I wonder if this is finally going to be what kills furaffinity.
Funny thing is that some users actually mentioned this in the comments of that last announcement.
They were saying that it's highly likely that this information was stolen, so force a password change for everyone.
After all the people who took the site down, have had a week to mess with it already.
They've probably stolen absolutely everything from that site and apparently people started reporting their accounts getting broken into.
Now a day later they're saying
>Yyeah some info was stolen, uh.. hold on.
I really want to see this site go down in flames, just to spread the fandom around a bit to other sites and to get away from Neer's incompetence.
Not to mention imagine the butthurt that would ensue.
>>2975857
I dunno, I kindly like seeing the site suffer a long and painful death.
It's very refreshing to see a lot of hard core white knights come to the painful realization that 'neer is an awful human and completely incompetent with all of his fuck ups on that site.
So what do you think will take over if FA does die?
>>2975900
>suffer a long and painful death.
FA is like a zombie at this point. with all the shit that's happened to it, all the downtime and drama, it SHOULD be dead, but it's not. the userbase just keeps coming back, like flies to shit.
>>2975947
VCL managed to have it's thunder stolen, so there's a chance. IDK how big that chance is because FA ended up a lot bigger.
>>2975947
And it makes it very hard for the smaller artists to leave the place, because the traffic is there.
You leave when you're a small artist and it's goodbye to your commissioners.
If the top 10 or 20 artists fucked off from that site, we'd be seeing a mass migration of people.
That's all it would take.
So let's hope that some of the big names are going to be hurt in this massive security breach, which encourages them to fuck off.
That's the only way to kill the site.
>>2975724
>Tfw use an old account to browse
>Commission artists in tumbled Bitcoin
>Password is legacy ass giberish, and they can't crack it with a salted hash.
>Use VPN regularly
Protect your privacy lads.
No one is going to do it for you as they're all incompetent.
>>2975947
I've had an account since 2005, and I know next to nothing about the admins or any drama.
>>2976134
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/FurAffinity
>>2975724
>Tfw use an old account to browse
>Commission artists in tumbled Bitcoin
>Password is old randomized and memorized.
>Hashed info won't do shit.
>Use VPN regularly
Protect your privacy lads.
No one is going to do it for you as they're all incompetent.
>>2976103
>>2976251
>>2976317
Well fuck me.
I guess UDP and a spotty WIFI connection are a bad idea.
>mfw I'm a retard and didn't migrate my porn browsing habits after any of the previous fuckups so I still follow most artists exclusively through my retardedly long watchlist
guess I was asking to be screwed over when this eventually happened
>my mfw when I have no face
>>2976732
FA is really the only place people are going to stick around, hacker attacks or not. It's the place to get current art of your favorite fetishes. e621 / f-chan / f-list / u(eighteen)chan just won't have anything right off the artist's computer.
People aren't willing to up and move due to laze / ease of use FA has been.
What is the largest community after FA? As in, one which isn't just a porndump like e621 or /trash/?
I want FA to die too, but where will all the users go?
>>2976992
Weasyl or inkbunny I guess
I wish someone would just remake the Pixiv code for muricans like how literally who did that from 2chan's code when he made 4chan
Reverse engineering pixiv code shouldn't be THAT hard
>>2976992
weasyl maybe?
if you count non-dedicated sites, definitely tumblr
>>2977041
>pixiv code
>can't even save gifs or post swfs
>can't change upload files, have to reupload
>rating system and tiny comment space
There's definitely better sites from a capability standpoint.
>>2977255
the only bad thing is gifs, swfs are shit tier people should be replacing both with webm anyway
as for comment space being small that's do you really want to see people rp'ing or putting down life story/vent shit? the size is just enough to say what NEEDS too be said and not too much.
>>2977805
>swfs
>not for flash games
also comments can have some constructive criticism. sometimes.
>>2977805
swfs and webms don't even share the same niche, swfs can be interactive, webm's can't. If you said "replace gifs with webm" that'd make more sense.
Also, you generally don't need MUCH space for comments, but some decent space is fine. In my 10 years on FA i've gotten rpfags all of 3 times, and I post art constantly.
How long do you think it's going to take for them to fix the code?
From what I gather, the problems have been there for ages, but they haven't been fucked to fix them.
So are they having to actually going to hire someone competent to fix this shit or what?
I almost wish that the site would stay down for a week at minimum or so.
It's going to drive people to create accounts on other sites.
>>2983340
>fix the code
anon, I don't think you grasp the magnitude of how bad it is. it's literally all barely functional spaghetti. they wouldn't have to just take it down for a week, they'd have to rewrite the whole thing. and I can guarantee you they aren't competent enough to do anything of worth with it.
>never did anything with account but to look up and download written porn with a bullshit username and password and an email made just for it because I'm already paranoid about anything I do online
wahahahah
>>2984453
Same, except I was dumb enough to use an actual email. Still did practically nothing with it except keep tabs on artists I like.
>>2983596
The worst thing is, they had YEARS to make the site good and write in from the scratch in the background.
>>2976992
twitter probably
but that means I'd have to learn how to into twitter which I reeaaaally don't want to
Literally who
>>2975724
I've only heard nothing but words of how incompetent Dragoneer is when it comes to the administration of FA. Dragoneer should just step down and someone actually competent should replace him, but I guess that'll never happen.
>>2977255
not to mention the retards still haven't implemented https.
I avoid that site simply for that alone, which fucking sucks because I love the content posted there.
Do you people have short memories? not the first time, won't be the last time.
One time it was in read only mode for like 2 fucking weeks.
>>2989045
Read only, yes. It's even been down for months at a time
But "Sorry guys all your passwords and emails got leaked" is a whole different level of incompetence.
Not only that, but waiting over a week to tell us. I mean, the second you hear "we have hackers attacking us" you should assume that as a user, but it's still massively irresponsible to sit on that knowledge
what were the passwords hashed in?
>>2989213
It took them a month to tell people they sold the site off to IMVU. Taking a week to tell you your passwords got leaked is an improvement by comparison.
I was just reading the passwords are unsalted sha-1.
So they may as well be plaintext. Lol.
>Site still down.
Good good.
I'm pretty sure it's going to take them at least a month to unfuck themselves.
There's just too much work for them to get around this easily.
Not to mention every day this site is down, it's a money loss to IMVU.
Now grow alternative art sites, sap away at that userbase.
>>2989360
And this damn thing is the cherry on top of it.
This is going to result in an insane amount of security breaches on people's emails, maybe even their paypals and stuff like that.
So many people using same passwords for multiple things.
I hope Neer gets fucking fired because of this.
>>2989545
>neer gets fired
by who? he's the guy in charge. Our best hope is a userbase revolt
>>2989689
He's not in charge, IMVU is his boss now.
He probably just negotiated the position of leading the site into the sale contract, so he got to remain there supervising things.
If his incompetence costs enough money for IMVU, then without a doubt he'll get kicked out.
What was the point of selling to imvu again?
>>2989360
oh good lord
>>2990548
neer getting dolla bills
>>2976992
probably inkbunny but that's loaded up with cub porn
>>2990682
>implying that's a bad thing
What's the opinion on furrynetwork? A lot of artists seemed to be jumping ship to there.
>>2991098
I know nothing about the site itself, but past shit would tell me it's either going to end up a ghosttown or defunct, though the people running it have some history (from what I know, it's the bad dragon/flist guys? or maybe it's e621? I am not sure), so it probably won't die
>>2991098
Good thing is it seems you can view adult content without an account
Bad thing is it seems everything is written in javascript or something.
>>2991098
It's built on the same Instagram Ruby on Rails bullshit, that seems to be the go to thing regarding lazy and quick site design at the moment.
That place is going to be dated as fuck in few short years and they won't be able to change it.
Not to mention I don't want to use a site that looks more like an Instagram gallery with hashtags and short previews of descriptions, than a proper gallery.
I want the gallery to look and function like a gallery, instead of something that's intended for speedposting your short paragraphs about the food you just ate at starbucks.
I mean look at this fucking comment system.
Comments have a @ in them, which is retarded, instead of plain old keywords you have these hashtags and the whole comment column is smushed to the side, which encourages shorter and shorter comments, and you're not even able to see the full description without clicking "read more"
This is just going to end up in idiots asking questions, they could have just read from the descriptions if it was fully shown by default and under the picture where they're forced to scroll past it.
Not going to be using that site myself.
>>2975947
Largest furry userbase on a single site = keeping any kind of gallery open as a commission advert will always be viable, which is how the site manages to stay alive despite massive admin incompetence.
>>2990298
IMVU couldn't give two shits about the site beyond whatever metadata it can glean from the userbase.
>>2990682
Association with cub porn is exactly why that won't happen.
my guess is some combination of weasyl/tumblr/twitter, but it won't matter because if FA comes back up again they'll all keep maintaining some kind of gallery on FA.
>>2991494
>that site design
Why did sites decide to be as clusterfucky as possible?
It's cellphones, isn't it? Every site needs to be cellphone compliant, aka "just cram everything in the middle and give it 100 px of space, MAX
FA is a shit site but at least it stayed stuck in the past on that regard.
I'm genuinely upset about the internet going from "everything is in it's own neat little box so it's easily distinguishable from other shit" to "just cram it all together in a SMOOTH HOMOGENOUS INTERFACE"
>>2991630
It's because webdevs are lazy and don't want to dev two versions of the same site.
So instead of making everyone use an interface optimized for desktop use (those are perfectly usable on phones), everything has to look like tabletshite.
>>2976103
>being this paranoid
>>2991630
It's phones + social media and people having short as fuck attention spans.
Every site tries to be as social or as connected as possible.
Not to mention people have gotten lazy as shit with site design and don't want to have anything that's "old and boring"
Which is an attitude I fucking hate. Just because something is old doesn't mean it doesn't work.
So what we get is tons of Instagram/Twitter copies with hip and cool hashtags, trying to function as art galleries.
Personally I think that one of the better gallery and artsite designs I've seen, is the 2004-2006 era DeviantArt.
Simple and straightforward with no intrusive social bullshit included.
>Finally start using account I set up for browsing ages ago to start posting/maintaining a gallery (because I tried Deviantart years ago but that place might as well be a fossilized tomb.)
>this shit happens within a month
But, I didn't want to have to start a tumblr!
Weasyl is going open source right?
Someone should take their code, and fork a better site.
The furry fandom does nothing but disappoint me.
I blame the fact it managed to create a consumerist environment without corporate influence. So now you've got rampant spending on art from people who're only somebodies within the fandom.
Or something, I mean IT'S JUST A THEORY. A GAY THEORY.
>>2991098
The design is an absolutely horrible web 3.0 javascript ball of cancer.
I'd sooner stop masturbating than use it.
>>2992480
Is it consumerism or just special snowflake-ism?
Half the draw of serial commissioning seems to be getting a character drawn in as many different styles as possible.
>>2992480
That's what happens when a fandom is a fandom of itself.
Most fandoms are awful enough, but at least they are bound to something from the outside, something that they have a standing on and can influence them.
But Furry was almost from the beginning self-contained. A fandom of fandomism. The worst combination.
>>2992480
>>2992793
Actually it's not just pure consumerism alone.
Since I'm an artist and my intention is to sell tons of art, I've been giving the subject a lot of thought myself.
What makes furries consume so much?
I've also been watching tons of people's holiday vlogs from Disneyland and other places lately.
Why? Because people's behavior in them is very fascinating.
Then one day I realized what this stuff was about.
These people build their whole identities around consuming Disney related stuff and they do it all the damn time.
Like constantly, their very existence is based on consuming that shit on a monthly basis.
>We're THE Disney family, we visit this park 200 times a year! Now look what I bought.
>We're going to buy more shit next month! Now watch more of our videos!
So it's identity building, not just pure consumerism.
It's the same thing as it's with furries, but furries have even stronger identity building needs than these people.
And instead of building their identities by consuming the products of some company, furries build their identities by buying art of their characters.
Furies pretty much live and experience their entire online presence through the art they receive.
Their characters live through it and there's really nothing else in their lives they want to spend their money on.
Because they might not even have lives outside this furry fandom thing to begin with.
Online presence is their very existence.
Think of it as Habbo Hotel on steroids.
As in if there was nothing else in persons life, except that damn avatar and they had to show the whole world what they're like through buying stuff into their room.
No stuff in that room? You're not very interesting and no one will come to visit.
They'd end up spending a lot of time and money decorating that room.
>>2992793
>>2993173
Everyone builds identities through consumption to some degree.
I mean like the whole "pepsi generation" thing, it was basically an attempt to encourage people to build their youthful identity on drinking pepsi, or apple trying to portray itself as alternative and cool leading to everyone owning an iPhone - even if they don't always consciously think about it.
The distinction in the fandom is that they're building it off small-time artists instead of big companies, which leads to circlejerks, ego issues, drama, etc, as well as a general culture of "why make my own shitty art when i can pay someone for a YCH?" [and some offshoots like people rarely worldbuilding or doing anything interesting between "this fox is me he's shy but outgoing and cool and he has dicks in his ass."]
Lest you think I'm being elitist, my identity building [which is often semi-conscious but i have poor impulse control] swings between pointless spending on junk I'll use once and then throw on a shelf, and crises when I realize I have no identity at all. That's what happens when you're anonymous for too long.
>>2990682
at least it has a blacklist for keywords and artists.
>>2993173
Having furry be the be-all, end-all of your existence sounds... shallow.
>>2993663
I think part of the problem is "doing stuff with character" comes into conflict with "get amusing things drawn of character" if the character's character wouldn't allow it. Hence the parade of shallow fetish-enabling/fulfilling characters.
At least the fandom produces some decent draws.
I guess it's time to migrate to tumblr... again
>>2994597
pls no
tumblr is awful for galleries
the only place worse is twitter
>>2994736
Yeah but $$$
>>2991928
>DeviantArt changed more from 2010-2016 than in 2004-2010
I hate, hate, hate Mobile sites.
At least the dead & gay Something Awful forums are still old as shit.
>>2994736
tumblr is awful for everything.
>>2998425
Expect for discussing how privileged and evil white men are
>>2991066
Oh fuck I still remember the thread that was in.
>>2999526
It's abysmal for discussion. Absolutely bottom of the barrel. It's a step below throwing a message in a bottle into the sea.
The only thing it has going for it is that there are a lot of people there, in spite of it apparently being created as an experiment in anti-usability.
>made a Weasyl to dick around with while FA shits itself
>its even MORE dead compared to FA
Time to make a furry Instagram or something to keep me busy
>>2999956
>apparently being created as an experiment in anti-usability
I would like to know more.
>>3000650
It was just a "this is the only logical explanation for why it's so bad" joke. There has been to my knowledge no evidence leaked that it's the case.
>>3001180
After the counter-intuitive dickery of Twitter and Flickr, the idea of someone intentionally making a website as obnixious to use as possible seems rather plausible.
>>3000244
Webm can have transparency, both VP8 and 9 have options for it. Web browsers just need to add proper support for it. Only Chrome has an experimental option to enable it but it's rough and nasty.
It'll get there though, given time.
Webm is a forced gimmick format. Prove me wrong.
>>2991066
Was there ever a /furry/ boar on 4chan? Because I vaguely remember there is but not so sure.
>>3002194
yeah
created april first, 2006 or so
april third, anyone who posted there got perma-banned
>year 1984+32
>forgot i had a furaffinity
>go back
>account information unavailable
>i hope they got my exes weird shitty art
>and all my weird herm porn i favorited
>no ragrets
Im not too worried. Ill just use my fur collection as online currency like pokemon.
>>3002233
No we werent.
good riddance
>>2989360
Oh come on, SHA-1 isn't -that- weak. It will at the very least take months to crack, and cost well over 100,000 dollars even assuming that everything is in one single file (multiple files make it exponentially worse).
>>3003162
It doesn't matter how strong the encryption is if the hash is unsalted. Look up rainbow tables.
>>3003213
Oh, and dictionary attacks, I guess.
Either way, I guarantee you there are giant tables of precomputed SHA hashes floating around on the internet.
>>3001903
Webm is a good video format. The idea that it's going to replace GIF is a gimmick.
APNG is a better replacement for GIF and is still an image format.
>>3003529
The fact that numerous places still use it (and is still seen as valid for the next couple years) and haven't had things cracked suggests that there are in fact not "giant tables of precomputed hashes" - it's slow and expensive currently. Very slow and very expensive.
As to a dictionary attack, well that is a problem that no encryption or security can solve really if they use a easily guessed passphrase or seed.
>>3005422
APNG is dead. Firefox and Safari are the only browsers that still support the format.
FA won't die until IMVU pulls the plug, and that won't happen unless FA becomes a bigger liability than it's worth.
People using FA as a "traffic hub" to drive watchers/viewers to better sites might help, but until more people abandon FA, it will lurch along like a zombie.
>>3006978
This. I hate FA but it'd be career suicide for me to abandon it
Which furry site other than e621 supports video formats though
Will FA ever get a multi-upload tool?
>>3006852
They still use it because they salt their hashes. If you salt it, then you'll have decent encryption that isn't vulnerable to those attacks.
>that there are in fact not "giant tables of precomputed hashes"
A single google search gives dozens of them
http://project-rainbowcrack.com/table.htm
Yeah, it's expensive to compute the hashes, but people have the time and botnets to do it. And once you've computed them, you just save them in a table and anyone can use it very cheaply.
It's official, FA is the Rasputin of websites.
You can log back in now, after sending changing your password.
Hope you didn't sign up with an ages old email you don't remember!
>people defending fa in journals now
Look at that, it's back up.
>>3015910
I bet that many accounts are going to be lost because of those old emails, or people having used temp emails for account creation.
Can't wait to see the shitstorm that ensues.
>>3016874
At least they made a forced reset. I was wondering what would happen to all those abandoned accounts artists leave behind. Cause you know, You can DELETE them.
>>3016918
*can't
>>3015910
>Hope you didn't sign up with an ages old email you don't remember!
That's me.
>>3015910
I remember the email, but not the password to either it or the account anyways.
Not like I ever did anything on the account to look up porn, I'll just make a new one.
>>3015910
I used a throwaway email account that I deleted about 4 years ago. Who's gonna remember that shit? And then I got tired of FA only to find out you can't even delete your account. Why the heck is FA so popular?
>>3017545
Same here, however I've got no reason to reactivate my account. It's been inactive for years and only used to watch a handful of artists, most of which have either moved on or just disappeared.
I'm having trouble gathering enough fucks to give to send them a support email.
>>3015910
>signed in with an e-mail i remember
>it's fucking yahoo mail
>it wants me to answer my security questions
>i gave bullshit answers
FUCK
>>3017992
it's the most established community by far and has the most niche porn. seriously, there's shit you can find on there that only pops up once in weasyl's entire database.
>>3018499
That's so sad. I hope everyone makes a mass migration to Weasyl or Inkbunny. But that probably won't happen.
It won't happen because furries are kinda just pathetic and clingy and needy.
>>3018571
The only way to kill FA is to ban porn. It's what moved people from DA to SheezyArt and from Sheezy to FA.
>>3018610
>banning porn on FA
So I guess FA will live forever.
>>3018571
think is is that every option out there is still fucked (though admittedly less than FA.) Weasyl is trying to be DA2.0, FurryNetwork is being run by a crazy person who actually practices bestiality, pixiv just isn't very good and is largely japanese, and iirc there's been shit with how both sofurry and inkbunny have been run too. the whole situation is shitty.
>>3018657
>think is
thanks autocorrect, *the thing is
>>3018634
Or at least until it completely collapses under admin incompetence like Furnation did.
>>3018797
yet another "FA killer" that started up about a year ago, a mix of art gallery and social network. I only heard this secondhand yesterday, but apparently the guy who runs it also owns a website that sells reptile bestiality clips.
Doesn't make much of a difference, the entire thing was a shitty instagram ripoff coded entirely in javascript with the worst aspects of "made for mobile" design.
>>3018853
>reptile bestiality clips.
does that include sneks
>>3019091
I wouldn't know, I just heard lizard/reptile
Is also say that it's probably not the most ethically sound thing to go and support a bestiality clipsite, but if you're seriously asking you probably don't mind that
>>3018657
>FurryNetwork is being run by a crazy person who actually practices bestiality
Don't forget the absolutely hellish """modern""" design
>>3015910
That just happened to me...well guess it is time to get good and post more shit on Dumblr
>>3019413
What's your tumblr anon? Might give you a follow.
more people lost access to their accounts because of the half assed password reset than the hack itself lol
>Mfw FA is already losing users because of this.
I predict a sharp rise in Tumblr and Weasyl activity in the near future.
If you already have a good enough thing going on through tumblr, losing your main account on FA probably doesn't mean that much, many artists most likely aren't going back.
Not to mention I can't really see people going and re-uploading 400+ images they've uploaded over the years.
The moment Neer realizes this, he's going to go the extra mile and starts giving the bigger users their accounts back, just if they happen to ask.
Might even go to their tumblrs or other art sites and message them if they want to come back.
He needs the traffic and this is a major loss to him.
reading the comments, apparently the password reset system itself can fail at random, gg FAggots
>>3020043
>tumblr
please not
>weasyl
last time I checked it needed invites, but that was years ago
>>3020273
it stopped needing invites years ago
These comments are great.
So many lost accounts because of old emails and the ride is just starting.
>>3019413
>guess it is time to get good and post more shit on Dumblr
Please, let's not get desperate, there are not terrible art dump sites like Tumblr to use
>>3020479
the worst part? remaking the watch list
>>3020524
A portfolio on WordPress perhaps?
When can notifications be nuked again?
I've got these ones that are stuck from before the site went down, and it's kind of annoying.
>>3021064
Back to the days when everyone had Geocities sites and were part of a webring.
>>2990682
>>2991621
Don't tell me you wouldn't want to see a cute skunk cub spreading her virgin pussy and showing you her hymen. Don't lie and say you wouldn't bottom her out with her first human dicking. To feel her contractions, hear her moans, feel her depths push against you with every thrust, her cervix gently kissing your glans, the warmth of her panting breaths on your chest as you simultaneously reach climax and fill her tiny womb on her most fertile day.
>>3021249
>cub
Stopped reading there
>>3021249
Is this some kind of a new pasta?
Because the same shit was posted on /furry/
>>3021455
No, just part of the Cub Internet Defense Force.
>people still use FA
Use Weasyl or Pixiv for art. Hell, even Tumblr is a better option. And if you frequented Furaffinity's forums, just go to Phoenix.Corvidae.
No reason to use FA while its being run by Dragoneer.
>>3022577
>Pixiv
lol Japanese censor laws
>Weasyl
Still mostly used by literal who's
>Tumblr
Good for blogging, awful for actual picture galleries. Retarded image size restrictions that can not be bypassed unlike the FA ones
Same as Tumblr, apart the sizes
>Inkbunny
Dumb "NO HUMANS EVER" rule
Every site has it's issues
>>2975857
Yeah, honestly, the only reason I'm still using FA is because everyone else uses it. I fucking hate the 2003 site design that lacks basic features every other art site has, lack of filtering, and taking 2-3 weeks to get a response from moderators about anything
We've been promised a "UI overhaul" so many times since 2007 and it has yet to happen
seriously fuck the people who run the site
The only good thing to come out of Furaffinity and it's operators was Neer cuck porn.
>>3022722
>no humans ever
I've seen people post the image with the sensitive aspects of the human censored and linked too offsite. Most furries I know don't even do human x furries or human art, so inkbunny's probably the best option
>>3022793
There is (was) a beta UI available which you can switch on in your account prefs. It updates the 2003 design to a 2005 design.
>>3022875
Oh yeah, that thing. I didn't use it because FilterAffinity and FurAffinity Filter aren't compatible with it.
>mfw the site is so shit that users have to create external apps to add basic functionality to it
>>3022722
What about https://beta.furrynetwork.com/
>>3023210
It basically looks and feels like Furry Twitter.
>>3022793
You forgot the worst part: basically 100% of the staff is extremely untrustworthy power tripping cucks. That last part is like literal half the time too.
>>3016542
All I got was a variety of "fuck FA, here's where you can find me now"s, with a few "I want to leave, but I don't know where to"s in my feed.
The worst part is Neer and IMVU will have learned absolutely nothing from this. Nothing will change for the better, no usability enhancements, no security improvements, no modernization into a usable 2016 website that has features anywhere NEAR comprible to Inkbunny (who are doing an amazing dev job, quickly too).
Nothing will happen because furries are fucking retarded and too scared of the cubs on Inkbunny (the no human rule is gay, I'll give you that).
>>3020524
this
especially if it's shameless, I fugging love his stuff and would selfishly prefer him not to fall into my list of "artists I don't keep up with anymore because I'm lazy and tumblr is ass"
>>3023210
guy who runs it is supposedly insane and runs a bestiality clipsite
so arguably the worst option of all
>>3024065
>runs a bestiality clipsite
I like how you say this as if /trash/ does not regularly have beast threads, like the one up now
What's a good site for furry fanfiction that isn't FA? Asking for a friend.
>>3023210
>that """responsive""" design
>infinite scrolling
think i'm going to be sick
>>3022940
>the site is so shit that users have to create external apps to add basic functionality to it
4chan X.
>>3022793
You don't need a UI overall. Lack of basic things like filters and user tagging, sure, but the gallery-style UI is fine as it is.
The end result of a UI redesign will be some modern web 3.0 cancer that barely works half the time. Of all FA's problems, the UI is the least of their worries.
So the email address I signed up for with FA like ten years ago is dead. I sent FA an email about it since as of right now I can't get a new password. What are the chances they can help me out? I let them know what my dead email was. My fault for not thinking to update it, but would be nice to get back into my account.
>>3024942
It's dead jim
You're gonna have to jump ship to another website or make another account
>>3025105
>disposable mails are still not allowed for registering
>It doesn't remember my email address even though I changed it to my current one ages ago
WAKE ME UP
>>3024942
If this was any other site, I'd say there's no way in hell you can get into one of these old accounts by just asking the staff to let you in, via a newly created account.
But since this is the ever incompetent FA and Neer is deseprate as fuck for any traffic he can get his claws on, there's a chance that they're going to let you in.
He sure as hell doesn't want to lose any big names over this.
I wonder how many acount thefts this shit will result in.
>Oh you got locked out of your old account Mr..Jay Naylor was it?
>Well don't you worry, we'll give you the password reset link to that account right away!
>>3024473
well yeah, but I think it's a bit different in that he actually makes the videos instead of just sharing them
Why does everyone hate fa again?
>>3026735
incompetent administration
probably fraudulent donation drives
shitty shitty code
broken features
no user tagging system [i.e. only artist gets to tag]
>>3026773
Ah, That sucks then. No alt sites though that artists actually use
>>3022828
Only one picture though? Lame
>>3026887
I know, I'd love to have seen her in a pregnant gangbang and him walking in to find out none of his kids were his like in Otome Dori.
FA is a horrible site, but everyone uses it so it continues to be popular. Get a bunch of top-tier artists to stop using it (unlikely, maybe try and convince them about the insecurity and the possible impact of it on their career) and an exodus might occur.
I just use it to follow people, comment and extremely occasionally post (low quality) blue cat butt. I'll sit here with popcorn when shit goes down. Furry drama.
>>3018472
The only worse thing I remember:
>aus board of studies website
>password must be 6 digit PIN
>took a screencap but cant find it
>try "Forgot Password"
>asks for my security QUESTION
I forgot my password, I'm not going to remember which fucking question I picked.
>eventually find password screencap on phone and log in
>question was "First concert you ever went to"
>answer was ">implying"
I was a total fag when I created that account
>>3026773
User tagging systems are garbage. Look at e621. Had few of my artist friends battle administration over the tags on the pics. And the administration INSISTED viewers knew more about the picture than the person that drew it.
>>3027386
tag what you see isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than
[picture of a fox with pink glasses sucking off a blue wolf]
title: my drawing
description: haha i drew this drinking coffee
tags: lol, her, glasses, are, pink
>>3027386
>tfw I can never find good cuntboy art b/c everybody always tags it female
I hate e621, just let me fap
>>3027536
>cuntboy
Why is this suddenly so popular?
Every other pussy gape picture is a cuntboy now.
>>3027554
because tits are gross and vags are hot
plus all those qt trans boys are all the rage nowadays
>>3027561
I guess. I have to trick my brain and say "there is a uterus in there, it is breedable". As long as it is feminine as fuck I'd still jerk off to it but... shit seemed to explode overnight, the only ones drawing good gape with cervix now are herm taurs and cuntboys.
>>3027561
vaginas are disgusting. at best they can be overlooked.
>tfw one of your favourite pictures of a submissive character is a cuntboy, even though you'd infinitely prefer it was just a regular male.
my taste includes almost anything you could think of [including vaginas, yes, i know.] and it still gets to me.
>>3027554
non-futa sex combinations are great mate
cuntboys and bustyboys need way more love
>>3027572
Maybe you're just a regular trap man
Huh, I guess my account was recently deleted by this or something. I know I signed into it a week or two ago. Now when I try to login, no dice. No e-mail on the password reset, and site is throwing an error trying to reset the password.
Well played, FurAffinity.
>>3027652
depends on when you made it.
if it was after may 11th, yes, it was deleted by the person trying to delete the entire site
Who is Neer and why are we taking down furafinnity?
>>3027938
Account is at least 3 years old. I messaged their admin team, or whatever that support e-mail was. Guess I'll see what happens.
FA will never die because artists feel indebted to dragoneer (for no reason)
we're going to have to murder him to get a better site
So wait, we have to change our passwords again because it is so compromised? I changed that shit last week, yet it could still be stolen because the code is basically swish cheesed by the incompetent programmers and bitter backdoor code writers?
>>3028058
If you reset your password before, it was safe, but they just decided to just reset everyone's as a whole carpet thing.
>>3028058
They basically just did the blanket reset they should have done the first time they brought the site back up.
>>2994597
Well it's not like we can go to DeviantArt an Pixiv is Pixiv
Sooooo if one was considering getting into drawing (commissions) and was a filthy newfag in most things furry, which site(s) would you good aficionados recommend for profile creation? Asking for a friend
>>3028236
Still FurAffinity. It's shit, but if you want to get your work seen, put it on there, especially if you have work that can be uploaded into one of the niche-ier categories. People actually look through these and will see your work while nobody will ever see it on tumblr if you don't already have fans to reblog it for you.
test
>>3028319
Alright thanks. Apropos, what sort of niche categories do you mean? Aside from stuff that makes me squeamish (guro etc) I'm somewhat open to ideas, so do you feel there are some relatively popular niche categories being neglected? Again thanks for the insight
>>3028376
Any of the fetish categories, really. General porn goes into "All" and I imagine that it's comparatively hard to get noticed in that one.
Now the site's got malware.
GG Neer
>>3029431
Really?
>>3029431
Any proof of that?
Not that it's even remotely farfetched given what happened to the site, but empty malware claims strike me as the easiest way to try to incite panic against the site.
I've never liked sites like furaffinity most of it is just stupid drama and oc donut steels
If I want porn or image dumps I could just come here or go to e621 and if I want to talk about furfag media I could just talk about it here or any other forum and avoid all the bullshit
>>2990682
And that's why I have an IB account but no FA account.
The mere fact that they have more freedom for creative control by the artists inherently makes it better.
>>3029798
Oh, ads.
No wonder I didn't notice anything.
>>2975928
very telling that no one replied to this
remember, you can't fight something with nothing
>>3029727
i broke and got FA because eventually i exhausted e621+fchan+u eighteen chan [why is this spam filtered? it's named after a fucking submarine.]+lulz+that russian one i forget+probably more supply of porn in various things i liked.
FA has a lot of shit that isn't uploaded elsewhere. someone should make a booru with no DNP policy.
>Mandatory forced password reset for all users
>cant remember what email I used for FA
>FA support is FA support, no response from them ever
not that i had any uploads, but rip my fav list
>>3030468
And watch list too
>>3030553
watch list is public, i could just rewatch everyone, but all my favs were hidden
>>3030468
toss the FA staff an e-mail, they will try and help you out instead of blacklisting it thinking your some hacker like I've heard one or two people say. Now, I'm not defending the site or anything, I'm just saying that sending an e-mail isn't as useless as you might think. If you have other accounts listed on your FA, they might just ask you to send a message from it (In this case, my twitter was used), and bam, they will use the e-mail you sent from and then you just go through the registration process again.
>>3015910
I remember my old email address, but it got deleted due to me neglecting it for 6 years.
Sent them an email last night. Wonder how long it will take.
>>3030836
months, knowing furaffinity's support team
>>3027386
they should add a separate section for artist tags or some shit, tag what you see only lets you tag so much
>>3030826
good luck with this, been over a day since i sent an email with proof i was the account owner
gg FA!
>>3027386
>And the administration INSISTED viewers knew more about the picture than the person that drew it.
Because viewers are pretty much always better at tagging.
I don't want to search for female porn and find a bunch of cocks because the artist tagged it as female because "herp derp female trapped in a mans body just like me!"
If you cant see it, don't tag it. No one gives a fuck what the artists specific intentions are, if its not in the pic it doesnt matter.
Artists in the furry fandom have to be the whiniest creatures on earth
>>3032366
Exactly what happened with Purplekecleon
>>3027386
Yeah, but the alternative is a bunch of images which are completely untagged, or given useless tumblr-style joke tags
>>3032366
This. I trust viewers more.
>>3032366
/thread
So apparently FA is breaking laws by not securing the personal info of users well enough and could be sued over this debacle.
I wonder if she'll go through with this and actually files a complaint.
Now that would be hilarious.
>>3036946
Of course she won't. This isn't the first time personal data got leaked from FA and they keep getting away with it. If anyone was going to hit them with legal action, it would have happened a long time ago but furfags are lethargic when it comes to doing anything outside of making some empty threats on their blogs and farting out the odd DMCA notice over their shitty scribbles.
>>3032366
Why not have separate tags for Sex and Gender? [or some kind of transgender tag people can blacklist, i dunno.]
Information secondary to the picture often has something of an effect [although I was considering also the caveat that the description must also be on e621.]
>>3037145
this, people keep complaining about shitty tagging on the artist's part but if they're tagging it a certain way then that's certainly relevant information
>>3037145
>Why not have separate tags for Sex and Gender?
Because they're not seperate, tranny.
>>3038203
ebig
>>3038203
When it comes to fictional characters, they can be. :^)
>>3030250
FA can die we have the private/public TOR site backup
>>3038618
someone needs to make a decent frontend for that
also archive tags and descriptions again
>>3037145
Personally, I would just separate site tags from user tags.
site tags would be objective, controlled by the community/mods, like how most boorus are.
User tags are controlled by the user. If they want to tag a given character as identifying as an apache helicopter, they can do so, but it won't pollute the main tag corpus.
The problem would be integrating the two effectively for search/blacklist purposes.
>>3038694
how did you know I'm circumcised?
>>3024065
I've been hearing this but never got sauce. Is it legit?
>>3024014
A new FA was my second choice, leaving the last one for people to see, like when artists change accounts without the " nuke everything " part.
>>3041343
>was your second choice
so are you sticking to tumblr now or making a new FA like that?
lol
>>3044892
What am we laughing at here?
>>3044971
I gave them no proof whatsoever I was the owner of an account and was just handed it.
>>3044979
Did you get someone good?
>>3045003
Lostpaw is a fairly well known artist, so it could be a shitstorm.
>>3044892
also what the fuck is dragoneer doing at 1am? does he just send emails between faps or some shit?
>>3044892
fucking hell dragoneer
anyone know any other good accounts that are down? I think dragoneer's incompetence needs to be broadcasted further
>>3044892
Honestly, I guessed as much. I was going to ask if they even checked the emails.
>>3045217
I don't think he's dumb enough to give out a mod account, but there's only one way to find out.
Try naylor or jasonafex or some other faggot
>>3044892
>>3045063
That's the lost password link you retard.
>>3045580
hehe xd
... See, it's shit like this that makes me want to just up and delete my account and be done with the site. But apparently they can't even do that, just "permanant disable" bullshit.
does paritial updating the security code even solve the problem of the hacker having the source code for website?
>>2994736
twitter is better actually since it keeps the original image size.
>>3051091
I was more speaking in terms of usability. I remember someone finding a way to get non-resized images off of tumblr though, just can't remember what it was.
>>3051125
add :orig to the end of the image url
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiIsBECUkAA1Xzg.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiIsBECUkAA1Xzg.jpg:orig
it may not always be the best quality version available since some artists upload from phones or whatever, like the pic i linked is shit quality compared to the png version i attached here
>>2989213
This is why throwaway emails and passwords are important.
>>3053792
True, but look at FA now. people who DID use throwaway emails are now locked out of their account till they get contact from support.
You should have a main email and a "sign up for shit" email for things you know you will use for a while, and thowaways/10 minute emails for 1 time shit.
>>3053825
This is why you keep a catalog of your throwaway emails?
I get your point but it's up to you for your own account security.
>>3053969
I felt by throwaway emails you meant the 'runs out after a small amount of time and is specifically for signing up for shit", aka 10 minute emails.
If you keep track of it, it's not really throw away, so that's why I assumed that. My bad.
>>3051550
I tried appending :orig to the URL and I'm getting a page with barely parsed XML file with an "Access Denied" line.
http://67.media.tumblr.com/9fa57e6c64e2151068c0ed61fe9dca34/tumblr_o7oldxN9Ma1rckw3lo1_1280.jpg
http://67.media.tumblr.com/9fa57e6c64e2151068c0ed61fe9dca34/tumblr_o7oldxN9Ma1rckw3lo1_1280.jpg:orig
>>3054135
His links are twitter images, yours are tumblr.
>>3054205
Well that was dumb of me, well is it still possible to get un-resized images on Tumblr?
>>3054288
No. Just 1280.
It's retarded.
>>3054205
that's my fault, i thought he said twitter
as far as i know tumblr does not save the original file that is uploaded and resizes to a max of 1280x1920
>>3054331
tumblr is shit for galleries, i wish artists would post elsewhere but i get why they dont
>>3024699
4chan is still perfectly usable without 4CX
And it's not the UI overhaul itself, more the fact that they promised us one almost 10 years ago and it still hasn't happened, while in the meantime, retarded shit like "hidden favorites" and "disable userpage" get added.
>>3054638
>hidden favorites
These are retarded. I never understood this thing.
Why do people even keep their faves hidden?
Especially considering that many of the accounts that fave stuff, are totally barren of any info, avatar or art.
So it's not like people are going to make any kind of connection between your own art and the stuff you fave, if you happen to have an account like that.
Half of the point of favorites is to give the artist visibility by showing what you faved.
Kinda like reblogs on tumblr.
Having favorites hidden is on par with giving a like on tumblr, it's absolutely useless for the artist.
And if you have your faves hidden, then why are you even faving things in the first place and not just saving those pics on your computer?
If the intention is to show support to the artist by giving them faves, it's really no benefit to the artist to see a fave conducted by some bot tier account, where nothing is visible for anyone.
