>really like artist's work
>offer to commission them
>"Thanks, but I'm not good enough for that, sorry."
>>4027396
Who
>>4027396
Be glad they're aware of their limitations. Better than an artist taking on more than they can handle, and disappearing on you.
>>4027396
Could be code for "I don't like the idea enough to feel like I could give 100% on it"
Or maybe you asked for something way complex, and he just needed something polite to tell you.
>>4027423
Dogyd
I've been offerred commissions and I've responded the same.
>>4031083
why though?
>>4031083
>See thread
>This
I am genuinely curious too.
>>4027396
>artists does amazing sexy work
>"they dont do commissions"
Fucking gooks
>>4037291
>tfw separating hobby from a career
>tfw still enjoying my hobby in free time
>tfw roundeye gets upset
>>4037349
>Not wanting to be paid for your hobby once in a while
Fucking slants, man.
Not him and I'm kidding, honestly.
But nonetheless, what would be so bad about taking a commission with "it may take a while" as a warning?
>>4037449
>Do one commission
>HEY CHECK OUT WHAT THIS ARTIST JUST DREW FOR ME
>Proceed to fake your own death and think of a new name
>>4027396
Holy shit this is me.
I don't always respond with this, but it's usually how I feel.
I feel much better taking requests then I do taking commissions.
Is it weird that I'd rather do shit for free than get paid for it?
>>4037826
may I see your art
>>4038062
D-Do I have to....?
>>4038134
No, I just asked is all
>>4038134
If it's immediately recognizable from anyone on /trash/ without having to look it up, you belong here anyway, so no big deal.
If it's not, then it's still no big deal.
Not him.
As for your original question, no it's not weird. People get into habits and then prefer to stay in their habit circles, you are used to Requests, cause they're no pressure things, while Commissions, you are expected to perform and it's a totally different mindset.
>offer trade to an artist because I do writing for a kink they have and they complained about lack of fics before
>they says no because they have artist's block right now
>looking at their page seems to confirm this
>wait a few months till i have some money
>they open commissions
>i message them again saying i have actual cash and do they have any spots open?
>they say it's full but check back in a week
>a week goes by, i send an email
>no response in 2 weeks
>send a message on tumblr again
>no response in 2 weeks
Is it me, /trash/? I really like this artist, I want to fucking buy something.
>>4038882
See if you can get ahold of their phone number; they can't ignore you easily at that point.
So... is this going to become a shill thread?
>>4041203
I hope so... some of the shill threads on other boards have been pretty chill.
>>4038280
Yeah, I guess my stuff's pretty recognizable. I dunno.
Also I never thought about it like that.
Being in a habit with performance issues and all.
Although I do believe part of it is I'm really just not comfortable taking money.
>>4027396
I'm an artist that said this in the past. Then I started taking commissions and my customers were saying "wow, that's really cheap, you should charge more."
I guess I was uncomfortable with asking a lot of money for a picture. I mean, I wouldn't pay $75 - $100 for a lewd picture of cartoon characters. Fuck me, who has that kind of money?
Also, I'm not sure if other artists feel this way, but I tend to get bored with what I draw and go from doodling one thing to sketching another. Since commissions are usually big projects that require a lot of time and work, I get disparaged quickly and wish I hadn't taken on the request. That makes my work suffer and is a rip-off to the client, which makes me feel like shit further.
And don't get me started on fetishes.
>"You do commissions?"
>"Yep."
>"Cool. Can you draw a baby furry in a soiled diaper being cock-vored by my pony OC "
Maybe I'm a massive normalfag, and, I mean, I get that they're willing to pay for it, but it's shit that I'm quite frankly uncomfortable with drawing. Especially the whole diaper fetish. To each their own. I'm not judging those people, I just worked as an LNA at an old folks home in the past, so you'll forgive me if I gag at the thought.
I also stopped getting commission requests, so I sort of stopped saying that I take commissions. I suppose if one turns up, I might entertain it, but it depends.
>>4038930
Ha ha.
Really the worst thing about this is that I have to find another artist. I take a long time to decide on things.
You guys gonna start shilling or what?
>offer commission
>"thanks but there's better artists you could use that money on."
>>4037826
Nah it isn't weird. I get why since money on the line adds a lot more pressure and people can be super picky with commissions
>artist only does YCHs
>>4048472
>normalfag line
No, you're fine honestly. That's why many artists have a "will not draw" section in their Commissions page(s) that only grows with time because they meet all the weirdos eventually.
That said, if you aren't getting commissions anymore, there's a number of reasons.
>Your prices are too high for most people (I doubt, but let's hear 'em or see a comm sheet)
>Your art is shit (let's see an example to decide, I do doubt overall)
>Generally, you serve a relatively small number of people and thus when they got what they wanted out of you, they basically just fucked off and might come back in time
That last one is most likely with many "smaller" artists who start dabbling in Commissions.
>>4027396
I say this a lot, or I let people choose their prices depending on what they want. I normally give a general ballpark of what was paid for their desired tier though and it's their choice how high or low they pay.
>>4049328
Sure, I'll break the ice.
I currently only have one commission slot open.
>>4055008
>Canadian
>>4037114
>>4037196
1. Because I'm not very good, or at least I have terrible self esteem. If I charged somebody money for it i'd feel like shit for ripping them off.
2. If I like the concept they want to draw, I'm perfectly happy to draw it for free.
3. If I didn't like the concept, then I don't think I'd do a very good job on it. And then it certainly wouldn't want to charge money for something I think is subpar. And the added pressure of money being involved would only make it all the worse.
>>4055081
Don't make me politely tell you to take off, hoser.
>>4055086
I see.
Well then, to each their own. Best of luck, Anon.
Also, taking weird, requests? :^)
(Weird, not insane furshit)
>>4055144
bring it, syrup sucker
>>4055176
I swear, I'll jersey you, burn down the White House, and send you nothing but crappy flash cartoons until the end of time.
...and then apologize for it.
>>4055236
I WONT accept your apology
>>4055762
Oh, sorry about that, eh.
(are we done yet?)
>>4055983
sure
So... more shilling?
Any more stories of commissions gone wrong/right?
Anyone want to post pictures that they've commissioned?
>Artist does requests
Why would you put yourself through such horrors?
>>4055149
I'm always willing to listen.
>>4057038
open requests on an artsite? recipe for disaster
Doing them on anonymous, no obligation chansites? Good place to get free ideas.
>>4056904
Well, here's my most recent finished commission, if that helps.
>>4056904
I had a guy approach me several times requesting me to draw his wife getting raped. Creepy as all hell.
>>4027396
>artist used to do animation loops
>they are good
>later on stops doing animation commissions
>he'll probably go back doing them or just never
Get back here and do them again. I'll give you all my money you fucker!
>>4057065
The duo in pic related making out, perhaps?
This is not capitalist approved
CANS.WAV
>>4054343
>artist does YCH, price ends up being more than what it would have cost to just commission them for about the same level of detail
>>4056904
Got this commission from BlushMallet. Literally $25.
>>4054583
>Your prices are too high for most people (I doubt, but let's hear 'em or see a comm sheet)
I don't have a sheet, really. I like to hear the idea then give an estimate to see if they think it's reasonable. Like I said, they tend to say the price is pretty cheap.
>Your art is shit (let's see an example to decide, I do doubt overall)
I won't lie, like 95% of the shit I've drawn has been pony related. As luck would have it, my ex was a big fan of MLP since she was a little girl and got into the new show. We both already lurked different boards and she found /mlp/ and encouraged me to draw for it. So I got back into drawing and /mlp/ was really the only avenue I had. I drew a 20 page comic that skyrocketed my "fame" among that /mlp/ community and I only really still hang around there because I created a lot of characters for a certain thread that are basically half-breeds of human and horse. I'm best at drawing humans anyway.
>Generally, you serve a relatively small number of people and thus when they got what they wanted out of you, they basically just fucked off and might come back in time
Well, we know how many ponyfags there are out there.
I think the reason why I don't get commission requests anymore is because I took a long break when life took a shit on me and I sort of faded from the limelight. That and I stay pretty busy with work.
>Try doing commissions
>Just end up feeling stressed because now I feel forced to finish a drawing
>Stopped doing commissions
I still go to draw threads and do request there because I can pick which ones I would enjoy drawing. I think doing commissions is just not for me
>>4077233
oh hey DJ, hows it going? thanks for helping force the satyr general I wasted years writing for that thing
>>4067798
>Artist normally does 1-character colored commissions for around $150-$200
>Every now and then has some kind of emergency like taxes due
>drops price to $80 for short time
>Am too broke to commission them then
>Later on, artist states they aren't doing any more commissions any time soon
>Only do YCH auctions
>Generally tops out at $300+
Why must I suffer? I literally just want one image from them and i'd be happy with never being able to commission them again.
What the fuck happened over here?
>>>/d/6911341
>>4055008
Here's my most recent commission. Still have one commission slot open, so get it while you can.
>Find a relatively new artist, back when they were taking requests
>Ask them if they could draw a fairly tame fetish, because good art of it has been getting rarer lately
>"Sorry, I won't draw that"; never had any indication beforehand that they wouldn't draw it
>Think "whatever"
>Fast-forward a couple of months
>I now see their art fucking everywhere
>Being constantly reminded why my fetish will never become popular again, because nobody who's decent at drawing ever wants to fucking draw it
I want to hang.
>>4085422
well tell us what fetish it is anon.
>>4085422
>"Fairly tame"
It was filled diapers wasn't it
>>4085460
Egg laying.
>>4085529
Oh damn is that all?
cannibal-prince.tumblr.com may be up your alley. I follow them for stuffing, but they do a lot of egg stuff, on humans and pokes and anthros.
http://cannibal-prince.tumblr.com/tagged/oviposition
>>4085529
the fuck? of all the shit i myself have been asked to draw that's really vanilla
i have no idea why the guy wouldnt do that for you
>>4086002
I've got limited money, so doing so may not be the best decision for me.
I'm just frustrated that nobody'll do out of their own volition.
But if it comes down to it I may just blow a bunch of my money just to see it get done more often, despite the obvious downsides of doing such a thing.
>>4085670
I assume some artists avoid drawing even tame fetishes because some people will misinterpret it as being a fetish the artist has themselves, even if "commission for HorseDix88" is clearly shown in the description.
That, or a feeling of being ill-suited for the job. If you can't relate to that fetish, you wouldn't understand the subtleties that make the fetish appealing to people, and the quality of the work might suffer.
>>4086398
>If you can't relate to that fetish, you wouldn't understand the subtleties that make the fetish appealing to people, and the quality of the work might suffer
This is my hang up. I couldn't explain why I'd give my life for the sake of tits to an alien, and I know I'd never be able to capture a jean short fetish if I didn't carry it as well
Anyone else want to do commissions but have no idea how to price anything? Figuring out how much you're worth is hard.
>>4095738
That's a problem I had too. I found a price I like to work for, but any deviation from that and I don't know what to charge.
Charge whatever makes it worth your time to do. whatever you charge, someone out there will pay it. The main issue you might run into if is you aren't popular enough for those people to know about you.
>>4095738
Sometimes you have to start by charging less if you're not that popular.
>>4095738
I remember there was an app for determining how much you should commission based on how much time you took
>YCH raffle
>winner has the decency to pick a canon character
>>4102164
This is what i'd do if I had money for YCH auctions. Why pick an ugly sparkledog when you can pick something that actually looks nice?
>>4102196
>This is what i'd do if I had money for YCH auctions
That's the problem though. You think you're going to win a YCH with your 30$ when here comes Autismo McSparkledog with his hundreds of dollars to guarantee the slot of having his ugly fursona drawn to add to his collection of other YCHs of his fursona.
>>4105958
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/16380740/
>>4106093
>1750
Gonna get my first commission from Michiyoshi soon. I hope the language barrier isn't too much of a problem.
>>4108431
That YCH is from over a year ago, so it's probably been finished.
>>4108431
It was already done. Back in 2015, in fact.
I can't seem to find the other pic though.
>>4109071
Found it
>>4105958
>>4106093
at this rate I'm wondering if the concept of auctions was made by a kike
>>4107248
Try to keep your description simple, and if possible, provide a pose reference to clarify, as his English isn't perfect.
>>4031043
>be me
>not this good
>$10 commisions
>confidencefeelsgoodman
I love to draw weird or extreme content. The more obscene, the better (but I don't post it often because I have had too many accounts banned).
>>4056904
>>Any more stories of commissions gone wrong/right?
Gone right
>Guys has the hots for his Mom.
>Make some dirty drawings of her pregnant.
>A year later he emails me again.
>They fucked and are now in a relationship, expecting a baby. Sent me pics and all.
>tfw your smut becomes a reality.
May God bless their souls.
Gone wrong
>One had a bad case of endless revisions. Took over a month to finish it.
>Mostly happens with Non-English speakers who can't articulate what they want.
I can't really complain having read some horrors stories from here.
>>4113363
>>Guys has the hots for his Mom.
Wait, what?
>>4113903
*Guy.
Single. Wanted to fuck his Mother.
>>4114095
And now they're in a relationship?
O-okay
>>4114246
Come on anon, don't tell me you think there is something wrong with incest :^)
>>4114280
Normally, no, but I draw the line at reproduction
Nothing good ever comes out of that
>>4114344
That's a pretty common myth, it's actually second generation incestuous children with a higher risk of defect.
So if they just keep it between them, and don't start diddling the kid it'd be without particularly elevated risk.
[spoiler]From what I hear[/spoiler]
anyone know about open commissions for gay themed fetishes?
>>4115085
Which ones?
>>4115221
body possession/body swap
which is weird cuz i'm in shape enough that a guy told me that he wishes he was me and I guess I get off on the thought of a horny person riding me like a vehicle to fuck around
>>4115536
How would you even convey that in a picture?
>>4115616
I'm not the artist here. Why bother asking me?
>>4115704
If you can't answer, how are you going to be able to tell the artist what you want? That's the sort of vague request that artists hate.
>>4027396
>be artist
>just want to draw lewds and vanillas
>no one commissions me
I brought it on myself.
>>4115900
I know what you mean, man. The real money's in fetish stuff.
>>4112044
Let's see your art
>>4027396
Be happy with that response.
Because you might end up with something that's totally off model from what the artist usually draws, if it's beyond the skill level.
It's super easy to bight off more than you can chew.
If you're not an artist, or let's say if you're not a self aware artist, then you won't really know that feel, but it's great that artists know their limits.
I once took a commission that turned out to be 5x more work than I anticipated and the end result suffered for it.
>>4086398
>I assume some artists avoid drawing even tame fetishes because some people will misinterpret it as being a fetish the artist has themselves.
I avoid drawing some fetishes just based on the fact that I don't want the more autistic people hanging around my page and sending me commission requests.
Also these crazies for some reason seem to have an endless amount of money, so when you start drawing stuff for them, you might find yourself drawing 50 pictures of the same subject.
>>4115900
Post link. Turbo vanilla is my shit.
>>4095738
I'd think art commissions wouldn't be too hard to work out, but I'm a writer who's been asked about commissions. How do you go about working that out?
>>4120072
I've heard that crazies begging artists to roleplay with them are also a common problem. Is that true?
>>4113363
Sent you an email
>>4120732
Not that anon, but the only rp request I ever got was very polite even after I said no. I only have about 800 watchers, though, so I'm sure someone with 10k might have more insistent fans.
>>4055086
This is exactly why I will never take comissions or even pursue a job in art/design
I even stopped drawing for like 2 years now so all that skill I built up has gone to waste, so theres even less reason to now.
Why even bother with commissions anyway? It's all those stupid and autistic OC commissioners who have all the money so you'll never get a shot.
>>4095738
I like this little app for keeping track of work.
http://neilblr.com/post/58757345346
Basically I ask myself what's the minimum amount of money it takes to make me want to draw someone's character versus dicking around for an hour.
Shilling, I guess. Say you saw this on /trash/ for a 15% discount. 3 slots open right now.
>>4031043
You have to remember that that particular artist is still trying to learn to draw, so if its something overly complex or out of his element it would naturally push him away, he use to keep appearing in Help threads trying to git gud. He does have problems if you really look at his work, and he knows the problems are there.
What was it that was so complex?
>>4120388
This one is half finished, but it's the lewdest I got so far. I want to make sure it's what people wants before I go full nsfw.
>>4086106
Hey. Smallhorsefan.tumblr.com send me a message with what you want and I'll draw it. I'm doing mlp requests from the trash thread this evening, but I'd be happy to draw you an egg laying pic too. Doesn't have to be pony related.
>>4123987
Oh hey, you're that artist who considered doing that peryton pic for me if the other artist didn't deliver.
Alright, I've got a Tumblr account, let me think about what I want and I'll send you an anon message there. Do you do Pokemon by any chance?
>>4124598
Sure. I've drawn a few before but they're not on tumblr.
>>4124598
Oh please link me a refund for the Pokemon or whatever though. I am much too lazy to want to look things up for myself. You can link an egg laying pic you like too, so I can get an idea of what you're going for.
>>4124741
Refund is reference. Fucking phone.
>>4124934
I'll respect your privacy, don't worry.
>>4123404
You don't have to draw every single muscle to show a body
Learn to simplify
Less is more
>>4123404
Love the muscle tone, looks fantastic. Wish more artists shaded some tone in there. Can't stand plain blobs or two color "shading"
>>4125128
Not that anon, but fuck oversimplifying the body.
Simplifying easily makes everything look like a shapeless fat boring mass and absolutely everyone seems to be doing it nowadays.
Not to mention it inspires laziness in beginning artists and they don't bother to learn what the body really looks like.
They just jump straight into doing simple soft shapes, because they're fairly forgiving and call it a day.
Which is on par with shooting yourself in the leg artistically.
If anything, we need more artist showing some physique in their characters, like art did in the late 90s and early 00s.
>>4125439
It also depends on how much body fat the character's supposed to have, so it's not just the musculature. You can have a Bruce Lee physique with absolutely no body fat and extremely well toned muscles, but that also makes a less curvaceous, feminine figure. Most people, even the most physically fit, have a balance of the two.
I can agree that it doesn't need to be simplified, but maybe the shading for the muscles could be made less dark, so the skin doesn't look as tightly wrapped (i.e. giving the figure a smoothness that body fat provides).
>>4125128
OP here, I just love muscular girls, and thick thighs.
>>4027396
>mfw trying to improve my art vastly
>even then not entirely sure if I want to do commissions as I honestly don't want to get too popular/known as I have other objectives
>not even sure what to price my commissions at
Plus people like my more toony stuff when I've been trying to move from that for a good while now. I just want to draw baras and the occasional furry chick. Kind of wish we had another art thread in /trash/ like last time. It was an alright thread.
>>4027423
Outta Sync
>artist charges a reasonable price for commissions, explains that each one requires about a day of work and he barely makes minimum wage this way
>fandom calls him greedy
Man i'd love to get that fat commission money. But there's so much refining to my style and method that needs to be done. Not to mention nailing down colours and shit. But man when I do [spoiler]I hope I don't let them down[/spoiler]
>>4139934
Do they have a tumblr somewhere?
>>4055086
>i have terrible self esteem
I hope you realize what a shitty cop-out this is. Someone obviously likes your art enough to offer to pay you for it, at least have the courtesy to give them a better reason than "no i hate myself :("
Take some responsibility for yourself
>>4107248
>see Michiyoshi open a slot
>send a message a day later
>get this
Well darn, I hope your commission turns out great anon. Just wish I was a little faster.
>>4142033
Point those faggots out to the kikes who get triple and quadruple-digit shekels for YCH auctions.
>>4145082
That's the same message I got around a week ago. He just got back to me 2 days ago and gave me a sketch yesterday. you'll get your turn, don't worry.
>>4143910
Nope. Not even any contact info.
You have to catch then in random threads on different boards here.
I wish they'd go ahead and make one so I can see all their work at once and talk to them.
>>4114344
nah, the "High chance of having a defective child" thing doesn't actually kick in until second or third generation inbreeding.
If you fuck your mom, sister, cousin, whatever and a kid comes from it, things are actually fine as long as the kid doesn't start inbreeding with one of the parents
>>4142033
it's one of those things that ties in with "You shouldn't need to make money with your art. It's not a real job"
>>4031043
Isn't that the guy that draws Katt all the time?
Fuck I love that he's a Kattfag and an artist, but I wish he didn't draw her so thicc. Katt is for lean athletic desu
>>4148071
>I wish I didn't draw her so thicc
>>4145950
Their DeviantArt is Mataknight. Maybe contact them there?
>>4148071
>Not liking thicc
>>4148377
It seems like they're trying to keep the two names separate.
I'm not sure if they'll do nsfw stuff.
I haven't seen any commission info on their site, either.
>>4148883
>liking thicc is a meme
yeah ok
Don't die yet.
>>4121687
Basically this
>>4037291
That's a good thing. Means I never, EVER have to witness shitty autistic OCs I see all the time drawn by them
>>4159403
this
>commission an artist
>a few days later get a refund
>"I'm burnt out and not in the mood to keep drawing, sorry."
>closes commissions and remains inactive forever
>>4163580
Coincidental that yours killed it, they probably felt "they weren't good enough."
Does suck, though.
Still better than people like Trinity Fate who just don't even show most of their shit anymore because "Only their Patrons are paying, so why should everyone else get to see all this art?"
Cause he's stopped showing a TON of stuff on his DA/FA/Tumblr that sits in his Patreon pages getting circlejerked to no end.
>>4163661
>Trinity Fate
That guy has been totally fucked by Patreon.
>Doesn't even announce commissions opening anymore outside Patreon
>Has posted (1) page of a comic this month on his DA, which used to be his main source of where he put shit that wasn't pure Furry
>Posted only (5) things last month, all of which were at least a month old
>NOTHING in May
>Hasn't posted since the February one back in fucking April
>Has posted a TON of work on his Patreon that just sits there and rots
>Hasn't directly interacted with anyone on DA except commissions (if you get in) since January
>Making <$600 a month off Patreon
>Acts like he NEEDS it and blames his comic for delays in his art, when you can clearly see that's not the case
Etc.
>>4163580
At least they refunded you and didn't just disappear with the money
>Hit an art block.
>Damn, I really need to get these damn commissions done. Get them done you fucker!
>Have them open in front of me all the damn time.
>Look at my notes, realize I sent a message to one of my commissioners about a month ago.
>Mfw.
Fuck.
Well at least these guys didn't pay beforehand.
Also:
>Can't get on with commissions at all.
>Try drawing something personal for a while, the fuck, I have no problems at all doing this.
>Get lines on paper without a hitch.
I think the problem stems from me stressing about the commissions and wanting to deliver a product, that's above and beyond what people are expecting.
I just can't give people a product I'm not totally happy with.
Guess it works though.
I've offered a discount in the past due to wait like this and instead the commissioners slapped a 30% tip on the price, because they were happy with the product and are now throwing more money at me.
It's just that making person wait for longer than 2-3 weeks, makes me feel like a total scumbag, since I should be able to produce this stuff under two or three days easily.
>>4164022
Likewise, Ive left someone waiting 3 months, ive told them it would be a while because I took too many at once but I feel really bad for it, Im on the cusp of giving them it for free because ive strung them along so long. I can get my own drawings done in a few hours at times but with commissions I just cant do it, even if I like the request, I think Id rather draw for free to be honest.
quick, recommend me a decent artist for some toon mink porn
I'll do $20 commissions if anyone wants some.
>>4166283
The price is the same for colored or black and white. Just message me on tumblr.
http://redmatsumoto.tumblr.com
>>4037291
>Blockdevil will never draw your thighfu
>Blockdevil will never draw your chubsbando
Why even live?
So is it not worth getting a commission from Trinity?
>>4142033
who?
How does one get past the sadfox on yiff.party?
>>4181876
You can't, it's invitation only. Don't ask
>>4166283
>>4166307
>20$
>>4181876
click the authorization link.
>artist stop taking commissions and does YCHs only
>>4187454
Slugbox. always wanted a commision from him, and now it'll never happen unless he gets into another tax emergency or something. Nothing but YCH auctions for days.
>>4187915
>Slugbox
One of the few people who could probably make a neon green sparkledog OC look good.
>Find artist that does adorable art
>approach them regarding fetishes and the like
>Suggest <my fetish>, they've never done it before but doesn't strictly oppose it, instead ask why I'm into it
>After a decent explanation, they agree to take on a commission
>They find out they really like <my fetish>, and tell me I'm the reason they ever found out.
>Becomes my #1 go-to for <my fetish> commissions
>One day, has to leave for another country, unsure when they'd come back
This was two years ago.
It still hurts.
>>4194212
>turns out it was an abandonment fetish
Oh, sweet irony.
>>4194252
Nah, it was scat, dunno why I didn't just write that out at first.
>>4194275
>scat
Suddenly, I don't feel so bad for you.
But, to each their own, I guess.
>>4194317
Well, it feels bad to me, and I do miss talking to the artist casually like we used to back before she went AWOL with nary but a post on her tumblr.
But yeah, to each their own.
>>4194335
>her
What?! You got a female artist into scat? No way. I bet "she's" actually a tranny.
>>4200803
I don't know, I sincerely doubt it, considering I've got a few female artist friends.
>>4185388
Tried that, followed the instructions in the threads, still doesn't work. It might be because I'm on mobile, but I'm not sure.
>>4027396
As a mechfag, I know that pain too well.
