/tup/ - Tulpa general
>What are tulpas?
A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you.
More info: http://www.tulpa.info/faq/
>What guides do you recommend?
Check these out:
https://community.tulpa.info/thread-new-great-big-list-of-guides
Ask questions and get answers, or discuss tulpas in general
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>>3274788
TUPP'S FAVORITE MUSIC
GO
>>3274883
Tycho
>>3274883
Crona doesn't listen to much music, but they lean towards upbeat kpop and jpop, and ambient... and yours?
>>3274950
nice
>>3274883
Once upon a time, my girl showed a big affinity to this song in particular:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VXenef8cBdU
My other gal seems to like Zero Project quite a bit. I believe she was particularly charmed by either the albums Fairy Tale or Untold Stories of a Dying Moon. Zero's site is here:
http://www.zero-project.gr/
>>3274883
Aphex Twin
Xth for human tups!
>>3275323
+1
>>3275323
They don't know exactly what they are, but they'll glady join the humans
Pony tuppers are very cute and cuddly.
>>3275570
Instead of saying "they" all the time you can probably dictate direct posts.
>>3274883
Death metal and a host of OSTs respectively.
What determines the making of a new thread?
I always end up missing it and posting another reply like here >>3277981
Also, do you celebrate your tupper's birthday?
>>3278007
Once it reaches 300 posts
>>3278007
My tup prefers not to have it celebrated.
>>3274883
Knife Party
>>3274883
Eldest likes classical or modern classical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4jdLygR-dI
Middle loves heavy metal or hard rock mainly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwtehku2UQw
Youngest likes modern pop music mainly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrO4YZeyl0I
>>3274883
She's indifferent, though there are songs in my playlist that she absolutely loves.
In fact, there was a song yesterday she I like but always skip because it reminds me of bad things, but yesterday she made me listen to it but to focus on her and just enjoy the song, and it was really nice.
Also, haven't had her around long enough to celebrate her birthday yet, but I definitely plan on doing it. I'll probably take some time off work or something and spend the day doing stuff she wants, i dunno.
>>3274883
Alestorm
>>3280999
Is your tupper a cute pirate girl
>>3281113
Nazi wolf girl, actually.
>>3281124
>Cartoons can't be waifus
But can they be Tulpa?
>>3277289
Crona is the they I'm referring to...
>>3281249
Just make Frankie from Foster's
>>3281249
absolutely
I'm guessing that's from an obscure /co/ comic because I don't recognize it.
>>3281373
Exactly. Instead of saying "Crona feels", crona could just say things that you type exactly as heard.
"I feel" vs. "they feel"
>>3278007
oh god i always celebrate Crona's birthday, I'd honestly feel so bad if i didnt
>>3281124
Can I see her?
>>3281249
Whos the cutie?
>>3281398
So.. wait, are you saying I would just speak for my tupla..? That just seems confusing, differentiating between the personalities.
I mean it might just be me, aside from having tuplas, I also have MPD so I just find refering to everything that isnt 'me' as something else easier.
>>3281449
>Has MPD
>Makes a tulpa
>Hard time differentiating between them
Yikes m8
>>3281473
Well you don't have to be rude.
Okay since I've seen a few people asking. It's sharing time! Post pictures of your lovely brain demon(s).
>>3281796
>>3281796
no.
>>3281796
>>3281796
reporting
>>3281249
what a qt
>>3281394
>obscure
you haven't been on /co/ long enough then
What's the first thing I should do when making a tulpa?
>>3282864
the first thing you should do is look at the guides
>>3282864
I made (a small part of) my wonderland first. Didn't even start with the tulpa until two weeks later.
>>3282864
Sacrifice a virgin to please the gods.
Honestly, you should probably read up about it, and what all it entails, perhaps lurk in one of these threads, decide what's best for you, etc. It's a pretty big process, and it never ends, so you have to be prepared for that. I'd say your first course of action would be to educate yourself on tulpa if you haven't.
>>3282958
I'm not that guy but what guide is probably the best? Or is this the kinda thing where there is not one way to do it?
>>3283028
Definitely many ways to do it, and most people will say read all of the guides. However, I am a strong supporter of this one.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iiFxZ9PYXXxSqWHdU2YoPsGfJr90w8aIG_evqc1wiY/edit
>>3283028
It's the kind of thing where [spoiler]no one really knows what they're doing so there's a general system in place, but you mostly just wing it moment to moment.
>>3283094
ya fucked up
>>3283124
Not the same guy, but how? I hardly followed the guides and seem to be doing all right.
>>3283139
I'm just messing around with his spoiler.
>>3283305
Oh, gotcha
to people still developing their tuplas
do you take days off?
im thinking of taking the weekends off and paying little to no attention to my tulpa
>>3283462
I have finals until the end of this week, and the time I'm not in classes I'm at work. In fact, I've only been able to force on Mondays at night. So kinda, I guess, but in the foreseeable future not so much.
>>3283462
Not really. It's okay not to do active forcing, but passive forcing is pretty easy to do and doesn't require a lot of concentration, plus it's one of those habits that has a lot of inertia, so you don't wanna stop since it'll take forever to get it started again. You can just try chilling with your tulpa and relaxing with them on the weekends. It doesn't require much effort and it helps make your mind 'comfortable' with the idea of a tulpa.
>>3281124
U wot?
>>3281796
>>3282007
Looks like undyanon is back.
>>3282864
Read a guide.
>>3283670
How do you passive force?
>>3283906
At the core, passive forcing is maintaining the feeling that your tulpa's with you and helping them understand the world and how you think. This takes a variety of forms (narrating what you're doing, asking them questions about stuff, explaining stuff, imagining them in your peripheral vision are a few popular ones).
>>3283998
what about imaginging one sitting behind me?
>>3284046
Yeah, that'll work. Just remember to also narrate and ask questions, that's a pretty big boost.
>>3283071
He mentions seeing your tulpa in your mind's eye. Is that a fancy way of saying "use your imagination"?
>>3281796
Sup
>>3285320
Pretty much. But more specifically, instead of closing your eyes and picturing a whole scenario, the mind's eye is reffered to when you use this imagination in an actual material world enviroment instead. Like picturing an apple in your dining table that isn't really there.
>>3285320
To do this, I close my eyes and imagine things, but not, how should I put it... I visualize it as if I was getting input from my eyes. So, I do not see anything, but the input going to my brain says I am. I dont know, maybe Im just nuts.
Can you start with auditory imposition, even if you hear nothing from mindvoice? Would I be able to hear my tulpa's first words in real voice, and not mindvoice or thought? Sorry, I'm new to all of this.
>>3281796
Had to edit an image to get to this point, but this is pretty spot on.
>>3285753
Don't do this. There's zero chance that you will be able to have auditory hallucinations without being able to hear it in mindvoice, I guarantee it.
Regardless, the vast majority of people with tups will never reach auditory imposition, imposition as a whole is very difficult.
>>3285320
Yes, come up with an image and concept and create an imaginary version of it that you can have one sided conversations with it for 1 to 12 months
This may sound like creepypasta or something, but I promise it isn't. I really need some advice. I haven't done any tulpamancy in years, and back when I did do it I tried to make and then abandoned several tulpae. Yesterday, three of them made contact with me out of the blue. Only one is advanced enough to have a conversation with me and she claims to represent all three. Normally I would be thrilled, but they want a sign that I won't lose interest and leave them again. She has asked for a liter of my blood as an act of faith. I don't think they wish me harm, they just want me to spill and dedicate some of my life essence to form a bond. Is this normal? I'm seriously considering acquiescing here.
>>3288008
Me again, BTW they all have names now, and not the ones I gave them. I'm not sure how the less formed ones managed, maybe the smartest of the three named them?
I've had a problem for the last few years now and I am wondering if it is normal. I tried to kill my Tulpa, stop believing in her, stop seeing her. It initially worked for awhile. Recently (last 4 months) she has reappeared and disappeared spontaneously. Every time she is angery and can't speak. It has been really creepy. Anyone had anything like this happen to them.
Why is sex with non-active tulpas seen as bad?
Is it just because of our general social norms regarding sex?
>>3288082
This is a great thing called "Actual schizophrenia".
>>3288632
It's because
1. They can't really enjoy it much, as they lack depth in emotion
2. They probably don't WANT to. They haven't known you for long, and you didn't really ask or receive a yes.
3
>>3288654
Don't tulpas know everything you know? To the point they can even tell if you're lying or not and your true emotions?
>>3288715
Me and my tup can lie to each other, and hide information from each other. I guess it just depends on what sort of boundaries you put up.
>>3288829
How about you get them all to the point of talking before you do anything else?
>>3288829
Well you should assert your dominance, you have a clear case of "tulpa has you by the balls". Tell them you are the man, but you're looking to put aside your past and start fresh (if that's what you want). Your tulpas are still probably in development, which means that you can change any aspect about them. If your tulpa is giving you beef turn them into a cow.
>>3288980
It isn't about causing me an injury or pain though, it's about bonding and commitment.
>>3289024
I don't want to ignore their needs but I'll see if maybe I can do something instead.
>>3288989
also a good idea
>>3288632
1.It shows you think of them of the onahole if you're already fucking them before you've even met
2.They can't properly enjoy it
3.You don't even know if they want it.
>>3289531
Well I've fucked my tulpa about six times.
I thought tulpas knew everything the host did so I thought she'd know I wasn't just using her for sex
Reminder that pony tuppers are the best for cuddles and love.
>>3288008
See if you can get it down to a pint or pay in installments. Losing more than a pint at once can be dangerous.
>>3281796
>>3289701
About an hour and a half ago I started getting emotional responses from my tulpa. She can't talk yet, but I worked out a basic yes and no system that has been accurate enough that I consider it to be her responses.
She can't even talk yet, and she thinks that ponies are shit.
>>3279333
Deftones?
>>3289923
>She can't even talk yet, and she thinks that ponies are shit.
You done fucked up
>>3281796
This except black hair.
>>3289956
Explain
>>3281249
Tulpas are 90% roleplaying, 9% schizos and 1% Poltergeist.
I wish active forcing was so boring.
I'm told looking at it as a chore is bad, but I can't help it. There's just nothing to do, if she could at least talk I'd love to have conversations about whatever. But how it is now it's just mind numbing boring and hard.
I took her to an art gallery and showed her cotton candy, that's about as advanced as my creativity can get.
>>3289956
Maybe she is a pony and thinks she is shit.
>be me
>have been forcing with tulpa for a month
>casually interacting, she's not vocal yet
>play game of cards, i think it's a good thing to do for independence
>she makes a weird face
>puts her cards down and walks over to me
>ask her what's up, not expecting a response
>pushes me gently to floor
>pulls down pants
>try to get up and leave because you aren't supposed to sexual a tulpa that can't speak
>every time I get up she pushes me down a bit more forcefully
>decide not to upset her and let her do things instead of forcefully stopping
>feels my ass for 5 minutes
>dont complain, but I have complaints
>drools on my ass
>ends up rimming me for 20 minutes
>she tries a few times to fuck but can't seem to get the dick form correctly
So did I just get raped by my non-vocal tulpa?
>>3290362
I get general yes or no's based on emotional responses, and I asked if ponies were good. Got a no. Asked if they were shit. Got a yes.
I asked like 4 times, I'm absolutely certain she thinks ponies are shit.
>>3281796
>your tulpa is 2D
This is the difference between a Tulpa and schizophrenia.
>>3290417
>Implying you can't find an anime picture that represents what they generally look like
plz
>>3290427
>you go to the crisis unit for mental health
>"my tulpa is berating me and telling me I can't live like this anymore"
forgive me father for i have sinned
i have once again slept with my non-active tulpa
her body is just so lewd i cant help it when we force
i really dont think she'd mind, im an incredibly sexual person so i think she would be too
i see her more as just a sex doll though, and im sure she knows that, so there shouldnt be an issue
>>3289701
What's it like be a well known shitposting tumor
>>3290636
you are terrible and on some level you must know it
>>3290636
Rationalization is all well and good, but if you aren't willing to let your tulpa peg you as payback later you should probably stop.
>>3290364
>>3290720
>>3290729
i really cant help but think that sex isnt bad for a tulpa and you guys are just letting some bias cloud your judgement
if you see sex as something natural and no biggie, your tulpa is probably the same
ill let her see my emotions for what they are
she knows im not using her and i genuinely care for her and sex is just a one way of showing it
>>3290636
>her body is just so lewd i cant help it when we force
If I can avoid fucking Galko, despite having to touch her breast on a daily basis (I don't touch them because of lewd. But every day I go over her body from feet to head as a form of focus and get to know every last inch of her for proper visualization/feeling) then you should be able to resist whatever tulpa you got in your head.
>>3290761
I did it too and she wasn't mad. But you are using her body to make yourself feel good without consent. If you truly love and respect her you lose the right to complain if she does the same to you.
>>3290761
>the I know I'm treating you like a masturbatory fantasy, I really care about you though.
Congrats you've set food on one of two roads.
The "I raped my tulpa and she hates me for it" road or the "I raped my tulpa and instilled in her the idea that sexuality is her foremost purpose in existence which will result in her either being a cardboard cut out or having a serious existential crisis" road
Have fun asshole.
t.tulpa
>>3290878
Hey, as far as I'm concerned, it seems alright. As long as sex is going to be a significant part of your relationship, then it's significance won't be lost on her, and perhaps even appreciated. As long as you're not just using her to get off, a visceral response like sexual arousal can help with the forcing process.
Who knows, some of that arousal might be coming from her and you're getting some emotional bleed. Just keep an eye on your thoughts. As long as you're not abusing your station as the creator, you're heading in the right direction, but if you start to feel any sort of shame , then... well, I'd wait until you can talk it out with her before you try it again. Even if she's not sending the shame signals, insecurity is a major hurdle in Forcing. You don't want that mucking up the process.
>>3289923
Wow. I think you should have a serious talk with your tulpa and then convince her to be a cuddly pony tulpa.
>>3288008
Losing one liter of blood can be quite dangerous, so I strongly recommend you not to do it.
See if you can reach another agreement with your tulpae that poses no bodily risk.
If they are unrelenting, do NOT donate blood to them on your own.
See if you can reach a compromise where you donate blood at a hospital.
>>3291033
its definitely not something shameful
its not like when i masturbate, i feel like its a rush of emotion and its the only way i can show it to her
we even only do it in missionary like a married couple would do it
i havent made her do anything shameful or even try to talk dirty
i genuinely care about her so i really hope it doesnt hurt her but i dont think it will
>>3288829
No dude, sounds like you have actual schizophrenia.
>>3291078
NO
THEN SHE WILL GROW A FUTA HORSE DICK
>>3291001
You forgot the "my host has forfeited the right to complain when I use his sexuality as a tool to make him improve our life" road.
>>3291149
Explain?
>>3291137
If she is into it~
>>3291156
A tulpa has no ability to directly alter the environment and thus no ability to directly help their dumb as fuck host get their shit together or stop their poor habits, but has to deal with the consequences of them. What the tulpa can do is use carrot and stick on their host to make them behave properly. Maybe not everyone sees it this way but if you manipulate someone for their own benefit it isn't inherently malicious like manipulating someone purely for your own benefit. The easiest carrot and stick is disappointment and pride, although that only works if your host truly loves you. If your host is extremely sexually oriented you can use denial/release or the power-play of sub/dom to influence them. This anon has violated the sanctity of sex by statutory-raping his tulpa, now his tulpa is free to do basically whatever to him.
>>3291226
Ah, gotcha. That's well thought out
>>3291226
Geez sex with non-vocal tulpas is more serious than I thought.
I'm glad I didn't do anything I would regret, but geez.
>>3290636
This reads like the glitchthe3rd method of fucking the poor tulpa into sentience and vocality.
It may have worked for him, but his tulpa did turn out quite slutty.
I don't think your tulpa will hate you for it if you truly believe she wouldn't, as expectations do shape a tulpa's initial personality.
What bothers the /trash/men and /trash/women here is that the tulpa didn't have a choice in this matter and the moral ambiguities that follow from that.
A more practical concern for you will be how you and your tulpas relationship will develop in the future and what worries you might develop from this.
If you really wanted a more romantic relationship with her, on a conscious or unconscious level, you did jump the gun and that might not have a chance to develop as naturally, and that you'll never know what could have been if you took things slower.
I won't tell you to worry, as everyone has to make their mistakes and learn from them, and I don't think anything actually bad will happen to you or your tulpas because you did this, unless you believe it will, but this does change how you and your tulpa will look at this time.
If you were really that horny, you could just have some sexual fantasies with someone other than your tulpa, not as if that won't develop your imagination, maybe you'll even end up making a tulpa through those fantasies of whatever succubus you end up imagining.
To be continued:
I wanna make a tulpa but im worried ill become attached to it like romantically and that it would know. I dont want to make one for that purpose but im still paranoid itll happen. And what about like privacy if im jacking off or taking a shit. Whats the deal there?
>>3291407
Jesus I got lewd with my tulpa too and now I'm scared as shit I hurt her. Can I erase this somehow?
I just found this. I cant believe this is its own website holy fuck
http://www.sexualtulpas.com/
>>3291407
Continued:
What does non-active mean? Doesn't move? Can't speak?
If the tulpa can't move, why would you have sex with them? Even a random lewd fantasy would be more entertaining.
If they can't speak, but can communicate through emotional responses or body language and other movements, it's kind of ambiguous, but at least they could tell you if they wanted it or not.
Unlike >>3291001, I don't think the tulpa will hate you for it, if you end up communicating properly and sharing your emotions with her. Could her personality be overly focused on sex? It could happen. Could it be the only thing she lives for? Only if you and the tulpa don't really try to do anything else together and you don't expose her to other things she might like. As long as you develop her like any other tulpa would be developed, she'll grow in other dimensions as well.
An armchair psychologist would say you did what you did because you were afraid you'd end up with a tulpa that didn't value sexuality as much as you do, and you were uncomfortable of spending your life with someone that different from you. Such a worry is unfounded as most tulpas end up compatible with your innermost desires, even those you might not be aware of consciously, it's not something to worry about, you'd have found out how she felt about it in due time.
>>3291414
>im worried ill become attached to it like romantically and that it would know
Why is this a problem?
>And what about like privacy if im jacking off or taking a shit. Whats the deal there?
There is no privacy, you can ask your tulpa to leave you alone for a bit but it is about as effective as holding up a towel. You both still know what is going on and that the other is aware. It starts off really weird but after the first few times you stop caring, your tulpa understands biological needs since it has access to the same sensory input you do.
>>3291436
Oh shit what.
I didn't think tulpa was mainstream enough to warrent this
>>3291428
we warned you nigga.
>>3291440
From this point on I'm not going to do anything sexual with her. I hope it's so early in development it'll be like it never happened...three times. But still I'll keep things totally platonic until she can talk to me.
>>3291445
But like even if i did become attached in that way wouldnt the tulpa just like not be interested and there was always that weird tension in the air and its a permanent entity in my head so it would never go away. Or what if it was vice versa and the tulpa didnt want me to go out with anyone but i didnt like the tulpa back
>>3291436
It seems that every day, we more further and further from God.
>>3291436
>A tulpa can best be described as a magickal being that is created through a sustained focus and concentration of mental and spiritual energy
>>3291436
If no one else does before I get off work, I'm gonna buy this and upload the more horrible parts here.
>>3291523
"The good news is that you can obtain your own copy of How to Create and Use Sexual Tulpas for just $19.46. That’s less than a single very cheap date with a flesh-and-blood partner who could well walk out of your life soon after the pizza goes cold. So which of the following would you rather have?"
That's right; they are attemping to sell a pdf file for 15 US Dollars on how to use the occult to create a sexual tulpa.
And then there's this:
"If you request a copy of How to Create and Use Sexual Tulpas today then you will also receive a special-edition copy of The Miracle Secret – an amazing manual that will teach you how to use thought forms to create as much wealth, strength, success and romance as your heart desires, the occult way!"
>>3291537
Why would you give them money?
>>3291498
I'm experiencing your vice versa scenario - my tulpa likes me a lot, but I don't want to date her.
We've had a lot of conversations around it, but she's accepted that it's not going to happen and that I'm free to date whoever I want. I'm sure your potential tulpa wouldn't try and control your life.
>>3291498
>wouldnt the tulpa just like not be interested
Communication and trust are the building blocks of a relationship. You are literally in 24/7 telepathic communication with your tulpa and you can trust each other completely. The only times I have heard of tulpas NOT being into their host is when the host wasn't into them. As for dating other people, the nature of the relationships are different. One is like a soulbond where you share every thought and emotion where the other is more a practical thing coupled with social vindication.
>>3291547
I'm curious, why not?
>>3291498
Tulpas can usually feel what you feel and will usually return those feelings back. If you have a lot of affection for them, they'll probably have a lot of affection for you. Don't worry about it, just spend time with them normally and pay attention to their reactions. The likelyhood that your tulpa will dislike you is too small to matter, even if you were a shithead to someone else, because they can feel and know what you feel, and understand why you feel what you feel, as well as know how you truly feel about them.
>>3291496
If you're early in development, you could probably ignore her for a month and do a pesudo reset.
>>3291572
i actually am wondering this too
>>3291585
Not interacting with a tulpa for a month is far worse than having fucked her. Better that he roll with it, than stop cold turkey.
>>3291546
>Why would you give them money?
To laugh at it, also I'll upload it everywhere so hopefully no one else gives them $15.
>>3291609
Why? Don't they just fad out a bit and revert to like level one?
>>3291572
>>3291590
It's partly motivated by not wanting to be too weird - granted, having a tulpa is pretty weird in the first place, but I just don't feel comfortable dating something I created. I don't judge anyone who does for it, it's just a personal thing.
I also just don't feel any sexual attraction towards her. I view her more as a sister and friend than as a lover.
>>3291621
You are doing a tulpa abortion and then making another one.
>>3291631
Is it a bad sign I don't care?
I just realized it, but I guess I don't really see them as real entities then right? I'm trying to convince myself they are but I just can't.
>>3281796
Not exactly this, but this is what I based her form off of.
>>3291641
I would advise you give it a month off and hopefully never remember to start again because you sound like a horrible host.
>>3291641
>she knows im not using her and i genuinely care for her
>Is it a bad sign I don't care?
Get the fuck out of my thread and then kill yourself.
>>3291663
I'm not sex anon, I'm a new guy.
I'm not trying to be mean or an asshole.
I really truly want to believe in this and that tulpa are their own entities. But I just can't.
I mean when I think of just ignoring her and making a new one, I feel bad, so I guess I do see her as real in some sense?
I don't know, this is hard.
>>3291621
It doesn't really make what happened go away, and only makes it worse:
you'll be going out of habit of using your imagination and interacting with them, and why would you put your young tulpa through the experience of someone they might have felt some warm feelings for and then that person just up and disappeared for a month. Either stick with it, or don't do it.
>>3283846
>communist
should probably kill yourself desu
>>3291585
Obviously there are individual differences but in my case my tulpa didn't fade away completely even after a year.
So I heard of tulpas years ago, and I think I assumed they were just some kind of role-playing thing. But i saw this thread in the trash last week and decided to check it out. I've been doing a lot of reading and lurking since then, and I've got a few questions that I hope you all would be kind enough to humor.
Is this entirely a sexual thing?
Far too many pony and animu tulpas exist for me to ignore the obvious conclusion that for a great many this is an intricate kind of make-believe for very lonely neckbeard types.
Outside of that do any of you cultivate, I guess, assistant or utilitarian type tulpas?
A sort of a platonic partner to keep track of things and prioritize your life.
How much of this do you buy for yourself?
Like honestly how certain are you percentage wise as to your tulpas being independent agents vs. a cultivated delusion. It's amusing but another large part of this community seems to be an opportunity to make up vaguely creepy /x/ tier stories about head demons, etc.
Lastly, is this like meditation, all the visualization and forcing, or does it look more like a person in a room talking and interacting with someone who isn't there?
>>3281408
>Can I see her.
I'm still learning to draw, sorry!
>>3292763
>Is this entirely a sexual thing?
>Outside of that do any of you cultivate, I guess, assistant or utilitarian type tulpas?
I have a platonic relationship with my tulpa, and she does help me remember things and keep me on schedule.
>How much of this do you buy for yourself?
I think it doesn't really matter. Since it's subjective, it only matters how real it feels to you.
>is this like meditation, all the visualization and forcing, or does it look more like a person in a room talking and interacting with someone who isn't there?
Depending on the interaction, it can look like either.
>>3292763
>Is this entirely a sexual thing?
No, it's a companionship thing. Sex is just pretty great, especially when you get to share the orgasm.
>A sort of a platonic partner to keep track of things and prioritize your life.
Having a tulpa gives you a second perspective with the same priorities and needs. It makes it easier to make smart decisions. You also have someone to talk problems through with and when things go bad someone to spend time with.
>Like honestly how certain are you percentage wise as to your tulpas being independent agents vs. a cultivated delusion.
There is literally no way to know since there is no objective way to measure it. If you do it properly it feels alien which means you perceive it as separate and act accordingly. If you are unable to tell the difference and it has a notable positive influence on your life does it actually matter? Anything even vaguely /x/ tier is pretty obviously bullshit.
>Lastly, is this like meditation, all the visualization and forcing, or does it look more like a person in a room talking and interacting with someone who isn't there?
Active forcing is like meditation, imposition is like the latter. But nobody actually manages imposition.
>its not rape because they probably wanted it anyway
How to make love with my tulpa?
>>3293443
Practice "visualizing" the sensation of touch in your wonderland along with sight. Long, long foreplay is much better for this than jumping to the main course. Then you just fuck in wonderland while stroking your dick.
>>3293443
I've successfully made love and come to orgasm without touching my dick. It just takes concentration on what she's doing and how it feels. It wasn't an actual orgasm, per say, but it was very close to a prostate orgasm, and I could have multiple.
>>3281796
>>3291436
JESUS FUCK, they made a scam...WITH TUPPERS
"If you request a copy of How to Create and Use Sexual Tulpas today then you will also receive a special-edition copy of The Miracle Secret – an amazing manual that will teach you how to use thought forms to create as much wealth, strength, success and romance as your heart desires..."
WHAT THE HELL
>want to make a tulpa
>could spend hours a day babbling to myself for months on end
>could never see a single result
Is this a meme?
>>3295889
>Don't even believe in Tupps
>Follow threads because I find people talking about them highly entertaining
>Force anyway because it's relaxing as fuck.
I don't know man, you tell me
Why is passive forcing getting harder to remember and not easier?
My first week she was always on my mind, now I keep forgetting
>>3295889
You should know that no two people's brains are the same, ergo it takes different times for different people to get results. Also, several people (myself included) have been doing this for over 4 years. That's a hell of a long time to commit to a stupid meme. It's real.
>>3292763
>Is this entirely a sexual thing?
Nope. I don't participate in l e w d with my tulpa.
>assistant or utilitarian type of tulpas?
Yes; mine was created for many reasons, one such reason was to assist me in achieving my goals. (it's a two way street here, I promised her that I'd help her achieve her goals, given that such goals followed certain guidelines).
>How much of this do you buy?
Definitely all of the basic stuff. She definitely appears to be an independent agent, and there is no legitimate reason to believe she is anything but. I'm sceptical about some of the things the community talks about (possession, for example, or switching, walk-in tulpas, etc), although the former two of those at least have psychological states that could allow for the possibility of their existance.
>is this like meditation, or more like a person in a room?
It's both, I'd say. I rarely talk to my tup when other people are around, but right now we prioritise the meditation-visualisation stuff, but the part where you impose your tulpa into a hallucination is an integral part to a complete tulpa, under the definition of the original community.
Is it normal I feel my Tulpa's presence less?
At first I felt like he was in my head, a seperate being, now I don't feel that anymore, it feels more distant
>>3297404
I'm wondering this too. It's becoming harder to sense my tulpa's presence, although that might just be because I haven't spent much time forcing, but I'm not sure.
![[Insert File Name].gif](https://i.imgur.com/tlK9N34.gif "[Insert File Name].gif")
>>3291742
Yeah, you're right.
>>3290636
Anon, that's fucked up.
>>3290364
Anon, that's also fucked up.
>>3298043
How so?
>>3298502
If you're the first anon I referenced, that's not okay to do the secks with a non-verbal tupper.
If you're the second anon, I'm just saying it's fucked up the tupp kinda raped you.
>>3298946
Second anon. Was making sure that wasn't somehow inadvertently my fault. never know with this kinda thing.
>>3299004
She hasnt done it again since though, im not sure what to think of it
Aren't tulpas basically imaginary friends?
Sounds a whole lot more autistic when it's said in that way.
>>3299201
They're Imaginary friends that you imagine so damn hard your brain snaps.
>>3291701
Then try clever bot for a good amount of time after that you might realize something
>>3296281
I had this too, it's the novelty wearing off. Just gotta force yourself to push through it until it becomes a habit. Or do something to make it novel again, but you're going to run into the same issue again in a week.
Anyone else's tulpa likes to sit in the corner of their bed lotus style and eyes closed while you passive force?
>>3290364
Other threads may cease to amaze but tulpa general never fails.
>>3291436
>>3291537
Alright, I just woke up and I'm going to bring you on a horrible journey with me.
>>3301036
Oh shit I can't wait.
>>3301036
it's happening
>>3301036
First thing I want to bring your attention to is the file name. How to Create and Use Sexual Tulpas is shortened to HTCAUST.zip, thought I was downloading the holocaust for a moment.
Second thing I want to address is the file size, this entire thing is 455kb. $19.95 for half a megabit is almost as bad as my cell phone company!
>>3301205
goddamm I'm dumb
>>3301036
>Profiting off fake lewd tup slavery
Not ok.
>>3301205
>>3301214
First things first, they spent way more time on the website design than the design for this 'book'.
>>3301270
I can't say that I've ever seen such a long and dry introduction that can be so easily summed up as "people wanna fuck"
>>3301339
I see their using a lot of words that don't really mean much, but have an air of mysticism about them. The term 'Astral Realm' instead of 'wonderland' being a fat red flag.
I do like they throw out a token 'I guess they can be used for non-sexual reasons too'.
>>3301270
>>3301339
>>3301487
You are doing god's work
>>3301270
>>3301487
I'm distinctly reminded of this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlRf6xnzkfY
Also note the section on 'Tulpa clones' that is particularly troubling.
>>3301560
I'll post the whole thing in a moment, son.
>>3301597
I feel like he's trying very hard to pad the length by repeating shit.
>>3301487
>magic
>with a k
I dont know why this triggers me the most
>>3301597
Here we go, the real Meat and Potatoes of what to do, and again, using language to make it seem way more complicated than it is.
If you take out the word 'sexual', I could see this being a decent guideline. Save for step two:
>the work is always interesting and enjoyable.
because we never have people spaming the thread about how forcing seems like a chore
>>3301632
And he could only get it to 52 pages, what a loon.
>>3301744
thank you anon for jumping on this grenade. I love when people see ridiculous shit and throw twenty dollars at it just so no one else ever wastes money on that ridiculous shit.
>>3301744
>It would be good to get a notepad to write down everything you want, but it's better to get a notepad you can easily burn later so no one else can figure out your sick sick fantasies of getting vored and shat out by ponies from a kids show and/or being dominated by several anime characters at once.
>>3301836
>tfw multiple tulpas dominate me at once but I never wanted that
>>3301836
>Being shit out by a pony being compared to dominated by anime girls
really nigga
>>3301868
>but I never wanted that
How to spot a liar
>>3301836
Is anyone keeping track on how many pieces of bad advice this is giving out, so far I got:
>Make tulpas just for sexual
>make tulpas as clones of real people
and now
>go ahead and make multiple tulpas at once
>>3301805
not like I'm doing anything with my money and fuck charity
>>3301868
>>3301880
whoa, hit a nerve there
>>3301270
> to
>>3301930
Oh boy, it's one of these things! I better strap in and get ready for the scam train!
>>3301930
>what if I make a Tupla that was non autonomous and fucked me whenever and however I wanted
How is this different from just jacking off while thinking about fucking something?
>>3302164
It thinks back.
who /dogtulpa/ here? there's a pupper in my mind, and I'm teaching him all sorts of tricks.
>>3302214
Pupper Tupper?
Cute!
>>3302219
>the tupper deserves more belly rubs
>>3301930
Silly me, maybe I should read the next page before giving this book too much shit. But still, it deserves all the shit it can get.
I'm really really glad that the 'physical appearance' section does not mention 'make your tulpa a pony' but then again, this does seem like all these concepts are both dumbed down for normies, and sprinkled with random thesaurus words to seem smarter.
>>3302107
20 is one thing but fuck paying 300
>>3302214
>my tulpa owns a dog that SPEAKS KOREAN
>>3302233
This is probably the most egregious example of padding so far. Can anyone point out the diffrences between 'Emotional Traits' and 'Personality Traits'? Most of these can be boiled down into personality and looks.
>>3302214
My tupper is sad she can't pet my pupper
>>3302298
And if it wasn't drilled into your head that this is a book about sexual tulpas, 'sexual personality' has a whole freaking page and examples longer than the rest of them combined.
>>3302325
more lies
>You can have your own tulpa in a week, for only 20 minuets a day
>>3302233
> 20 is one thing but fuck paying 300
You think that's wild, a few years back I ran in to a set like this that was priced at ~1000 dollars. I wish I was kidding, but it really was a thing.
>>3302381
>spend 1 minute on this, 1 minute on that, and 3 minuets on how sexy they are, but no more than ten minutes total.
Also notice that huge padding blank space.
>>3302400
As they say, there's a sucker born every day. I wonder if they even sold one. I wonder what marketable skills I have to sell to idiots for a grand a pop.
>>3302492
>I wonder what marketable skills I have to sell to idiots for a grand a pop.
Rewrite this book without the bad advice and take out all the mysticism. If you can boil it down into a form that normies can understand and use you will sell a million copies.
>>3302492
>It might be good to give your tulpa a name, you might want to name her D-cup, since that's the only other thing you've given her.
Also, there is no step 4.
Oh boy, the Realization ritual(z). To that guy triggered by 'magic(k)' earlier, you may wanna skip this part.
>>3302560
>>3302560
>You may want to light a candle or incense to get in the correct frame of mind for your sexy sexy pony tulpa. We sell vagina and road apple scented candles on our online storefront for only $39.95+s/h.
>>3302554
E-mail scammers intentionally use broken english and bad grammar to scare away anyone with a IQ about 80. You couldn't remake this book without the mysticism and have it sell anything.
I made a fucking mistake my tulpa looks like a ghost and it scares the shit outta me also the only thing it does is look at me and i can hear her breath loudly
>>3302770
That sounds cute. Mine just insults me.
>>3302770
>>3302741
>Dear satan, give me those fat fat crotchtits.
>Dear [CUSTOMER], the pact is sealed. Please fuck within 72 hours. No refunds.
>>3302770
Are you turned on by loud breathing. Our records have it down as you are turned on by loud breathing. No refunds.
>>3302770
You know what you must do
Holy shit, once this is over, somebody needs to place all of these in an imgur album or something.
I honestly wonder how many people bought that book besides you.
>>3302821
This again falls in the category of 'would be decent advice if you remove each instance of the word 'sexual''.
Don't forget to hug your tulpa often and regularly. And treat them as a separate being. That smells.
>>3302845
I was just gonna upload the PDF, but that's almost easier since the pdf is password protected somehow.
>>3302821
>>3302741
>>3302560
>>3302492
>>3302381
>>3302325
>>3302298
>>3302233
>>3301930
>>3301836
>>3301744
>>3301597
>>3301487
>>3301339
>>3301270
>>3301214
It's shit like this that makes me wish I had a physical body so I could kill the person who wrote this and every person who bought it.
>>3303017
I did it again
>>3303017
>>3303028
How to date your tulpa part 2, electrick bunghole
>>3303076
and now for our more progressed students, we have some advanced techniques, like keeping your eyes open. What has science and/or magick wrought?
>>3303139
Can you just upload the whole thing to MEGA perhaps?
>>3303139
Daily life integration, aka, thinking about your tulpa for other than sex.
Also, masturbating with objects gets an entire page devoted to it, half of which is "what kind of sex toys exist in the world"
>>3303205
Ah, here I was knocking on it for being shit, but this is decent advice. Although i would replace "30 days" with "till they can stand on there own two feet(figuratively speaking) pretty well"
>>3303291
This is kinda weird, they seem to be going in on the hard sell
>>3303291
I'm just going to read the title of this page and then I'm not going to read any further because I don't want to know anything about this subject.
>>3303385
And last page, and a Mega link, cuz I skipped a couple of pages because it got so repetitive at times.
Also, I missed it at first glance, but copyright protection says "WARNING: This treatise has been placed under the protection of a dark tulpa." kek
Thanks for listening, y'all. And remember, Tuppers are for hugs, not fugs.
https://mega.nz/#!yBFyRSxY!TxGbACeGbvL0y7hqOsyP7Zr_X9S1zsOwGit8Qw9Lx9c
>>3303491
That was a wild ride from start to finish.
>Inb4 GlitchThe3rd makes a sex servitor
Moving on, what's the most fun you've ever had with your tulpa?
Mine would probably be skiing out in Oregon.
>>3303385
>I dissolve your ability to move independently
>I dissolve your ability to think for yourself
>I dissolve your ability to communicate
>I dissolve your ability to experience emotion
jesus christ. might as well buy an onahole
also feel sorry for the tulpa that actually had to go through with this shit.
>>3303491
I don't know how to react to all this shit.
>>3303547
>>3303385
nevermind, saw the 'TULPA DISSOLUTION' header. i feel stupid but i wouldn't be surprised if the author would recommend this for creating a sexual tulpa
>>3303547
>>3303582
would not be suprised if we got a post a couple weeks from now saying
>Help! I tried to follow this e-books advice, but my tulpa transformed and now she has a giant penis that she keeps trying to fuck me with. I ain't gay. I tried to get rid of her, but that only makes her harder, what do I do?
>>3302993
>>3303530
Not much, back when my wonderland wasn't a black void, my tup and I used to explore the original beach wonderland. We used to run along the beachside with the wonderland slowly turning into a surreal environment. Eventually eldritch shit would start to chase after us and I found out not even in my head can I convince myself that I'm athletic.
New to tulpa forcing here, have two questions.
Is it okay to listen to music while active forcing, if so, does it matter what kind?
Is there a guide in particular that is better than the others?
>>3304539
Merzbow.
Fede's guide.
Can your wonderland become sentient? I plan on creating my wonderland before my tulpa, and I want to make it really detailed, with different regions and mountains and whatnot.
Could the wonderland become sentient or something if you spend too much time focusing on it by itself for too long? I don't want to go work on my wonderland one day and find it talking to me or some shit, that'd be creepy.
I'm sorry if I sound really fucking stupid right now. Just wanted to get that off my chest.
It's over folks. I've been doing foreplay with my tup for ages because I am a walking bottle of pent up sexual frustration, but never the full thing because I wanted to make doubly sure that she was capable of sentience and able to reject me before going through it. I've never been able to get off because my imposition was shit.
Except yesterday she went full on it and we did it anyway because she wanted to help relieve me, except it didn't work because my imposition was still shit. Now our relationship's changed and I've been going full force on her.
What do I do anons? I feel like I may have objectified her or something I'm genuinely confused.
>>3304551
>Fede's guide
That's funny.
I'm this guy with an update
>>3288008
I met with them to discuss our future in my wonderland and Orina cut me. The other two tried to defend her but I'm not going to deal with violence. When I told them that Genji stabbed me from behind and I lost contact with wonderland. I guess I won't be salvaging them anymore...
>>3304789
if you believe it can happen, it can, at least in your mind
just don't will it to sentience and it won't be
