ATTENTION TO ALL /POL/ EXPATS HERE ON /TRASH/- if there even are any.
As many of you may know, we have been under siege by newfags and redditors ever since the US election cylce began heating up around mid-to-late September, and now we are flush with off-topic threads, "redpill me on X" threads, and, of course, the "/POL/ BTFO / Well /pol/? / It really makes you think... / X is right you know / Hmmm.." bait threads.
One of the main faucets of all these shitters is most likely the Trump General, which is a magnet for cancer and shitposting- a containment for redditry and newfaggotry.
We also need to cut down on constant shitposting and memery (e.g. POO in LOO, Angloposting, post chains in general) a good example of which would be in places such as, or course, Trump Generals. We don't want this cancer to spread to the rest of /pol/- we don't want to become /tv/ 2.0.
Some basic steps to lessening the constant cancer that everyone should employ:
>-Not posting in bait/off-topic threads
>-Reporting all off-topic/bait threads
>-Report all /b/-tier/off-topic posts
>-Not responding to "redpill me/tell me/teach me" threads with anything more than "lurk more" whilst using sage to not bump thread
Why here on /trash/? If this thread were on /pol/, it would be nuked by whiny newfags spamming and it's also easier to discuss things on slower board. /trash/ fit fairly well since it plays the roll of an off-topic board- a "secret" /b/ of sorts.
General discussion of making /pol/ great again below.
Will /pol/ ever recover past GE shitposting?
2012 brought on a lot of terrible threads, especially on the nights Romney lost.
Posting examples of off-topic threads on /pol/ as of recent.
>>2604145
It may or may not, but it is possible to lessen shitposting by doing your part reporting threads and posts clouding up the rest of discussion.
Mods on /pol/ are absolutely shit, though.
>>2604214
Here's a good example of baitposting.
The OP posts a video/image/link, says something along to lines of "What does /pol/ think of this?", then usually leaves and watches discussion
The problem with this is it encourages spam of threads with the exact same subject over the course of a day instead of neat, general-like threads, and it treats /pol/ like a reaction experiment where they just post the thread to see how the "community" of /pol/ would react, rather than for the actual discussion.
Such threads should be prosecuted, but just aren't for whatever reason.
Woah Woah, a surface board asking help from /trash/. What a surprise, must be some dark times
>>2604325
Here's another example of how to not make a thread.
Threads aren't supposed to be treated as "super-comments" with posts in it acting as replies to said comment.
Shit like this, again, clouds up the catalog.
>>2604407
It's beginning to go the way of /tv/ and /v/. More and more newfags flooding in and overly saturating a meme the second it comes into existence. Just using /trash/ as a platform for discussion of it.
Hopefully we can prevent another board falling to normalfags.
>>2604442
Another example of a /b/-tier thread currently on /pol/
>>2604504
Another "ask /pol/" thread.
What do you expect, install that ceiling fan OP because summer is here.
>>2603964
There is nothing wrong with Reddit.
>>2604504
Another type of bait thread. This one hinges on the "X isn't white" trope that's oh so popular. It's an old kind of bait thread, but it's still bait nonetheless.
>>2604562
This has been going on since late September and has only increased over the past several months. Plus the "Summer" meme is essentially a myth nowadays, since kids today can now post from pretty much anywhere, anytime with mobile phones.
>>2604653
A different breed of bait thread. This one is to incite "oh-so hilarious quirky 4chan" replies, usually memes (in this thread's case, Dindu Nuffin, WE WUZ, etc.).
These types of bait threads are done by /r/4chan crossposters trying to manufacture some of the "magic" they see on their cancerous subreddit or by newfags doubly trying to get some of that "4chan magic" themselves.
>>2604653
Yet another "ask /pol/" thread.
>>2604815
Classic "BTFO" thread.
>>2604864
Another
>>2604888
/b/-tier thread based on forced memes.
Any rare- thread is of such.
>>2604929
You get the idea.
>>2604763
Wasn't Ben celebrated by /pol/ before this election though?
>>2604957
No one gives a shit here
>>>/qa/
>>2604999
A /b/-tier YLYL-type thread.
>>2604997
I'm merely pointing out spam from newfags. Sure, a little meme here and there is fine, but this is just getting out of hand and adds nothing.
Pus you have the gaggle of "/pol/ is satire" newfags posting the same tired old memes over and over.
>>2605016
This isn't for /trash/, this is merely a general located here on /trash/.
>/qa/
Not a chance, full of anti-/pol/ redditors.
>>2604196
>Mods on /pol/ are absolutely shit, though.
You get what you pay for, or rather /pol/ gets the mods it deserves.
mummy
>>2605441
>newfags fuck shit up spamming memes everywhere, spilling outside of /pol/
>"durr /pol/ deserves shitty mods that allow this to happen"
lad what
>>2605554
/pol/ has always been shit, the mods have never given a shit about /pol/, /pol/ is a containment board. It's fucking bad on purpose.
>not browsing 8cнan
the best thing to do is to ignore them, if you post in the threads you are part of the problem
also /pol/ isn't meant for right wing discussion only, it's for all politics, it's just that most people there are right wing/natsoc/whatever
>>2605613
>/pol/ has always been shit
Literally the excuse of any outsider when a board turns to shit. To claim "it's always been shit".
I've been on /pol/ long enough to know that it's never had this amount of off-topic and shit threads.
And you should be worried as well, since newfags are taking cancerous /pol/ memes outside of /pol/ and spreading them everywhere. You hate cuckpost spam of recent, right? This is where it's coming from.
>>2605639
>abandoned redditchan
>>2605727
Already stated some methods to lessen spam in the OP.
Never claimed /pol/ was exclusively right-wing, either.
So what's your solution? /pol/ cannot be cured without mods making amends. There are too many juveniles. Either make a new /pol/ outside or wait for hiro's attention. Because mods are too scared to make any change by themselves
>>2605787
Not him, but why not just wait until the GE is over? It'll make /pol/ just like it was before.
>>2605798
Flags will still be there. /v/ will still be there. edgy teens will still be there
anyway, what are you guy's thoughts on mummy?
>>2605838
Cancer. Report at all costs
>>2605787
I don't think any changes are needed. The rules of /pol/ just need to be enforced better, meaning better moderation.
>>2605836
It wouldn't. Without thte GE to meme around, /pol/ would go back to normal /pol/ shit. /v/ and reddit would get tired and they would go back to /b/. There, problem solved.
>>2605911
Or /pol/ could go the way of /tv/ and never recover and become a shitposting haven for memes. either way, reporting shit is a must right now.
˙͜ >˙
>>2605944
It's probably because it encourages nation based memes to go around, like australian shitposting and poo in loo, making people disregard whatever a poster has said for a quick little meme.
>>2605906
This, I did notice that /pol/ became increasingly popular when the republican nomination came to the table. I was skeptical about the off-topicness of threads, but I assumed that was because /pol/ is pretty much a containment board too.
My advice OP is keep making these threads calling out the mods and to an hiro. They have done their job with /a/ and /mlp/ while an hiro was here so the same can happen to /pol/
>>2605944
Does not go with the spirit of 4chan. Brings focus on the identity of the poster rether than content of the post
>>2604442
>Hopefully we can prevent another board falling to normalfags.
Same. I've been making a point of making my posts overtly racist and making sure to litter them with racial slurs. I do it in the hopes it keeps the more sensitive and liberal minded normalfags from coming back to /pol/. I'm find with normie right wingers, but the board cannot fall to leftism, which is what the majority of the normies are. Never has there been a place where I can freely express my right wing opinions without being silenced.
>>2605869
there is literally nothing wrong with mummy
stop shilling ffs
>>2606002
Only if they post stupid things. I haven't been affected for my country that much.
>>2605988
Both are instances of being /b/ tier threads by /pol/'s rules ala the sticky, so both should probably be reported
>>2605727
Any concession you give to leftists leads them to want to try to censor the board. There are already mods from their side that have infiltrated. They won't outright delete right wing opinions just yet, but they would let the slide threads go on without consequence.
>>2605869
It's /trash/ so the autistic Brit can pretty much post anything on here. Just ignore him and he'll go away.
>>2606093
why are you so nasty about mummy?
she did not do anything to you :|
>>2606036
>Only if they post stupid things.
>if
>>2606125
Some people post relevant content. There's a meme about my country that's used as much as HUE for brazilians, but it's never been used against me. That's why I'm saying that.
Anime furry shit needs to be banned. You'll run half of the cancer off the board.
>>2605944
better question is "why are they necessary?"
>>2606202
Probably to make discussion somehow more accurate between anons of different countries so you wouldn't have some guy claiming to be from the US when he's not? Or maybe just to fuck with /pol/
What do you guys think of this?
>>>/pol/72650919
>>2604929
This is /pol/ tier though. Trigglypuff is an example for the delusion of women/sjws.
>>2606291
for the record, it's minion spam
>>2605639
8ch is less cucked IMO. less fun though also. I left for 4chan a few months before moot sold this site. I just recently started browsing 4/pol/ a few days ago and found all the banter and even the shitposting pretty entertaining. I started to think that 4/pol/ was better than 8/pol/ until I seen all the cucks who aren't even redpilled. I mean, half of the fucking board believes the Jewish lie about WWll. And the other half worship degenerate fags like Milo and identify as "alt-right".
>>2606402
>he fell for the alt-right meme
Those supposed two halves of /pol/ you mentioned are the newfags.
>>2606402
>I mean, half of the fucking board believes the Jewish lie about WWll.
Because that's not a /pol/ topic anyway.
>>2606268
>>2606240
But it barely serves that purpose. Most of the time it's just off-topic shitposting. /pol/ manged without flags before. It can manage now. Just look at /his/ for example. It was cesspool of shitposts when there were flags. I don't know their political alignment but their discussion seemed civil when I visited that place post flag removal. If someone wants to identify their national identity they can state it in their post. Honestly even forced tripfaggotry would be relatively better than forced flag
>>2606495
>implying
>>2606495
How are non-supernatural conspiracy theories not /pol/? Especially ones that affect international politics?
>>2606528
/his/ is different from /pol/, I think. You don't need to be a resident of a country to discuss its history.
>>2606602
/x/ doesn't want it. You want to force something in a board that doesn't want it?
>>2606602
Right you are I forgot about that.
This seems an annoying rule in that if you talk about politics you will invariably talk about the hidden motive for politicians' and leaders' actions and speech, unless you take everything they say at face value, which is naive. This is already verging on a 'conspiracy theory'. I'm not sure there's much of a tangible difference between saying 'X politician is in the pocket of X special interest group, though he would never admit it' and a conspiracy theory, and it's very hard to discuss politics without speculating as to true motives given politicians are so consistently dishonest.
>it's another '/pol/ tries throwing around power it doesn't have' episode
You fucks and your Sampson option backfired so hard, /mlp/ overran your board. Your board's been shit even before moot left.
>>2606546
Point is flags attract teenagers regardless of the topic
>>2603964
your shit-hole of a board has always been full of bait threads made by & for retards... so what else is new?
>>2603964
Even though 4chan was originally an anime board, it is being spammed way too much on /pol/.
The post will have just an anime picture and nothing relative to the threads discussion.
We need to report these posts as well as any shill post/thread.
/pol/ has always been a containment board for people who are neither wanted nor tolerated elsewhere.
>>2607634
What does that have to do with anything.
>muh containment board
Every board is containment board.
>>2607781
>tayposting
Also, /pol/ is the containment board for things that don't quite belong in the other boards but that don't belong into /b/ either.
>>2607835
Everything belongs into /b/ or /r9k/
>>2607581
>This mad at reactionary pics
>>2607835
>posting an accurate reaction pic
Luckily /b/ is for any content.
/fit/ for fitness
/k/ for weapons
/soc/ for attention whores
/mlp/ for horse fuckers
Need i go on?
ITT: defeatists trying to poorly reason why /pol/ doesn't need enforced moderation
>m-muh [board] was always sh-shit! S-stop trying to improve it!
>>2607982
Its not the pic itself, its the pic/post with no relevance to anything in the thread.
>anime pic is posted with no quality
>autists want sauce or reply with other anime pics
>original anime posters post count is still 1
>>2608147
Show me one example where that happened.
>>2604562
its fucking april. cmon. summer already?
>>2608188
m8, I come from there (no , I'm not DESIGNATED) and, besides the early stages of the general, I've never seen sauceposting, just your old-fashioned shitposting.
>>2608200
/pol/ doesn't need moderation.
It needs to be deleted and regular posters need to be perma'd.
>>2608254
Then you don't pay enough attention.
Just a few threads ago somebody asked for sauce on Momji and received.
>>2608159
Ill try to get an example but its all over.
>>2608188
I used to be immune to it, but ive seen it happening a lot more within the past few months.
That is true though, its not too bad as long as the thread stays on topic.
>>2608254
What does you not being "DESIGNATED" have to do with anything?
Go lurk a few threads and youll find it, especially every trump general.
First reply is usually within seconds, will be an awwoo poster, and that user will have only 1 post until 404
>>2608295
>unrealistic redditor wetdream
I know this is /trash/, but come on now.
>>2608368
>i don't like post!
>i'll show them by calling them a redditor and showing them that I'm hiding their post
that's awfully leftist of you, trying to drown something you don't like
>>2608363
We already discussed it and it seems that the american that has that kind of post with all-caps letters is a bot. It also changes images every thread. If it's not an american, then it's just a normal poster.
>>2608467
This. Even if it triggers your autism, this is 4chan of all places. If you want a hugbox, go search other places
>muh board culture
>>2608420
>Pic semi related.
It did start there, but its been spreading. I dont even lurk trump generals anymore and i still see it.
>>2608363
The Awoo poster is whatever, I almost like it being there.
>>2608420
People stopped linking previous threads and I'm not going to the archive to find the specific post.
>If it's true, then I take my statement back a little. You see sauceposting every now and then
So you admit you know it happens then?
>>2608467
Not drowning you out and I read your post in whole. It's just that it's adding absolutely nothing to the conversation. It's just a quick "le ebil /pol/ needs to be deleted" quip like the garbage that you constantly see on /qa/.
>ha ha, /pol/ is shit? well fuck you, muh /pol/ stormweenie boogeyman. delete /pol/
You and I both know that isn't going to happen.
Nothing's stopping you from posting here, though.
>>2608524
Seems like they do it because every now and then a shill tries to take it just to say "HAHA FIRST POST DRUMF BTFO". It's kinda like a victory against the shills.
My take on the matter is that as long as it's not people spamming truly unrelated things (like minionposter) or massively asking for sauce (for Christ's sake, there's a board for that), it's not an issue worth considering.
>>2608594
If you see something that you don't like, just report it and don't bitch about it. Complaining about shitposting is also shitposting. If mods think that is worthy of being deleted, they'll delete it.
OP, here
Finally returned to see that this thread bloomed a bit. Glad to see I'm not alone in wanting to stop the constant shitposting
>>2608826
Just report it.
>>2608944
Did you even read the OP?
>>2608956
Yes, and I stand by my statement. Only thing you can do is to report. Wanna bitch about it? Surprise, your post belongs in /trash/! At least you had the decency to start it in the trash o not interrupt the board.
>>2609022
What would I be interrupting? Constant shitposting ala newfags?
No shit sherlock, this thread is about reporting off-topic and bait threads keeping /pol/ clean, the problem is far too many don't, which is also why this thread exists.
>>2609099
They just don't care. Also, this thread is a dubsmine.
>>2603964
>we have been under siege by newfags and redditors ever since the US election cylce began heating up around mid-to-late September
Huh
That explains why it's been so shit since september
That's why ironic shitposting should be shunned, it actually atracts newfags and feel them welcomed
>>2606024
I never go on /pol/ and frankly, never will. But I just have to say that your idea is the dumbest possible course of action.
Leftists feed off of confrontation, and if they don't find it, they will start it.
I'm not sure what to suggest in order to actually make an improvement, but the best advice I can give you is to make heavy use of board-specific jargon.
I frequent /k/, and you can easily tell when a Californian leftist posts, they are absolutely clueless about what they reply to.
Use that to your advantage, as if a Leftist can't get attention/doesn't understand the conversation, they will just give up and try something else.
>>2609163
something something mark twain and the company of idiots
>being anti trump on 4chan
maybe the cancer is you OP, why would you even bring that up if you aren't a sandroid
>>2609498
Not anti-Trump, just anti-shitpost, which the Trump Generals are full of.
>>2606024
Just ignore and report, lad. Simple. You're just feeding them.
>>2608509
reminder only reddit and newfags complain about anime on 4chan
>>2603964
>muh sekrit club
/pol/ exists solely to redpill via memetics.
Content from r/thedonald is getting onto Reddit's frontpage. The liberal bullshit is getting slowly purged and Reddit is no longer a safe space.
>>2609707
Is this real? Permaban for complaining about anime?
>>2609825
feeling nervous, redditor?
If you don't mind, OP, I reposted this on /pol/ because it just makes much more sense there:
>>>/pol/72666569
>>2609168
I've been away from this thread a few hours but I agree, you have a point. Guess I'll have to break out my obscure /pol/ memes and phrases.
>>2609533
It's also full of stateposting but that's generally tolerable. Trump Generals are a good place to get Trump-related content and ammo to use against the opposition, you just have to sift through the 90% of posts that are shitposting or simply animeposting/hatposting. Not that I have anything against it, I actaully enjoy anime myself but it gets annoying when they post their pictures and add nothing of value and their argument for relevancy is "hurr durr my anime character has a maga hat shopped on it, so it's relevant." I don't complain on there though and I just let them be, it's generally the redditors that complain loudly and they succeed in their objective of getting the animeposters to furiously spam the threads closer to archive. And the deliberate shills and the trolls pretending to be shills just drag the quality of the thread. The most cancerous posts are probably the pics with the arrow and "the person below is_____" or the "you have been visited by x, posty y and z will/will not happen" and the worst are the roll images. And regarding repeating digits a regular /pol/ack might take notice of quads, quints, and above, but it's obviously the migrants from /b/ that obsess over doubles and triples.
>>2609707
>>2609825
I've seen people get permabanned for even less, if you knew your chan history people have been banned for posting gifs of spilling chocolate milk or simply asking the mod to ban them. Pretty much everyone that posts here regularly has banned at least once, and you're bound to be hit with permabans about once a year if you're the average non-retarded person just unfortunate enough to get caught up in a group ban if a mod feels like banning everyone that posted in a single thread.
>>2610406
and it's dead, fucking wew, jannies deleted it
>>2610406
snagged this beauty before it was deleted by the way
>>"/POL/ BTFO / Well /pol/?
>THOSE ARE CALLED JOKES!
>this was always an anarchic clusterfuck
>memes have to be free range and organic.
newfags are fucking insufferable
>>2611173
Got this some time ago for reporting a /pol/ btfo thread
>>2611198
Yeah, it's as I expected, I was also warned for reporting slide and shitposting threads. I'm not sure what could be done about it, should we try to get a hold of Hiro and tell him to throw out these rogue /pol/ janitors and admins? I have half a mind of actually bothering to apply for janitor next time applications are open and gathering IP logs or some identification of the rogue janitors, and then anonymously leaking the list on a pastebin or something.
>>2611198
It'd be because you clicked 'illegal content'
I click that once on some faggot's DUDE WEED BROWNIES LOL thread and got the same shit
Apparently it's literally just for reporting CP and school shooters and shit.
>>2612826
didn't click illegal-content, lad. I always differentiate the two
>>2612826
The benefit of 'illegal content' is jannies don't have to look at the post for deleting it. I've gotten that SEA comics making dude's posts deleted lots of time with that
So even if few people check "Illegal content" post is guaranteed to be deleted
>>2603964
>furfags are now the saviours of /pol/
Oh irony of ironies.
Does this mean we're about to see an influx of Nazi fur art? Because I'm all for that, really.
/pol/ has a three main problems, funposters, legitimate paid shills (who are mostly there to disrupt Trumps meme magic), and finally well meaning idiots who don't understand the first two and will always engage them
>>2608215
I blame global warming
>>2610301
www.reddit.com/r/anime
>le reddit hate anime/one person boogeymen
Honestly this is what happens every fucking time a board gets slightly popular. It's a process you can't avoid because eventually we get outnumbered by people who come for memes.
Really sad, the only fix would be proper /pol/ moderation but that is pretty much impossible too.
I find solace in thinking that the newfags who come get redpilled eventually but I don't even know if that is true.
>>2603964
>>-Not responding to "redpill me/tell me/teach me" threads with anything more than "lurk more" whilst using sage to not bump thread
Let's have political discussions on /trash/ to avoid /pol/
