Prequel thread
Inflated Katia swallowing Quill-Weave whole while pissing on Sigrid who also has big sweaty balls edition.
No discussion about the comic or updates allowed.
does anyone know where i can find the comic or if it updated recently?
>>3263481
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=prequel
Katia's massive A S S
>>3263711
thanks m8
Katia Dicks required to enter page 5 and above
>>3265416
When will this drought end already
>>3267112
>>3263481
>if it updated recently
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA feel good
>>3266440
>Flicker will update before Prequel
I'm ok with this.
[spoiler]
Honestly, I'm happy Prequel isn't updating because of exams. If he updates in September I will book a flight to America, search for Kasnia in the phonebook and kick him in the nuts.
>>3269404
didn't he still do some stuff on the side?
technically that was pretty recent
>>3269456
Jokes aside, he has been doing stuff and can attempt to justify his delays, but you are delusional if you think last Halloween was 'recent'.
I thought we agreed on no more threads? Whatever, I'll just keep it open.
>>3266440
What's this about?
>>3271357
>>3272220
put it
in
your
mouth
>>3272244
Would you want to put your blood engorged sausage inside of a vampire's mouth?
>>3272346
she's clearly not a vampire anon
she just wants to lick jelly off of things
>>3272376
Grape jelly, ball jelly, it's all the same.
>>3271871
It's from a game Kaz was making but then abandoned. The only thing lewd about it was an implied gay relationship though.
I might draw some semi-lewds of it someday, the characters are fun. This bunny guy later became Katia.
>>3263092
post inflation
>>3275074
>>3276177
Bitch so big she don't even fit in the picture.
>>3277848
AAAAA
>>3281155
It's cool. The fangs didn't penetrate the orbs, just the sac.
>>3282335
Itty bitty kitty weenie
i just want to see katia's tits what's with all the penises jesus christ baka
>>3282626
Anyone have that gif of the unicorn giving a bj whilst getting a hj?
>>3282295
Who's the artist?
>>3277848
>>3282505
this is pretty great.
>>3286222
>>3287784
>>3290514
Come on, you guys, you DO know Kaz is a shrink? Psychiatric research & all that? The reason he seems to have dropped out of sight is that he's busy writing his magnum opus:
CATGIRLS WITH DICKS: THE DARK SIDE OF HUMAN NATURE
Actually that sounds like an interesting read.
>>3291676
Sauce?
Goddammit it I just want a place to discuss prequel. These threads are the closest thing to a discussion board there is about it. It needs to update already so we can have generals on /co/ again.
>>3297999
come on anon, you know that the only generals allowed on /co/ are for steven universe
>>3298157
SU generals are in /trash/ too, anon.
if you want to be cancer, you belong here with other cancer. It's only fair.
>>3299748
I'm more passive aggressively complaining that the 'no generals' rule doesn't apply to some generals for no real reason. And on top of that, having no generals promotes creating multiple threads about the same topic daily. /co/ is flooded with so many more generals now than before, all under the guise of some vaguely structured 'what if x' OP post
>>3299927
It's a shift in /co/ culture I think. Naming your thread a general has become taboo and accusing a thread to be a general can incite witchhunts. As you said though, the generals remain but they have to be covert about it.
I think this is stupid because people will want talk about their interests anyway; they will either join hands and do the totally-not-a-general dance or they'll migrate elsewhere.
Now that I think about it, taboos are basically memes.
>>3299748
There's literally an SU and a Homestuck general up on /co/ right now. I guess they both have in common that they updated within this year though
This thread is garbage. Can we have somebody that knows what they're doing contribute something?
Where is Edit-Bro?
>>3303294
No. This is what you get.
>>3303294
Sure, I'll drawfag something. Give me an outfit to put Nah in.
>>3304544
This one. It might be a bit too conservative though.
>No more inflation art from lk
Feels bad man
>>3306163
Requesting Katia using her cock to inflate Nah or Sigrid.
>>3268646
Hey anon that did this one. If you read this, how about editing this .gif to Katia?
>>3314961
How does this even happen?
>Katia comes to her senses and suddenly she has eaten Quill
>>3315029
Crazy bitch ate her in her sleep. Woke up to find herself a murderer.
>>3314961
>eating anything from black marsh
>eating filthy argonians
disregard the catastrophic damage at her internal organs, how is she not dead yet? have you
>>3316520
Obviously Quill-Weave would be the one eating Katia.
>>3316631
i see we worship the right Daedra in this place
>>3316631
>>3316631
Some times when you're starving the only answer is to remove non-vital body parts to eat. A Khajiit can survive with testicles, after all.
>>3320757
Damn. That's some shit, man.
>>3324013
I'll ask again:
Source, please?
>>3324410
It isn't Katia. The color is close, but it's just some random furry's murrsona.
>>3318825
That's pretty nice so far.
kat fury
>>3327304
Needs less diaper so we can see her itty bitty kitty dick pissing.
>>3327304
Good lord is she sweating it or something?
Is Kazerad actually really smart, or do I just think he is because his thoughts are external to my own and from someone with a fanbase so I arbitrarily assign them higher value?
I've been reading his stuff on Tumblr about anonymity and it leaves me wondering whether I could pull off similarly articulated thoughts. [I don't want to, but it leaves me with the question regardless.]
>>3327640
I think he just thinks a lot about shit. That by itself doesn't mean he's smarter or dumber, it just means he spends a lot of time going over his thoughts about things.
Some people might think he's smarter, and some people might think it's just pointless navel gazing. But anyone can do it if they try. And, in fact, if you do it a lot, it becomes easier, just like with anything. If you start trying to be nicer to people throughout the day, over time it becomes easier. If you push aside distractions, it becomes easier. The same thing applies to just thinking about things in general, extensively or at multiple angles. He's probably done it all his life and so for him it's just normal.
Kaz does stupid shit all the time. Cooking, updates, sending packages. He's not even very good at learning from his stupid shit compared to other people. He just catalogues it in his head and tries to look at it analytically. But he still fucks up.
I look at Kaz that way, as a guy who does a lot of thinking, and it's interesting to read his shit because he'll go on about whatever for pages and pages. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't come up with your own conclusions just because you think Kaz is smart. Think for yourself, and just use Kaz's views as a springboard to articulate your own thoughts.
>>3327640
He's good at communicating his thoughts, mainly
Which is more important, if anything
>>3327640
Those essays you're reading are the product of writing skill famalam. Yes Kaz might be what some would call 'smart' but the reason he can write like that is that he's written a ton of other shit. The guy has been writing essays for competitions and scholarships for a long time.
The answer to your question, Anon, is - Yes, you can write like that. Smarts are like talent, you see someone excelling at his work and people are like 'wow that guy is smart/talented'. Both are a myth really, there's only practice.
>>3328360
Best post in the thread.
(not that "best post in the thread" is worth much in this thread)
Also, it seems I didn't save "pump-it-up.gif", anyone got a copy?
>>3329375
sorry, also meant to link >>3327974
>>3329375
>digitigrade Katia
if only
>>3329375
I don't know if there's a more uncensored version than this, but I also have the brown paint one
>>3329396
>>3329396
>>3329401
Thanks anon. I only ever saw the painted one, so double thanks.
>>3327640
>Is Kazerad actually really smart
He's just good at telling nerds what they want to hear. If he were espousing the gospel to according Anita, you'd have no trouble seeing his rambling for what it truly is.
>>3327640
>Is Kazerad actually really smart
He's just really good at telling nerds what they want to hear. If he were espousing SJW ideals, you'd have no trouble seeing his rambling for what it truly is.
>>3331137
Eh, from what I've seen on the issue that utilizes the acronym which duplicates the 7th letter in the ISO basic Latin alphabet he's one of the most balanced people. Perhaps entering with a default imageboard mindset. [i.e. "I don't know much but they're fighting the acronym that utilizes the 19th letter in the modern English alphabet and the ISO basic Latin alphabet, as well as the 10th and 23rd in the aforementioned so they're probably closer to right than not."
Nonetheless, it's a far cry from "If you're disagreeing with me your a cuckold faggot anti-campaign issue that utilizes the acronym which duplicates the 7th letter in the ISO basic Latin alphabet Tumblr shill."
>>3331186
Are you having a stroke or is there some automatic substitution I don't know about? SJW
>>3331186
> it's a far cry from
Not that far, I'd argue- remember his attempt at defending a certain someone's ex? Or when he tried to declare himself neutral on a certain issue after spending months openly cheerleading for one side of it?
>>3263771
>>3332154
>his attempt at defending a certain someone's ex
Kaz here. I still don't get why people call that "attempt at defending".
Like, I was responding to a post tearing him apart, and I tried to make it pretty clear that I was aiming to give an alternate analysis that /didn't/ automatically everything he said was a lie. I meant for it to be a counterpoint, but halfway through I basically realized none of the author's arguments even made sense. Like, she literally linked an article of him saying his critics made him lose his job designing surgical equipment, and she captioned it "here you see him wishing death on social justice warriors via surgical accidents". The whole post was like a test on whether people can click links.
I don't know, I really hate taking sides on things and try to be neutral as much as I can. This is why Double-Latin-7th bothered me so much: no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't figure out where its other side was coming from, and never really got a response deeper than "you should know better than to associate with groups that carry such a stigma".
I mean, christ, I'm posting in a furry porn thread on 4chan. Why do people even think I can feel stigmas anymore?
>>3333440
>I still don't get why people call that "attempt at defending".
Okay, do you legitimately not get it, or are you just doing that thing where you feign ignorance until the party calling you on your shit gives up in frustration?
All due apologies for the rudeness, but I'm in no mood to play "poor, oppressed webcomic-dude and mean ol' critic-guy" at the moment.
>>3333440
I figured you'd be more acclimated to certain poster types.
>>3333669
>All due apologies for the rudeness, but I'm in no mood to play "poor, oppressed webcomic-dude and mean ol' critic-guy" at the moment.
No it's cool, I understand.
And I mean, I guess you could call it a "defense" in the sense that it has the effect of making someone look less bad. But it wasn't an ATTEMPT at defending. I genuinely went into it expecting the author to have some good points buried in those links, leaving me with a nice, neutral position I could be satisfied with. Halfway through it I just started to realize that her argument solely pivoted on the foregone assumption of guilt.
And like, the response I got to my post... shortly after I posted it, this person replies with a link to the ONE screencap in it I did not respond to, because I thought it was such tame shit that I didn't even warrant acknowledgment. And he's like "funny that Kazerad left THIS ONE out" and played it up as though it invalidated everything else I said, including the parts where the author outright lied.
I don't know. You have to really understand, I WANT to believe these people have some solid evidence that justifies their animosity. But every engagement with them feels like pic related.
>>3334201
>>3333669
>>3333440
>>3332154
>>3331186
I'm reading Kaz's tumblr in chrono. order and I can't wait till I get to the part where all this drama comes in. So far (pg 18) there has only been a glimpse of drama, lone stragglers trying to make Kaz conform but they don't know about his powerlevel so they all get BTFO. Plus Kaz levels up with every essay he writes so there's even more suspense on how he will deal with this targeted attack.
The whole thing is a great read, hauntingly beautiful, a real mouse clicker.
Post Katia eating her own testicles on 4chan and real conversation develops. Post Katia eating her own testicles on lulz and the thread dies.
>>3335899
>>3335940
>>3277009
if it's too big it's for plebs
>>3328219
Joke's on her- Katia's delightfully fuzzy balls, in addition to being first-rate stress-relievers and bottomless wells of Khajiit spunk, are also the source of all her luck.
>>3338706
It's cool, Sigrid's magical tits give her tons of luck. With Katia's unlucky sac around her neck they just cancel each other out.
Nah was a little late rescuing Katia. At least nothing important got bitten off.
After stopping the bleeding and finding some clothes, Katia confronts the mudcrab that had stolen her jewels. Her hope is that Quill-Weave can sew them back on... But after a firm discussion with the crab, he just wants them more, and Katia leaves them with it. She will probably never skinny dip again.
>>3341293
I'm sorry, but this has looped back around from terrible to kind of great.
Also, I officially dub you KGB Anon. For Katia's Gross Balls, of course.
>>3341334
If it's not terrible, I'm doing it wrong.
>>3263711
HOLY SHIT THE COMIC IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST RESULT...
I thought you were trolling with this
>>3341649
Oh no, I mean it's just reached a point where it's actually great in a terrible way instead of just regular terrible.
Katia stares in shock at the argonian that sliced her testicles off. She had insisted that they were not eggs, and were in fact attached to her, but the lizard woman did not believe her.
Katia strongly considers the offer of two Septims for the organs, at least she'll get something for them, and at least two young argonian hatchlings will eat tonight.
>>3344960
>You briefly consider asking Quill Weave how long she'd been hiding there, but eventually decide you don't want to know.
>>3341697
Personally, I don't feel that way. I am too fond of my jewels to enjoy seeing them get cut off and shit.
>>3345301
Don't take them seriously. They're probably meant to be funny.
>>3343371
Think of the children, Katia. You know you would do it if they were two starving khajiit kittens.
You made a mistake and mentioned that you were hungry.
You watch with morbid curiosity as the khajiit pulls a knife and slices her own testicles off before handing them to you. She insists that it's okay and that she's not using them... And you might be hungry, but not that hungry.
You'll slip them to a stray dog or orphan later, or just throw them in the trash.
>>3335899
>Post Katia eating her own testicles on 4chan and real conversation develops
People asking you to leave isn't conversation.
>>3334201
>>3333440
How'd you get so used to dealing with hostility while having a consistent username and media [Prequel] linked to it?
On imageboards it's trivial to deal with it. With a username, the prospect of anything you do coming back at you later exists, and you have to temper your reply so that when someone makes it clear they're a fucking idiot you don't say it in such blunt terms. [Or alternately, you have to be careful with getting exponentially more demeaning as your evidence piles up against them, because at a certain point they can imply you're just bullying them with those nasty facts.]
And then there's always the chance you make a factual error, get BTFO, and have people bring it up again and again. Sometimes you can play it off, other times not.
[spoiler]I haven't actually used a named medium in forever. Now that i reconsider it, I overthink what kind of identity I want to give the account and end up not using it at all. The risk of failure is higher because people may be able to link accounts too.[/spoiler]
I mean here, you've a little plausible deniability - "That post on 4chan claiming to be me wasn't me." - but elsewhere? "My little brother did it. Typed perfectly. With reference to my previous posts."
>>3348333
>spoilers on /trash/
Hi, welcome. This isn't /co/, but I understand your confusion; we almost have as many furries as they do.
Seriously, though, Kaz seems to put a lot of thought into what he says all the time. Reading his posts is sort of like talking or corresponding with a Philosophy major friend I have, in that there's always a solid foundation to every argument they make, and they come out looking reasonable, even if you don't agree with them; you get the feeling that they arrived at their conclusions by reasoning rather than being swayed by whatever memes are being spouted loudest at them.
Nice trips BTW
Where's a good place for people who like Katia and maybe lewdness but not testicles everywhere?
>>3351458
Shut the fuck up and wait for an update then go to /co/. Everyone should do that. This is what you get for constantly making threads.
>>3351474
I haven't made threads for this but okay.
>>3348333
I don't know, it's not something I ever thought of as that unusual.
As you've probably seen me write before, I try to approach things like a scientist. My mindset isn't "I hope this makes my e-peen look bigger" or "I hope this makes the mean people go away" so much as "I wonder if THIS will work". I'm not playing for a high score, I'm just trying a bunch of stuff I haven't done before. I'm hoping I can discern enough about what does/doesn't work to help people who actually are playing for a high score.
By and large, the only people this pisses off - or who try to "make stuff come back to get you" - are the manipulative ones who try to control others via distributing/denying popularity points. Like, seriously, ask yourself what motives a person like that would have. They're just trying to punish people who didn't suck their dick, and the fact they even still remember you after all this time is like a 40-year-old man trying to punish his high school girlfriend for not staying with him.
>>3343371
Balls are as big as her brain.
>>3351543
I've found my ability to do stuff like that waxes and wanes over time, and it affects what sites I use; 4chan's a pretty good constant, since there's always good discussion in certain threads and always shitposting in certain boards, but it's really hard to stand reddit if I don't or can't go in with the mindset of "time to try to manipulate people," although sorting everything by "random" and hiding karma numbers works pretty well.
Out of curiosity, have you ever started observing something and found that it didn't match or even opposed your original preconceptions?
>>3353181
>Out of curiosity, have you ever started observing something and found that it didn't match or even opposed your original preconceptions?
Very often. I mean, heck, for me the best example is fanfiction communities. Years ago, I made fun of them like everyone else, thinking I was a Real Writer who was gonna get his words inked onto tree carcasses discussed by people who drank tea. Nowdays I guess I'm a professional fanfiction author, mostly because after I started investigating it I fell for that shit hard. Not even TES stuff, I mean fanfiction in general. I've made a throwaway Fimfiction account more than once to secretly enter contests.
I think it's important to keep an open mind and realize that, when you hold a preconception about something, it's often objectively measurable whether or not it holds predictive power. Like, if there are counterexamples to what you believe, then what you believe is /wrong/. Hanging onto that belief is only going to hinder you, and before you know it you'll end up making $1,200/year writing paper novels.
>>3351543
>By and large, the only people this pisses off - or who try to "make stuff come back to get you" - are the manipulative ones who try to control others via distributing/denying popularity points. Like, seriously, ask yourself what motives a person like that would have. They're just trying to punish people who didn't suck their dick, and the fact they even still remember you after all this time is like a 40-year-old man trying to punish his high school girlfriend for not staying with him.
So you've never had to counter really autistic ones seeking out your every online action? (Nor have I, personally, save one person overstepping forum-social norms by Googling my name and posting the results, but I spend a lot of time reading/watching it happen to others.)
It's all well and good their motivations being terrible, but if they can send you Pizzas or facebook your mother a link to your FA they still pose a risk, and people would do that in the pursuit of laughs alone, let alone those who believe M O R A L I T Y is on their side.
Furthermore, once old mistakes are dredged up it's possible people will make snap judgements which are harder to overturn than they are to make in the first place. [Again, common amongst people who believe morality is on their side.], which I know because I do it myself very often. [And while the viewpoints are overturned, it's consciously more difficult than the initial judgement. It seems a fair estimation that a large number of people never progress beyond the initial snap judgement.]
This thread is weird as fuck.
>>3354748
I don't mind the Katiastration pics, but I could definitely do without the Kazerad worship.
>>3354697
>So you've never had to counter really autistic ones seeking out your every online action?
I don't really mind them that much! I mean, strictly speaking, I prefer those people to the "snap judgment" crowd you describe further on. I'm not that terrible of a person when you get to know me - I just look terrible when someone quotes me as saying, like, "[Hitler] was [...] right.". Personally, I've found the people who ARE put off by info-diggers are usually the ones who look worse the deeper you dig.
People making judgments about others based on partial information is a problem in general, but it's mostly a problem with own personal tendencies to believe things. Like, if a person makes some sweeping statement like "this guy/lady is a racist bigot who eats babies", you can safely assume they are lying. If they name something more specific, like "She ate a baby once", then you just ask for some evidence what they are saying is true. People with a decent point will provide evidence, and people without one will usually just go tell others that you eat babies as well.
>>3354820
>I don't mind the Katiastration pics, but I could definitely do without the Kazerad worship.
Don't kinkshame.
>>3355151
>I'm not that terrible of a person when you get to know me
Um, I don't think anyone's implied that you are? Well, except for the SJWs during the GG fiasco, and- let's face it- you were pretty much asking for it.
>>3353999
>I've made a throwaway Fimfiction account more than once to secretly enter contests
I'd read kazerad brand magic horse stories. Any chance you're willing to link them?
>>3355617
Not a chance. I used throwaway accounts for a reason. It shouldn't be that hard to find them, however, since I doubt there are too many fanfictions of my preferred pairing.
>>3355078
>>3355452
>Um, I don't think anyone's implied that you are?
I didn't mean here, but I have gotten such accusations for all sorts of things. Like, long ago there were people triggered about me doing fanfiction instead of /proper/ writing, then there were people triggered by me talking about doing art for profit rather than passion, then there were people triggered by me saying you shouldn't pay artists more than they ask. It's obviously not the same people each time, but there's always SOMEONE out there thinking "I disagree with this man. How can I make other people hate him?", and there's always a small group who run with what they say (some of you guys have to remember "Kazerad pays artists with Chili's gift cards").
I don't think there's any issue with the people who make this stuff up, but I think there's an issue with other people who too readily believe outlandish things without evidence.
>>3355737
This guy isn't me but I stand by his statement 100%. I'm gonna go get a burger or something.
>>3355830
But what if someone found evidence that you couldn't plausibly deny that linked your MLP fanfiction to you?
That wouldn't discredit you in serious logical debate, but it could be used to attack your social standing and to a limited degree pre-prime people to discredit you [or personally agree with you, but shitpost publicly.]
Not much more than the mere admission that you write it, which has already been made, unless there's some hilariously cringeworthy writing in there - but still.
It doesn't even necessarily need to win arguments to have an effect: merely providing an effective tool for de-railing threads into shitposting is enough. While to some degree this is inevitable as any statement can be twisted, some things are pretty obvious. It even provides a semi-effective clause for escaping an argument when you're being BTFO.
In your case, with inbuilt imageboard popularity, pushing that kind of thing is a little more difficult. Not impossible, mind you, but difficult. How someone starting out climbs the ladder to that status without slipping and breaking every bone in their body is more difficult
>>3356186
But why would that affect anything? I find it difficult to imagine someone saying to themselves, "golly, I sure was all set to read this webcomic about a sad cat, but what's this I hear about the author writing something I don't like? Well that's heresy; I won't tolerate someone who likes something I don't, especially if it's popular."
I mean, aside from /v/, but I assume nobody's actually serious on /v/ unless they're talking about monstergirls and waifus.
>>3355830
AIRC, no one ever called you a terrible person just for preferring fanfiction to legit writing or having a profit-oriented approach to creative work- it's always been the way you respond to them that cements their impression of you as a sort of autistic android from Marketing.
Well, except for the thread that lead to the aforementioned gift card rumor- you really were acting like a terrible person there.
>>3356279
writing about* something I don't like
It also helps to pick your battles; /trash/ and /co/ are slowish boards with a generally more reasonable audience, so derailing a thread into pure shitposting is harder, especially when there's actually stuff to talk about.
>>3356186
>But what if someone found evidence that you couldn't plausibly deny that linked your MLP fanfiction to you?
There actually is readily available irrefutable evidence if you find it. Like, you'd know.
But in response to what you're saying, I've found that like 99% of people in the world are not the type to discredit you on writing fanfiction or hanging out with furries or not condemning internet movements or whatever. The people who do condemn for these things are very loud, but that's because their power essentially comes from ransoming popularity to people. They want you to feel like you HAVE to do things in a way that appeases them, and part of that is hiding the fact that what they're actually ransoming to you is the favor of, like, 1% of your potential audience.
If you're just starting to climb the ladder, I honestly think it's better to just immediately give up on that 1%. If you want to pander to someone's preferences, do furries, they're a larger audience.
>>3356311
I'm talking further back, like when the MSPAForums were my main audience and some people actually used IRC and stuff. You probably started seeing stuff around the time I started posting on Something Awful, which was when I was sort of level in popularity with a lot of the comic artists there.
I don't think I was a horrible person in those the threads? I don't know. It was a long time ago so I might be forgetting the details.
I do talk about marketing and stuff very mechanically, but like... there shouldn't be a taboo about being cold and mechanical about stuff like that. That taboo is the whole reason artists are poor 99% of the time.
>>3356606
Hey Kaz, unfortunately a non-topical question, but how many packs do you have left? Surely your living room is slowly coming back.
>>3356719
Not sure the exact number, I'll check later. I do know the Shirt Towers have begun rapidly shrinking once I got into the regular Tee Packs.
You wouldn't think size plays that much of a role, but the Treasure Chests actually ended up being very time-consuming compared to the smaller things. I still have a few chests left, but I need to clear the tees off my cutting machine so I can cut more posters. So, for now, tee packs.
>>3356606
>If you're just starting to climb the ladder, I honestly think it's better to just immediately give up on that 1%. If you want to pander to someone's preferences, do furries, they're a larger audience.
but what if that 1% is the audience i'm actually trying to pander to? like say, i'm writing a piece that contains both anthros and painstakingly detailed, accurate depictions of construction machines or something, and i want to write this precisely because i think people who love construction machines are an untapped market and it's personally important to pursue that to me, but i also want to use anthros for -reasons-, would i just have to count on most civil engineers not being in the scene to have preconceived notions about furries from either side?
>>3357403
If you're using anthros, people who have a raging hateboner for furries will revile you no matter how well you write.
>>3357530
well anthros would be a stand-in for anything unpopular, really.
releasing things on the internet means it's far more exposed to being slammed first, appreciated second than on the more unsuspecting, jovially ignorant population.
>>3357403
Civil engineers aren't going to be the ones trying to stigmatize you for drawing foxes with tits or whatever. It's going to be, like, self-declared critics and excessively uncreative artists with a rigid concept of proper character design. Their preferences align with basically no audience outside of themselves.
Which doesn't mean it's wrong to pander to them! It's just... not exactly lucrative compared to absolutely every other alternative.
>>3357530
Well, yeah. That goes without saying.
The point of the question should be how negligible is the overlap between irrational furry haters and civil engineers. Which I would assume is pretty negligible.
>>3357161
Alright, thanks for the update!
Sounds funny to say that for some reason.
>>3357611
>not exactly lucrative compared to absolutely every other alternative.
Oh whoops! I just realized I'm doing that thing where I talk like a marketing robot. Let me try again:
You should be a good human being and not question it when loud people tell you it's a good idea to cater to them! That is the good, non-robot thing to do. You will make all the money, just like every other artist who does that.
>>3357611
civil engineer and self declared critic are not mutually exclusive. Hell, my personal experience says anyone in a field that isn't art deems themselves too above thinking too long and hard about entertainment and relies on public opinions they can get from the loud people. Like, all furries are autistic weirdos or all gamers are sexist or whatever other comparison you see fit.
this is what sits wrong with me kaz, you expect most people not to have opinions on the things you're selling to them, but not having an opinion on something usually entails not giving a shit about it, your product(let's keep the terminology, we're too deep at this point) is not going to get their attention compared to the actual outrageous stuff, good or bad.
Prequel is a very very special thing that you don't recognize enough, it's adult but it's cute and friendly to the reader, it's open and didactic but has the backing of endless TES lore to draw from, these merits are not commonly seen together and they are a bigger reason for it's success than "i simply tried to make as many people like it as possible" which vaguely translates to you tried to make something good for a change.
>>3356606
>>But what if someone found evidence that you couldn't plausibly deny that linked your MLP fanfiction to you?
>There actually is readily available irrefutable evidence if you find it. Like, you'd know.
omg lol. i haven't read ANYTHING else in this convo and was just scrolling up for the balls and tiddies but this out of context ezchange here is quite grand
top notch banter all-around, guys.
>>3358617
>Hell, my personal experience says anyone in a field that isn't art deems themselves too above thinking too long and hard about entertainment and relies on public opinions they can get from the loud people. Like, all furries are autistic weirdos or all gamers are sexist or whatever other comparison you see fit.
I don't know, I think those people definitely SHOW, but I'm not sure they're any kind of significant majority. I could be wrong, and it's worth noting that it could just be a coincidence from what I do, but the general observation I've had is that people aren't nearly as judgmental as we assume. It's not that they are immune to the cries of Loud People, but they don't incorporate them too deeply into their beliefs, and hearing about those Gross Furry People or whatever isn't really gonna stop them from reading Twokinds.
For people with social power, there is a definite incentive to making it look like they control a majority. I don't see much evidence that this is actually TRUE, though. At best, I think they sway the opinions of other Loud People, which still often fail to reflect the general pop.
>>3358617
Far as I can tell your view that "casuals just listen to the loud opinions of critics" doesn't necessarily match up with actual numbers. People will SAY they have some refined taste and parrot a cool-sounding critic, but then go and consume something completely different that they actually enjoy. It's always important to look at actual sale/visit numbers rather than what seems like a general consensus based on comments because those two are often very different.
>>3357899
>Kaz being sarcastic
1/10 you uploaded with 'image.jpg'
>>3358617
I think I lost you. If I've got this correct, you wanted to make something targeted to a specific audience and you're concerned about how anthros might dissuade said audience, possibly fake Kaz told you that that the people who might trying to bring down for drawing furriers are so few and un-influential that making something with them in mind is not worth your time, and what you got out of that is that Kaz panders to neutrals and he got lucky by falling in the rare popularity grey zone between the critic's sphere of influence.
Like >>3359006 and >>3358984 , I think you're overestimating those critic's influence and that belief can be disproved by looking up the numbers (fuck if I know about viewership statistics though). People rarely inherit opinions without questioning them so a critic might have a big following but that doesn't mean they have as big an influence. Look up lightcoffeephobia on Kaz's tumblr in you want more on this
>>3355078
Doing Talos' work
I wanna cum on Katia's pawpads
>>3359739
>not her big ol' eyes
>>3357530
Not the same guy, but what if I'm writing a story about how much I hate the fact that I'm a furry? The basic idea is that a number of furries are turned into their fursona and dumped into a setting which already contains more "normal" (standard color, not overly endowed, overall average) anthropomorphic characters. One of the new arrivals is especially weird because he's new enough to have never made a fursona. Things happen, and in the end I'm just writing a hatefic.
>>3359621
>>3359006
>>3358984
i don't like to draw this card but it's something that's happened in my experience, personally. However i note that it's mostly a factor on things that aren't entertainment, like social issues i shall avoid specifying, that people can be actively discouraged from learning more about on their own.
with media it's relative, we all know the common slogans "the people complaining aren't buying the X" and that all publicity is good publicity, but when we refer to both niche material and niche audiences the biggest risk isn't being seen negatively, it's being ignored completely.
unless you have god tier marketing abilities or a budget to draw from, the default way to spread around your creation is word of mouth, but word of mouth only goes as far as the people who want to share it decide it should, your friend isn't going to recommend your high impact furry fetish comic at the dinner table with his family, for example. Your comic is not going to exit the furry circles, your furry friend will either be too weird to have a "normal" group of people to talk about it with(or just turn them off by virtue of being that fucking guy), or not want to deal with revealing his power level.
you need these loud people to spread shit around because even if they aren't to be taken seriously, they're good at making people aware things exist, too.
Post more art jerkwads
fuck you nigga
>>3361123
>i don't like to draw this card but it's something that's happened in my experience, personally
It's nothing to be ashamed of. Your experiences are as relevant as my own, and both are superior to armchair analysis and theory.
People being socially discouraged from learning more about something is a problem, especially with regard to social issues and the like. However, I think this is where just committing to disregard the "loud people" comes in most handy. You can easily find some other audience to peddle your wares/ideas to, one that will be more receptive to them, and their combined word-of-mouth will often be stronger than what the Loud People are capable of.
To use an example from my Tumblr: my comic has been pimped on RockPaperShotgun, but mathematically speaking that was still less valuable than the combined strength of relative nobodies on 4chan, Reddit, Facebook, Deviantart, and Furaffinity - and I mean each of those /individually/. In other words, a strong appeal to Furaffinity is actually more valuable than a major journalism outlet. As is an appeal to 4chan, Deviantart, or like... one mention in a porn thread on Reddit, apparently.
A major outlet might be "mainstream", but I don't think the mainstream is as big or influential as people believe. A lot of people listen to the mainstream, but they listen to it in about the same way we listen to, like, the front page of Reddit. They'll put greater heed in what they hear from the niche communities they belong to - whether it's a special interest group, political faction, or whatever. The mainsteam obviously has a vested interest in denying this, and giving off an impression that their word can make or break you, but I don't know how accurate that is. At the very least, I know people overestimate the mainstream's ability to "make".
uh
>>3365621
yeah? what is it?
>>3355830
>Like, long ago there were people triggered about me doing fanfiction instead of /proper/ writing
I thought that was you.
>Kazerad pays artists with Chili's gift cards
Haha I remember hearing that.
>>3361123
Sounds like something you could conclusively confirm by some research. Whatever the numbers tell you is what's right so go out there and research your market. Any of us here could be wrong.
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>>3359739
>Not her big fat balls
>>3369208
That would be kind of weird, even for a fetish, anon.
I guess we could try frotting, but I'm not going to aim for the balls specifically.
Unless you're saying I should be humping her balls directly, but that sounds like it would be painful for her and not entirely satisfying for me.
She'd have to have much larger balls for that to work.
Like this.
>>3369253
I just kind of meant aim for them. She'd probably work it into her fuzzy scrotum to make it all soft once it dried.
I bet Katia's scrotum smells awful.
>>3369878
Like alcohol, piss, and jizz.
>>3370001
>piss
>>3372329
no hers.
>>3356606
say, i'm curious.
how'd you cultivate imageboard popularity in the first place?
[or, if it came organically, how did you expand it effectively.]
coming to an imageboard with a permanent identity [i'm x, i made y!] would hit me as the worst of all social situations, at least initially before a reputation built up. 90% of what you stay potentially sticks with you while everyone else gets an ephemeral identity.
>>3373358
Kaz is sort of like the Beetlejuice or more like the Bloody Mary. He is never here unless he is called upon to give answers. Plus he never got a tripcode so even if he said something dumb it would be almost impossible to prove it was him.
>>3372335
It's not Katia's fault she can't control her bladder and just ends up pissing on herself all day.
>>3375209
>>3373358
I pretty much did the thing I usually do where, if people on a forum start talking about my stuff, I show up and answer questions or interact with them.
Some communities like that more than others, and anonymous imageboards in general are one of the ones that it meshes pretty well with.
I just want to comfort a crying Katia with a hug before shoving her fat, filthy balls into my mouth.
Let's be honest, if Prequel wasn't set in the TES universe would it be 10% as popular as it is today?
>>3374027
>Plus he never got a tripcode
no names on /trash/. I think he said on his tumblr somewhere why he doesn't do it (it meshes better with 4chan culture and he just doesn't see the need for it).
For the most part, people can either tell it's not him or it doesn't really matter; see >>3355737 and Kaz's response >>3355830.
Actually, refusing to do anything but put "Kazerad" in the namefield probably ingratiated him to a bunch of users.
>>3380852
40%, maybe. It's well-written and has furries, so that's some near-guaranteed popularity. Sort of like how /co/ and /tg/ have been enjoying Valsalia or whatever it's called.
Hmm, let's check my tracking for my package!
>Attempted delivery three times
>Within the space of half an hour
>During the middle of the day
>ON A FUCKING WORK DAY.
>WHAT
>>3386435
Good ol' UPS if I'm guessing right.
>>3386480
Considering I got an Australia Post delivery card, I'm somewhat doubtful. Although they might just be using their delivery cards, I don't fucking know how it works.
Fact remains though, delivery card is gotten! So on monday, I'll have my Treasure pack.
>>3386905
Haha wow I was pretty far off with my guess. Good to hear though anon!
