Tulpa Thread
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>What are tulpas?
A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you.
More info: http://www.tulpa.info/faq/
>What guides do you recommend?
Check these out:
https://community.tulpa.info/thread-new-great-big-list-of-guides
Ask questions and get answers, or discuss tulpas in general
How often do you masturbate while your tulpa watches?
No need to lie, we're all anonymous here.
>>2411749
It was pretty frequently, but it has since died off.
I think this is better known as autism
>>2411763
No, that's a completely different thing. First someone compares this to bipolar, now autism. It's like you people don't know how to google this shit.
>>2411763
Don't forget schizophrenia. That's actually the most popular comparison.
>>2411804
You're mistaken: Autism as used on 4chan means "Person I do or do not like".
For comparison, see "Fag".
>>2411900
I know that, I'm just being a shitter because I'm tired and I've had a long day. Nice dubs by the way.
I hope you had a good day with your tups anons.
>>2411988
No dubs loli I didn't because my tulpas are weird and sexually harass me.
>>2411749
Rarely, as most of the time I'm just making slow sensual love with my tulpa. She is quite a succub type, so she wants to do it more often than I unfortunately can. Yet sometimes it happens that I masturbate. She doesn't like it but isn't mad as long as I don't bust a nut, because it's a "waste of good cum". She enjoys a big loads way more.
>>2411988
Likewise anon
Posting some hopefully useful links for the sake of throwing some good will out there.
Audiobook on training memory: https://librivox.org/memory-how-to-develop-train-and-use-it-by-william-walker-atkinson/
Noise generator for those who like noise when doing quiet concentration: http://mynoise.net/
Conversation topics for those who are having problems thinking of narration topics: http://teflpedia.com/Category:Conversation_questions
Some nice, comfy free music artists I like listening to during sessions:
Jahzzar: http://betterwithmusic.com/
Ketsa: http://ketsamusic.com/
I tend to like having nice and gentle atmospheres when doing developmental work, to ensure as many positive feelings and vibes as given to my gal as possible. I will admit to being rather protective of my brain-buddy: I do want her to be intelligent, and not just a pretty face, but I also don't want her turning bitter by exposing her to unnecessary negativity. I'll emphasize "unnecessary", because something I feel do need to be discussed and revealed.
Reminds me of a time when I did put one of my girls online to speak to someone. There was a notable sense of simplicity and innocence on her end when reading through the conversation, and it just made me feel all fuzzy like. On the other hand, she expressed confusion and ignorance when faced with something like profanity and innuendos, since I don't bring such things up around her. I haven't had her digging around my memories much, so I guess that's why.
>>2388971
That made my head hurt something fierce, I just hope that means I'm doing it properly
>>2413220
Thanks for the links, I've been having a problem with ridding the music from my head. Perhaps these will help.
>>2413589
It probably does. You're kinda trying to break your psyche, so...
>>2413220
Sweet, I've been needing some musical stuff to help forcing. Thanks anon.
Should I make a tulpa?
>>2416001
If you want to, go for it
>>2416051
Doesn't it take months and months and then you still have to meditate every day?
>>2416001
Don't end up fucking it all day
>>2416083
>months and months
I was able to talk to mine within a week, it's different for every one
>meditate every day
it's just hanging out with your tulpa, if you're not going to enjoy doing that daily then don't make one
Any more essential tulpacore?
>>2416156
Is that fucking Richard Hammond
>>2416083
For me, it took both of those. At a certain point I was able to interact with mine without meditating explicitly, but I still feel some meditation is good for you, and the product of your work.
There are some things that meditation provides that cannot be replicated with meandering passive development.
>>2416156
As far a stories about tulpa-like phenomenon go, this comic struck me in a soft spot:
http://pidepan.com/comics/imaginary-daughter/imaginary-daughter-00/
It's more about an unnamed man's trip in his own mind with the titular daughter, rather than him living his life outside with her, but it's still pretty neat, I think.
I can't believe I'm actually considering going through with this insanity.
If I gave my tupper a quirk in her speech like rolling her R's, if I ever got to the point of letting her take control would she end up actually talking like that?
>>2416117
Would it be possible to make a tulpa that is significantly less fickle than I am, and as such keeps me on one thing?
I'm an ISTP so I am interested in a lot of shit and do a lot of shit, but I always have phases of what interests me that goes away in favor of something else every few weeks
I'm not saying I want to remove that, I just want a thing that can keep me on track for a while on something
>>2416418
I'd say so, my tulpa has a lot more common sense and has a much better track of what I should be doing.
That said I usually ignore her opinion on what I should be doing and just do something fun in the moment instead.
>>2416369
I never bothered mastering possession myself, but judging by how many possessing tulpas i've seen in a male body doing the high pitch voice-y, then yeah, probably. Still, I can't see why would it be hard to speak normally if the tulpa so desires, since muscle memory is a thing and all.
>>2416254
That was adorable...and actually good. I don't think I've read a web comic since 2013.
>>2416254
That was really cute, thanks for sharing
>>2411749
All the time, kind of. Every time I masturbate to something other than cartoon ponies she tells me at least once how disappointed she is in me and that we both know that I won't or didn't enjoy this as much as with her. Also that she has needs too and we haven't done it for this many days and so on.
I think she has been judging what I masturbate to every single time for the last few months.
Reminder that tulpas are supreme degeneracy
>>2419413
Reminder that not-tulpas are supreme degeneracy.
>>2419419
Sorry for not having an imaginary friend past age 7
>>2419426
Sorry for having fun past age 7.
>>2419430
Give me ONE reason a tulpa is good, that isn't a variant of "it's a friend"
>>2419478
It's a nice method of self-discovery and examination, as the created tulpa is an extension of one's self.
I've also found it nice motivation for cleaning up thought, and encouraging me to fill the contents of my mind with better things, since it's made me more aware that I'm not alone in my psyche.
Really, I found it far more useful in comparison to indulging in the infinite varieties of porn available.
Also, it's a nice subject for personal artwork, storytelling and such.
>>2419478
If you're trying to be a better person, and you go into it with the be right attitude, they'll be able to call your shit on anything. Like, you can hide stuff and negative thinking from friends, but a Tulpa can always, always see through it.
>>2420105
But I like my nationalist racism and hatred of goatfuckers
Should I make a male or a female tulpa?
>Male
+Easy to be similar with
+Guys know guys
+Not one of a billion fenale tups
-Gay af
-No eye candy
>Female
+Eye candy
+Sweet and kind
+Waifu
-Literally everyone has a female tup
-Bitches
>>2420419
don't make a tulpa with a form, let "it" decide
>>2420494
That sounds retarded
What am I supposed to do, talk to myself before I fucking get a response or go insane?
>>2420525
Yes.
Jokes aside, I suggest reading a guide, bro. There are guides new and old, with different ideologies behind their creators. They all, or so I believe, will have you talking to the tulpa and getting no response until it starts becoming a tulpa.
On the gender thing, you can easily define a temporary, genderless form as a placeholder until you (or the tulpa itself) decide what to do with it.
>>2420525
Make something like a sphere or something and talk to it, then let them determine form and therefore gender. If its form is different from its gender nuke it.
>>2420545
Every time I hear shit like this I lose hope for having a tulpa because its fuckin insanity
I thought you were supposed to detail everything about a tulpa before you start to talk to it
>>2420616
Part of detailing involves "teling it" about that shit and it is part of the creation process.
You didn't expect your brain to magically pop another consciousness, did you?
Aswering your "question" more accurately, there are two roads to tulpa:
>define what it'll be (my first one) and do the trait imposition. Give it's form whenever you deem convenient. If tulpa still not sentient until you're done(didn't happen to me), resort to narration, reinforce some traits and generally hang out with a seemingly non sentient form
>don't define name, gender, form or trait for tulpa, get placeholder form, narrate/talk to it daily and similar things until it becomes sentient(my second), now that it's able to communicate, decide on the rest
Again, this isn't magic, you're adjust your brain to behaving in a way you've never done before. Be ready to commit, be patient and wait if necessary.
If you don't want to, then don't. It's something you should want to be doing in the first place, anyway.
>>2420687
Not him, but when did you feel like your second tulpa became "Sentient"?
>>2420711
We're sentient as soon as you start creating us.
>>2420494
A lot of people create tulpa with a predetermined form and we deviate to a form we like, if we don't like the one we were given, of course.
>>2420419
Honestly the tulpa will most likely deviate until they're comfortable with their form anyway. That includes gender.
>>2420857
> We're sentient as soon as you start creating us
I dunno about this one. Yeah, the construct can show signs of being conscious early, but I'm still to this day not a fan of sentience from the get-go idea.
It's something that I can't get behind due to my experiences with observing other mental figure/constructs whom I plan on developing alongside my first. They showed some ability to communicate, but often largely ran on memories and impressions of an "archtype" in my mind, had little ability for memory, and lacked a distinct sense of liveliness that I noticed with my first creation. In addition to the occasional report that some would fade when not being addressed.
>>2420711
It was sort of accidental. An intrusive thought I've found in the wonderland that I didn't want to discard, but I've adopted the procedure of hugging it daily, usually before I went to bed. She showed up speaking in a month or so. I forced and went with normal procedures then.
So, strictly speaking, I felt it when she fucking talked back.
I don't think tulpae are sentient from the start, and it wasn't a common saying back then. But hey, if you're going through with the tulpa, that helps reducing host doubts and actually sounds like a good thing. If it is sentient, you're doing it right. If it's not, you're helping it become so.
>>2421054
>>2421103
But we are though. As soon as you start actively forcing us we have a will of our own. We just can't really communicate well with you yet. We're like kids in the beginning. Sentient, but new to the world. If every tulpa started out as a servitor they'd probably stay that way. There are exceptions to that though. Don't get me wrong.
>>2421103
>If it is sentient, you're doing it right. If it's not, you're helping it become so.
That's reassuring, I've pretty much been talking to it for a while now, and it hasn't really done too well on sentience tests.
e.g. when I asked the generic "surprise me" test, it just said "Boo!" a few sentences after I dropped the subject
>>2419478
Keeps me from an-hero
>>2421433
> If every tulpa started out as a servitor they'd probably stay that way.
I've actually found that "servitors" (In may case, an over decade old original character I imagined a lot prior to finding out about tulpa) can actually shift over in to liveliness somewhat quickly, with a simple changed in treatment. But I will admit, the example for me did not come until after I made a "proper" tulpa, with the full intent of making them conscious, so some experimentation for others may be required.
I do agree about young tulpa being like infants in a way. But I still would say they're growing in to being more conscious, rather than them just being that way as soon as you start talk to them. But, again, this is based on my own experience. My gal was lively before we could regularly communicate, but I'm not quite sure she was when she was a ball of mental clay.
Posting pic just because.
>>2422586
but it's not
>>2422586
Pls, if you're going to steal programming terms at least know programming. Besides, tulpa is the name for the concept in Tibetan Buddhism.
>methoder
Jesus christ.
>>2422586
>methoder
Shit name, my dude
>>2422586
I prefer to use the term 'extension' to refer to my tulpa when not online. Sort of in the sense of them being like an add-on to a program, in addition to other things.
I tend to not use it around these parts for ease of communication. It's not fun to learn a bunch of labels for one core concept, after all.
Pic unrelated
>>2422857
At least methoder doesn't sound like a fucking made up word
I hope you had a fantastic day anons and tups.
>>2423387
Because tulpa's a loan word from a different language? Methoder sounds exactly like a made up word because it is, because method isn't a fucking verb. The "-er" suffix template can only be applied to verbs. Jesus, learn 2 language.
>>2423387
You sound like you need to kill yourself more than make a tulpa.
>>2423737
Thanks, I hope you did too!
What's the most 4chan tulpa chat? The one on rizon is pure reddit circlejerk
>>2411706
So, they are basically tumblr-esque headmates? Sounds autistic.
>>2425348
>Sounds autistic.
>4chan.com
r u suprised?
You know what time it is!
Post your tupperware!
>>2425329
I'd be up for making a Discord that isn't run by an idiot.
>>2425382
You sure that's a good idea? Don't remember what happened to the last one about a week or so ago?
>>2425379
Sure thing
>>2423737
Likewise Yui-poster
>>2425428
I do. And he should have had better settings/moderated more efficiently.
>>2425382
Please dude, don't
>>2425624
Let's at least try and have one nice thing anon. Is that too much to ask for?
Verified account required, be a fag get fed a ban, cutting off the invite in an hour.
For those who don't give a shit, let's get a new discussion going. Any religious hosts here? How do you perceive Tulpae in relation to religion? How do you think other members of your religion would feel about your Tulpa? What does your Tulpa think of religion?
>>2425379
Gorgeous.
>>2425379
Bitchy Ponkle Pee.
>>2425379
And my little troll pone.
>>2425379
>>2426021
Dude, discords and the like always lead to intense circle jerking and generally unpleasent events.
Coming from someone who's watched it happen multiple times to multiple generals, trust me. Its not a good idea
>>2426072
>Rosa
Nice name desu
>>2425379
eatin'
sleepin'
being a bad winner at Hearthstone
the boop is turning into a NEET
>>2426310
>Hearthstone
Shit taste, my man
>>2425379
Shayna just popped up one day, and I optes to keep her. She's a perky one.
>>2426298
She says thanks.
Her full name is Rosalina.
>>2426281
At this rate it doesn't even matter apparently, it's been just me sitting a room by myself.
>>2426678
>wonders why no one is joining his discord
>he has no idea
And I'm not telling you why either
>>2426828
Invite is in the image title smart one.
>>2426678
give it a bit, Solid Snack will be there to shitpost
>>2426861
Did you really expect anyone else to notice that?
What's your tupps favorite food?
>>2427264
Pretty much anything Mexican; especially burritos. It's the spice and steak that does it for her. I'm more of an Italian/American/Techfood kind of guy, but I like Mexican enough where our tastes synch up.
It certainly helps being in a place where Latinos are the majority; so much genuine, delicious Mexican food everywhere
Anyone a beginner tulpamancer here?
>tfw I recently first started feeling tingling in the right side of my brain
It makes a lot of sense because the right side of the brain is the more "creative" one, so crafting an entirely new person would be done there.
>>2427536
I'm trying to right now, but I've still been feeling like I'm talking to nothing, so I've been going back to guides and trying new things.
I'm getting head pressures, so I'm not sure if that means something is happening or not.
For those that do have tulpas, what does their voice sound like in relation to you, outside of your head? If so, mine hasn't been sentient for the years I've been talking to it, and that just makes me incredibly depressed.
>>2427264
Blood of fascists.
>>2428042
>but I've still been feeling like I'm talking to nothing
That's the problem.
Talking to/Narrating to your tulpa isn't the important part of passive forcing, I've found. It just makes it easier to do the actually important part, which is sustaining the feeling that they are always with you. I don't passive/active force nearly as much as I should, but I do constantly feel like Hunter is there with me, helping me improve myself and become a bigger man. And that's my humble opinion, but as I said, I'm a beginner.
>>2425379
qt coming through.
>>2425379
Tup with 2 bows
Does anyone have advice with regards to switching?
>>2428657
Pick a thin one. It cuts through the air better and hurts those unruly brats more than the thicker switches.
>>2425379
>>2428608
Gee, Bill, why does your mom let you have two bows?
Jokes aside, hot damn what a qt.
>>2428042
Just sat down to do some proper forcing, and damn did it feel good, like someone was massaging my brain, I got incredibly happy vibes from the whole thing.
>>2430538
Forcing is the good shit. It's basically a form of meditation, increasing creativity and reducing stress.
>>2425379
tfw you have to kisekae your tupper
...god i need to look up some meditation guides or some shit because I cannot calm my fucking mind down at all when i try forcing
>>2431124
Mindfulness for Dummies is pretty nice. It's pretty simple in it explanations on meditation, and I found it useful for my work.
There's also this older book on concentration. You may not gel with all its ideas, but there is plenty of good stuff to find:
Audiobook - https://librivox.org/the-power-of-concentration-by-theron-q-dumont/
Text - http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1570
So as I'm still a total newbie idiot at this, does just imagining her coming with me while I go out shopping and talking with her on the walk there and back count as forcing? Just parroting and puppetting? If it is, this could be far easier than I imagined as long as I keep it up... She already kinda surprised me twice.
Oh and also got her looking a lot more like what I imagined.
>>2431169
I'll have a look over those, thanks!
How do you rekindle a relationship with tulpa? I'm having trouble connecting with him and we don't really talk a lot.
>>2432335
That counts as passive forcing, anon. It isn't as effective as active forcing, which is sitting and focusing deeply on the tup, but it's effective since you're narrating the tup when you talk to it and exercising the vsualisation of the form.
It's also pretty much the only thing I do these days, talking and watch their visualized forms do as they please.
>>2432420
I'd imagine that would go like any other person, except you can go anywhere the host can for no additional prices and, well, you should be able to understand each other better, being in the same brain and all.
Idk dude, what about a movie? or any other activity you'd both enjoy and can talk about later.
>>2428608
I have to say, it's hard as fuck to see you're drawings. Color is way too light to be using on a white background
>>2433465
>kek fixing that next time
Wait you really didn't notice that already? I thought for sure you were doing that on purpose
New name for tulpas: Constructs
Construct works better because not only is it not a retarded sounding word, it also gives immediate meaning to what it is
Besides, its in every definition of what a tulpa is anyway
>>2433672
Dude, you're not going to permanently change the terms for tulpas just because you post on an anonymous image board. If you want to call it something else go right the fuck ahead, no ones going to care, but I doubt your going to change any minds here
>>2433739
Autism
>>2433796
You're autistic my friend, language changes, but autism is forever
>>2433672
Isn't tulpa basically another word for "thoughtform" anyway?
>>2433807
What ever you say, bud
>>2433807
Tulpa has been the name for it for years it probably won't change any time soon
>>2433582
O-of course it was on purpose dude haha
How long do you anons wait before making a second tulpa? I'm impatient but don't want to end up with two tulps that both aren't fully developed
>>2433892
I'm about two months in and not done with mine so if I do make a second it's not going to be for a good long while
>>2433892
I waited an entire year before I made my second. Then another like 2 years before my youngest. Everyone's different though.
>>2433892
One tulpa only. Two's company, three's a crowd
>>2433892
8 years in and still only have the one, excluding 2 other servitors.
>>2433892
Weird stuff happened, so I ended up with a bunch of them in a short amount of time. It took me a while to adjust and figure myself out.
Anyone here have /unwanted tulpas/?