I can't remember their names.
>>852791
Why do YOU like it?
>>852826
You make me sad.
>>852791
Because you're forcing a living creature that has no understanding into sexual acts and treating it like a dildo. If you don't see why that's fucked up, and why you're in the severe minority, then you have a mental condition.
Which actually is fairly obvious.
>>852803
Partydog, but now she goes by Cate Wurtz.
>>852874
You're right, why aren't you jacking off babies?
>>852936
So you admit it's bad and you're just not getting caught, appreciate it sick fucker.
>>852994
Because you're taking advantage of living creatures, it's pretty sad actually you're mentally incapable of understanding this, and again, why you're in a severe minority of mentally fucked up people.
>>853043
Why do you think animals only fuck in their own kind?
Are you retarded?
Oh wait, yeah.
>>853092
>If they do, as it is with humans and their pets, they will often present themselves to/attempt to mount them
Source needed.
You're a moron and trying to justify using animals as sex toys, that's fucking hilarious and sad at the same time.
>>853121
>too stupid to understand the difference between sexual mounting and dominance displays
Wew lad.
>>851734
yes, feral dragon
no
no
no
no
no
pretty vanilla tbphwy (too be perfectly honest with you)
>>853150
>Strip down and bend over in front of an intact male dog, and he'll start trying to fuck you
Source needed faggot.
>>853196
>nothing scientific here
Disregarded.
Can I get an actual source? Because I'm not seeing any. As usual, the mentally damaged bestiality fags don't actually think with logic.
>>851734
Don't have a fursona, but have gone to furcons. It was some of the best fun I've ever had.
>>851734
no
no
no
no
no
no
>>853224
How were they? are they expensive?
>>853237
>watching beastiality videos
Pass, coaxing your dog multiple times into fucking you until it becomes habit like anything else isn't a dogs nature. Are you retarded or something?
Post some scientific sources on the sexuality of dogs and get back to me, instead of your fetish porn.
>>853298
That's what I thought, there's a reason it's condemned you realize? Or maybe you don't realize, and that's why you do it, and why you're this awkward offshoot that damages animals.
Sorry you're mental, you need to seek help.
>>853260
Afaik, furry cons tend to be the most expensive of all the cons. Comes down to economies of scale - furry cons also tend to be the smallest.
They were great! I went to RBW in London, and the main event there was a party on a boat going up and down the Thames. Eurofurence has these really good puppet shows.
Generally a furcon tends to go like: presentations, workshops, etc during the day, and disco every night. And almost everybody's in costume, so it's very exotic.
>>853334
>still no source
Why would I answer a morons questions when they have no proof of their claims?
Face it, animals fuck in kind, and you're using animals as sex toys that wouldn't choose to do that, ever lol. This is why I'm calling you an idiot and and oddball, because you are.
>You know, there was once a day when I wasn't into bestiality
Stopped reading =)
Maybe one day you'll have proof.
>>853386
>you need a scientific peer reviewed source for everything
Shit man, I don't have one on hand that says I love my fiance, that means it's not real.
>>853424
>thinking a personal preference that pertains to you and you alone is the same as making claims about an entire species mating habits.
You're not THAT stupid are you?
>>853430
I can hear you, I can hear the dude two blocks over shouting that the aliens are taking him, I've yet to see proof for both. If you're gonna spew bullshit, prepare to back it up. Once more, you're in the wrong, pretty much every nation in the world knows your wrong, science knows you're wrong, but you have a few videos of people who train their dogs to fuck them and think you're right?
Like, wat?
>>853479
>what difference does it make to the animal?
Besides being potentially harmful and attempting to train the animal to come to humans for sexual encounters, which can end up being potentially harmful?
>>853543
>It can only be harmful in the case of a human penetrating an animal
No
>As for training the animal to come on to humans, that's not harmful to the animal
>Some animal comes up trying to fuck a human
>Human rejects it in aggressive way
>Animal doesn't understand
>Conflicting signals
>Animal can become mix of both aggressive and sexual towards humans
>not harmful
Wew, you people are dumb as fuck and never think anything through.
>>853589
>No
No?
Do explain
As for that scenario, being aggressive to an animal isn't really all that good for them to begin with
Not to mention the chances of that even happening being highly unlikely, much less happening often enough to encourage any sort of specific behavior, and if it did it probably wouldn't have the same results that you think it would anyway
In all likelihood, the animal would just refrain from coming onto whoever rejected them
They can tell the difference between two different humans, you know
Also, I should have went to bed two hours ago
I'll get back to you tomorrow
>>853674
>Also, I should have went to bed two hours ago
I accept your defeat, be sure to bring your sources when you come back.
Protip, you won't.
>>851734
Someone can jerk off to a drawing without being obligated to make a suite of life choices.
>>851734
>[X] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
It's a emo possum
>[X] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
>[X] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
>[X] Do you own a fursuit?
>[X Have you gone to a furry convention?
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
>>851734
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
>[X] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Shit happens...
>>854691
I know that. I'm just curious to see how many of those choices other people have chosen to make. I have a fursona (squirrel) and have commissioned clean art of it, but I can't really imagine myself checking off the rest of those boxes. At least not yet, anyways...
>>854747
Okay, I have to know how the hell that happens. Were you staying at the hotel where a con was going on and through a string of events wound up having sex?
>>853374
That sounds like a pretty good time actually...
Still don't think I'd drop the coin on it but it's nice to know. Thanks.
>>854730
I think I know you...
No to all that, I just love the porn. Also, i think I'm the rarest breed of furry, a straight one.
>>851734
no to all questions
>>856630
>straight
For what purpose
>>851734
>Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
I have imagined myself as several anthropomorphic characters for sexual pleasure.
No to all other questions.
>>853589
Random observer and proud non-animal fucker here, saying "no" and the insulting the person you're arguing with won't get you very far in terms of winning an actual argument.
In addition, with this post you completely misconstrued what the other anon was saying and then proceeded to attack it. Well done. You took his initial statement of a human training an animal, and then completely invalidated in by saying the same (or different) human that trained it would react to it's sexual advances, which they want, in an agressive way. It's not a valid or legitimate situation, like talking about whether or not climate change is occurring and then offering a hypothetical about the moon exploding.
I'm more suprised that the other anon dignified your drivel with a response instead of just calling you out on this and insulting you.
I just fap to male human on female furry. Too bad most of the fandom likes gay shit
>>853589
Also aside, but when the other anon makes a claim, you request a scientific peer-reviewed journal source (which really isnt worth that much) as support, but your counterclaim of "no", taking the position that whatever does hurt them needs no similar source to back it up. Your holding him to a standard that you aren't even holding yourself.
Also, constantly demanding a source makes you seem childish, and is a great way to again, fail to argue about the actual topic at hand, but instead propose that because he has no source he must be wrong. You seem to easily propose you're own inane hypotheticals, then argue against a hypothetical proposed by the other anon, say "if it could be shown that animals enjoyed it, what is wrong with it?"
That seems like a far more reasonable hypothetical than the one you proposed earlier about a random agressive response for an action by the same trainer that wanted to illicit that same action.
>>857742
>>857888
He has yet to back up his claim, until I get a source all drivel is allowed. If he gives me nothing to back up his claim, I give nothing to back up mine, kapeesh?
>Also, constantly demanding a source makes you seem childish, and is a great way to again, fail to argue about the actual topic at hand
>All of science is childish
Disregarded tho.
just the porn for me
No to all of those questions. I've tried to think about the fursona thing, but I can't really imagine myself as any particular animal. I guess I have a bad imagination. I'd like to go to a con, but I feel like I'd be too old now.
>>853744
12 hours and 40 minutes to make the most well-written and thought-out reply you've ever made on 4chan, and this is what you give me
You didn't even elaborate on what I asked you to elaborate on
At the very least, just give me that
>>857914
It is extremely childish to respond to literally every single thing with "Oh, is that so? Well, if you can find a peer-reviewed scientific paper that agrees with you, then MAYBE I'll address your claim in some way, but until then, :^))))))))))"
>>858108
>doesnt elaborate or show sources on what is asked of him
>expects people to elaborate on what you ask
Dat hypocrisy tho.
Also look at the time code lel, you're a failure if you think it took that long.
>>858108
Burden of proof is yours, nice try tho ;)
You may not know how that works, google will help ya out!
>>858221
I know you took only 10 minutes to write it, but the fact that you had all that time to write a masterpiece of a rebuttal and only used it to write something that amounts to "na na-na boo-boo, go stick your head in doo-doo", is kind of sad
In any case, I'm willing to elaborate on points I've previously made as much as you want me to
Simply giving me something more than "no" would suffice, I can't work with just "no"
You're not giving me anything to work with
>>851734
Had a fursona. Won't say what species it was, just that it wasn't a fictional animal species.
Never paid for commissions, had artist friends who'd draw stuff for me though. Nothing lewd.
No suit.
I went to many cons back when I was active.
Had sex at about 4 or 5 of them.
>>856630
I'm straight as well. There *are* rarer breeds out there.
>>858354
Why would I need to write out some long drawn out response to appease you, you already have nothing to show for your claims lol.
I'm just waiting.
>>851734
Haven't done any of those things yet but thats more because of time and budget constraints.
I exclusively fap to furry and don't have any attraction to humans what so ever so if I had more time I would probably participate in more of that stuff. In essence I'm pretty far gone I guess.
>>858607
Because if you elaborate on your position even a little bit, then maybe I can falsify or at least heavily discredit it
But you obviously don't want that happening, do you?
You're just going to demand a source for everything I say while saying absolutely nothing yourself, because you "don't need to"
You're going to sit there and demand scientific research on something that no scientist is researching until I get tired of dealing with you, at which point you can gloat and claim victory, and in the end neither of us will be proven wrong
>>851734
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
I tried but I suck at drawing. Was just gonna use a classic gray wolf wilderness survivalist. I don't like roleplaying either so there's really no point in it outside art.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
No.
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
No.
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
No.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
No.
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
No.
Like most here, I just fap to porn and nothing more.
>>858695
Cept you are proven wrong, you've made baseless claims. Why are you so dense lol?
Oh right, the autism.
>>859062
Meanwhile, you have made no claims at all
By the way, when you question someone's claims without making claims of your own, that's called skepticism
And skepticism isn't an argument
>>859094
>By the way, when you question someone's claims without making claims of your own
Are you retarded? Your claims go against current understanding of animal behavior you fucking idiot lol.
Burden, of, proof, is, yours. El oh el, check fucking mate buddy, you got nothing.
>>859168
And god forbid you tell me why you think that non-penetrative sex is physically harmful to an animal
>>859211
>still no source
>already told you
>not knowing how excessive masturbation can effect the nervous system or penis tissue
>inb4 i dun excessively dooo ittt
You're so dumb it hurts.
>>859222
>already told you
This is 100% false, as the most you've told me until now was "no", but now you've finally given me something to work with
>not knowing how excessive masturbation can effect the nervous system or penis tissue
Alright, but I'm going to assume that's specific to me
What about other people, who don't do it excessively?
How is a single, simple handjob physically harmful?
>>859282
>This is 100% false
Cept not, scroll up please.
>How is a single, simple handjob physically harmful?
Potentially harmful.
>>859444
How is it potentially harmful?
>>859569
I think you're grasping at straws
Giving a cat a handie is no more potentially harmful than letting that cat have sex with another cat
Hell, because of the barbs, letting a female cat have sex with a male is more harmful than just rubbing her pussy
>>859599
>I think you're grasping at straws
I think you have no source to back up your claim.
Scratch it, I know you don't.
>Giving a cat a handie is no more potentially harmful than letting that cat have sex with another cat
Wrong, google masturbation. You're so retarded lol, but you like to jack off cats so I'm really not surprised.
>>859677
I don't see how stroking a cat's sheath produces more friction or stress on the tissue than ordinary sex
And masturbating a female cat is still undoubtedly less harmful than normal sex
>Bunch of facts being spouted without source citing out of both sides: The argument
>>859804
There just isn't a whole lot of scientific research done on zoophilia at all, for or against it
That's why demanding a source at all is just silly, and why I have never once asked for a source from him
>>859711
>I don't see how stroking a cat's sheath produces more friction or stress on the tissue than ordinary sex
Is this nigga serious?
>>859941
Alright, that was kind of stupid of me
Still, I don't think it would cause tissue damage
And if it did, it might, you know, maybe hurt a little
And if it hurts, maybe he'd try and make me stop
Just a thought
>>851849
>asscastle
Good taste Anon, Lamezone is pretty great.
>>860004
That's a lot of maybes for an animal that doesn't think in the same way.
>>860059
Responding negatively to things that inflict pain is a reasonable behavior to expect from any animal
Hell, that's one of the ways that they test how deep a person is in a coma
>>860083
That's a lot of maybes for an animal that doesn't think in the same way.
>>860510
Animals respond negatively to pain
This is a well-known behavior
If he doesn't respond negatively, chances are I'm not inflicting any pain on him
>>860558
>This is a well-known behavior
So is having sex with their own kind specifically. Negatively can be as mild as expressing discomfort and as aggressive as attacking you, either way I don't trust an animal fucker to stop when it happens.
Sorry, this is why it's illegal in most places, and why you're an idiot that still has no sources to back up his claims.
>>851734
>yes
>nox5
>>860585
>either way I don't trust an animal fucker to stop when it happens
Which is why I don't particularly want to see zoophilia as being an accepted practice
God knows most people are selfish idiots that would do this sort of thing
But that's obviously immoral, we're talking about things intrinsic to zoophilia itself
Ignoring an animal's signs of discomfort is not necessary in order for bestiality to take place
And, of course, there's situations where the animal is dominant, usually when they're male, and can obviously stop whenever they feel like
>>860686
>the ramblings of an animal fucker
This is so sad lol. You truly know no better, you're truly mentally fucked up. You need a home lol.
>>860742
While insults do have some place in arguments, they're best used when supplemented with actually disputing a person's points
Insults cannot substitute for an actual argument, this is referred to as argumentum ad hominem
>>860790
I disputed em a long time ago, you backpedal and dodge and ignore the fact you got nothing. I'm just having fun insulting you now, again, you have nothing to actually use against it, might as well belittle you a bit too for being mentally damaged.
>>851734
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
I've made dumb characters for drawing, but nothing I would consider a "fursona". Essentially none of them represent me.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
N/A
>[X] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
If you count kinks as lewd, then yes. Nothing adult commissioned yet.
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
Nope.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
Don't have the money even if I wanted to.
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
N/A
I have a lot further to fall, but that won't be any time soon.
>>860838
All you've done is assert something, then ask for an academic source and stick your head in the sand whenever I dispute it
Only this time I don't need an academic source, mere logic and reasoning is enough to prove you wrong, so now you resort to insults
Thanks for everything, though, this was fun
>>860967
>All you've done is assert something, then ask for an academic source
No, you asserted something nonsensical and have no source to back it up, don't even fuggin try to flip that around lol. You're the moron making baseless claims here.
It was fun wrecking a disgusting person that is so mentally damaged he gets off by harming animals as sex toys, next time think before you post mmkay?
>>861114
How is "handjobs aren't painful" a nonsensical assertion?
>>861213
Because you didn't say that, you implied it wasn't potentially harmful.
Yeesh you people are awkward lol. Can't even remember what you said, jerkin off cats, god damn.
>>861114
Not him. Having a hard time looking through the reply chain and finding out what your 'winning' argument was. Could you explain why you believe zoophilia is fundamentally wrong?
>>861482
>animals has sex with their own kind for a reason
>sex with animals is potentially harmful
>its wrong to use living creatures as sex toys
>might as well be fucking babies
>illegal is most states and countries
>wonder why its fundamentally wrong
I get you're a sick fuck that's mentally incapable of logical though, but at least question why you're in a severe minority compared to the rest of the world.
>>861460
Well, obviously just about anything can potentially be harmful
But if you aren't being a retard or otherwise obviously intentionally abusive and don't have serious problems with motor control, handjobs are fine
>>861541
Again someone outside of this whole argument or even the guy who asked the question you are replying to, but you don't have a point by using an argumentum ad populum
>>861567
>selectively choosing what you respond to
That's fine, if you have nothing to respond with I'd zero in on something that's just me pleading for you to make observations, rather than an argument. If you want the argument, see the greentext =)
>>861555
Cept not, you're just ignoring everything posted. I'm gathering it's the only way you can live with yourself actually, you know you're wrong so you just live in your own little world where it's okay and your cat loves you for using it as a sex toy lol.
>>861629
Handjobs do not result in injury
Even in humans this only happens when there's no lube and it's extraordinarily rough, in the case of cats they're already moist under the sheath, so there's no excessive friction
And, as I said before, if there was excessive friction, it would probably hurt and my cat would probably do something about it, because as you already know, animals react negatively to pain
>>861629
All I see in the greentext are even weaker arguments. I'll say it before and I'll say it after: I don't really give a shit about either side of the argument. Just trying to show you why your arguments are weak and should probably work on them if you want to hold a point:
>animals have sex with their own kind for a reason
Appeal to nature fallacy
>Sex with animals is potentially harmful
Not really an argument when something is just POTENTIALLY wrong. The public availability of knives can also potentially destroy society as we know it, but it hasn't stopped anyone
>It's wrong to use living creatures as sex toys
Purely an appeal to morals. Also, it doesn't work because you are implying the animal can never experience pleasure
>might as well be fucking babies
Slippery slope fallacy
>illegal is most states and countries
Appeal to authority fallacy
Again, I don't give a shit about either side of the argument. I'm not one to want to fuck animals myself, but so far, I haven't found a good, logical reason for others to not be able to. So I don't have a reason to be against them either.
>>861698
different strokes for different folks I don't enjoy sex with dogs and other animals but I don't care that others do as long as it dosent hurt the animal
>>861541
>animals has sex with their own kind for a reason
If they didn't, then reproduction wouldn't happen. Sex isn't exclusively for reproduction though. Sex is useful purely as a social bonding activity. Many species have sex just for fun.
>sex with animals is potentially harmful
Dogs fuck like you wouldn't believe. A 70lb male can easily get bigger than most humans, and they hump like a jackhammer then knot to a baseball size, so bitches aren't likely to get injured. On the turn around, if the human gets hurt then it's their fault so no problem there.
Using this argument regarding larger animals like horses is even sillier.
>its wrong to use living creatures as sex toys
Animals enjoy sex too. All animal species can achieve orgasm and generally enjoy it. Otherwise they'd have very little reason to reproduce. Plus, as above, sex isn't just for immediate pleasure. It's a social activity that brings individuals together. Who are you to say it's impossible for a zoophile to enjoy sex with an animal for more than just the pop off?
>might as well be fucking babies
Animals aren't human, so there goes your comparison right off the bat. Further, fucking a baby animal is wrong for much the same reasons fucking a baby human is wrong. There really is potential for harm in this case, as the body isn't yet developed sexually. The animal also won't be getting the nice hormones and endorphins that sex brings to an adult, so their potential to enjoy it is far reduced.
>illegal is most states and countries
Not a useful argument when discussing morality and ethics. Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's morally wrong.
Please give me an actual argument. That was almost boring.
>>861698
>I haven't found a good, logical reason for others to not be able to
Forgot to add: as long as they aren't doing it by means of any kind of violence towards the animal.
>>861698
>e-e-EVERYTHING IS FALLACY
No, rejected, lol, don't even try, you've lost before you started.
Come back with a stronger argument next time please instead of just calling everything a fallacy, because your argument is the fallacy fallacy.
>>861731
>Dogs fuck like you wouldn't believe. A 70lb male can easily get big
Stopped reading, go back and reread the arguments where this is already covered to better prepare yourself to discuss the issue.
>>861693
>Handjobs do not result in injury
Moron detected, use google please.
>>861772
Yes everything you said is a fallacy you fucking idiot. Do you even understand how the fallacy fallacy argument works? It'd work if I had said that your general PROPOSITION was wrong just because you used flawed arguments, but I didn't. The potential for your proposition that fucking animals is wrong in any circumstance is there and I never rejected it, I was just telling you why the ARGUMENTS you used to support that PROPOSITION are wrong, and thus you can't reach your conclusion by means of those arguments. I specifically told you it was your ARGUMENTS that you needed to work on to support what you were saying.
Do me a favor and educate yourself you fucking retard.
>>861843
>finds injury
>hur gur burden of proof is on u
Wat?
>>861809
Fallacy fallacy rejected, again, sorry.
Do me a favor, go back and reread everything so we're on the same page finally lol, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>861874
>I just explained why it would be unlikely for my cat to experience chafing
>I give you my word!
>A man with mental damage takes all the precautions when jacking his cat off!
No.
>>861906
>Logic dictates that this means chafing is unlikely
>unlikely
So dumb lel
>>861969
>implying implications
So dumb lel.
>>861995
>Too stupid to have basic reading comprehension
Honestly familia? Honestly?
>>862108
>trust me i jerk off my cat all the time im super gentle
That's where the problem is and why I don't like it, you're sick in the head and think you have all situations and exceptions under control, but you're sick in the head lol, you don't. Damaging animals isn't normal, jerking off animals isn't normal, doing things to animals that can potentially damage them isn't normal. I just trust people with animals when they have some brain disorder that makes them think this is okay, and I don't trust anything they say.
The fact of the matter is it can harm them, the animal has no control over it, you're using it as a sex toy, and you've substituted your own batshit reality in place of what's going on.
>>861772
>Come back with a stronger argument next time please instead of just calling everything a fallacy, because your argument is the fallacy fallacy.
He never attacked your belief, only the argument. By definition he cannot be committing a fallacy fallacy because he is only attacking your logic in an effort to make you use real reasoning. If he said "lol fallacy so animal fucking is okay then", that would be a fallacy fallacy, but still wouldn't mean your arguments held water.
>Stopped reading, go back and reread the arguments where this is already covered to better prepare yourself to discuss the issue.
Please explain. The above page is a god damn train wreck. I can't see anything explaining in a good way why the fact that male dogs are larger and more aggressive than humans is not good evidence that a male human could possibly penetrate a female dog with no injury.
Please give me a real response. Your posts are starting to feel like mindless trolling, which doesn't really help your position at all.
>>862207
You're right, a mentally challenged person cannot convince me they treat animals right.
You've already admitted you don't.
>>862154
You could just say "I don't believe you". All this "you're sick in the head so nothing you say could be true" is just ad hominem.
Of course, if you told him you don't believe him, he can't retaliate because linking to videos of cats enjoying handjobs (they exist, and they fucking love hand jobs by the way) is bannable. Check your privilege you anthrosexual scum. :^)
>>851734
>[x] Have you made up a fursona for yourself (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Yes. Lizard/Kobold.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
No
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
No. Thinking about it.
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
Fuck no. Fursuiters are nuts.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
No.
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
I wish.
>>852754
Ahahahahahahahaha... Gasp... Ahahahahahah
>Do your research mother fucker.
>Otters rape seals
>Dolphins period
>Seen pics of dog x leopard, Giraffe x donkey, Etc.
>Lived on farm, duck x turkey, turkey x chicken, Goat x sheep.
>>862478
You won't find them on most mainstream zoo sites. I've built my collection mostly from torrents on trackers that have long been dead.
Anyway I used to jack and blow a main coon cat. He was neutered but loved it anyway. Used to roll over and be peeking pink, then just stare at me until I got the hint. Loved the guy until his very last days at the age of 16.
Also had a female. She didn't like to get licked, but loved to be rubbed. I'd be petting her, and she'd casually start swinging her butt into my hand until I rubbed. A few minutes of wet massage later and she'd growl, bite my wrist gently, and strut away. Leaving me with a hand covered in cat musk. Any time I tried to lick she'd just nope and walk away a bit, then start flagging me again. Bitch was a tease. She managed to make it all the way to 18.
It's been several years since then, and I still haven't been able to go get another cat. I loved those two.
>>863080
Yeah, actually. There's an actively zoo-hostile person in this thread and I'd rather not be banned. Sorry famil.
>>851758
you're fuckin everywhere m80
>>852548
It's shit like animal fucking that makes villains of the fandom more than the autistic ones can manage just by existing.
>>852874
>If that's sad, then I suppose most pet owners are sad
cat-fucker, please
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Yes. Ring-tailed lemur.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
Yes.
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Yes
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
No. I don't think I'd ever want one.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
No.
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Nope.
I've done none of this.
I just literally like jacking off to the furry tits and furry femboys.
>>862663
Why would you wish for con sex? Sounds terrifying to me - a shit ton of people with fetishes ranging from the okay to the off putting to the horrifying, and all desperate to indulge in some possibly group action without much time for establishing boundaries.
>going to cons furry or otherwise for sex
enjoy your incurable stds
Is it fun to go if you don't fursuit? How weird would that be?
>>866063
Yep same for me.
Furry since 1999. Raccoon since 2002. /trash/ is where I belong.
Several badges. My friend has commissioned a few things with me in it.
Cons are basically the entirety of my offline social life, since all the people I know are hours away, and I'm ok with this.
My character is not for sexual as long as I myself am not for sexual. So it may be a while.
If I get a suit, it will probably be the second-most expensive thing I will have owned, second only to my car.
Sweet, catfuckers ded.
>>868029
What are you afraid of, Anon? Why is interspecies sex so threatening to you? I can already tell that it disgusts you. I can already tell that you have very strong beliefs about what non-human animals can or cannot think and feel. But what else do you fear?
>>851734
No to all of the above. I just fap to the lewds.
I would do all of those if I had enough money and/or motivation though.
>>866063
Same here for some reason.
>>851734
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
No. I've created werewolf characters for roleplaying games. That's about it.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
I've had commissions drawn of at least one of the characters I've created above. None of them were done by furry artists.
Fun fact, I have had one of my NON-werewolf characters drawn by a furry artist. He did it for free. I guess he liked the character. She's a vampire.
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Never
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
Nope
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
nah
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
nein
Well done furry art is hot. I have no urge to contribute to more of it being made though, it seems to be doing well enough on its own.
I have a fursona, a spotted hyena. I used to hang out in IRC and dabbled in ERP years ago.
No to all the other questions. I'd love to go to a con one day but I don't have any furry friends. To my knowledge, anyway. Actually, in the past I've been acquainted with a handful of people who I found out were furries. But I never had the courage to talk to them about it and now they're long gone.
There were also people I suspected of being furry. One guy I was pretty good friends with in college. I overheard someone talking about a conversation they had with him. I think he was trying to talk to her about a fetish (they were both open-minded about sex and close enough to talk about such things) but she ended up not being comfortable with it. I was pretty sure I heard the word "furry" in there. But maybe my mind just filled it in.
Another girl I knew in college found out about furry one day and started talking about it, but in the surface way that people who aren't actually furries do. She was trying to search WikiFur for "leopard bondage costumes" or something. I could have told her how it actually works, but I didn't.
[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Ah, I can't check anything here
![462892c6873701bd16b759a0c0a2ed24[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/JdK2ypZ.png "462892c6873701bd16b759a0c0a2ed24[1].png")
>>851734
[~ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Kinda, it's an MMO character I play
[ x] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
Yes
[x ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Yes
[] Do you own a fursuit?
No, will never, that's just fucking weird
[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
No, I just like to be a pervert in the privacy of my own home
[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
No
>>851734
[N] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
[N/a] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
[N] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
[N] Do you own a fursuit?
[N] Have you gone to a furry convention?
[N] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Looks like I fail at being a hardcore degenerate. Same as everything else.
>>870920
>leopard bondage costumes
That's not a thing?
I suppose that's possible...
[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself?
(Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Hell no
[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
Hell no
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission
(Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Hell no
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
Hell no
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
Hell no
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Hell no.
Why can't you idiots just be furries for the porn like I am ?
Pic related
>>883538
Of course it is, but a furry would have used the word "fursuit" and would have known WikiFur is not the place to look.
>>857426
Cause dick ain't for me. Simple as that.
>>884026
>not getting the best of both worlds
>willingly cutting yourself off from half of all potential sex partners and probably half of all porn in existence
For
What
Purpose
>>884074
As I said, I don't like dick. Tried it. Didn't like it, I move on with life. Deal with it nigga.
>>884401
I bet you don't even want to have sex with animals
>>884681
Probably because he's not autistic
>>884681
Nigga, why do you think I'm on /trash/?
>>884712
I meant real animals
>>884722
>implying
>>884805
That's not a real animal
This is
>>884825
I'd be down for marevag.
>>884880
Cat dick is better, though
>>885010
Whatever floats your boat, anon. I'd really like to be with a dolphin tho.
>>884401
I'm gonna need a source on that image, anon.
>>885743
No idea, got it on sodium glutamate.
>>856630
Are you me.
Based on the types of porn that gets produced and uploaded there's no reason to think there aren't a whole lot of straight furries, especially if you're just talking about people who look at the art. The story changes if you're talking about the more social, community part of the fandom but even there you're not that much of a unicorn.
>>885855
I dunno m8. Watchu like?
>>851734
I fapped to gay furry twice.
That's about it.
>be me
>going to store to pick up some groceries
>browsing around 4chan like usual
>forgot to grab salt
>fuckmydeadmother.gif
>find this thread when I'm back at my place
>didn't need salt after all
>It's spraying from my screen
>>886779
Much kek, such salt
Wow
>>884880
moar
>>851734
>[ x] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
>[ x] Have you gone to a furry convention?
>[x ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
>>851734
None of that.
Although I have't commissioned art because of lacking paypal or a credit card.
>>883741
>Why can't you idiots just be furries for the porn like I am ?
Some people just want a little something extra. It's interesting to see how many people go for that extra stuff.
>>851734
>[x ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
yea its a raccoon I am planning on changing.
[x] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
yea
[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
no Why would you do that
[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
kinda wish
[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
I wish.
[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
**wish**
>>851734
Those are some specific questions, though. I don't apply to any of them, but I've gone deeper down the hole than I previously was. First it was "just for the porn", but since then I've developed more interest in the underlying reasons.
That is to say, I've come interested in anthropomorphism in a historical context. And you quickly discover that what we call "furry" has basically been around since the Stone Age. That's why you have this divide between furries, because it's both an expression of behaviour inherent to our species.
>>851734
>[x] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Yeah sort of, but it was just for erp a while back
It was a grey and white husky
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
nope
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
nope
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
I hate those suits, I tried mascot suit once
shit was hot as fuck, I was sweating like crazy
I have nothing against other people who do it though
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
nope but I have had people invite me to go with them to one, I'm considering going to one
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
No but that sounds fun, but a bit scary at the same time
I've heard some stories
>>883741
Where do you think the porn comes from, idiot?
Yes, housecat
No
No
No
Yes, with friends
Yes
>>885028
Agreed.
>>903471
BDSM is a garbage fetish for garbage people
Fuck, why does everyone gotta be so weird about it.
I'm just in it for the porn, man
>>903567
Good think you're on /trash/ hue hue.
>>862880
Hot.
>>851734
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself?
Yes.
>(Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Bush.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
Nope.
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Nope, drawn it myself out of boredom.
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
Nope.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
Nope, would kinda like to check it out. Just to see what the people are like.
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Nope.
>>851734
No
Nyet
Nein
Nej
Nu
Naw
I really just like the porn and the art.
>>851734
>How far down the Furry Hole have you gone, /trash/?
I'm essentially gay for furries, with no attraction to real men or boys
I'm just going to assume everyone's already into furry stuff and has fapped to furry porn.
You aren't wrong.
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
No; no.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
No.
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
No.
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
No, but I'd buy one if I had the money.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
Does an mlp convention count?
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Some fat guy ended up taking me back to his hotel, but he kicked me out when he found out I was 16. (This convention was 3 years ago.)
>>851734
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
I created an "avatar" character but I don't consider him a fursona, since I wrote him up as a unique character not based on myself at all. Just a femmy little dragon dude.
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
Nope.
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Nope.
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
Hell naw.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
Yup. It's boring.
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Nope.
>>910679
>I'm essentially gay for furries
fucking doppelgangers
minus
>your last three answers to the quiz
>>851734
[X] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
I'm too indecisive to settle on just one character and even then it would just be a character I use to represent myself in a given situation, not necessarily representative of me in any symbolic manner.
That's not stopped me from creating characters that could, potentially, be used as one though, so this kind of applies. Usually they're reptiles of some kind; snakes, lizards, the odd dragon because I'm an otherkin in denial, nothing too interesting.
[??] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
I've had art drawn of a few of my characters, but I'm not sure if the my reasoning in the above would qualify me for this because they were either not terribly "furry" (a stone golem and an elemental fire serpent mashed together) or a character for a tabletop RPG game I was in (and I'm far from an omnicompetent wheelman/heroic smuggler kind of person).
[X] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Anthro jet porn counts for this, right? I should get more beefy lizardmen drawn. Or sexy snakes. Dragons are fine too, as are birds.
[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
No.
[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
Nope.
[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
See above.
>>856630
Then you're me, but I prefer cute over lewd. I'm the most vanilla of all.
>>913488
You have a fursuit.
>>913488
>>899102
Is hooking up for sex at a furry convention any different from hooking up at any other kind of con? Is it just that there are more people open to the idea of going back to each others' hotel rooms and banging?
>Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Yes. A fucking cat.
>Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
Yes. $10 tho.
>Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Totally meant to last con but got too drunk and couldn't make it to artist ally on time.
>Do you own a fursuit?
No, but I want one.
>Have you gone to a furry convention?
See above answer.
>Have you had sex at a furry convention?
No, but I met someone there then did it the following weekend,
I made one of those wintercroft paper masks for Halloween, and later on fucked my gf while she was wearing it.
I told her I liked it but I didn't quite let on that I really REALLY liked it holy shit.
OP here. Looks like this thread is winding down for real now, so I wanted to say thanks to everyone for helping satisfy my curiosity.
>>926675
You should have sex with your pets
>>851734
Nope to everything. I'm a "furry" for the art only....and rarely some stories.
[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Yes. A ram
[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
No, I draw shit myself.
[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Nope. Draw lewds myself, but none of my fursona
[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
If I had a partner that wanted one I would
[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
No, but really want to
[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Nope.
>>927164
sauce?
>>931148
Artist is Patto, same as all the other pictures I've posted in the thread. That was an old picture, though, so their style's become pretty different.
>>931262
explains why I didn't recognize it, thanks anon
>>931320
No problem.
>>851734
>[X] Have you made up a fursona for yourself?
Fox
>[ ] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
nope if i want art i draw it myself, but one day maybe.
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission?
nope
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
I want one though
>[X] Have you gone to a furry convention?
Furnal Equinox 2015, probably going to be there for 2016 march 18 - 20 one of those days
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
I really want to though (male gay 17)
>>851734
None of that shit. I just fap to the porn as a guilty pleasure.
If actual furries were real I'd take up arms and kill them in the name of God.
>>932255
Don't lie, you'd be fucking them like everyone else in this thread
>>851849
same. in my case the art doesn't even have to be great, i generally love everything 2d, cute and female.
and 2ds tend to be cute, yeah.
>>851734
>[X] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Not for myself. I don't think I would ever, either. I DO have, like, 3 adopts, and 3 self made ones, though. Favorite one's a mouse. Mice are cute. Even real mice, when they aren't being a plague on your domicile.
>[X] Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
Yes? I've only bought YCHs though, so idk if that counts. The rest were requests from friends. Pic related.
>[X] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
Pic still related. I don't pay top dollar for my porn, though, because my furry characters aren't a top dollar investment. One day I may get bored of them and either sell them or bury them in a purgatory of non-use. On the other hand, I may splurge on a really nice commission if I ever want to and have the money.
>[NO ] Do you own a fursuit?
No, and I don't have the emotional physical symbiosis with my fursonas/characters/whatever to wanna get o e either.
>[NO] Have you gone to a furry convention?
No. Would I? No. I'm too perturbed by the overall community to try and sift through it and find anything I'd find pleasant.
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
No. I would try if I went, but outside of that, no.
>>851734
>[ ] Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
Nope. I tried once, but I like being human too much. I just want to fuck lots of cute animal girls.
>[ ] Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission (Doesn't have to be of your fursona)
>paying for porn
I'm considering commissioning a pic of my waifu though, but not porn.
>[ ] Do you own a fursuit?
Nope.
>[ ] Have you gone to a furry convention?
If a bronycon counts
>[ ] Have you had sex at a furry convention?
Nah, fuck that.
>>948571
>trolling with arguments on beastiality
Jesus that was a painful read. The fact that the one who defended not doing it resorted to childish tactics speaks volumes, though. Ggnore, supporters/outsiders with no opinion, you came out the more mature one.
>>851734
No to all, I've just fapped to the porn a dozen times at most. Pretty much to pic related 3 or 4 times and a few transformation pictures.
>>919597
Got laid more in lazy L cosplay, barely any makeup. Furries talk a lot of shit but they're more socially impaired than weebs.
Have you made up a fursona for yourself? (Bonus Question: What species is it?)
I've been meaning to, It would be a fox when I do make it.
Have you paid for a commission of your fursona?
I paid a commission for a furry character I made.
Have you paid for a lewd/porn commission
no
Do you own a fursuit?
I would not be willing to spend the money on one.
Have you gone to a furry convention?
I've been to a few anime cons, they were really boring, so I have no plans to go to other kinds of cons.
Have you had sex at a furry convention?
That would be pretty funny.
>>851734
Besides fapping, I've done none of the things you've listed.
>>851849
Same here. I find the standard furry art really suit my taste.
>>948868
What did my post have to do with bestiality?
>All this zoophilia shit
>but...but we don't really want to fuck animals guise, I swear.
Furries are pathetic and should be put to death
