RWBY/RT Trash General #98: Do you have shame?
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JUST
I want team RWBY to take turns riding my cock and sitting on my face.
>>3111988
Considering your small cock and ugly face you should dream of lesser things.
>>3112017
>Projecting
>>3112017
hey please don't be mean
Arkos is best and cutest ship!
>>3112045
>>3112017
I want someone to consider being friends with me.
>>3112045
Alright, I'll admit, that Nora got me.
>>3112028
I've noticed this being the response to a lot of insults in /rwbyg/.
Do people not know what projection is or is that simply the traditional response to stuff now?
>>3112045
>cutest ship!
Pyrrha made Jaune emo.
>>3112082
But we're your friends
right?
>>3112045
>Bumbleby is best and cutest ship!
Fixed
>>3112125
All part of the plan. When Pyrrha comes back from the dead to a broken Jaune, he will be hers for the taking.
>>3112154
>>3110301
>>3110419
>>3112154
That's really weird way of spelling Disabler.
Who would you main?
Who /Arkos/ here?
>>3112318
Arkos main here
>>3112318
Main Banesaw, secondary Merc, tertiary Yang.
>>3112318
Junior Main coming through
>>3112355
>>3112318
Arkos repertin for duty.
reese is an inconsiderate friend
Any love for Electromagnet?
Guys?
>>3112318
Main Cardin, sub the Altas Soldier
Would you watch anime with your favorite male character?
>>3112453
Yes.
reese is a selfish lover
>>3112419
Fuck off back to /u/. We don't wear glasses here.
>>3112453
>Jaune
I bet he would love DBZ
>>3112318
White Knight main here.
>>3112419
That's not Arkos
>>3112419
>Shipping Nora with anyone but Ren
>>3112419
It's cute but I'm more interested in that ass on Nora.
Lord have mercy.
>>3112769
>69
oh my
>>3112541
I wonder how many times Jaune made Pyrrha orgasm just by licking her heels.
I'm going to burn Ruby with a lighter every time she falls asleep!
>>3112925
their current record is 6.
>>3112925
Zero.
Weiss on the other hand.
>>3113022
I want Weiss to lick my feet
I WANT TO MARRY A wAIFU
>>3113110
Neptune enjoys it.
>>3113266
Enjoys licking Anon's feet or gulping down cum?
>>3113110
>>3113110
The rest
>>3113110
No, Weiss wants you to lick her feet.
what if you picked up ruby from middle school and she was really quiet and upset and then she finally asked you why it was bad for girls to like other girls
>>3113365
Neo wants some too.
>>3113367
>>3113415
>Barefeet
what if you found out that your ruby your sweet little rube had been torturing small animals and her closet was full of jars of tiny organs and tiny furry heads and a handful of little skeletons
>>3113626
Delude myself into thinking she was just dissecting owl pellets, and never go imo that closet again.
>>3113626
Say thats pretty fucking rad and ask her if she has any more and help her out like the good friend/whateveriaminthisscenario that I am
Dissection is fucking cool man, biology n' shit, I love that
>>3113909
ever dissected owl pellets? did that my Freshman year
>>3113935
Nah, I was ill the ONE fucking lesson we got to dissect animals in biology at highschool, never got to do that shit. They had frogs, turtles, everything.
Still got to go crazy on a pig heart with a dissection knife towards the end of the year though, that was fun
what if ruby got sucked into a vast overwhelming conspiracy of huge magnitudes
SO WHO HERE LIKES RWBY
>>3114023
Sucks to be you. I did a frog in seventh grade, and then a worm, a fish, a grasshopper, a crawdad, a clam, and another frog in ninth grade. Then the whole class did a cat.
I did a few owl pellets in my free time, found almost an entire vole.
>>3114106
Yo
>>3114106
I only watch because of this girl
>>3114181
Please help, she has something pointed at my head and won't stop making me watch a compilation of her screentime in RWBY
help
>>3113935
Not him, but I once dissected a Squid in 6th grade
The stench was awful and once we cut into it, the tray turned black with ink
>>3114226
I dissected a squid in Freshman year but the suckers scared the shit out of me, I think it's called trypophobia
>>3114138
What are Yang and Ren supposed to be? I think Yang's a witch, no clue on Ren though.
What's this show about?
>>3114384
Waifus
>>3114384
Waifus with weapons killing monsters in a Final Fantasy VIII-esque world
>>3114384
waifus
>>3114106
I might have an addiction. As shitty as the show may be I can't stop watching it. I'm craving more RWBY and the wait for Volume 4 is eating away at me.
>>3114335
I think Ren is supposed to be a Chinese ghost
>>3113909
I remember doing the classic frog dissection in high school. Kinda gross, kinda cool.
The highlight was when one girl accidentally cut into its intestine, which turned out to have just enough pressure to squirt its contents up onto her face...
>>3114335
>>3114539
He's dressed as a Jiangshi which is a Chinese vampire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangshi
>>3114138
>>3114335
>>3114539
Ren's a Jiangshi, or "Chinese Hopping Vampire". In Chinese mythology, they're an undead who're summoned and controlled with a special seal placed over their forehead. The "Hopping" comes from their primary locomotion, due to stiff joints.
Yang I think is supposed to be Marisia from 2hu.
what if someone slipped an unmarked envelope into your mailbox and it was a series of photos of you from afar from above for like 3 months and at the end there was a picture of ruby giving a blank look into a camera and there were hearts drawn on it in crayon
>>3114138
Pyrrha and Jaune totally banged in costume after the party right?
>>3112371
>implying the experience won't have her grow as a person and improve herself
>>3115016
It'd be another character assassination.
>>3115039
You're right, Yang putting in actual thought and effort to change and adapt makes no sense for her established character.
>>3114721
>Hsien-ko
>Darkstalkers
A RWBY crossover with Darkstalkers would be mildly interesting. Shame RoosterTeeth and Capcom are both a shit.
>>3115224
Made me chuckle
>>3115016
>Yang would change for the better dating a whiny brat who's bawling at the world.
>>3115363
Hello there, "Merc is whiny" Anon, what have you been up to?
How do we make Jaune a better harem protagonist?
>>3115618
>I'm tentatively hopeful for that Megaman Cartoon next year.
I was too until I saw the design.
>>3115667
You shoot yourself.
>>3115667
Give him a harem for starters.
He doesn't even have a harem. Yet.
>>3115717
>I was too until I saw the design.
I like it.
Different strokes I suppose.
>>3115727
>Nora is the one holding the cellphone.
>>3115667
>>3115727
Make the girls see embarrassing photos of his childhood. That always works.
They posted the plot premise of Camp Camo
>The show follows Max, a cynical asshole of a ten-year-old who doesn't want to be anywhere near this camp or David, his cheerful optimistic camp counselor. Along with newcomers Nikki and Neil, they'll try to make it through the summer in a camp filled with a cast of characters there for other types of camps.
>>3116150
>All those skin tones
I can hear tumblr's praise already. Also
>That Mr. Freeze kid
I think that's my favorite part of this whole thing
>>3116150
Isn't Miles voicing Max and David?
So wait Burnie and Hot stepmom have been engaged since January?
>>3116150
Looks like a Southpark/Gravity falls rip off.
>>3116372
Heard that on the podcast too
>Burnie calls out his youngest son for buying too many Overwatch loot crates
>Son buys one during the podcast
>>3116449
TEDDY STOP!
And some say that Teddy is still buying loot crates to this very day.
>>3116532
To quote Burnie
>"My youngest, Teddy, who's a jackass"
Remember him?
>>3116150
Mini-Hitler is best boy.
Porn of the skater chick and counselor girl when?
Not necessarily together, though that'd be nice too.
>>3116357
No, Max is definitely MJones
I want Ciel to court-martial my penis!
RWBYg
If you ever think that this General is shit
Just remember that were not the same guys who want to fuck Japanese baseball mascots(yes these people exist on this very board)
>>3116987
Well... What do these mascots look like?
>>3117008
Theres a thread up right now
Look for yourself
Don't click on the Exhentai links though( I haven't had the balls to myself)
>>3116613
I fixed it.
>>3117026
Oh they're fursuit people.
>>3117065
Haha! Nice one!
M E M E D R E A M officially added when?
>>3117065
Come on at least do what I did
>>3116987
We need to form a Reich in which we will use to protect our RWBY waifus from the true degenerates.
>>3117159
And you are alone in wanting that.
>>3117216
>Doesn't want so secure Lebesraum for /pol/
Why?
>>3117216
Nope.
>>3117254
For that exact reason.
>>3117091
Thanks my fellow M E M E D R E A M E R an soon, after all it's just a beta.
>>3117101
>Implying I didn't intentionally Photoshop it like that to collect M E M E power.
All you did was take a PNG an place it above the originally.
>>3117316
>All you did was take a PNG an place it above the originally.
Ah ah ah, I erased the original THEN placed the png and resized it a little.
>>3117254
Because the Arkosfags whining is enough for one thread.
>>3117216
>Not wanting to secure the existence of our people of Remnant and a future for huntress an hunter children?
You can only be 3 things then...
>A fucking degenerate liberal
>A filthy Marxist White Fang
>Or a manipulative shill working for Salem
Regardless you should be gassed.
>>3117441
This isn't paticuarly funny or clever.
>>3117336
You didn't even bother trying to find one or make one with the top of her head still intact.
>>3117494
shut up I tried
>>3117441
>>A fucking degenerate liberal
Reminder that degenerate is just /pol/ for problematic.
>>3117441
I always found it utterly retarded that people are pushing this joke in a 'progressive the show' thread.
>>3117540
Maybe it's actually the opposite, because all that shit about diversity and self-expression seems to do really fucking badly at beating the Grimm and saving humanity in-universe.
>>3117588
And neither did Atlas.
>>3117515
Meh, it's fine I just enjoy being a super critical asshole.
Besides I wouldn't want to be to mean to someone that I will eventually share the same ship with.
>>3117588
Honestly the problem is that they don't have enough diversity and self expression.
The lack of creativity found in the fighting styles is mindnumbingly idiotic.
>>3117650
Your that guy from that /co/ thread I was talking to a few days ago.
>I will eventually share the same ship with.
That's gonna be a weird boat ride
>>3117621
But Atlas is untouched, and they're the only kingdom that isn't either full of poor irrelevant hobos (Vacuo) or criminals and terrorists that actively aid in the downfall of mankind (Vale/Mistral).
>>3117661
I think like ten thousand standardized Pennies would be a vastly more efficient fighting force than teams of four individuals with unique fighting styles and weapons.
Seriously can you imagine the logistics nightmare to provide Dust rounds to hunters who picked .63 or whatever as their gun's caliber because "lol it's my two favorite numbers!"
>>3117661
>The kingdom of Mantle had diversity and self expression.
This is the only description of it because that's all the Remnant Dikes want in the history books.
Mantle is a now-defunct Kingdom in Remnant, located north of Vale. According to the RWBY: World of Remnant episode "Huntsmen", it was the birthplace of the Huntsman academy of Atlas, which soon grew to become Mantle's successor state sometime following the Great War.
>>3117714
>Seriously can you imagine the logistics nightmare to provide Dust rounds to hunters who picked .63 or whatever as their gun's caliber because "lol it's my two favorite numbers!"
>logistical nightmare
Okay. Do you understand what exactly creates logistical nightmares and how the system of hunters in RWBY would actually work to counteract that?
>>3117749
But he didn't say anything about Mantle.
>>3117690
Well shit by proxy that would make you the same guy I talked to a few days ago too.
>That's gonna be a weird boat ride
Indeed but a mighty vessel I'll be happy to be aboard with you.
>>3117714
>logistical nightmare
That's not even remotely a logistical. That is a business opportunity.
>>3117749
That wasn't even what was said.
Are you fucking retarded?
>>3117759
>Every single Hunter needs their own unique supplies to compliment their own personally designed and constructed weapon or fighting style
>Versus providing standardized equipment that every single soldier is familiar with because it's what practically everyone trained with and utilizes
One of these is incredibly unsustainable and illogical and the other isn't. Hint: The one that isn't is the one that the real world goes with.
It's no wonder Remnant is so fucked if they hero-idealize hard enough to throw out all common sense in favor of allowing every single fighter to be their own special snowflake.
>>3117764
>>3117805
>the problem is that they don't have enough diversity and self expression
Please tell me how my reply wasn't relevant when regarding how historically diversity has effected a kingdom that is no defunct/gone?
>>3117789
What's the mighty vessel called? Rainbow Dragon? Memes and Flames?
>>3117853
Anon are you drunk?
I literally cannot understand what you're trying to say.
http://nickinamerica.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Grimm-Tarakava-611337568
Interesting
>>3117868
Maybe a little, I had a long day. Why do you ask?
>>3117829
There is no perfect way to fight. Even if you make everyone fight the same, there's still going to be something for the villain to exploit in some form
At least, I would assume given the way things work in Remnant
I like this sort of team name
>>3117829
Okay first point. You're trying to compare a standing armed force and the issues and standards that they have to be wary of and attend to, to what is more better described as several small mercenary groups which really can't even be called groups and are more akin to fantasy adventuring bands.
Also you keep focusing on the snowflake thing and keep trying to blow it into this whole big deal when most likely the cartridges and materials used by hunters are probably standardized in some way with I guess the SDC having a monopoly on the supplying of ammunition.
Because in the real world, which you want to bring up, we have certain kinds of caliber and cartridge designs because they work. And smart people or obsessed people are the ones that figured it out.
So realistically and making the assumption that not every single hunter in the world is an engineering genius who is sitting down at the age of somewhere between eighteen and thirteen maybe to make their shit, the weapons while highly modular probably have standardized calibers, materials and some parts to make it a little bit easier.
Most of the weapons are combinations of things after all. RWBY is actually fairly odd in regards to their weapons.
This is probably worded like shit.
Good night RWBYg
>>3118043
The world of RWBY seems like a goldmine for the company with the best catalogs.
Seeing as hunters are largely independent outside of Atlas the Corp with the best newsletter is probably the one taking all that hunter dosh.
>>3118043
Well there was an episode were Weiss hands Blake a magazine compatible with Gambol Shroud.
Pic below related.
>>3118109
So there probably is at least in certain aspects universal designs.
I used modular wrong earlier but that is probably what weapons in RWBY are more like.
>>3117978
>There is no perfect way to fight
Yes there is. Or at least REALLY close. Even an imperfect method is preferable if it's ten times as streamlined and utilitarian as the alternative.
>Even if you make everyone fight the same, there's still going to be something for the villain to exploit in some form
At that point you're just saying it works like this because of plot contrivance, because there's zero way that anyone could reasonably think "Yeah even though our enemies are monsters our own people are obviously going to backstab us and work with them somehow".
Like, it might not matter that much if Hunters were some kind of super-elite special forces units that supplemented the general military, but no they're literally the one and only line of defense humanity has against the Grimm. Atlas is the only country that actually has their own standing military integrated that's with their own Hunters and they explicitly get tons of flack for it. Nobody else has an army and normally Hunters just pick and choose to go and do whatever they personally want.
>>3117829
Hunters aren't an army. They are mercenaries. They handle that themselves. Learn the lore.
>>3118109
Y'know what I found weird about that?
That despite the different kinds of dust being pre-loaded, in a set order, Blake was always in a perfect position, that each one she fired off in sequence served her current needs during that fight perfectly.
Just seems wildly unlikely. Or like she could somehow manipulate their position in the magazine.
>>3118043
>to what is more better described as several small mercenary groups which really can't even be called groups and are more akin to fantasy adventuring bands.
It's not even bands. Teams can choose to stay together or split up, and nobody controls what they do, they're just offered missions that they can turn down if they want.
>Also you keep focusing on the snowflake thing and keep trying to blow it into this whole big deal when most likely the cartridges and materials used by hunters are probably standardized in some way with I guess the SDC having a monopoly on the supplying of ammunition.
But that's complete bullshit. We're told outright that every Hunter personally designs and constructs their weapons in like their early teens, and so far not a single one between any of the known characters is close to identical.
Like fuck, Qrow taught Ruby and they both use transforming scythes, but the scythes have completely different shapes, transform differently, have entirely different integrated guns, and Qrow's has a whole different extra form. This is a 1-1 mentor student relationship, but the end result is still so radically different that it's hard to imagine being able to use parts from one of them to fix the other in an emergency.
It's just nonsense.
>>3118126
>Like, it might not matter that much if Hunters were some kind of super-elite special forces units that supplemented the general military, but no they're literally the one and only line of defense humanity has against the Grimm.
That might have something to do with the fact that the population of Remnant is probably incredibly small in comparison to Earth's their need of military is probably much smaller considering they're holding supposedly geographically advantageous positions in a relative time of peace where there is no nations trying to invade or murder the other.
>>3118109
>Blake uses fire, then stone, then ice against Roman
>Dust is lined up fire, water(?) electricity
>>3118156
>It's just nonsense.
And that's fucking RWBY.
In the span of a single ppst you complained about the fact that realism wouldn't allow similar parts to exist while bringing up the fact that probably hundreds of fucking teenagers were able to design and build wonders of engineering.
>>3118156
>Like fuck, Qrow taught Ruby and they both use transforming scythes, but the scythes have completely different shapes, transform differently, have entirely different integrated guns, and Qrow's has a whole different extra form. This is a 1-1 mentor student relationship, but the end result is still so radically different that it's hard to imagine being able to use parts from one of them to fix the other in an emergency.
You're basically complaining that you can't use an AK to repair an AR.
>>3118156
So why the hell would there every be a logistics nightmare?
>>3118137
That's the point you retard.
Why is it these one off mavericks are the singular offensive and defensive measure against the Grimm?
Hell, every single living human that isn't handicapped or totally incapable should have mandated military service even without being Hunters.
>>3118171
But that makes no sense. Humans have been losing the fight against the Grimm for so long that they literally only have four large population centers on the entire planet left, why the fuck is ANYBODY content to sit behind their walls and put the entirety of their hopes for survival on just a few Hunters? Does nobody want to actually fight the Grimm and expand? Are they not worried about a concentrated effort wiping out literally one-fourth of their population in a single stroke?
That came VERY close to happening with Vale. The Hunters alone could do nothing to stop the tide of Grimm once it actually focused in, if it wasn't for deus ex silver eyes freezing the wyvern and thus attracting all the Grimm to it in Beacon, the city very well could have fallen overnight.
>>3118267
>Does nobody want to actually fight the Grimm and expand?
Yeah pretty much.
They don't particularly have any reason to fight for expansion aside from what will eventually be population issues which don't really seem to be a problem.
They are after all barely removed a generation or two from a major war with consequences well beyond those of any we can imagine.
The fact that they're probably still trying to breed in relative safety is probably why they're not jonesing to form a military and start pushing back.
>That came VERY close to happening with Vale. The Hunters alone could do nothing to stop the tide of Grimm once it actually focused in, if it wasn't for deus ex silver eyes freezing the wyvern and thus attracting all the Grimm to it in Beacon, the city very well could have fallen overnight.
Because of the machinations of Salem.
If I had a cat and that cat killed any rat that tried to get into my house I could be called stupid for not making an attempt to get rid of them in the backyard but I don't have the money for that and that cat kills all that enter.
But what happened is that someone, a human came in and kicked the utter shit out of my cat and started throwing pregnant rats around my house.
The Grimm had to be assisted by intelligent design to get at Vale and for that to happen there had to be idiots bumfuck stupid enough to look at possible extinction and think it a good idea.
>>3118141
>>3118177
Faunus witch craft I guess.
>>3118125
The market is probably quite a nice business to be in with everyone looking to make the ultimate weapon for themselves an all the parts need to do so.
>>3118207
Being fantasy doesn't justify it though. I'm willing to accept something like super-teens creating their own weapons, but the show has explicitly criticized the creation of a join Hunter/military force with Atlas. Everybody in-universe berates them for not just having their own standing military, but also combining it with their Hunter forces, despite that being the most sensible thing you could possibly do.
>>3118222
The thing is, in reality that's why the AK (And the M16 and all it's close relatives and descendants in the US) are so prolific. Much better guns can and have been made, but those models are so completely ubiquitous, that attempting to replace them and thus necessitate the obsoletion of all the training, parts, and ammo that's already ingrained into the military, just isn't worth the effort.
>>3118240
Okay, stick with me here.
>RWBY is out on a mission
>Yang's Ember Celica happens to break down/run out of ammo
>Nobody can help her repair it because not only does nobody else other than her know how it works, nobody carries any of it's necessary parts or ammo
>Yang can no longer use it while on that mission
>After returning home, she needs to send away for the custom mechanisms needed because none of the local dealers happen to have an abundance of "extendable shotgun gauntlets in sun-yellow"
>Yang has possibly caused the failure of a job and been rendered unable to fight for who knows how long simply because her weapon is unique to herself
Are you getting it? It would be absurd for an industry to try and accommodate all of these Hunter's very specific needs, especially in a timely manner when they should be out stopping the constant tide of death just outside the kingdom's borders.
>>3118343
>Yeah pretty much.
But that's stupid. Like SO stupid that it stretches any semblance of believably even beyond the standards RWBY has already set for itself.
It's also explicitly false. We know for a fact that people DO want to beat the Grimm and expand, that's the entire deal with Mountain Glenn (Which I'm pretty sure was in the recent past and not before the war eighty fucking years ago) along with other small villages that constantly try to make it outside of the cities, but the only support they have are the whims of Hunters who may or may not choose to accept their requests.
>Because of the machinations of Salem.
Honestly, Salem didn't need to do much. Vale already had it's own extensive criminal element, and lots of (Supposed) racial tension.
What if some bad egg Faunus just happened to kill a Human during the tournament? Or the opposite? Salem's plans accelerated things, but all they were doing was stoking animosity that already existed.
Put it this way, your cat can kill all the mice it likes, but they're still gonna keep coming in as long as you leave rotted fucking food sitting everywhere. So you can either take out the trash, or get more cats, but doing neither is setting yourself up for some plague.
>>3118391
>despite that being the most sensible thing you could possibly do.
That is not even remotely the most sensible thing to do considering the current political and sociological landscape of Remanent.
As somebody mentioned before the population of Remanent is probably greatly smaller than Earth's own and the nations of the world number only four and have absolutely no reason or purpose for going to war with each other.
A standing army is pointless considering the fact that the grimm are handicapped by the geological positioning of the nations.
Atlas is probably getting a lot of shit because they trying to have something that would in normal situations do nothing more than stand around and act as Atlas throwing it's weight around.
As for the situation you described with Yang, that is literally what would happen in the field with a universally assigned weapon, with the possible exception of the ammo bit which itself carries it's own issues.
A fireteam all carrying and being familiar with the same weapons does not automatically translate to the ability to be able to fix it in the field. If damage occurs to a weapon to such a degree that jury rigging fixes are not possible without spare parts, the parts you need and the fix necessary are most likely not going to be able to be done in the field. That advantages of a standard weapons translates off that battlefield where the bureaucratic and logistical system is able to simply send the soldier another rifle when he is safely not being shot at.
You keep trying to compare their situation that of a standing military while not understanding that the method of operation the military abides by did not create the military. It was created because of the military.
>>3118459
>Honestly, Salem didn't need to do much.
Salem had to do a fuckload.
>>3118459
Salem had to do lot of shit that would be impossible for nearly anyone else.
>>3118391
Not the anon you replayed to but you've made some good points.
But I'd also argue that a lot of groups in Remnant do have standard issue an universal weapons as we've seen after all Junior Xiong's henchmen and the White Fang do this a lot an the Vale guards armor looks pretty similar to Atlas soldiers aside from color scheme, so standard issue weapons 'n gear isn't really rare among the common people it's just not something a hunter/huntress would do.
>>3118459
>But that's stupid. Like SO stupid that it stretches any semblance of believably even beyond the standards RWBY has already set for itself.
Except it really doesn't.
You're describing how hellish the situation outside the safe and secure nations are while in the same breathe, expressing your disbelief that these people are not forming massive armies to push back against the neverending, always respawning creatures that are explicitly drawn to negative emotions, which is largely what you find in armies going to war against such odds.
It hasn't been shown well in the story but we are told that the world of Remanent is one where humanity is small and battered.
You're criticizing the nations for basically trying to be able to walk before they are capable of running.
>>3118459
>What if some bad egg Faunus just happened to kill a Human during the tournament? Or the opposite? .
These non-godlike grimm controlling loonies probably would have been collectively gang jumped by the watching hunters and the military forces Atlas had in play would have been able to actually operate as intended instead of being sabotaged.
MAGA!
>>3118391
>The thing is, in reality that's why the AK (And the M16 and all it's close relatives and descendants in the US) are so prolific. Much better guns can and have been made, but those models are so completely ubiquitous, that attempting to replace them and thus necessitate the obsoletion of all the training, parts, and ammo that's already ingrained into the military, just isn't worth the effort.
Why do you keep comparing hunters to the military?
>>3118571
>Remnant's population is relatively (There's not actually any proof for this) small
>The Kingdoms don't have much reason to war against each other
>This means they don't need armies
>Despite the fact that there is a massive Horde of monsters covering 90% of the world that exists only to destroy humans and all they've ever created
Are you fucking stupid? Who in their right mind would ever sit in that situation and say "Yeah our geographical positioning is more than enough, so lets go ahead and sit here like a ripe egg with our defenseless citizens as the yummy helpless yolk if the shell was ever cracked".
>As for the situation you described with Yang, that is literally what would happen in the field with a universally assigned weapon,
No, in the field with everybody carrying the same weapon, you have redundancy. It's likely everyone has spare parts and ammo, everyone understands how to use their comrade's weapons if they need to, everyone understand's each other's capabilities completely and what they can and cannot to, and yes, a broken gun becomes a very simple situation to solve by higher-ups after the fight is over.
You don't need to look at modern militaries for this. Throughout all of history, the army that has standardized equipment and training has been superior to a force that just allows it's soldiers to use their own personal weaponry.
>>3118156
>and so far not a single one between any of the known characters is close to identical.
>close to identical.
That's not how modular weaponry works.
And for one thing Ren and Sun's weapons are basically pistols that differ in grip, Nora and Yang's weapons are actually rather similarly designed except one expands into a hammer with the aid of a shaft and the other is a gauntlet
>>3118768
>It's likely everyone has spare parts
Nope.
>Ammo
Something you actually want to avoid having to do because of the principles of division.
Why do you keep comparing hunters to the military.
>>3114739
I finally understand that one mission in Sly Cooper, Honor Among Thieves with the Chinese hopping vampire Grasshopper baddies where you have to blow them up with Panda King's fireworks
>>3118768
>>>3118571
>>Remnant's population is relatively (There's not actually any proof for this) small
>>The Kingdoms don't have much reason to war against each other
>>This means they don't need armies
>>Despite the fact that there is a massive Horde of monsters covering 90% of the world that exists only to destroy humans and all they've ever created
>Are you fucking stupid? Who in their right mind would ever sit in that situation and say "Yeah our geographical positioning is more than enough, so lets go ahead and sit here like a ripe egg with our defenseless citizens as the yummy helpless yolk if the shell was ever cracked".
People who live almost literally at the foot of a school filled with hunters.
>>3118588
>>3118596
I really don't think so. Everything CMEN did could have happened naturally with the exception of broadcasting that message and reprogramming the robots. It's simply a matter of chance for certain things like spiked WF activity and casualties in the tournament to have lined up. Even if the chances are low, the stakes are so high and the repercussions so bad that putting every single contingency on Hunters alone is irresponsible.
>>3118643
But that's just the thing, these groups are relatively standardized so even if the Hunters aren't (They seem really big on the individuality side of things) then why does each country not have their own supplementary military? As it is everything seems privatized, Beacon for example isn't connected to Vale's government.
>>3118768
>Are you fucking stupid? Who in their right mind would ever sit in that situation and say "Yeah our geographical positioning is more than enough, so lets go ahead and sit here like a ripe egg with our defenseless citizens as the yummy helpless yolk if the shell was ever cracked".
Because they're not defenseless.
There's a standing base and training facility filled with hunters and hunters in training in every nation.
>>3118812
>Beacon for example isn't connected to Vale's government.
Actually the council told Ozpin to go fuck himself remember?
>>3118654
It really does.
People DO try to colonize outside the kingdoms, it just doesn't have any official support outside of the Hunters, who again can choose whether or not to help.
It's not just in terms of an offensive, they also put every facet of defense on the Hunters too. Basically they're not running OR walking, they're not even crawling, they're sitting in their cribs and sucking their fucking thumbs with zero preparation either for future endeavors or possible unforeseen catastrophes. There is no safety net here, nobody is ready for anything.
Furthermore, I seriously think you overestimate how terrible the fallout of the war eighty years ago was. I'm moderately certain there's been additional wars since that time even.
Also, I see things are as boring as ever. But yeah, I always figured that those grasshopper vampires in Sly Cooper were just another animal themed baddie.
Also, disregard the blog, but a coworker actually mentioned RWBY in casual conversation about vidya and anime today and funny thing was he didn't turn into a massive Pyrrha-fag until she died during that fight. So apparently Arkos shippers are all around me and they hardly look it. Dude was nice though. Never thought that would happen. Anyone else run into a RWBY fan randomly like that?
Also, Ciel still a best timelord
>>3118699
Oh they get jumped? What good does that do against the collective negativity of millions of people watching it live?
The Grimm were ALREADY attacking the city before Cinder was even done with her fucking speech, and I'd wager a human killing a robot was way less outrage-inducing than a Faunus killing a human would have been.
>>3118737
Because for all intents and purposes, Hunters fulfill the role of a military for all of Remnant, just with zero of the support that being an actual military force comes with.
>>3118863
> it just doesn't have any official support outside of the Hunters
Because all signs point to how idiotic it is to try to do it.
>hey also put every facet of defense on the Hunters too. Basically they're not running OR walking, they're not even crawling, they're sitting in their cribs and sucking their fucking thumbs with zero preparation either for future endeavors or possible unforeseen catastrophes. There is no safety net here, nobody is ready for anything.
Except for the fact that the nations are mentioned as all being capable of raising armies in times of need and the nations are regularly producing new technology.
>>3118891
>Because for all intents and purposes, Hunters fulfill the role of a military for all of Remnant
No that would be the actual militaries the nations have which are explicitly stated to only be called up in times of strife.
>>3118891
Except they're not.
Haven't you been noticing that people keep using the phrase standing armies?
>>3118772
>automatic pistols with blades are the same as lever-action nunchuck shotguns
>collapsible gauntlet shotguns are the same as a grenade launcher-hammer
>>3118863
>People DO try to colonize outside the kingdoms, it just doesn't have any official support outside of the Hunters, who again can choose whether or not to help.
Because that is not even remotely a good idea.
>>3118928
>So retards with a false sense of security, you mean.
In almost every single other situation imaginable those hunters would have been perfectly serviceable.
You keep downplaying exactly how much damage Cinder was capable of doing due to her power and circumstance.
>>3118928
No they're not.
Do you know what a military is?
>>3118917
>Teenagers were able to build them
And if you were to actually look at Nora and Yang's weaponry you would notice the similarities immediately.
>>3118817
A lot of good that did when the Grimm came rolling in didn't it? We didn't see a SINGLE Hunter that wasn't already there out defending the city. The academy had to be defended by the fucking student body, not a single person other than Ruby thought "Maybe we should take care of the rouge airship broadcasting order 66".
Yes I recognize the reason for this. No that doesn't make up for the fact that graduated Hunters seem to be fucking worthless.
Hell, the news after the Yangining was literally begging "Hey guys even with the Atlas army here we ain't doing shit to stop the Grimm streaming towards the city, could maybe more Hunters come and help before we all die?"
>>3118826
Sure, but maybe that was a tournament thing. We're told that the Huntsmen don't have ties to any kingdom in particular.
Which again seems like a bad idea, because you'd think that the people who trained in a specific area would be the most qualified to protect that area.
>>3118980
>Yes I recognize the reason for this. No that doesn't make up for the fact that graduated Hunters seem to be fucking worthless.
So the entirity of your argument about the uslessness of hunters is going forward even though you know that the reason for that was the fact that the company that made RWBY didin't have the resources for a proper battle.
>>3118928
>So retards with a false sense of security, you mean.
Like Atlas and their standing army of robots and aura user equal mechs.
>>3118902
>>3118911
But we're outright told that no kingdom other than Atlas really has a military.
What the fuck good would a Vale militia be if it has no training regimen, no industry, and it isn't prepared to defend the city even with advanced warning?
That's some America pre-War of 1812 shit which leads to things like Canada burning down the White House without anybody doing something to stop them.
>>3118893
>having some sort of backup to only relying on international Hunters for national protection is idiotic
Seriously I just don't get it. There is no downside for the kingdoms to have their own militaries in addition to the Hunters, and not doing it seems almost suicidal.
>>3118980.
>Hey guys even with the Atlas army here ?"
A good portion of whom were on the enemies side.
You're using as an example an occasion where the army actually made things worse.
i want ruby to call me her bff
>>3118964
Seriously how dumb are you?
You also have to remember, Atlas has a further advantage in that they have Neon Katt. Her strong meme power keeps Atlas citizens happier, so Atlas attracts less attention from Grimm.
Honestly, Atlas seem to be the only players in the game who know what they're doing, Salem aside.
>>3119063
Well you should have responded when she called you it back in Vale, Weiss.
>>3119029
>Seriously I just don't get it. There is no downside for the kingdoms to have their own militaries in addition to the Hunters, and not doing it seems almost suicidal.
This is literally a universe where negative emotion attracts demons from hell.
>>3119029
>What the fuck good would a Vale militia be if it has no training regimen, no industry, and it isn't prepared to defend the city even with advanced warning?
In the short term about as much good as the Atlas military did.
Chibi when?
>>3119074
no you missed the point i was trying to be tsundere
what if ruby was convinced you were working for cinder and restrained you and was interrogating you and you tried to tell her you were innocent but she wouldn't listen and she kept getting angrier and angrier about what cinder did and was starting to really badly hurt you
>>3119066
Did not pass preschool. :-/
>>3119029
>What the fuck good would a Vale militia be if it has no training regimen, no industry, and it isn't prepared to defend the city even with advanced warning?
At no point it is explicitly stated that that is the case.
And you keep saying that actual military would have made a difference when the actual occupational force that Atlas brought in was next to useless and actually made things worse.
A lot of your arguments hinge around the fact that you're downplaying Cinder's actions in the role of the story and you keep trying to paint hunters as a military instead of what they actually are, an adventurers guild.
>>3119029
>There is no downside for the kingdoms to have their own militaries in addition to the Hunters.
This is a universe where monsters converge on negative emotion and bloodshed.
It's the same issue that arises with the idea of expanding. In that combat, in the scale of a military, would just create and endless cycle of attacking Grimm.
>>3118927
Then why is part of Hunter training going off to help protect these places?
>>3118947
There are countless circumstances where something practically identical to what Cinder did happens completely by chance and the result of the Grimm invading is the same.
Someone would have to be living off in their own head to think that nothing bad could ever happen to cause enough negativity to draw the Grimm to invade.
>>3118949
Yes, and the Hunters are basically an international military peacekeeping force they don't have any of the ties or infrastructure that a military does, but that is the role they fulfill. Badly.
>>3119011
The Atlas military was pretty good before getting hacked. Breach for example could have been a lot worse if they hadn't helped contain the Grimm as well.
Christ if the big mechs are as good normally as when they were hacked, each one is worth several Hunters by itself.
>>3119126
The Atlas military were practically fucking steamrolled by the Grimm and aura using characters
>>3119154
>There are countless circumstances where something practically identical to what Cinder did happens completely by chance and the result of the Grimm invading is the same.
No there aren't.
You do realize the stack of dominoes Cinder had to put in place to cause the fall right?
>>3119154
>Christ if the big mechs are as good normally as when they were hacked, each one is worth several Hunters by itself.
Well... Hunter students.
Sorry to muddy the waters further, but we mainly see the trainee hunters fighting. The adult hunters seem to be stronger still, in most cases.
>>3119154
>Christ if the big mechs are as good normally as when they were hacked, each one is worth several Hunters by itself.
Hunters in training.
Who had among them members who were capable of downing them on their own.
>>3119001
Well they did have a battle, with the students, but despite knowing it was because of animation that doesn't make up for it in-universe.
On the whole the Hunters being spread out across all the kingdoms leaves each one weak individually, especially to a concentrated attack like we saw.
>>3119050
No, before that. After Yang broke Mercury's leg, we see that the Grimm start streaming towards the city, and even with Atlas helping there just aren't enough Hunters to do anything about it, or at least not enough active since officials were begging on the news for more help.
>>3119174
> You do realize the stack of dominoes Cinder had to put in place to cause the fall right?
Indeed. Cinder is a genius and her plan was a masterstroke. Very cleverly hit Vale as hard as possible.
>>3119185
>concentrated attack
Concentrated attack?
You're downplaying the degree of that assult by magnitudes.
>>3119185
So you're arguing that an actual military would have made a difference when an actual military being in play barely made a difference.
>>3119095
Weiss stop watching texan anime and get back to escaping Atlas.
>>3119188
Obviously bait but this is so important.
This was not the actions of a terrorist group or some disgruntled lunatics. It was the actions of a demon woman living in hell playing for the powers of some semi-demigods.
Army or no army it would not have made a difference. Actually if the play had been centered on Atlas the devastation probably would have been worse.
>>3119154
And the Hunters were pretty good before Cinder did her thing.
>>3119242
Not bait. Cinder really is extremely cunning and good at executing a plan, and her leadership skills make the villains magnitudes more dangerous.
She knew just how to manipulate events to suit her objectives. And she didn't just hit Vale with every force she had at her disposal, she demoralised and confused them before that and then made sure to cripple their academy for good measure.
>>3119250
> Atlas sent like three ships with Ironwood
IIRC there's actually a few more, at one point. You see more than three either out of Ozpin's tower or just as the attack starts.
But yeah, once Roman makes his return there are seemingly only three ships up there. Animation oversight, I guess.
>>3119250
>Yes a military would have made a difference. Especially if it wasn't one that could just be fucking hacked.
Except it really fucking wouldn't because you keep ignoring the fact that everything that went wrong was almost entirely orchestrated by Cinder and Co.
At best we would have seen their uniforms before they got mauled.
>>3119174
Yes there are. Cinder herself says that the whole thing was fucking easy.
I already outlined a very simple situation earlier that could lead to the Grimm attacking, the only way it wouldn't be possible is if everyone lived in a utopia.
>>3119175
>>3119182
Sure. But I mean, if a couple are equal to a dozen or so Hunter students, they can't be drastically weaker than a single full Hunter, not to the degree that they're not worth producing.
Like Qrow could probably destroy one no problem, but one could also probably kill a hundred minor Grimm itself since they're not that strong. What I'm saying here is that a supplementary force is good.
>>3119249
What did she do to make the Hunters less good?
>>3119185
>>>3119001
>Well they did have a battle, with the students, but despite knowing it was because of animation that doesn't make up for it in-universe.
So in another universe where the Vale military consists of ten guys you'd be arguing how useless they were despite the fact that the animation is to blame.
>>3119295
>they can't be drastically weaker than a single full Hunter, no
You have seen the gap in skill between the second and first years right?
>>3119295
>Cinder herself says
Cinder is backed by Salem.
>>3119195
I really don't think so. It was relatively large-scale, but the trainees managed to hold Beacon themselves for quite a while.
I mean, in terms of numbers how many Grimm do you think attacked?
>>3119202
The military that was there there hacked and turned against the other defenders. Do you not think that an entire Vale military would have been completely ineffectual at defending the city and it's people?
>>3119310
I don't know about that, anon. The Vytal tournament had no regard for school year but Yang still got to the finals.
>>3119325
What if all Salem does is standing around looking ominous and making scary speeches, and allying with her achieves nothing?
Cinder might be working with her out of pity.
>>3119345
I put it up to Yang being exceptionally powerful, myself. Same for Pyrrha.
I don't know what school year Sun is in, but him making it to the finals might be a little less believable of he's just a first year.
>>3119329
>The military that was there there hacked and turned against the other defenders. Do you not think that an entire Vale military would have been completely ineffectual at defending the city and it's people?
Considering the time it takes to actually raise an army and the fact that Cinder would have been well aware of them yeah probably.
I mean why use the Battle of Beacon as an example if how ineffectual hunters are?
Nobody looked good during that. Ironwood's phone and forces were hacked, his ship was high jacked and shot others out of the sky and the Grimm and Neo slaughtered them like jobbers.
>>3119365
Sun originally wasn't meant to be in the finals anyway.
>>3119295
>What I'm saying here is that a supplementary force is good.
Which got hacked and whose human side got slaughtered.
>>3119286
Ships as in the big ones, of which there were like three or four, max.
Unless that was Atlas' ENTIRE military, an equivalent Vale force that wasn't just removed from the equation might have just stopped the invasion cold.
>>3119290
Except you're ignoring that Ozpin KNEW the Grimm had a directing intelligence on their side and SPECIFICALLY that she had agents somewhere in his own halls.
But, he doesn't have ANY fucking plan to try and counteract any of this. He was opposed to any military presence solely on the grounds that it could make people nervous. It's like his one and only idea was to try and keep people happy and ignorant of the danger so they didn't get riled up and attract Grimm, which is relatively sound in a world where the Grimm are just dumb animals and can't coordinate, but he KNOWS that he doesn't live in that world, so the fact that he did nothing else is the utmost in retardation.
>>3119382
No, but he would have lost to Pyrrha and Nora (first years) so the point is moot.
>>3119374
>Vale has a standing force ready
>Cinder just sends Mercury and Adam
>>3119398
>Unless that was Atlas' ENTIRE military, an equivalent Vale force that wasn't just removed from the equation might have just stopped the invasion cold.
You keep acting like what happened canonically is what would happen in this HFY fanfic of yours.
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>>3119398
>Ships as in the big ones, of which there were like three or four, max.
>Unless that was Atlas' ENTIRE military, an equivalent Vale force that wasn't just removed from the equation might have just stopped the invasion cold.
Or more likely Cinder would have done something about them like she did with Atlas.
>>3119398
You can't stop this hotness cold.
Not even Ozpin and Pyrrha could stall the Fall! It took sheer deus ex machina superpowers to do what two of Vale's best couldn't,
>>3119310
As people have said, it doesn't seem that big. There were three first year students in the finals, and not a single upperclassmen that we know of. I would say Mercury is representative of a higher year of student, maybe a graduate.
The point is, even if they're not equal to Hunters, that doesn't mean they're not worth having.
>>3119386
I don't get what you're saying, how does that have any bearing on some theoretical Vale military?
>>3119325
Even if Salem made the entire plan, Cinder still executed it and to her it was easy. It really seemed as though shit just kept lining up that made everything even simpler to screw up than it already was.
>>3119300
If those ten guys showed up and got slaughtered they still would have been worth it and better than absolutely nothing.
>>3119419
Considering how much stronger Cinder's crew is than the main cast and the performance of the mechs against trainee hunters, squishy humans would have been slaughtered.
Like it would be good for some laughs then it would just get sad.
>>3119374
What I'm saying is the army should have already existed. They shouldn't have needed to raise some militia in a few days, it should have been around as a standing force.
The stakes a so high here, I can literally not comprehend any reason why Vale would not have it's own military prepared just in case something were to happen.
>>3119487
Because they are at the feet of a hunter school.
The thing you don't seem to understand is that Cinder basically S Ranked everything. What she did was not something any Mook off could have done. It was not even something the White Fang could have managed on it's own.
The idea of Cinder's plot was inconceivable and she managed to run laps around Atlas while she was at it as well, making their prize robot and new army the catalyst of the crisis.
>>3119413
Maybe they would have been a big help, maybe they would have been useless, but not existing at all makes the people of the kingdoms look like inhuman retards that don't care about their own safety.
>>3119419
>Something bad might happen to the military so we just shouldn't have one
I don't even understand your argument. Or at least I must be misunderstanding it because it sounds too retarded to have possibly been created by a human being.
>Ironwood knew about Cinder
>Cinder still managed to hack his phone, kill his fuckdoll, shoot down his plane, steal his army, make him look like a bitch.
>>3119528
>I don't even understand your argument. Or at least I must be misunderstanding it because it sounds too retarded to have possibly been created by a human being.
Really?
That post was just saying that a Vale military would not have been able to stop the plan cold.
Your reading comprehension can't be that bad?
>>3119536
>can't hinder the cinder
